Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] URGENT action needed

[Tabitha Roder]

I think Sugar Labs should approve the $US 627.05 travel advance for Samson
Goddy.
Tabitha


On Aug 11, 2017 8:44 AM, "Walter Bender"  wrote:

> I presume we need a motion and a vote on this. Time is of the essence, so
> please respond ASAP.
>
> Motion: Samson Goddy has been selected as a Sugar Labs representative to
> the Google Summer of Code mentor summit. He has requested a travel advance
> to cover the costs of his visa application. The advance, including wire
> fees comes to $US 627.05. This motion is to approve the travel advance. (As
> additional background, Google will be covering up to $2200 in travel
> expenses for two representatives to attend the summit. Since our other
> representative is local to the SF area, the bulk of that money would be
> available to cover Samson's travel, so the net impact on SL funds will be
> negligible.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Accounting at Software Freedom Conservancy <
> account...@sfconservancy.org>
> Date: Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 4:16 PM
> Subject: URGENT request for Sugar Labs to approve of US$627.05 advance for
> Goddy for GSoC Mentor Summit (was: Is Goddy actually requesting $160 ?)
> To: su...@sfconservancy.org
> Cc: Martin Michlmayr , Samson Goddy <
> samsongo...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Sugar Labs PLC,  please urgently page down to the all caps section below.
>
> Samson,
>
> Samson Goddy wrote at 08:52 (EDT) on Wednesday:
> > it has been 5 days, i already made request to su...@sfconservancy.org
> for
> > funding. Since it takes up to 15 working days(3 weeks) for the embassy to
> > accept appointment for interview.
> >
> > I haven't heard anything from both parties.
>
> Unfortunately, We are waiting for someone from Sugar Labs to reply to
> approve the expense.  I don't know why they haven't replied.
>
> SUGAR LABS PLC: By my calculation, Samson is asking for this:
>
>   FOR TRAVEL TO GET A VISA, AND FOR THE VISA FEES ITSELF, SAMSON GODDY ASKS
>   FOR A CASH ADVANCE OF TRAVEL EXPENSES (TO COME TO GSOC MENTOR SUMMIT
>   2017).  The totals are as follows:
>
>   If we use western union, N202,350 = $570 (rate set by WU)
>
>   If we use wire, he's asking for 561+(561*.05)+13+25 = US$627.05 to be
> wired.
>wire fees
>
> If Sugar Labs PLC replies with approval before Sunday night US/Eastern, we
> can likely process a payment by wire on Monday.
>
>
> We don't typically use Western Union, and it would be substantial effort
> for
> us to do that, so we'd like Sugar to approve the additional wire fees as
> it will make payment more rapid for Samson and easier for Conservancy.
>
> Samson, your request was a bit ramble-y, so if I gleaned the wrong totals
> above, please correct them.
>
> Samson, in preparation for Sugar Labs PLC hopefully approving this request,
> could you let me know if the wire instructions I used for you before are
> still correct, and if not, send me new ones?
>
> --
> Bradley M. Kuhn
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>  |--> & also, de-facto Bookkeeper for the moment
> Pls support Conservancy!: https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/
>
>
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] MOTION: French visa for Samson Goddy to attend 10-year Anniversary Scratch Conf / 50-year Anniversary of Logo

[Tabitha Roder]

Can I vote? I think it would be great for you to attend! An opportunity not
to be missed.

Nāku noa, nā Tabitha

On 13 June 2017 at 00:07, Samson Goddy  wrote:

> To those members who haven't voted.. could you please come and vote. It is
> very disappointing that this motion is still pending. I am to travel to
> lagos tomorrow and i really need to know what will happen to the motion.
>
> Samson G
>
> On Jun 9, 2017 11:30 AM, "Adam Holt"  wrote:
>
>> On Jun 7, 2017 7:59 AM, "Adam Holt"  wrote:
>>
>> Lionel, Sameer, Laura & Ignacio,
>>
>> Can you please try to vote yes or no
>>
>>
>> Or please formally abstain, but do vote your opinion please!
>>
>> (As you we're elected to do, setting a tone for forward action — in
>> whatever direction your conscience takes you — Thanks All!)
>>
>>
>> today
>>
>> as Samson would need to fly to Lagos immediately this wkd (or Monday
>> latest, to get everything in motion) so does need to know what's happening
>> ASAP as the wkd approaches, *Thanks All for your consideration!*
>>
>>
>> On Jun 5, 2017 3:28 PM, "Walter Bender"  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Adam Holt  wrote:
>>>
 On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Samson Goddy 
 wrote:

> I will take sole responsibility for the lost and if it happen, i
> didn't get the visa.
>

 My apologies I misunderstood earlier, among the many emails.  That
 makes things very clear, thank you Samson.  Be it then resolved:

 "To support Samson Goddy's attending 2017 Scratch conference in
 Bordeaux, France (19-21 July 2017) to strengthen our relationship with
 Scratch, Sugar Labs should allocate up to $500 in support of his obtaining
 a French visa, including (as nec) travel from Port Harcourt to Lagos for as
 many days as required.  Any receipts to this end, Samson will submit to the
 Software Freedom Conservancy.  It is understood that if the French
 government very unfortunately turns down his visa application, preventing
 him from attending Bordeaux, these lost funds will be borne by Samson
 Goddy."

 Thanks in advance to any board members who can second this motion,
 thereby helping Samson/Scratch/Sugar move forward!

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>>> While I think it is unconscionable for Sugar Labs not to shoulder the
>>> responsibility of the visa on behalf of one of our members, I will
>>> nonetheless second the motion, bad precedent and all, as it seems to be the
>>> only way to get unstuck.
>>>
>>> -walter
>>>
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>>> Sugar Labs
>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>>> 
>>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] School Management Backend Gsoc 2017

[Tabitha Roder]

Hi Rohit

I would read about moodle and school server XS so you at least know what
has been used in the past.
moodle can be used for managing teacher/student/parent access, curriculum
management (into categories/courses, with competence frameworks and
individual/group learning plans these days), has chat and messaging systems
as well as forums (so you can do synchronous/asynchronous and individual or
select groups), quizzes and assignments, glossaries and databases,
attendance modules (face to face sessions can even email students a
calendar booking), full grade management. There are loads of other features
in moodle, and it is open source with a large community, not only in
development but in teachers, administrators, and users.
You can look at what olpc and sugar users have already done regarding
library management. We put close to 300 books on the school servers that we
put in to deployments, then just gave the kids a link to the directory of
books from moodle front page. But if you want a complete library management
system you could look at Koha integrated library system - it is open
source, http://www.koha.org/
The deployments I went to did not have internet, so we also gave them a
link to get other sugar activities from the front page of moodle on their
school server, with a bunch of activities stored on their school server.
Also some offline wikipedia pages. Much improved situation over no internet
and no books in a school.
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Server_Software
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/School_server
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/School_Server
These pages haven't been edited in a while, so not sure who is still active
in the sugar community who knows about this. But, the School Server
provides an Apache web server, the PostgreSQL database and Moodle as a
Learning management system.


Kind regards
Tabitha



On 19 March 2017 at 12:27, Rohit Lodha  wrote:

> After going through a whole lot of articles, I have framed the following
> database structure connecting primary needs of a school management system.
> The portal can be made with Django and sqlite/postgres database with easy
> integration with sugar.
>
>- 4 types of user -  Admin,Teacher, Student, Parent ( With appropriate
>database fields and permissions)
>- Teacher, Student, Parents can register themselves on the System or
>admin can create them
>  - Admin can accept any request.
>  - Teacher can accept student request which are in their class
>  - Parents will be added only if the student is registered
>- Subject :- A database for adding/removing subject. ( With fields
>like name, teachers, grading system)
>  - Teachers and Admin can register subjects
>  - each subject will have a no. of teachers assigned and a class
>timing for each teacher is also set.
>  -  each student is assigned a no. of subjects with specific
>teacher.( Either student register themselves and awaitteacher's
>confirmation or teacher registers students)
>- Subject Material: - Teachers can upload grades, assignments, study
>materials and can review each student performance in this portal.( Parents
>can view their child's performance)
>- Class Schedule:- Each subject teacher and a student will have a
>class schedule attached to them. They can view upcoming classes for a
>week/month.
>- Attendance:- Each Class schedule have attendance database connected.
>( Date,Student,Present or not)
>  - A similar daily attendance feature for teachers.
>- Student Promotion:- To promote a student to the new academic year.
>- Fees Management:- Managing receipt and dues of students.
>- Teachers Payroll :- Managing salary of teachers and budget of the
>school.
>
> Different views that will be created for respective audience are-
>
>- A News Board:- where admin and teachers can update/notify students
>and parents.
>- A Calendar:- Showing Academic Schedule of the year.
>- Exam List:- Date and Venue
>
> Apart from this, other features that can be added to this system
>
>- Online exam feature:- A portal for conducting and managing online
>exams.
>- Hostel Management
>- Library Management
>- Transport Management for Students.
>- Chat feature
>
> All these features can be made to support multi curriculum//boards.
>
> -Rohit Lodha
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Introduction - School Management Backend

[Tabitha Roder]

Kia ora

Re School Management Back end project - Not sure if Moodle school server
can be part of this conversation but bringing it up just in case.

Nāku noa, nā Tabitha


On 15 March 2017 at 21:45, Anuj Bansal  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the reply.
> Here is a list of core modules that I think can be a part of the portal:
>
>- User Management (Student Info, faculty info, Login, Registration).
>- Examination
>- Timetable
>- Admissions
>- Courses/Curriculum
>- Attendance (Both student and faculty)
>- Finance? (Not sure about this)
>
> Let me know your thoughts about this.
>
> Regards,
> Anuj Bansal
>
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[Sugar-devel] Thank you and an update on the New Zealand XO-4 deployment

[Tabitha Roder]

This week Barry Vercoe, Nicoletta Rata-Skudder and I had the pleasure of
spending three days with the first New Zealand school to purchase XO
laptops for their students. This school is also the first XO-4 touchscreen
deployment (I think in the world??).

I wanted to publicly thank all the people who worked so hard to help ensure
this deployment had a successful start, including the deployment being able
to be in Maori, the preferred language for this school. Thanks to CJL for
his endless support in making this happen, and for all his continuing help
as we work towards a sustainable translation team.

Thank you to Walter for helping with the keyboard issues. We hope to test
your new keyboard preference in a future build. For those reading this
email without knowing about the New Zealand deployment, we needed some
changes to allow Macrons on vowels to be in single characters. We found the
combining macron available in the standard keyboard was problematic.

The laptops are being used with first year students (five year olds) with a
teacher who has completed the One Education teacher training provided by
One Laptop per Child Australia. There are other teachers within the school
also working through this training to help them prepare to deploy XO-4
laptops in their classes. The students in her class had access to XO-1.75
laptops for two weeks prior to the arrival of XO-4 laptops.

There are a few bugs in the build that we have identified since deployment,
and a few activities that the students would really like to see available
for XO-4, but overall a successful launch.
The school is using xo-system 1a build 49 which is acquired from
download.laptop.org.au and we customised it using Jerry's tinycore linux
based customisation system. Many thanks to Jerry Vonau and James Cameron
for producing this and helping us use it. This customisation meant we could
have the laptops first start up in Maori and the children saw Maori
language from the very first screen (where you put in your name/ingoa).
We also bundled the following activities that the teacher had access to on
the XO-1.75 during training (if the activity started on XO-4) - Cartoon
builder, eToys, Get Books, Infoslicer, Maze, Story builder, the full Tam
tam suite, Turtle machine and Typing Turtle.
The teacher has asked us to investigate the jigsaw puzzle and slider puzzle
activities for XO-4 as some children had made puzzles with their photos
from Record on the XO-1.75 and enjoyed these activities.
We noticed some performance issues with Record (the screen would freeze at
times while they were preparing to take the photo) and we also could not
get Undo to work in Write activity in the classroom. We will test these
further and file bug reports when we know more.

Thanks to DSD for the quick fix on the Browse performance issues.

On leaving the school, the students were quickly gaining confidence in
using the touchscreen as well as the touchpad, taking photos in Record and
putting them in Write as part of story writing, and using the Paint
activity. They were excited at every opportunity to use the XOs and were
exploring all the activities with great enthusiasm.

Thanks to all the others who also helped along the way. OLPC builds and
deployments are a community effort, and we thank everyone involved. Please
know that your efforts, advice and guidance has been worth the sharing, and
this school is now enjoying their teaching and learning experiences with
XO-4 laptops in the classroom.

Thank you!
Tabitha and Tom
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[Sugar-devel] Copying contents of Journal to transfer from XO-1.75 to XO-4

[Tabitha Roder]

Hi

We are swapping out a classroom of XO-1.75s to XO-4s (known as XO-Duos in
Australia I think). Is there a way of taking the majority of the contents
of the Journal from XO-1.75 onto USB and then putting it into the Journal
of the XO-4s?
I am not too concerned with getting all the data, but would like to at
least get sound, video and images they have created, as well as Write
files. Would be great if we can also get Turtleart projects and other
activity output, so would appreciate any suggestions that people have.
I am familiar with drag and drop the file from the Journal to the USB icon,
but that is one file at a time, so hoping there is another way.

We are planning on installing XO-system 1a (build 49) from Australia.
We are assuming the XO-1.75s have an old Australian build on them but don't
have these details.

We'll be at the school Monday-Wednesday NZ time so hoping for suggestions
or instructions within this timeframe.

Thank you
Tabitha
New Zealand
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Re: [Sugar-devel] A simple way for teachers to review children works

[Tabitha Roder]

Hi Lionel

I recommend you look at XS or at least look at using Moodle. Students can
submit their work in assignments on moodle, for example.
Lots of people / places use Moodle so getting help is easy, there are
public forums on moodle.org and there are Moodle partners.

Tabitha
(sent from phone)
On Sep 26, 2012 7:53 AM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote:

 Hi all,

 ** **

 One of the main feedback from teachers in our small XO deployment at
 Saint-Denis (a poor suburb of Paris) is related to children works review.*
 ***

 The teacher would like a way to control and review works of children. 

 ** **

 Generally they ask to children to write a text or something else and they
 want a way to check if children have completed the work.

 They try to use an USB key but it’s too long (about fifteen minutes at
 least). More, because we’ve got only 25 XO for 50 children, two children
 share the same XO and there is a risk that a child delete the work of the
 previous one (it already happens).

 I don’t know if it could help here but we don’t have a XS server
 installed. BTW to be honest, I’m afraid than if we have one teachers don’t
 have knowledge to use it.

 ** **

 Because each XO has an Internet connection, we are thinking to develop a
 small activity to allow children to upload their works to a web server
 where teachers could retrieve it.

 **-  **Do you know how other deployments handle teachers review ?*
 ***

 **-  **Does the XS could be a solution to this problem ?

 **-  **Is there any existing activity matching the idea to upload
 content to a web server ?

 ** **

 Any advice is welcome.

 ** **

 Best regards from France.

 ** **

 Lionel.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Testing] Fedora Sugar Test Day - Test case content, location

[Tabitha Roder]

On 4 March 2012 16:35, S Page skierp...@gmail.com wrote:

 @Tabitha, I made your template prominent in
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_testing_template and continued the
 archivist job of marking old stuff as {{obsolete|from 2008}}...

Thanks :-)


 Is _anything_ under http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Tests still a useful
 test case?  Maybe a mass delete or rename to Tests/old crap/Xyz is in
 order?

We could devote a Saturday testing day to reading all of these if it is
deemed more worthy than testing new builds, or we could look at it on a
weekend when there are no new builds.


 A lot of those tests are linked from activity pages, e.g.
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Memorize has a TST link, but most activities
 have moved to sugarlabs.org where none (?) of them have testing
 information.

We did at one stage talk about using activities.sugarlabs.org to manage
testing either as a tag or as part of approval. I can't remember where the
conversation got to.  I can't remember who the we was.


 Did you see the spreadsheet in
 
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Community_testing_meetings/2008-11-06/Displaying_testing_metrics_in_motivating_ways
 
 ?

Yes, we set up a google form in the early testing days so we could see
results in a spreadsheet.


 https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pyBIsSK_3IlsHBpwk1EFNcQ
 ? @Tabitha, were you among the Wellington testers that supposedly used
 this? If so, did you like it?

Yes, we wrote that a very long time ago so as the new people could follow a
template. We figured it was a useful starting point and meant you were less
likely to forget to test the various components required.

The down side of the spreadsheet approach was that we still had to submit
bug reports and we still had to write the email to the testing list so we
didn't decrease our workload but actually increased it. We also tried to
find the current maintainer of the activity so as to include them in the
email. I think we still haven't nailed the time management side or the
contacting the current maintainer (and we have to remember that it is
important the developer of the activity/feature sees the feedback!).
Definitely keen on getting the testing train racing, lowering barriers to
entry, but keeping the spontaneity side in testing (not just following the
rules) so as we do see what happens in real life (like finding kids to test
is also important).

Tabitha
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Testing] Fedora Sugar Test Day - Test case content, location

[Tabitha Roder]

oh, forgot to ask about karma as mentioned on
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Community_testing_meetings/2008-11-06/Displaying_testing_metrics_in_motivating_ways

On another project I help with (one netbook per child with Ubuntu and
municipal wifi, so some significant cross over) Tom set up
http://questions.manaiakalani.org/ by using the http://www.osqa.net/ system
with the plan being that the children write the questions and answers about
their netbooks, their wifi and related learning questions.
That system has a good karma system, and we set it up after Stack Overflow
- http://stackoverflow.com/ - came up in conversation.

Is there a suitable tool that is as easy to use and has karma features like
OSQA?

Another site sugarlabs types (unofficially?) used briefly was
http://getsatisfaction.com/sugarlabs which had ways to give people points I
think. You can star a good answer.

Moodle.org uses ratings in its forums and that quickly identifies the
particularly helpful moodlers. This encourages people to write good
replies to be awarded this status badge. This is another interesting model
for engaging users and helping people identify which answers are most
likely to be accurate.

Unfortunately, I don't know of any examples in the land of testing as the
only interaction I really have with testing is OLPC. If anyone does testing
for a job and can share other examples, that might help us?

Tabitha
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Automatically joining a shared Activity

[Tabitha Roder]

On 16 February 2012 18:02, Danny Iland il...@cs.ucsb.edu wrote:

 I'm developing an emergency communication activity for OLPC, based on
 Epidemic routing. The core idea is that when XOs come into Wi-Fi range
 of each other, they pass messages and data back and forth. We are
 attempting to implement this using a shared Activity. However, for
 this to be feasible, we need a way for our Activity to look for
 instances of the Activity being shared by XOs nearby, and to
 automatically join the activity. We don't want the user to have to be
 in the Neighborhood view to find other users, or to take any action to
 connect to nearby XOs. Any advice with regards to this is greatly
 appreciated.


I don't know if anyone has replied to you about this already, but I am
trying to understand the risks associated with this. What will the activity
do? To automatically join, would the user have to already be running the
activity? Would they have some kind of notification appear that they have
connected automatically to someone's activity and what that connection
means? Will it involve the camera or microphone? Is it emergency chat you
are trying to create, like IRC?

Thanks
Tabitha
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Testing] Fedora Sugar Test Day - Test case content, location

[Tabitha Roder]

On 17 February 2012 08:36, Samuel Greenfeld greenf...@laptop.org wrote:

 On March 22 there will be a Sugar test day for Fedora 17.  This means that
 the Fedora community in general will be gathering to look at Sugar and see
 what issues we have close to the end of the Sugar 0.96 cycle.


While test cases can be useful, I always try to start with some discovery
time as this is when you can get some feedback on design and intuitive
behaviour (though this is impacted by use of other systems with many
users).  Something like:
Find a friend. Work together to discover how to open the laptop if you
have an XO, or start Sugar. Together try clicking on things and see if you
can learn how to play any games or complete any activities. Can you find
ways to take photos, write stories, make music.
After that, get their feedback on how that went before giving them a test
case. First time users of Sugar can also give you feedback on their
experience of first use of an activity while following testing
instructions. There have been a number of occasions when I have said oh,
you have to click on that first and then click on that other thing and
they have said why is it designed like that? which really makes us
rethink about the design of activities.
Our basic activity testing template (written a long time ago) is here -
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_testing_template#The_NZ_activity_test

On the topic of tracking testing, we have looked at a number of options
here in NZ and I think Australia also looked at a number of options. In NZ
we tried writing them on wiki.laptop.org but that didn't really work. My
personal method of managing test requests is to try to tag the requests (or
potential requests) in my email inbox when they arrive and then test them
on Saturday, archiving off emails as things are tested. This only works for
us because we meet in one place, not a suitable solution for multiple
testing locations. I personally don't think we should add anymore systems,
but look at ways to use existing systems to manage testing - such as the
two bug trackers we already use or the activities.sugarlabs.org site.

Hope this helps
Tabitha
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[Sugar-devel] Testing Summary: 4 February 2011 - Auckland, New Zealand

[Tabitha Roder]

Testing Summary: 4 February 2011 - Auckland, New Zealand
Who: Alana, Charlotte, Fabiana, Oliver, Rachel, Tom, Tabitha

Sridhar at OLPC Australia kindly sent us one of their XO-1.5s with AVC
touchpad. We named this one Rosella. He also sent us a keyboard assembly to
replace Tank's which was sent back to Qanta last year and two wifi modules
to replace the ESD damaged units in Tank and Poppy Copy. We installed the
new keyboard in Tank today.

Speak on XO-1 os882 on mesh network
On Moodle, Speak speaks, on Tux, there is no sound from any activity.
When Tux shares Speak, you can join it from the neighbourhood on Moodle,
but Speak starts in the speak what I can type mode. If you change to the
voice chat mode, you find that you have actually joined the shared activity.
When Moodle sends a message in Voice Chat, Moodle repeats the message out
loud but when moodle recieves a message, Moodle does not speak the message
out loud.

Speak on XO-1.75 os26 on access point network
Started a new speak on Sundance
Switched to voice chat - got the warning about sharing and inviting
Shared activity
On kid, selected Sundance's speak activity in the neighbourhood
Got the say what you type mode on kid, on Sundance, saw kid join
On Kid, switch to Voice chat mode and get the warning about sharing, even
though it is shared
Same behavior as on XO-1, both laptops say what you type into them, but do
not speak messages received
Suspend sometimes took a long time (many 10s of seconds) to trigger instead
of the normal 20s.
Activity seems to be tolerant of suspend -- messages arrive fairly shortly
after resume

When sundance re-starts speak, it is still shared, but switching to voice
chat mode presents the warning about being in offline mode

Conclusion: Speak's Voice Chat feature behaves identically on XO-1 os882
and XO-1.75 os26 and has the same bugs.

Sundance - build os26 customised Sugar 0.94.1 firmware Q4D02
Successfully changed time to Auckland.
Tested: browse, stopwatch, tamtam mini, maze, implode, infoslicer, record,
physics, paint, write, memorize, clock, speak, moon, labyrinth, measure,
pippy, turtleart, ruler, finance, portfolio. Had the following fails:
Browse - crash on big picture not fixed
Record - can't tell difference between low and high quality pictures or
videos.
Speak - voice chat issues as described
Pippy - fail message on inputting 1 and 1 in Life.
Finance - first colours that the activity chose for categories were very
close (two shades of orange) which made it hard to differentiate them in
the pie graph.

au84 on XO-1.5:
Flipsticks 10 failed to start.

Touchpad Testing!
The following tests were performed on battery on a wooden table.
Temperature was at least 25C with quite high humidity. For the most part we
did not pay attention to where the rest of our limbs and appendages were.
We tested three laptops, one in two different configurations:
Rosella - XO-1.5 AVC touchpad, au85, factory configuration. For second 4F
round, ran relevant section of olpc-configure obtained from kid's os26.
Sundance - XO-1.75 C1 Synaptics touchpad, os26
Kid - XO-1.75 C1 AVC touchpad, os26

Tom using Rosella factory settings
No movement during hold test
Circle test difficult with small 13 activity ring -- circle too large to
fit on touch pad, but if you follow it faster the acceleration makes it
very difficult to follow a circle. Following a smaller circle around the XO
figure's head in the activity ring seems to be better but often shoots off
in a straight line -- possibly because of acceleration cutting in.
Finger rolling terrible.
Spiral quite good if drawn slowly. Some evidence of inaccurate tracking as
you get smaller in the middle. Can't draw a spiral more than 1/3 of the
screen without drawing it fast which just makes a mess.
Corner to Corner easy and repeatable

Tom using Rosella 4F
No movement during the hold test
Circle test reasonably easy to follow small 13 activity ring
Following smaller circle also easy
Finger rolling good
Spiral not that great, quite a lot of unintended straight lines, and
moderately difficult to avoid crossing previous lines
Corner to corner easy and repeatable

General conclusion is the updated configuration makes the best case
behaviour for most tests a little worse but dramatically improves the
finger rolling.

Tabitha using Sundance
No movement during hold test
Circles were good
Finger rolling good
Spirals quite good
Corner to corner not possible in one swipe (Rachel confirmed this one test
too)

Tom using Kid
No movement during hold test
Corner to Corner difficult, often end up on the side rather than in the
corner, occasionally get to the corner.

Rachel using Kid
No movement during the hold test
Circle test not great, quite jerky and more going in a square
Finger rolling good
Difficult to do good spirals, likes to do straight lines instead of curves
Corner to corner not really possible, get to within 2cm of the other corner.

Thanks
Tabitha
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Result of test activities on Sugar 0.94.1

[Tabitha Roder]

On 20 January 2012 00:49, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote:


 I will certainly be using the i18n / L10n information to investigate
 the possibility of soliciting more PO files for the Honey project by
 pestering developers about i18n.

 I hope someone has posted about this to the testing list as I suspect
 our friends in the New Zealand testing crew would find such a
 spreadsheet useful in their own work,

 http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/testing


Hi cjl
New Zealand are following this conversation ;-)
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Getting Journal entries off an XO at the end of a project?

[Tabitha Roder]

Can you put instructions on the wiki please? Useful when a laptop is being
repaired and child has to use another laptop.
Thanks
Tabitha
On Jan 14, 2012 12:55 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com
wrote:

 If there is an XS, and they register, then their work will be backed up
 automagically, and accessible through Moodle.

 If they lose access to the laptop (ie: laptop's given to someone else),
 that can be handled with a simple procedure on Moodle -- something an admin
 can do.

 If that's an option, I can write up the Moodle procedure in detail.

 hth,

 m

 { Martin Langhoff - one laptop per child }
 On Jan 13, 2012 1:56 PM, Christoph Derndorfer 
 christoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I just spoke to the teacher of our small Austrian pilot project and we
 realized that we'll have to find a way to get Journal entries off the
 pupils' XOs as they'll finish primary school in late June.

 They won't have access to the XOs beyond that date and while SoaS is
 always a possibility I doubt that many of them will continue using Sugar
 afterwards. As such I'm wondering how we can - or can enable the pupils
 themselves - to save their work and memories in a way that allows them to
 use them from a standard Windows, Linux, or OS X computer in the future.

 I assume other projects have run into similar situations in the past so I
 wanted to see what solutions have been used here?

 Off the top of my head I came up with:

 (a) Have the pupils copy relevant files they want to keep to USB drives
 via the Journal or the Sugar commander Activity
 (b) Ask them to favorite things they want to keep in the Journal and then
 run a script that copies all of these entries to a USB drive or possibly
 even a network share

 Has anyone tried these approaches or am I thinking too complicated here?
 e.g. would it also be possible to simply backup all the Journal to USB
 drives or a network share and then give each pupil a copy of their backup?
 Would they be able to extract files into standard formats?

 Any pointers, help, comments, etc. here would be much appreciated.

 Thanks,
 Christoph

 --
 Christoph Derndorfer

 volunteer, OLPC (Austria) [www.olpc.at]
 editor, OLPC News [www.olpcnews.com]
 contributor, TechnikBasteln [www.technikbasteln.net]

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Promoting Pablo Flores to CEO of Activity Central

[Tabitha Roder]

On 7 December 2011 06:19, David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.comwrote:

 I am proud to announce that we are promoting Pablo Flores as the new
 CEO of Activity Central.


Congratulations, Pablo; I look forward to seeing where this leads for you,
Activity Central, and the flow on to Sugar and OLPC.

Kind regards
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Re: [Sugar-devel] NZ Testing - Letters 23

[Tabitha Roder]

On 31 October 2011 13:08, Peter Hewitt p...@mulawa.net wrote:

 This activity requires the player to make the longest English word from 8
 random letters.

 Just wanted to comment on the idea of supplying a list of the missed
 words.  This is most undesirable - many of the words in the computer's
 dictionary will be completely unknown to the student. The list would really
 need to take into account the Grade Level of the student as well.

 Thanks for the feedback ... Peter


 I think it changes what opportunities for learning are presented to the
learner. How about instead of a list of words, a suggested word.

e.g. Did you know you could have written ...? The meaning of this word is
 Here is how it can be used in a sentence ... 

Perhaps this is an entirely different game.

The random letters can make the task of writing a word really hard and
sometimes even impossible, particularly if there are no rules around vowels
and consonants in the assignment of random letters.

Happy to test as well as bounce ideas around,
Tabitha
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Potential volunteer offering technical writing

[Tabitha Roder]

On 20 October 2011 11:21, Christoph Derndorfer 
christoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote:

 not sure what the exact time difference is between San Francisco and NZ but
 maybe we could set up a Skype call between Rachel, you, and us in SF to
 coordinate our documentation efforts?

 Cheers,
 Christoph


We meet on Saturday mornings at 11am NZ time (that is Friday 3pm in San
Francisco) for olpc/sugar testing and we are on IRC #sugar #olpc and a bunch
of other related freenode channels. We can also be on skype (tabitharoder).
If we are a little bit late, don't worry (probably the baby is requiring my
attention) as we won't be long. We are at testing usually until around 2pm,
or later depending how much testing we have to do (and how well the baby is
coping).

Tabitha
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Potential volunteer offering technical writing

[Tabitha Roder]

On 4 October 2011 16:18, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:

 And the FLOSS Manuals feed into the Help Activity, so work there pays
 of many times over...


So how do we feed the FLOSS manual into the Help activity? Rachel is keen to
help, but keen to see her work on the XO.

Is the FLOSS - help activity process documented anywhere? I don't think we
are able to help with improving the i10n process or the activity build
process, but we can help with the (english) words themselves.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Single sign-on for Sugar Labs resources

[Tabitha Roder]

On 19 October 2011 23:40, Aleksey Lim alsr...@activitycentral.org wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 01:17:12PM +1100, James Cameron wrote:
  On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 01:10:22AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
   This is an invitation to broad discussion and pointing out possible
   down sides of this decision (in addition to [1]).
 


If it assists in the debate, I have to admit that I don't even try to look
at anything to do with olpc or sugar (other than emails) if I don't have my
own computer to hand as I save all the passwords in it.  I can't remember
how to log into the different systems, and I can't even remember all the
systems!

In the 3 1/2 years I have been volunteering for olpc and sugar I can only
recall one major outage of a service (where a service was unavailable for a
significant length of time). Note that I don't use all the services listed
by James.

In part of making things easier for volunteers, it would also be useful to
have a page that lists all the services - that might serve as a homepage for
volunteers. But that is a different topic, which it would be nice to discuss
in a new thread.

Tabitha
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[Sugar-devel] Telescope activity

[Tabitha Roder]

Are there any notes anywhere on what kinds of telescopes are suitable and
how you connect them to the XO? Can we get this on the wiki somewhere? We
would like to try the telescope activity out.

I had a quick look but couldn't find much.

Thanks
Tabitha (NZ testers)
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[Sugar-devel] Potential volunteer offering technical writing

[Tabitha Roder]

Hi

If we had a volunteer (English Native language) professional technical
writer, what writing would be of most use to OLPC or Sugar that we can point
her in the direction of? She currently works with developers to write end
user documentation.

Thanks
Tabitha - NZ volunteers
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[Sugar-devel] Memorize - use scenario

[Tabitha Roder]

We have been seeing lots of changes to Memorize and some things are a bit
confusing. I was thinking that it might help to write some scenarios for how
you might use Memorize. So here goes...

In class on Monday the teacher says each student is to make a Memorize game
to help learn the elements of the periodic table.

Two students meet at another students house. They decide to play the game
they made about the periodic table. They each have different games so they
collaborate and play all three games.

On Tuesday in class the teacher says they should each make a Memorize game
that just looks at a set of elements based on whether they are metals or
nonmetals. In doing this task they can edit the existing game or they can
create a new game.
They are then asked to share their games so they can practice different
sets.

On Wednesday the teacher says they should each make a Memorize game that
just looks at solids or gases. They are told they should make sure they save
the game from Tuesday so they will have a bigger set of games to play later.


On Thursday and Friday they are given time to share and play the games they
have been creating with their classmates.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Feedback about the changes in Memorize

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Memorize
On 29 September 2011 06:17, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote:

  * dsd_ took me a little while to understand 'Set equal pairs' but i get
 it now
   but i'm wondering if something related to identical or matched would
 be better terminology than equal

 Hmm, so something like 'Set identical pairs' vs. 'Set different pairs'
 wording?


These words are much closer I think. If it helps, I think of it as duplicate
tile.
Maybe we don't want the word pairs but tiles, but I am not sure. Even
the word set doesn't fit somehow; maybe the word there is match.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Re: [Testing] Testing Summary - 13 August 2011, Auckland NZ

[Tabitha Roder]

On 26 September 2011 10:42, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote:

  Memorize 38
  - sometimes incredibly slow (several seconds to respond to mouse
  clicks), other times normal

 Any hints as to where you see it slow down, or is it seemingly at random
 even when clicking the same widget? Were you switching away (e.g. using
 alt+tab, or using the Frame) from Memorize, or stopping the activity at the
 time?

It is hard to tell if it because the XO-1.75 seems to be very slow, but it
is generally slowest when you first load the game (as in pulsing icon is a
long time, then turning over the first card is a very long time), but also
seemed slow if you had been in edit and switch back to play it took a long
time for the card to turn over.



  - doesn't seem possible to save games that you create

 Memorize now auto saves the game state into its Journal entry. There is no
 need to explicitly save and load separate game data manually. If you want,
 the journal entry can be re-name via the usual activity toolbar, or from
 inside the Journal.

Not so good. I made two games and the journal just shows the second game.
The first game is lost :-( which is really sad as the best part of Memorize
as a teaching tool is the games that the students make, not the three
preloaded games which are very easy to find and replay.
There needs to be a very clear way to save, edit and load their own games,
as many times as they want to play them. They need to be able to play and
edit a game over time as they develop their understanding of the topic the
game is about. They might easily have four or five games they are developing
throughout a semester.



  Once you have edited the game tiles, click back on the 'Play game' button
 to play them. Your modifications will be saved to the Journal entry.

Yes, but there is only one journal entry, even if you make two games, you
lose the first game you made as there was no way to save and name the first
game.


  - new icons have confusing hover names

 Which names did you find confusing? We have:

 - 'Set equal pairs', toggles to 'Set non equal pairs'
 - 'Set ungrouped pairs', toggles to 'Set ungrouped pairs'

Those are the confusing two names - equal pairs vs grouped pairs.


  - what is a grouped game? we think we know what a set equal pairs is

 OK so, equal pairs means you enter one tile, and the game will place two
 copies of it on a game board for you to find; non-equal pairs is so that you
 can have different question and answer tiles (picture of a donkey vs.
 spelling the word 'donkey'). A grouped game is where the question tiles are
 grouped together, and answer tiles are grouped together, during a game
 you'll see the backs of half the tiles marked in grey with '1' and the other
 half with '2'. An ungrouped game is quite a bit harder as all the question
 and answer tiles are mixed together.

ummm somehow that didn't make any sense when we were using the activity.
Maybe it is actually group question tiles and group answer tiles, rather
than grouping the pairs - that would equal grouping the question and answer
together ;-p



  - No longer a way of creating a new game and naming it for later use. The
 edited game gets saved in the journal but we could only find the latest
 version

 See above. It's worth noting here that we are finally moving away from the
 Activity 'Keep' debacle – if you would like to modify an existing Journal
 entry while preserving the original, use the new Journal 'Duplicate'
 feature. The 'Duplicate' option is available in the palette for an entry,
 and in the Details view toolbar.

Oh so confusing for the poor user. Really want a way to save different games
clearly.


  - After editing a game, the horizontal edges of the tiles disappear.
 Appears to only happen with the 4x4 tiling

 I think it is only when a secondary toolbar or notification is being
 displayed, so the canvas has less vertical height? It slightly clips the top
 tile edge with any of the x4, x5, x6 level games if a secondary toolbar is
 open. Could you confirm incase I'm missing another clipping case?

Okay, we will take a look and let you know if this is not the case.


 Thanks again for all the feedback!

Thanks for reading through it all and actioning :-)
Tabitha
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities for teacher-oriented and mouse-based interactions?

[Tabitha Roder]

On 7 September 2011 03:23, Bastien b...@altern.org wrote:


 2) What set of meaningful activities would you pick up?


As well as what Walter has already suggested, I would think about the stable
activities that make almost all the builds so they have some tools that
almost always work whatever build -
* Memorize as it is easy to learn how to make your own activities, then
teachers can have the students make their own games for each other very
quickly (one of the activities that has very low barriers to entry). This
can be done as a class or group activity where students suggest the cards
and what matches them.
* Physics because it rocks. Actually, so does Measure.
* Record if you can get it working on their laptops easily (got to have
camera and microphone obviously). In my experience I have found that seeing
themselves on the screen fascinates teachers as much as kids and can lead
onto great activities for their students in exploring who they are and what
is around them.

Another one to consider is Infoslice as it can be a useful tool for teachers
to remix and create resources for their students from wikipedia pages
(assuming they have access to wikipedia) and this might lead to getting
students to remix and create resources like the teacher did (either on
teachers laptop, other laptop, or with newspapers and butchers paper). A bit
of modelling like this can be useful and can help with teaching how concepts
relate, accessing and analysing information, building on what they are
learning, ...

Tabitha
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[Sugar-devel] Software Freedom Day 17 September 2011

[Tabitha Roder]

Hi Sugar and olpc world

What are people doing to celebrate Software Freedom Day this year?

We are having an event in our city (Auckland, NZ) and are planning to show
the XOs and if I can get some USBs then give out Sugar on a Stick. I am
hoping to find a good printer to get some posters done.

Anyone else doing anything?

Kind regards
Tabitha Roder
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Pulse Sensor: an Open Source Heart-rate Sensor that Rocks by Yury Gitman — Kickstarter

[Tabitha Roder]

On 20 July 2011 15:07, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote:


 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1342192419/pulse-sensor-an-open-source-heart-rate-sensor-that


 Can't see where they publish their code so asked them on their blog.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Como Hacer Una Actividad Sugar is now published!

[Tabitha Roder]

On 23 June 2011 03:57, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote:

 Como Hacer Una Actividad Sugar, the Spanish translation of Make Your
 Own Sugar Activities!, is now published at FLOSS Manuals:

 http://en.flossmanuals.net/como-hacer-una-actividad-sugar/


This is fantastic news. A big congrats to all those involved.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Easter Egg In Moon Activity?

[Tabitha Roder]

On 15 June 2011 05:31, Nicholas Doiron ndoi...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote:


 If you can't catch this eclipse, see when you can catch the next ones
 where you live:


 http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=next+lunar+eclipse+at+current+geoIP+location

 Regards,
 Nick


 Thank you Nick! I have shared this with my sister who teaches in a primary
school, very useful. I am hoping to see the local kids outside their houses
looking up at the sky on Thursday morning (our time). :-)
Tabitha
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC-AU] another Favorites View proposal

[Tabitha Roder]

Plus one to having home view always show favourites not list view, we get
confused with list versus journal view too.
Second part also looks interesting. Will follow the discussion.

Tabitha
On May 19, 2011 3:22 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't want to coop the current thread about search, but I have one
 concrete proposal (for which I volunteer to write a patch if we have
 consensus) and one long-standing feature request that we should dust off.

 (1) I propose that whenever you go to the Home View, you end up in the
 standard view. The only way to get to the list view would be by selecting
it
 from the standard view. I'd even go so far as to suggest that if you
 navigate away, you would return to the standard view.

 This simple change would take some pressure off the need to distinguish
the
 list view from the Journal and make it really just for organizing
favorites
 and nothing else, which keeps it simple. (Even an experience Sugar user
such
 as myself gets confused sometimes when I end up in the list view... I
 repeatedly hit the home view button and type F3 to no effect and think
there
 must be something broken.)

 (2) Multiple groups beyond just the binary favorites/not favorites
 selection. Lots of teacher (and kid) feedback about wanting multiple home
 view collections. This is more invasive, but if we really think about list
 view more narrowly, then adding this would be seemingly doable from the UI
 perspective. (One home view could be *all*, meaning we could even
eliminate
 the need to launch activities from the list view).

 -walter

 --
 Walter Bender
 Sugar Labs
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Suggestion about feature in sin-dientes activity

[Tabitha Roder]

2011/3/9 Yader Velásquez yajo...@gmail.com

 My problem is: How to allow only the teachers to customize the list words,
 and deny this feature to the regulars students?
 I use the FileChooserWidget for select a file with the new list, but is not
 a good idea that a child can do it.


I don't understand why the children can't write the word lists. I play a
hangman type of game with my niece (she is 10) and I write words for her to
guess and she writes words for me to guess. The more we play the better she
gets at choosing more difficult words.
If the students are writing their own word lists they can put in words which
are relevant to what they are learning and words they find important to the
topic, giving valuable insight to the teacher on the students understanding
of the topic.
I get students to write collaborative glossaries in courses too rather than
giving the students the words and definitions because I believe part of
grasping understanding of the topic is identifying key words and their
meaning given the context of the topic.
Tabitha
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Tech Report

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On 13 February 2011 16:31, David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.comwrote:

 On the content side, the New Zealand testers would be perfect fit for
 editors. Every weekend they could go through the queue of uploaded
 activities for the week and approve the one without regressions.

 There would be a strong incentive for people to fix the bugs the
 NZTesters report in order have their active moved from the sandbox in
 to public.

 david


 We did discuss this a few weeks back and thought we should have some
guidelines (these were started on
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Editors/Policy). I liked the
idea of us tagging things as passing some basic tests.
What is the best way for us to see the queue of uploaded activities?
Do you want to add me as an editor and we can have a look at what an editor
sees and then come back and ask questions if we need to?  I have a login for
ASLO site, will I just use that?
Tabitha
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Group name for our FLOSS Manuals

[Tabitha Roder]

Hi James et al

If we had one group named one laptop per child that may be interpreted as
Sugar only works on XOs. Is there a way the name could be more reflective of
the diversity of Sugar? Sorry I don't have the answer there.
The other question is do they use good tags/keywords as this might mean the
name of the group is less of an issue as the books/manuals can still be
found.
I just noticed this email was addressed to three sugarlabs lists and no olpc
lists.

Kind regards
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On 25 November 2010 06:36, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote:

 FLOSS Manuals is going to migrate the manuals to new software called
 Booki.  In that software related books are put into Groups.  The
 question is, what Group name should be used for our FLOSS Manuals?

 I would be happy with One Laptop Per Child myself, but I'm not the
 only author so we should try and come to some kind of consensus.  We
 could have more than one Group too, I suppose.  You can't have nested
 Groups, and we don't have that many books, so I like the idea of
 putting them all together under One Laptop Per Child.

 This is not imminent; we have *some* time to think about this.

 The other thing to know is that the *published* books will still be
 presented to the public the same way they already are.  It's just the
 authoring tool that is changing.

 Thanks,

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[Sugar-devel] Global Education Conference - discussion tomorrow

[Tabitha Roder]

Hello Sugar Community

Tomorrow Manu and I are leading an open discussion about Sugar as part of
the Global Education Conference and would like to ask the Sugar community to
participate and support this discussion.

Read about it here -
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Global_education_conference (I put some time
zones on this page to help everyone work out when it is).

We would appreciate it if some Sugar peeps could join us in Elluminate and
also to help in IRC. We will point people to the #sugar-newbies channel -
http://webchat.freenode.net/?randomnick=1channels=sugar-newbiesprompt=1
We don't know how many people to expect or what level of experience with
Sugar (if any) they will have so it's pretty much play it by ear. I ran a
Moodle session yesterday for the Global Education Conference and there were
30 participants, so could be small like that, or much bigger (organisers set
Elluminate room capacity at 500).

Looking forward to seeing you there and thanks in advance for your support.

Kind regards
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

[Tabitha Roder]

On 8 November 2010 10:18, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's not just that. Your android phone has a lot of ram and a much faster
 cpu than the xo 1.0. And its java runtime is engineered especially for low
 memory usage.

 The xo 1.5 is much better. And python and sugar will get better.

 Starting too many applications at once and crashing the laptop is still
possible with an XO-1.5. Does anyone have any XO-1.5 deployment stories
around this problem?
I have been to XO-1.0 deployment which definitely had this problem and
telling the kids to stop opening everything and trying to teach them stop
was difficult.
Is the XO-1.5 big enough in the real world or does it just delay the
problem? We only test XO-1.5s here, not experienced with deployments of
XO-1.5s.
Thanks
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Development Meetings

[Tabitha Roder]

 People   UTC
 -
 Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org any
 James Cameron qu...@laptop.org-11
 Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com00
 Martin Jose Abente Lahaye martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com  -04
 Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-reply-to-201...@silbe.org  +1
 Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de  +1
 Steven Parrish smparr...@gmail.com ?
 Tim McNamara paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz  -12
 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com -5
 
-4

 What about having [only] upcoming meeting on nearest weekends,
 something like Saturday, 22:00 UTC?


 Saturday your time is Sunday for NZ and Australia - if there is anything
coming out of these meetings that tells us what to test for you then you
might want to consider that we test every Saturday at 11am our time. Also
Saturday night your time means no one in your time zone gets to go out for
dinner on Saturday night ever again. The Monday to Wednesday idea previously
suggested was good.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Bridge activity code maintenance

[Tabitha Roder]

Daniel says that would be great.

Kind regards
Tabitha Roder
eLearning specialist and olpc volunteer
tabi...@tabitha.net.nz
Cell +64 21 482229
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On 23 October 2010 01:07, Gary C Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi fang,

 Just wanted to ping and check you have no objections to me picking up
 maintenance of the Bridge activity. I note that you originally uploaded the
 version 2 activity bundle to ASLO and so wanted to give you a heads up:

http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4231

 A number of new developers have contacted me and asked if they can
 contribute to Sugar activities, I suggested Bridge was a good candidate to
 start on as there is already a number of enhancements/fixes from similar
 work on the Physics activity that we could easily land. I'll create a new
 git.sugarlabs.org repository for the work, migrating over from
 dev.laptop.org, and we'll post new releases to the ASLO once ready.

 Kind Regards,
 --Gary
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Edit/audit wikipedia activity

[Tabitha Roder]

On 22 October 2010 05:06, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:

 we are getting interesting news of not-quite-good content in Wikipedia
 content included in the Wikipedia activities.


Schools wiki is quite good as it has images as well as text on 5000 pages of
curriculum (British) appropriate content. This could be a good place to
start
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[Sugar-devel] Test request time

[Tabitha Roder]

Hello world

It is late Thursday night here in NZ so it is the time of the week I start
looking for what we should download Friday and test in NZ on Saturday
morning.  Are there any test requests from anyone out there?

I am assuming we are starting with a Sugar 0.90 test of some sort...
I see some new releases - Sliderule-22, Physics-7, Turtle Blocks-100,
Jukebox-20 and Numbers-3. Should we test these and is there anything in
particular (other than the changes described in the release notes) you are
looking for feedback on? I was hoping that Wordgroupz would be ready for
testing but I haven't seen that yet.
We still have to try out creating our own images for Visual Match, and test
eToys on Sugar 0.90 too.
The Australians have a new XO-1.5 build they want tested...

Anything else?

Thanks world

Tabitha
olpc NZ volunteer
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel] Fwd: Testing Summary - Wellington, 9 Oct 2010

[Tabitha Roder]

On 10 October 2010 19:49, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote:


   - Discussion on using luggage tags so that we can identify which
 computer
 belongs to who from the outside

 A magic marker works fine.  (Or Sharpie or whatever they are called in your
 location.)


No magic markers thanks. The XOs are loaned from olpc. They are assigned to
different volunteers and get passed amongst the volunteers depending on who
is doing what.
Wellington - we have just bought a label maker so we can make labels and
post them to you.
Tabitha
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[Sugar-devel] Testing Summary: Auckland NZ - 9 October 2010

[Tabitha Roder]

Testing Summary: Auckland NZ - 9 October 2010

Who: Abhishek, Charlotte, Fabiana, John, Leslie, Robin, Tabitha, Tom

Tested Sugar 0.90 on XO-1.5 x 2
No restart button only shutdown :-(
Frame key works. Opened physics. Drop a circle in the activity and it
crashes Physics. (Known issue #2363 I guess.) Frame key no longer works
(known issue #2415 most likely), but frame appears when you point in the
corner.

TurtleArt started okay.
Joined local wifi successfully, Browse activity allowed clicking on links on
the homepage but couldn't type in the search fields. Can type in url field
and can use search fields within pages on other pages, just not on home
page. Reproduced failure of home page search fields in a second browse
session.

Speak 15
Believes the pope is john paul 2.

Labyrinth
Works as expected.

From Fabiana

 memorize 35 testing:
 2 computers (X1.5, Build 5 customised, Sugar 0.90.0)
 Poppy  Tank

 Initially, Poppy started a memorize activity. Tank joined and they were
 able to collaborate (I think both computers were on a ad-hoc network). Poppy
 quit memorise, but the icon on the desktop remained. On Tank, I created a
 customised activity, which I was able to play with by myself.
 Poppy and Tank then both went onto the wifi network. Tank put the
 customised activity on share on neighbourhood, but while Poppy could see the
 icon for tank, it could not see the memorise activity (tank could see the
 memorise sharing icon on its own neighbourhood). Tank tried to invite poppy,
 but that didnt work either. Restarting tank and trying again didnt work
 either. Tank then clicked on Poppy's old shared icon (poppy did not have
 memorise open) and it looked like it had joined. When poppy also clicked on
 that icon, it showed tank on the on the top as if tank had started the
 sharing. No sharing could take place.

 Speak version 18 seems ok
 Turtle blocks version 99 seems ok, but it is annoying that the pallette is
 not floating, need to scroll up and down to get artifacts as the sequence
 gets longer

 etoys version 116 Dont know how to use. Made a drawing, but then after
 stopping the activity it wasnt shown in the activity circle as having been
 used.




Tested activities on XO-1.0s
Spirolaterals-2
Quite cool when we worked out what to do (should have read the
instructions). The ten year old tester says the magician is creepy and it is
really hard. She understood that she had to enter 1 number then it would
turn before the next number. She got the first couple of numbers but third
number onwards was particularly hard. The adult tester said steep learning
curve, interesting the collaboration was happening outside of the computer
(we all talked to work out how it worked and we think this is a very good
valuable thing).

Sliderule-21
Pulsing icon of death, didn't start. Got logs. Raised sugarlabs ticket
#2429.

Visualmatch-26
Easy levels make for happy testing for the ten year old and the adults :-)
Moved onto harder levels. Took a bit more to nut out how it worked but got
there, good challenge. Too hard for the ten year old, she lost interest.

Filemix-2
Could not test as seems we have to have a midi controller to plug in.
We were a bit surprised to open a Sugar activity and see loads of text on
the screen. Can this be presented better? What if you can't read all that or
there is no local translation?

Juegos Flash 2
First tab is whack your ex - not appropriate at all for children. The
animations are horrific and the ten year old said and that is why you guys
test things.
We found another inappropriate activity - the right mix for cocktail
parties.
There is no stop button to end the activity. We were not sure of the
educational value of this activity but we had lots of trouble with memory on
the XOs and with language.

Abacus-19
Confirmed it does take values across the Abaci where it can. Can it say when
it is not valid? e.g. sorry that cannot be translated. Part of the problem
is where the number is left of decimal but get no failure message when
Abacus is all on the right of the decimal point.

Turtleart -99
Showed Charlotte turning around on the spot 180, 360, then got her to work
out how much it would be to turn right (90) and left (90). Once that was
sorted we wrote a programme. She made a repeating pattern (came out looking
like a big wide cross) with repeat 4, forward right forward left forward
right varying steps. She then worked out how to make a square and a bigger
square. Then she worked out the repeats in her formula (4). Tried making a
triangle. Interesting corrective behaviour. She wrote R45, F100, R135, F100,
R90, F100. When it didnt match she chose to add R135, F30 (there was some
trial and error on the last R angle) rather than adjust her original
program.
Turtle art got so slow on the XO-1.0 that she ended up making mistakes
because the drag responded too slow.

eToys-113
Charlotte tested the eToys demon castle tutorial. Then she tried some
challenges. When trying to quit the activity 

Re: [Sugar-devel] changes in trac and others

[Tabitha Roder]

  What would be the difference between Owner and Developer then?


I assumed that owner was the same as maintainer same as developer. Tom tells
me that at his work the bug is assigned to an assignee or a team. In
either case the team leader is officially the owner but often someone else
takes on the owner duties that is not tracked. The other option at his
work is cc list for those who want to know what happens.
Language is complicated, and I speak English as a first language, must be
hard for our friends who speak English as another language to work out what
is going on with these titles.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Joining the QA Teams

[Tabitha Roder]

On 1 October 2010 10:44, Samuel Greenfeld greenf...@laptop.org wrote:

 Hello; I'm Samuel Greenfeld, and I started work in September as a Lead QA
 Engineer for the OLPC Association.  I am based out of the Miami, Florida
 OLPC office, where Martin Langhoff also works.

 I am currently the primary (and only) QA tester hired by the OLPC
 Association.  James Cameron will continue to be the System Test Coordinator
 for the OLPC Foundation.


Nice to meet you Samuel and congratulations. I am a volunteer in New Zealand
and we have a community of volunteer testers here in Auckland and in
Wellington who you might get to know in the coming months. We can test for
olpc (XO-1.0s, XO-1.5s) or Sugar (Macs and a variety of netbooks), and can
test with School Server (though limited wifi hardware testing capability).
Please feel free to ask us for support and testing.
Looking forward to getting to know you.

Kind regards
Tabitha Roder
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Weekly test request reminders? (was Re: Priorities for testing)

[Tabitha Roder]

 That would be nice. If you add a [Testing] tag to those mails we could
 set up a mailing list topic to allow people to opt-out (see the
 subscription options [1]). If mailman supports sorting a message into
 multiple topics, a [Reminder] topic might be useful as well.

 Sascha

 [1] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/options/sugar-devel


We currently use the mailing list test...@lists.laptop.org
Considering the huge number of lists that many of us follow I would like us
to consider whether we need to use another list. There are 16 lists on
lists.sugarlabs.org and over 100 lists on lists.laptop.org and many of us
follow quite a few and the lines between olpc and Sugar are blurred because
if you support one you are often found supporting the other.
Could we use test...@lists.laptop.org or do we need to separate out Sugar
testing for non XO hardware? Whatever is decided I will follow, just making
sure we think it through.
Thanks
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Weekly test request reminders? (was Re: Priorities for testing)

[Tabitha Roder]

 Coordinating tests between OLPC  Sugar Labs is an interesting one. It's
 something I've been working on for several months [1]. Perhaps there could
 be a BOF session with a few people in San Fran to work out the simplest way
 forward?

 Tim


Added testing to the wiki page for San Fran Summit topics. Thanks for the
suggestion.
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[Sugar-devel] Global Education Conference 15-19 November 2010

[Tabitha Roder]

Hello Sugar lovers

The 2010 Global Education Conference will be held November 15 - 19, 2010,
online and free - I am wondering how much Sugar community support I could
get if I proposed a Sugar session, It would mean that before the session
attendees would need to download Sugar on a Stick, I think it would be good
if we had community involved and able to help with running it in more than
just English and helping people, anyone want to be involved?

I am thinking of proposing an open discussion, where people who have tried
downloading Sugar on a Stick and using it give us feedback on their
experience and can ask questions of the Sugar community.  If people are
having installation problems we divert them to IRC channel (maybe
#sugar-newbies) for instant support, and keep the elluminate session focused
on education benefits, suggestions, etc.

So far we have English and Hindi listed, thanks Manu for offering support
for this session and bringing your experience with grade 6 and 7 in New
Delhi Sugar on a Stick deployment.

Thanks in advance.

Kind regards
Tabitha Roder
eLearning specialist and olpc volunteer
tabi...@tabitha.net.nz
Cell +64 21 482229

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Priorities for testing

[Tabitha Roder]

 That was a bit short notice. For the next test session, it would be nice
 if you could try Backup [1] and Restore [2].

 In Auckland we did test Backup and Restore today.  We post our testing
summaries to two mailing lists: test...@lists.laptop.org,
olpc...@lists.laptop.org
Basically they worked, though it was a bit confusing that you don't open
restore and then choose the file on the USB. We couldn't use another XOs
backup file (which is good, right?).
Some instructions for the user might be helpful - when you open the backup
activity would be good to click a question mark and see explanation of
activity, like what happens in the finance activity. Also, there was no
obvious notification that the backup file creation was completed.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Priorities for testing

[Tabitha Roder]

  Tried to click on the file on the usb that says it is the journal backup
 for
  this laptop - it seems to open the restore activity but hard to tell as
 not
  labelled as such in the frame

 Can you elaborate on this, please? I just tried on both Sugar 0.90 and
 0.82 and it's labelled clearly in the Frame each time: Journal backup
 of ... on 0.82 and Restore + Journal backup of ... on 0.90.
 Did you see something else or did you expect some additional information
 in the Frame? If the former, the logs (both shell*.log and
 org.sugarlabs.Restore*.log) would be useful.

 Normally you get the name of the activity in the frame not the name of the
file, we are getting the name of the file. I was expecting to see Restore
in the frame and in the activity itself see some files I can choose from to
restore (so if I did a backup once a week to my USB stick I could choose the
newest backup file to restore or an older one if my last backup was bad).
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Re: [Sugar-devel] #2141 UNSP: Memory and CPU status indicator for the frame.

[Tabitha Roder]

 On 16 September 2010 03:53, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Agreed -- that's a terrible heuristic. And happy/sad face is a
 terrible UI. The computer is not happy or sad; it's _working_.


I recently learned that when an autistic child played a Gcompris game on
Sugar and were rewarded with a smiling clown they freaked out and didn't
want to get the answers right anymore. The parent picked up on the problem
and tried other Gcompris games with flowers and the child was happy to be
rewarded with flowers so now they only play the flower games.

When I was in Samoa at their olpc deployment, I foudn the kids started lots
of activities but no one had told them how to stop an activity. I tried to
explain why the XOs were not responsive by saying that the computer was like
a cup and each activity added water to the cup, and after 2 or 3 activities
were running the cup was full so they had to stop activities before the cup
was full and that would make room for new activities to start. Now I don't
know if that was the best way of explaining it, as a cup doesn't really
explain clearly the removal of load. Can we come up with a good load
analogy? For some reason I have the image of the cart loaded so heavy that
the horse is lifted off the ground. I don't think that is appropriate.

Use of colours to indicate health can also be complicated as green for go
and red for stop are quite Western colour interpretations.

There is also the scenario in the opposite direction when you consider wifi
strength of signal - when it is full that is a good thing, and empty is bad.


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Re: [Sugar-devel] journal sort options

[Tabitha Roder]

 Forty one years?  Two years would be fine.  Check the time on your
 computer to see if it is set to the current year?


 How do I set the time please? I have been meaning to ask that for ages! It
would be good if this was in my settings / control panel so the user can
check their time and date.
I have only found the timezone.
Thanks
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Volunteer certificates

[Tabitha Roder]

  Maybe that could be an inducement to volunteer for Sugar Labs.  Make a
  significant contribution and somebody in authority, maybe Walter
  Bender, gives you a cool title.  Maybe a signed certificate you could
  hang in the office of your day job.
 



I survived the wilds of a deployment in a developing country certificate
would be awesome, considering the stomach upsets it is quite an achievement
;-p

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse-115 stops when pop-up tab closes

[Tabitha Roder]

On 12/08/2010, Christoph Derndorfer christoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Okay, submitted the bug which should hit Sascha Silbe's inbox for moderation
 right about now.

http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2155

We have this problem too with os300py and the lavaspot wifi hotspot
login in Samoa.

Reported badly privately last week (little internet at that time). I
will grab a tcpdump of it happening and attach to ticket.

The quit is /fast/ like it core dumped. I tried messing with quotas to
get a core but was unsuccessful. Tips? Where would a core be dropped?
If the process does die untidily, where is this fact logged? Where
does it's stderr go? stdout and stderr go to the log file, so it
should  say signal 11 in the log if it seg faulted, right?

I can reproduce for the next 24 hours and have good net access once
again, if there is something I can do to diagnose, please let me know.
(we leave samoa tomorrow).

Tom
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Re: [Sugar-devel] backups

[Tabitha Roder]

On 12/08/2010, S Page skierp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Interesting!  I think Journal backup to the school server has been a
 feature since XS 0.4 and Release 8.2, see
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Blueprints:Datastore_Simple_Backup_and_Restore
 , and that's what your picture shows.  I assume you're referring to
 the recent Sugar work (I think
 http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2010-June/025094.html
 that has added backup to locally-attached volumes.

We just upgraded half the Samoan deployment using this feature to
restore their work. They were on 8.2.0 (build 767) so I wrote a backup
script which simply makes a tar file on the usb:

#! /bin/sh

SERIAL=`cat /ofw/serial-number`
BACKUP=`dirname $0`/backup

mkdir -p $BACKUP/$SERIAL
cd /home/olpc/.sugar/default
tar -czf $BACKUP/$SERIAL/datastore.tar.gz datastore
echo backed up journal to $BACKUP/$SERIAL/datastore.tar.gz

Put that file on a usb stick, insert into the XO and run the script
(when doing a mass upgrade, ctrl-alt-neighbourhood gets to a terminal
quickly). The tar file on the usb contains the whole journal. The
dextrose restore will load it, but there is a bug if you are coming
from early builds, see http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2149 and an
additional bug which I haven't reported yet (migration fails if an
entry in in the source journal doesn't have a preview). Migration
isn't perfect, but record photos and write documents survive fine.

If you want to restore to a different xo, change the serial number of
the tar file. You should be able to restore manually if your
destination build doesn't have a restore feature, just replace the
datastore directory with the one in the backup and ctrl-alt-erase
restart (I'm not sure how safe this is, the running system may try to
write to the old journal during the shutdown, migration happens on
startup).

Tom
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[Sugar-devel] Journal Migration

[Tabitha Roder]

I found and fixed a bug in the dextrose journal migration.
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2149

Could someone who knows what the are doing please look it over. In
particular, I'm concerned that the migration steps between version 1
and version 5 are missing.

I'm about to migrate the Samoan deployment from 767 to os300py.

Thanks
Tom
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Re: [Sugar-devel] question from wellington testers

[Tabitha Roder]

Thanks heaps for getting back to me so quickly. I will pass back to
Wellington testers.

2008/12/21 Morgan Collett morgan.coll...@gmail.com

 On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 14:16, Marco Pesenti Gritti
 marc...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
  On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Morgan Collett
  morgan.coll...@gmail.com wrote:
  As far as I know, our new Gadget-based server collaboration uses
  friends in the following way: When there are more people on the server
  than you can see, in Neighborhood View you will always see your
  friends, and then a random selection of other people and activities.
  This makes it more significant to friend people you know and want to
  collaborate with, so that you will see them again. Friends View is
  then a quick way to see which of your friends are on line, and to
  remove friends.
 
  To clarify for Tabitha, this is functionality that is *not* in 8.2.0
  and 8.2.1, but we hope will be available in 9.1.0.

 Right, I intended to mention that and forgot...

 Regards
 Morgan




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[Sugar-devel] question from wellington testers

[Tabitha Roder]

Hello

We would like to know what the friends view is for. We have used
neighbourhood view to join each others activities - we have about a dozen
XOs - but cant do this from friends view - dont know if it is a bug or not
meant to.

Thanks!

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Tabitha Roder

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