Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar tryout (was Re: sugarlabs.org redesign) [Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 61, Issue 55]

2013-11-08 Thread satellit


On 11/08/2013 03:28 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
I don't think we should be suggestive of Sugar on a tablet until we 
have a minimally realistic idea of how to get it done. There is enough 
talk about this Sugar-on-Android which is not coming... :)


Though you are right that the Cubox-i might send the wrong message. I 
was seeing it more like a vehicle for the software but, yeah, the 
hardware won't be ignored. It would a better way to demo to developers 
or possible hardware partners.


Another idea. Sugar in a web browser. It would be the easiest to get 
running for the users and it's consistent with the current direction 
of development. Lots of work left to have enough activities for it to 
be a compelling experience... Maybe virtualized Sugar is the short 
term goal,* Sugar in a web browser is the long term one.



*Many of these are already available here:
 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Sugar-in-Virtualization
 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Virtual_machines

There are many distributions where sugar is supported:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Linux_distributions_where_Sugar_is_available

Tom Gilliard

 satellit on #sugar, #schoolserver, and #fedora-qa on freenode IRC


On Friday, 8 November 2013, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote:

  The larger problem is the absence of a marketing strategy, we
need to know
  where we are going to communicate effectively. In particular,
we need to
  choose and implement how to offer Sugar tryout to teachers and
journalists.


 I can think of a couple of approaches

 * Get Sugar running well on the CuBox-i. Find budget to buy a
few of those
 to distribute to chosen journalist and teachers. Try to partner with
 SolidRun to offer Sugar as an out-of-the-box installation option.


Although the hardware specs are a good target for Sugar3, I
believe that suggesting a really small box with 5 cables connected
to it to showcase a K-9 educational platform, may retract from the
feasibility and thoroughness of the project.
A decent rooted tablet (ie Nexus 7) running Sugar on top of Linux,
even if the performance is not the best, would be much more catchy
and maybe suggestive of a Sugar-on-Android to come.
You can still do the CuBox thing but not for journalists and teachers.

 * Make it easy to run Sugar inside VirtualBox on Windows and OS
X. Without
 having investigated too deeply it seems that a two step process
would be
 both realistically implementable and easy enough for the user

 1 Install virtualbox
 2 Install a Sugar application (which would take care of setting
up the
 appliance).


This is certainly a good idea but it must work as advertised ie in
1 click after the VM software is installed.
I would only add Parallels-VM/VMware appliances since may already
be present in these closed OSs and can really provide a single
click to Sugar.

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[Sugar-devel] Fwd: Re: [Bug 4973] Browse 131 ( part of task-sugar) has missing toolbars but starts

2013-10-22 Thread satellit




 Original Message 
Subject: 	Re: [Bug 4973] Browse 131 ( part of task-sugar) has missing 
toolbars but starts

Date:   Tue, 22 Oct 2013 07:20:08 -0700
From:   satellit satelli...@gmail.com
To: Manuel Hiebel bugzilla-dae...@mageia.org
CC: walter.ben...@gmail.com, satelli...@gmail.com



On 10/22/2013 03:10 AM, Manuel Hiebel wrote:

https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4973

--- Comment #6 from Manuel Hiebel manuel.mag...@hiebel.eu ---
This message is a reminder that Mageia 2 is nearing its end of life.
Approximately one month from now Mageia will stop maintaining and issuing
updates for Mageia 2. At that time this bug will be closed as WONTFIX (EOL) if
it remains open with a Mageia 'version' of '2'.

Package Maintainer: If you wish for this bug to remain open because you plan to
fix it in a currently maintained version, simply change the 'version' to a
later Mageia version prior to Mageia 2's end of life.

Bug Reporter: Thank you for reporting this issue and we are sorry that we may
not be able to fix it before Mageia 2 is end of life.  If you would still like
to see this bug fixed and are able to reproduce it against a later version of
Mageia, you are encouraged to click on Version and change it against that
version of Mageia.

Although we aim to fix as many bugs as possible during every release's
lifetime, sometimes those efforts are overtaken by events. Often a more recent
Mageia release includes newer upstream software that fixes bugs or makes them
obsolete.

I am only able to test. I am not the package maintainer, and do not have
the skills to change this.

Cordially;

Tom Gilliard
satellit on freenode

*here is the wiki page I maintain:

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mageia



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[Sugar-devel] Fwd: Re: [opensuse-edu] Final spurt: openSUSE Education for 13.1

2013-10-22 Thread satellit




 Original Message 
Subject:Re: [opensuse-edu] Final spurt: openSUSE Education for 13.1
Date:   Tue, 22 Oct 2013 07:47:23 +0200
From:   Lars Vogdt lr...@suse.de
To: satellit satelli...@gmail.com



Hi Tom

satellit satelli...@gmail.com schrieb:

I hope a new sugar-desktop will become available.  I see that latest in

build system was for : sugar 0.96.3:
  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/OpenSUSE#Sugar_12.1

Fedora 20 Beta is up to 0.99


Good point! I forgot to have a look at the sugar repo for a long time. I'm 
unsure about the original maintainers for that repo - are you willing/able to 
help packaging or testing?

With kind regards,
Lars




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