Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] Dextrose 3 patches report

2011-12-06 Thread David Farning
2011/12/5 Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com:
 2011/12/5 Rubén Rodríguez ru...@gnu.org:

 I will be sure to communicate to this list (and especially directly to
 Bernie) as that work moves forward, especially once we get an upstream
 commit of the glibc locales.

 Please ping me too if you modify the locale definitions, as we don't
 get them from glibc for TOAST.

 Yes, of course.  I appreciate Dextrose and Trisquel / TOAST being
 willing to hand manage the draft locales for now as we refine them.  I
 will be sure to broadcast to this list and narrow-cast to those
 working on the Puno image when the glibc locales are upstreamed.

 The main reason for not including in SL Sugar at this point is that we
 have encountered issues with builds of Activities for langs without a
 glibc locale and there is no urgent need for SL and OLPC to manage a
 local glibc file at the moment, I think waiting for the upstreaming
 makes sense for them.  Of course, if anyone wants the draft locales, I
 would be happy to share them.

Plus one.

A core vision of Dextrose is to serve as a testing platform for things
which are requested or required by individual deployments. Then after
a period of refinement they can be pushed upstream if they are
valuable and useful.

david

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] Dextrose 3 patches report

2011-12-06 Thread Walter Bender
2011/12/5 Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com:
 2011/12/5 Rubén Rodríguez ru...@gnu.org:

 I will be sure to communicate to this list (and especially directly to
 Bernie) as that work moves forward, especially once we get an upstream
 commit of the glibc locales.

 Please ping me too if you modify the locale definitions, as we don't
 get them from glibc for TOAST.

 Yes, of course.  I appreciate Dextrose and Trisquel / TOAST being
 willing to hand manage the draft locales for now as we refine them.  I
 will be sure to broadcast to this list and narrow-cast to those
 working on the Puno image when the glibc locales are upstreamed.

 The main reason for not including in SL Sugar at this point is that we
 have encountered issues with builds of Activities for langs without a
 glibc locale and there is no urgent need for SL and OLPC to manage a
 local glibc file at the moment, I think waiting for the upstreaming
 makes sense for them.  Of course, if anyone wants the draft locales, I
 would be happy to share them.

FWIW, this issue has been more an issue of packaging for upstreaming
to Fedora. Not an issue for OLPC builds themselves.

-walter


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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] Dextrose 3 patches report

2011-12-06 Thread Chris Leonard
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:
 The main reason for not including in SL Sugar at this point is that we
 have encountered issues with builds of Activities for langs without a
 glibc locale and there is no urgent need for SL and OLPC to manage a
 local glibc file at the moment, I think waiting for the upstreaming
 makes sense for them.  Of course, if anyone wants the draft locales, I
 would be happy to share them.

 FWIW, this issue has been more an issue of packaging for upstreaming
 to Fedora. Not an issue for OLPC builds themselves.


Yes, Walter has more correctly characterized the issue of missing
upstream glibc locales that was encountered.

Pure speculation on my part, but I suspect that the fix for this will
not only require a push to the glibc upstream, but a pull of those new
locales by Fedora before the errors go away for Fedora packaging

Such is the challenge of being on the leading edge of  new languages
in GNU/Linux distros, but it is well worth it.  It also emphasizes my
desire to have a truly polished locale submitted on the first go, as
waiting for patches to trickle down from Gnome into distros could
introduce more variability and frustration than needed.

cjl
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] Dextrose 3 patches report

2011-12-05 Thread Chris Leonard
2011/12/5 Rubén Rodríguez ru...@gnu.org:

 I will be sure to communicate to this list (and especially directly to
 Bernie) as that work moves forward, especially once we get an upstream
 commit of the glibc locales.

 Please ping me too if you modify the locale definitions, as we don't
 get them from glibc for TOAST.

Yes, of course.  I appreciate Dextrose and Trisquel / TOAST being
willing to hand manage the draft locales for now as we refine them.  I
will be sure to broadcast to this list and narrow-cast to those
working on the Puno image when the glibc locales are upstreamed.

The main reason for not including in SL Sugar at this point is that we
have encountered issues with builds of Activities for langs without a
glibc locale and there is no urgent need for SL and OLPC to manage a
local glibc file at the moment, I think waiting for the upstreaming
makes sense for them.  Of course, if anyone wants the draft locales, I
would be happy to share them.

cjl
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