Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Mockups of Home view showing "Start new" ring and separate row of icons for resume
On 01/18/2010 12:11 AM, Wade Brainerd wrote: > On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: >> On 01/17/2010 11:05 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: >>> I think we ought to have a Template and structure for deployments, >>> along the lines of the Feature wiki pages [1]. Then we could ask each >>> deployment to create new pages under [[Deployments/]]. >>> >>> Would anyone mind if I created [[Deployments/Deployment_Template]] and >>> a [[Deployments/...]] category? >>> >>> Wade >>> >>> [1] - http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Feature_Template >> >> If we do not have something like that yet - I think it would be a very good >> thing to setup. And yes, a template like the Feature one would help to >> structure that information. >> >> Thanks, >>Simon >> > > Okay, I took a stab at this. I'm not much for writing long > descriptions, so any help with fleshing out [1] and [2] is greatly > appreciated. Also, any suggestions for new / tweaked template fields > are also welcome. > > Gerald& Simon, would you mind adding your deployments as the first > ones under http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployments? > > Best, > Wade > > [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployments > [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployments/Policy > Awesome, thanks Wade! I gave it a shot and added the Planetarium deplyoyment [1]. I cleaned a few appearances of the word 'Feature' in the deployment template ;p Regards, Simon [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployments/Planetarium ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Mockups of Home view showing "Start new" ring and separate row of icons for resume
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: > On 01/17/2010 11:05 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: >> I think we ought to have a Template and structure for deployments, >> along the lines of the Feature wiki pages [1]. Then we could ask each >> deployment to create new pages under [[Deployments/]]. >> >> Would anyone mind if I created [[Deployments/Deployment_Template]] and >> a [[Deployments/...]] category? >> >> Wade >> >> [1] - http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Feature_Template > > If we do not have something like that yet - I think it would be a very good > thing to setup. And yes, a template like the Feature one would help to > structure that information. > > Thanks, > Simon > Okay, I took a stab at this. I'm not much for writing long descriptions, so any help with fleshing out [1] and [2] is greatly appreciated. Also, any suggestions for new / tweaked template fields are also welcome. Gerald & Simon, would you mind adding your deployments as the first ones under http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployments? Best, Wade [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployments [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployments/Policy ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Mockups of Home view showing "Start new" ring and separate row of icons for resume
On 01/17/2010 11:05 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: > On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 22:59, Gerald Ardito wrote: >>> Simon, >>> >>> We are listed here: >>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Academic_papers >>> >>> But, so far, nowhere on the SugarLabs wiki. >>> Let me know if there is something I should do about that. >> >> Maybe here? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team/Places >> >> You could then, if needed, create a page for the pilot and link it from >> there. > > I think we ought to have a Template and structure for deployments, > along the lines of the Feature wiki pages [1]. Then we could ask each > deployment to create new pages under [[Deployments/]]. > > Would anyone mind if I created [[Deployments/Deployment_Template]] and > a [[Deployments/...]] category? > > Wade > > [1] - http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Feature_Template If we do not have something like that yet - I think it would be a very good thing to setup. And yes, a template like the Feature one would help to structure that information. Thanks, Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Mockups of Home view showing "Start new" ring and separate row of icons for resume
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 22:59, Gerald Ardito wrote: >> Simon, >> >> We are listed here: >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Academic_papers >> >> But, so far, nowhere on the SugarLabs wiki. >> Let me know if there is something I should do about that. > > Maybe here? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team/Places > > You could then, if needed, create a page for the pilot and link it from there. I think we ought to have a Template and structure for deployments, along the lines of the Feature wiki pages [1]. Then we could ask each deployment to create new pages under [[Deployments/]]. Would anyone mind if I created [[Deployments/Deployment_Template]] and a [[Deployments/...]] category? Wade [1] - http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Feature_Template ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Mockups of Home view showing "Start new" ring and separate row of icons for resume
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 22:59, Gerald Ardito wrote: > Simon, > > We are listed here: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Academic_papers > > But, so far, nowhere on the SugarLabs wiki. > Let me know if there is something I should do about that. Maybe here? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team/Places You could then, if needed, create a page for the pilot and link it from there. Regards, Tomeu > Thanks. > Gerald > > On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Simon Schampijer > wrote: >> >> On 01/17/2010 02:42 PM, Gerald Ardito wrote: >>> >>> Simon, >>> >>> I am a teacher in the Pierre Van Cortlandt Middle School in Croton on >>> Hudson, New York. We are in Westchester County, about 45 miles north of >>> New >>> York City. >>> We have 5 fifth grade classrooms where each child has an XO, and one >>> fifth >>> grade classroom using SOAS and Dell Netbooks. >>> >>> This is also the focus of my doctoral dissertation. >>> >>> Thanks for asking. >>> >>> Gerald >> >> Awesome, that sounds like a great environment for doing qualitative >> studies, like the ones christian is proposing. >> >> Is there a notion of this Sugar Pilot on the Sugarlabs wiki? Not sure >> where we would put it best btw, maybe there is a place already. I put notes >> about the Sugar Pilot here in Berlin at >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Planetarium/en (better ideas welcome). >> >> Regards, >> Simon >> > > > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Mockups of Home view showing "Start new" ring and separate row of icons for resume
Simon, We are listed here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Academic_papers But, so far, nowhere on the SugarLabs wiki. Let me know if there is something I should do about that. Thanks. Gerald On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: > On 01/17/2010 02:42 PM, Gerald Ardito wrote: > >> Simon, >> >> I am a teacher in the Pierre Van Cortlandt Middle School in Croton on >> Hudson, New York. We are in Westchester County, about 45 miles north of >> New >> York City. >> We have 5 fifth grade classrooms where each child has an XO, and one fifth >> grade classroom using SOAS and Dell Netbooks. >> >> This is also the focus of my doctoral dissertation. >> >> Thanks for asking. >> >> Gerald >> > > Awesome, that sounds like a great environment for doing qualitative > studies, like the ones christian is proposing. > > Is there a notion of this Sugar Pilot on the Sugarlabs wiki? Not sure where > we would put it best btw, maybe there is a place already. I put notes about > the Sugar Pilot here in Berlin at > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Planetarium/en (better ideas welcome). > > Regards, > Simon > > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Mockups of Home view showing "Start new" ring and separate row of icons for resume
On 01/17/2010 02:42 PM, Gerald Ardito wrote: > Simon, > > I am a teacher in the Pierre Van Cortlandt Middle School in Croton on > Hudson, New York. We are in Westchester County, about 45 miles north of New > York City. > We have 5 fifth grade classrooms where each child has an XO, and one fifth > grade classroom using SOAS and Dell Netbooks. > > This is also the focus of my doctoral dissertation. > > Thanks for asking. > > Gerald Awesome, that sounds like a great environment for doing qualitative studies, like the ones christian is proposing. Is there a notion of this Sugar Pilot on the Sugarlabs wiki? Not sure where we would put it best btw, maybe there is a place already. I put notes about the Sugar Pilot here in Berlin at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Planetarium/en (better ideas welcome). Regards, Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Mockups of Home view showing "Start new" ring and separate row of icons for resume
Simon, I am a teacher in the Pierre Van Cortlandt Middle School in Croton on Hudson, New York. We are in Westchester County, about 45 miles north of New York City. We have 5 fifth grade classrooms where each child has an XO, and one fifth grade classroom using SOAS and Dell Netbooks. This is also the focus of my doctoral dissertation. Thanks for asking. Gerald On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Simon Schampijer wrote: > On 01/16/2010 05:39 PM, Gerald Ardito wrote: > >> I think the the two ring idea might work really well with students. I can >> show the two options to my 5th graders and see what they prefer, if that >> would help. >> > > Feedback from the field is always helpful. In the design meeting those two > options were pretty much turned down. I will post the result in the 'resume > vs start new' thread. > > In which deployment are you involved if I may know? > > Regards, > Simon > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Mockups of Home view showing "Start new" ring and separate row of icons for resume
On 16.01.2010, at 16:45, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote: > Thanks, Gary. Before settling on the current design for Home, we actually had > a very similar mockup to the first one you sent. > > While it addresses the issue Simon is mentioning on a structural level, it > isn't intuitive. The problem is the duplication of activity icons, which > leads to confusion. The distinction of gray and color icons isn't enough to > alleviate the confusion arising from having duplicate sets of icons. IMHO both this and the Journal list view would benefit greatly from using the preview thumbnails in addition to the activity icon. - Bert - ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Mockups of Home view showing "Start new" ring and separate row of icons for resume
On 01/16/2010 05:39 PM, Gerald Ardito wrote: > I think the the two ring idea might work really well with students. I can > show the two options to my 5th graders and see what they prefer, if that > would help. Feedback from the field is always helpful. In the design meeting those two options were pretty much turned down. I will post the result in the 'resume vs start new' thread. In which deployment are you involved if I may know? Regards, Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Mockups of Home view showing "Start new" ring and separate row of icons for resume
I think the the two ring idea might work really well with students. I can show the two options to my 5th graders and see what they prefer, if that would help. One question, in either model, what is the UI behavior. If I click on the "Resume" icon, am I presented with a browser into the Journal? Thanks. Gerald On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt < christianm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks, Gary. Before settling on the current design for Home, we actually > had a very similar mockup to the first one you sent. > > While it addresses the issue Simon is mentioning on a structural level, it > isn't intuitive. The problem is the duplication of activity icons, which > leads to confusion. The distinction of gray and color icons isn't enough to > alleviate the confusion arising from having duplicate sets of icons. > > We'll talk more in a few minutes, but I think there may be a solution to > our problem in the activity view. > > More soon... > > > Christian > > > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Gary C Martin wrote: > >> On 16 Jan 2010, at 15:26, Simon Schampijer wrote: >> >> > On 01/16/2010 04:14 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> >> >> Some quick mockups of a Home view idea mentioned in previous >> discussions. Just intended as extra material for todays irc design meeting. >> >> >> >> 1) Ring of activity icons reverts to the "Start new" behaviour; Journal >> icon is always shown for easier access, with recent activities shown below >> for quick resuming. Journal icon and recent activities are shown >> horizontally for better screen balance (at cost of not matching the real >> Journal list display orientation). >> >> >> >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Home_mockup_with_horizontal_journal_and_start_new_defaults.png >> >> >> >> 2) Same as above except that the Journal icon is top left and a top to >> bottom resume icon order is used so that recent activities are shown in the >> same order and direction as is experienced in the Journal list view: >> >> >> >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Home_mockup_with_journal_and_start_new_defaults.png >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> --Gary >> > >> > Hi Gary, >> > >> > thanks, I think that helps to better visualize this proposal. >> > >> > The problem I see with this design is, that the title of the activities >> does lack. I guess you would see it in a palette when hovering over it. But >> that would be as quick as going to the Journal directly. One could imagine >> displaying the title in the vertical layout, but that would make the home >> view crowded. >> > >> > Just a few thoughts, so I do not forget my first impressions ;p >> >> :-) >> >> Here's a 3rd for the mentioned double ring of activity icons; inside >> non-colour icons for "Start new" behaviour, outside ring of coloured icons >> for "Resume" behaviour. Journal icon shown at top of ring for easy access >> (note that its coloured icon in the "Start now" ring is now out of place): >> >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Home_mockup_with_double_ring_of_start_new_and_resume.png >> >> Regards, >> --Gary > > > > > -- > anyth...@christianmarcschmidt.com > 917/ 575 0013 > > http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com > http://www.linkedin.com/in/christianmarcschmidt > http://twitter.com/cms_ > > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Mockups of Home view showing "Start new" ring and separate row of icons for resume
Thanks, Gary. Before settling on the current design for Home, we actually had a very similar mockup to the first one you sent. While it addresses the issue Simon is mentioning on a structural level, it isn't intuitive. The problem is the duplication of activity icons, which leads to confusion. The distinction of gray and color icons isn't enough to alleviate the confusion arising from having duplicate sets of icons. We'll talk more in a few minutes, but I think there may be a solution to our problem in the activity view. More soon... Christian On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 16 Jan 2010, at 15:26, Simon Schampijer wrote: > > > On 01/16/2010 04:14 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > >> Hi folks, > >> > >> Some quick mockups of a Home view idea mentioned in previous > discussions. Just intended as extra material for todays irc design meeting. > >> > >> 1) Ring of activity icons reverts to the "Start new" behaviour; Journal > icon is always shown for easier access, with recent activities shown below > for quick resuming. Journal icon and recent activities are shown > horizontally for better screen balance (at cost of not matching the real > Journal list display orientation). > >> > >> > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Home_mockup_with_horizontal_journal_and_start_new_defaults.png > >> > >> 2) Same as above except that the Journal icon is top left and a top to > bottom resume icon order is used so that recent activities are shown in the > same order and direction as is experienced in the Journal list view: > >> > >> > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Home_mockup_with_journal_and_start_new_defaults.png > >> > >> Regards, > >> --Gary > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > thanks, I think that helps to better visualize this proposal. > > > > The problem I see with this design is, that the title of the activities > does lack. I guess you would see it in a palette when hovering over it. But > that would be as quick as going to the Journal directly. One could imagine > displaying the title in the vertical layout, but that would make the home > view crowded. > > > > Just a few thoughts, so I do not forget my first impressions ;p > > :-) > > Here's a 3rd for the mentioned double ring of activity icons; inside > non-colour icons for "Start new" behaviour, outside ring of coloured icons > for "Resume" behaviour. Journal icon shown at top of ring for easy access > (note that its coloured icon in the "Start now" ring is now out of place): > > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Home_mockup_with_double_ring_of_start_new_and_resume.png > > Regards, > --Gary -- anyth...@christianmarcschmidt.com 917/ 575 0013 http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/christianmarcschmidt http://twitter.com/cms_ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Mockups of Home view showing "Start new" ring and separate row of icons for resume
On 16 Jan 2010, at 15:26, Simon Schampijer wrote: > On 01/16/2010 04:14 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> Some quick mockups of a Home view idea mentioned in previous discussions. >> Just intended as extra material for todays irc design meeting. >> >> 1) Ring of activity icons reverts to the "Start new" behaviour; Journal icon >> is always shown for easier access, with recent activities shown below for >> quick resuming. Journal icon and recent activities are shown horizontally >> for better screen balance (at cost of not matching the real Journal list >> display orientation). >> >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Home_mockup_with_horizontal_journal_and_start_new_defaults.png >> >> 2) Same as above except that the Journal icon is top left and a top to >> bottom resume icon order is used so that recent activities are shown in the >> same order and direction as is experienced in the Journal list view: >> >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Home_mockup_with_journal_and_start_new_defaults.png >> >> Regards, >> --Gary > > Hi Gary, > > thanks, I think that helps to better visualize this proposal. > > The problem I see with this design is, that the title of the activities does > lack. I guess you would see it in a palette when hovering over it. But that > would be as quick as going to the Journal directly. One could imagine > displaying the title in the vertical layout, but that would make the home > view crowded. > > Just a few thoughts, so I do not forget my first impressions ;p :-) Here's a 3rd for the mentioned double ring of activity icons; inside non-colour icons for "Start new" behaviour, outside ring of coloured icons for "Resume" behaviour. Journal icon shown at top of ring for easy access (note that its coloured icon in the "Start now" ring is now out of place): http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Home_mockup_with_double_ring_of_start_new_and_resume.png Regards, --Gary ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Mockups of Home view showing "Start new" ring and separate row of icons for resume
On 01/16/2010 04:14 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > Hi folks, > > Some quick mockups of a Home view idea mentioned in previous discussions. > Just intended as extra material for todays irc design meeting. > > 1) Ring of activity icons reverts to the "Start new" behaviour; Journal icon > is always shown for easier access, with recent activities shown below for > quick resuming. Journal icon and recent activities are shown horizontally for > better screen balance (at cost of not matching the real Journal list display > orientation). > > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Home_mockup_with_horizontal_journal_and_start_new_defaults.png > > 2) Same as above except that the Journal icon is top left and a top to bottom > resume icon order is used so that recent activities are shown in the same > order and direction as is experienced in the Journal list view: > > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Home_mockup_with_journal_and_start_new_defaults.png > > Regards, > --Gary Hi Gary, thanks, I think that helps to better visualize this proposal. The problem I see with this design is, that the title of the activities does lack. I guess you would see it in a palette when hovering over it. But that would be as quick as going to the Journal directly. One could imagine displaying the title in the vertical layout, but that would make the home view crowded. Just a few thoughts, so I do not forget my first impressions ;p Thanks, Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Mockups of Home view showing "Start new" ring and separate row of icons for resume
Hi folks, Some quick mockups of a Home view idea mentioned in previous discussions. Just intended as extra material for todays irc design meeting. 1) Ring of activity icons reverts to the "Start new" behaviour; Journal icon is always shown for easier access, with recent activities shown below for quick resuming. Journal icon and recent activities are shown horizontally for better screen balance (at cost of not matching the real Journal list display orientation). http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Home_mockup_with_horizontal_journal_and_start_new_defaults.png 2) Same as above except that the Journal icon is top left and a top to bottom resume icon order is used so that recent activities are shown in the same order and direction as is experienced in the Journal list view: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Home_mockup_with_journal_and_start_new_defaults.png Regards, --Gary ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
