Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Super key as frame key
I agree with you. Note there already are 2 shortcuts: F6 and Ctl-Alt-F. Neither is any good IMHO. I have proposed to map CAPSLOCK in the past. Regards, Sebastian On 07/10/15 17:17, Sam P. wrote: > Hi All, > > Sugar makes no use of the super key for any short cuts. This makes > sense in the context of the XO, because of the lack of the key. > However, on normal computers with SoaS, the super key is often in a > more convenient spot than the function keys, epically on computers > than require the Fn modifier. > > In my opinion, the frame is a very important short cut in sugar. > Pressing the super key would be eaiser than F6, or moving the mouse > sometimes. Maybe the super key could trigger the frame. This would > be similar to GNOME, where the super key opens the overview. > > Should the super key be mapped to the frame or something else? > > Thanks, > Sam > > > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- I+D SomosAzucar.Org "icarito" #somosazucar en Freenode IRC "Nadie libera a nadie, nadie se libera solo. Los seres humanos se liberan en comunión" - P. Freire ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Super key as frame key
Hi All, Sugar makes no use of the super key for any short cuts. This makes sense in the context of the XO, because of the lack of the key. However, on normal computers with SoaS, the super key is often in a more convenient spot than the function keys, epically on computers than require the Fn modifier. In my opinion, the frame is a very important short cut in sugar. Pressing the super key would be eaiser than F6, or moving the mouse sometimes. Maybe the super key could trigger the frame. This would be similar to GNOME, where the super key opens the overview. Should the super key be mapped to the frame or something else? Thanks, Sam ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Super key as frame key
On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 09:17:35AM +1100, Sam P. wrote: > Hi All, > > Sugar makes no use of the super key for any short cuts. [...] Sugar uses it as a modifier in accelerators, see sugar-toolkit-gtk3:src/sugar3/eggaccelerators.c Sugar does not reference the modifier. No activities use the modifier. Some applications can use the modifier, such as Emacs. > This makes sense in the context of the XO, because of the lack of > the key. However, on normal computers with SoaS, the super key is > often in a more convenient spot than the function keys, epically on > computers than require the Fn modifier. You mean they require the Fn modifier to strike F6 otherwise it uses a local function? Rings a bell, MacBooks for a start, right? > In my opinion, the frame is a very important short cut in sugar. > Pressing the super key would be eaiser than F6, or moving the mouse > sometimes. Maybe the super key could trigger the frame. This would > be similar to GNOME, where the super key opens the overview. > > Should the super key be mapped to the frame or something else? Sounds like a solution looking for a problem. I don't think the Frame is that important to deserve two shortcuts; most actions can be completed without it, the rendering time is quite high, and you can't even use it to start activities the way the Unity and Gnome desktops can start apps or do searches. Correctly mapped keyboards generate the Super_L keysym, but there's also a Super_R keysym in some maps. There's also a Menu keysym on some commodity machines, between ALT and CTRL on the right-hand side. A trouble with having two shortcuts for the frame is that people will waste time looking for a key that isn't there. Removing the key from general use prevents it from being used by activities in future. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel