Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Music Keyboard-6
2013/3/27 Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org - Future-future: it would be great to show the corresponding note in the musical representation [2], [...] recording would be nice, play-along [...] but that probably let the scope of the activity explode :) +1 and +1 May be we can propose these as tasks to GSoC. I have been working some time ago on a staff widget to show the notes [1]. Has pending to draw notes with sharps and flats (black keys in the piano). [1] http://git.sugarlabs.org/stafflib/test ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Music Keyboard-6
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Good. About the tooltips, I was not sure about the scales denomination. In some places, the scales with letters is named German and in other is American ! The scale starting in DO can be named Latin, but is not really clear for me and there are a lot of changes by countries and in the history. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_note Yes, I looked about a good way as well but could not find a global labeling myself. As you say, some say latin, others say german... We need a musicologist here... Caryl Bigheno might be able to chime in on this, she has a background in teaching music. cjl ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Music Keyboard-6
On 03/21/2013 08:06 PM, Sugar Labs Activities wrote: Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4654 Sugar Platform: 0.98 - 0.98 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28522/music_keyboard-6.xo Release notes: This activity show a piano keyboard, and in devices with touch screen, can be used to play music. Can be used with a xo keyboard too, showing the played note in the screen. Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org Thanks Gonzalo for working on this awesome addition to the activity suite. I played a bit with it today and here a few feedback items: - the initially selected instrument is not selected, when I change the instrument, it is selected fine. As the widget to select an instrument is a list depending on the selection you can not always see the selected instrument, maybe you want to show the currently selected instrument as well in the toolbar or make that clear by other means - it is great that you can show different labels on the keyboard, the icon for the hardware keyboard mode is not really clear maybe you can reuse the icon from the Sugar control panel, I would add tooltips to the icons (they should hide automatically when you click the icon, recent fixes have anded for this in the sugar-toolkit-gtk3), finding good text for the tooltip involves a bit of research I guess [1], it would be great to have no-labels at all mode as well - when I hold down 'w' and 'r' pressing 't' will not give any visual or musical feedback - 'y' or 'u' does work, same that 'z' and 'c' work but 'x' does not when holding down 'w' and 'r' at the same time - sound: this is a question for the OLPC audio developers, there is a lot of noise and clipping while playing - would be fantastic to fix this as well - Future-future: it would be great to show the corresponding note in the musical representation [2], [...] recording would be nice, play-along [...] but that probably let the scope of the activity explode :) Regards, Simon [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_%28musical_note%29 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Middle_C.png ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Music Keyboard-6
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote: On 03/21/2013 08:06 PM, Sugar Labs Activities wrote: Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.**org/addon/4654http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4654 Sugar Platform: 0.98 - 0.98 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.**org/downloads/file/28522/** music_keyboard-6.xohttp://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28522/music_keyboard-6.xo Release notes: This activity show a piano keyboard, and in devices with touch screen, can be used to play music. Can be used with a xo keyboard too, showing the played note in the screen. Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.**org http://activities.sugarlabs.org Thanks Gonzalo for working on this awesome addition to the activity suite. I played a bit with it today and here a few feedback items: Thanks!. Can we add it to the favorite activities in the new images to expose it to more testers? - the initially selected instrument is not selected, when I change the instrument, it is selected fine. As the widget to select an instrument is a list depending on the selection you can not always see the selected instrument, maybe you want to show the currently selected instrument as well in the toolbar or make that clear by other means Agree. We need think how is the best way to show the selected instrument. I don't like put labels in the toolbar, but in this case, may be is not a problem. - it is great that you can show different labels on the keyboard, the icon for the hardware keyboard mode is not really clear maybe you can reuse the icon from the Sugar control panel, I would add tooltips to the icons (they should hide automatically when you click the icon, recent fixes have anded for this in the sugar-toolkit-gtk3), finding good text for the tooltip involves a bit of research I guess [1], it would be great to have no-labels at all mode as well Good. About the tooltips, I was not sure about the scales denomination. In some places, the scales with letters is named German and in other is American ! The scale starting in DO can be named Latin, but is not really clear for me and there are a lot of changes by countries and in the history. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_note - when I hold down 'w' and 'r' pressing 't' will not give any visual or musical feedback - 'y' or 'u' does work, same that 'z' and 'c' work but 'x' does not when holding down 'w' and 'r' at the same time Good catch. Requires research. - sound: this is a question for the OLPC audio developers, there is a lot of noise and clipping while playing - would be fantastic to fix this as well Yes. - Future-future: it would be great to show the corresponding note in the musical representation [2], [...] recording would be nice, play-along [...] but that probably let the scope of the activity explode :) +1 and +1 May be we can propose these as tasks to GSoC. Regards, Simon [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Do_%28musical_note%29https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_%28musical_note%29 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**File:Middle_C.pnghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Middle_C.png ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Music Keyboard-6
On 03/27/2013 12:27 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote: On 03/21/2013 08:06 PM, Sugar Labs Activities wrote: Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.**org/addon/4654http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4654 Sugar Platform: 0.98 - 0.98 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.**org/downloads/file/28522/** music_keyboard-6.xohttp://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28522/music_keyboard-6.xo Release notes: This activity show a piano keyboard, and in devices with touch screen, can be used to play music. Can be used with a xo keyboard too, showing the played note in the screen. Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.**org http://activities.sugarlabs.org Thanks Gonzalo for working on this awesome addition to the activity suite. I played a bit with it today and here a few feedback items: Thanks!. Can we add it to the favorite activities in the new images to expose it to more testers? Yes, is a good idea! Daniel can you add the musical keyboard to the favorites in 13.2.0? - the initially selected instrument is not selected, when I change the instrument, it is selected fine. As the widget to select an instrument is a list depending on the selection you can not always see the selected instrument, maybe you want to show the currently selected instrument as well in the toolbar or make that clear by other means Agree. We need think how is the best way to show the selected instrument. I don't like put labels in the toolbar, but in this case, may be is not a problem. Yes, the toolbar is the place for actions, not the best place to show status only items. Reordering the list to always have the selected item on top is not really good neither as it might be confusing to the user. Or how about, you scroll to the row with the currently selected item? That should work UI and technical wise. - it is great that you can show different labels on the keyboard, the icon for the hardware keyboard mode is not really clear maybe you can reuse the icon from the Sugar control panel, I would add tooltips to the icons (they should hide automatically when you click the icon, recent fixes have anded for this in the sugar-toolkit-gtk3), finding good text for the tooltip involves a bit of research I guess [1], it would be great to have no-labels at all mode as well Good. About the tooltips, I was not sure about the scales denomination. In some places, the scales with letters is named German and in other is American ! The scale starting in DO can be named Latin, but is not really clear for me and there are a lot of changes by countries and in the history. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_note Yes, I looked about a good way as well but could not find a global labeling myself. As you say, some say latin, others say german... We need a musicologist here... - when I hold down 'w' and 'r' pressing 't' will not give any visual or musical feedback - 'y' or 'u' does work, same that 'z' and 'c' work but 'x' does not when holding down 'w' and 'r' at the same time Good catch. Requires research. Yes, might be an issue with the underlying musical engine. - sound: this is a question for the OLPC audio developers, there is a lot of noise and clipping while playing - would be fantastic to fix this as well Yes. - Future-future: it would be great to show the corresponding note in the musical representation [2], [...] recording would be nice, play-along [...] but that probably let the scope of the activity explode :) +1 and +1 May be we can propose these as tasks to GSoC. Yes, sounds good to me. Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Music Keyboard-6
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4654 Sugar Platform: 0.98 - 0.98 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28522/music_keyboard-6.xo Release notes: This activity show a piano keyboard, and in devices with touch screen, can be used to play music. Can be used with a xo keyboard too, showing the played note in the screen. Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
