Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] Report on Sl# 2080 , Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so.

2010-11-06 Thread Anurag Chowdhury
I again tried the patch on my XO-1.5 build-0.88.1 but with no improvement.
I made and saved the changed as written in your patch in the
pulsingicon.py file and restarted the sugar session to let the changes
take place but it didnt offer any changes for the good.

I hope we can test your patch on more XO devices to verify if its a
device specific problem.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Martin Dengler
mar...@martindengler.com wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 10:59:05PM +0530, Anurag Chowdhury wrote:
 Then I may have misinterpreted Gary's comment.I apologize in that case.

 But when I tested Martin's patch on my XO-1.5 , 0.88.1 build  , upon
 starting an activity the pulsing icon animation was replaced by a
 static grayscale svg icon of the activity ,whose screenshots I have
 placed at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Pulsing_icon_delayed_by_5_seconds.

 To reach to the above results I applied the changes suggested at
 http://www.martindengler.com/tmp/sl.o-2080/pulsingicon.py-set-new-colors-in-one-go-to-avoid-multiple-calls-to-SVG-rendering.patch

 Please let me know if I needed to add any more changes to get the
 patch working because the sole application of this patch doesn't
 produce the said changes at my end.

 I just tried it on 0.88-1 in the emulator and it worked fine.  At
 least one other person tried it on HEAD (as I did before) and it
 worked fine.  Can you try it again please, or let me know how you're
 applying the patch?

 Martin

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] Report on Sl# 2080 , Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so.

2010-11-05 Thread Walter Bender
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:

[snip]

 Is really needed the zoom?
 If we can't do it in a efficient way, may be we can use another metaphor.
 What about moving the icon from the position in the home view to the screen
 center?

Or perhaps a simple orbit.

 I think we must do all we can to start quickly the activities.

+1


 Gonzalo

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] Report on Sl# 2080 , Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so.

2010-11-05 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 13:46 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:

 
 Is really needed the zoom?
 If we can't do it in a efficient way, may be we can use another
 metaphor.
 What about moving the icon from the position in the home view to the
 screen center?
 I think we must do all we can to start quickly the activities.

+1.

We should *also* file bugs for the activities with icons that are very
slow to render. This affects negatively also startup of Sugar itself,
when such activities are displayed in the home view.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] Report on Sl# 2080 , Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so.

2010-11-05 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 01:46:27PM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
  Hmmm, no, with Martin's below linked patch pulse colour animation is good.
 
  The only extra thing I noted in my email was that the 1sec zoom effect is
  still not showing for anything by very simple icons (Log icon is simple
  enough, Distance is not), however the zoom effect is not showing with your
  'skip the first update' approach either. Fixing zoom efficiency should be
  looked at as a separate issue.
 
 
 Is really needed the zoom?
 If we can't do it in a efficient way, may be we can use another metaphor.
 What about moving the icon from the position in the home view to the screen
 center?
 I think we must do all we can to start quickly the activities.

I agree - I don't see any point in a zoom that's not shown.  It seems
like we might be able to get it quick enough before the next freeze,
though.  If not I wouldn't object to removing it.

 Gonzalo

Martin


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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] Report on Sl# 2080 , Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so.

2010-11-05 Thread Anurag Chowdhury
Then I may have misinterpreted Gary's comment.I apologize in that case.

But when I tested Martin's patch on my XO-1.5 , 0.88.1 build  , upon
starting an activity the pulsing icon animation was replaced by a
static grayscale svg icon of the activity ,whose screenshots I have
placed at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Pulsing_icon_delayed_by_5_seconds.

To reach to the above results I applied the changes suggested at
http://www.martindengler.com/tmp/sl.o-2080/pulsingicon.py-set-new-colors-in-one-go-to-avoid-multiple-calls-to-SVG-rendering.patch

Please let me know if I needed to add any more changes to get the
patch working because the sole application of this patch doesn't
produce the said changes at my end.

Also I would wish to ask for Gary's experience after he applied my
patch which I think he once referred to in the previous issue thread.
I worked on the pointers provided there by Gary and would love further
suggestions.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi Anurag,

 On 5 Nov 2010, at 16:19, Anurag Chowdhury anu...@seeta.in wrote:

 On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com 
 wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 06:05:16PM +0530, Anurag Chowdhury wrote:
 Sure , we can work to get a combined patch but your patch still
 disables the animation in most of the icons

 I think you're talking about something else than my patch.  No
 animation is disabled.  Not sure what's wrong but the patch you linked
 to[1] in your wiki page clearly does nothing like disabling any
 animation.
 Well, I actually didn't meant that. I was talking about the change
 noticed by Gary

 Hmmm, no, with Martin's below linked patch pulse colour animation is good.

 The only extra thing I noted in my email was that the 1sec zoom effect is 
 still not showing for anything by very simple icons (Log icon is simple 
 enough, Distance is not), however the zoom effect is not showing with your 
 'skip the first update' approach either. Fixing zoom efficiency should be 
 looked at as a separate issue.

 --Gary

 (and me too) i.e. after the application of the patch
 we don't get to see the pulsing icon animation in most of the icons ,
 all we see is only the grayscale svg icon , this anomaly is also
 linked with the complexity of the icons i.e. more complex icons don't
 show up the animation while the simpler ones do.

 Regards
 Anurag

 Martin

 1. 
 http://www.martindengler.com/tmp/sl.o-2080/pulsingicon.py-set-new-colors-in-one-go-to-avoid-multiple-calls-to-SVG-rendering.patch

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] Report on Sl# 2080 , Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so.

2010-11-05 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 10:59:05PM +0530, Anurag Chowdhury wrote:
 Then I may have misinterpreted Gary's comment.I apologize in that case.
 
 But when I tested Martin's patch on my XO-1.5 , 0.88.1 build  , upon
 starting an activity the pulsing icon animation was replaced by a
 static grayscale svg icon of the activity ,whose screenshots I have
 placed at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Pulsing_icon_delayed_by_5_seconds.
 
 To reach to the above results I applied the changes suggested at
 http://www.martindengler.com/tmp/sl.o-2080/pulsingicon.py-set-new-colors-in-one-go-to-avoid-multiple-calls-to-SVG-rendering.patch
 
 Please let me know if I needed to add any more changes to get the
 patch working because the sole application of this patch doesn't
 produce the said changes at my end.

I just tried it on 0.88-1 in the emulator and it worked fine.  At
least one other person tried it on HEAD (as I did before) and it
worked fine.  Can you try it again please, or let me know how you're
applying the patch?

Martin


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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] Report on Sl# 2080 , Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so.

2010-11-05 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 17:53 +, Gary Martin wrote:

 The loss of the zoom animation for non-trivial icons is a regression,
 it was fine 2 years back with the OLPC build 767, sugar 0.82.1 and
 Fedora 9 (just retested here on an XO-1).

We upgraded cairo and pixman in Dextrose to the versions shipped with
Fedora 14. There was no time to run a benchmark, but it seems a lot
faster now. Still not fast enough to see the zoom animation, though.

Dragging Marco in: do you know if something was changed in Sugar or
librsvg that could have made impacted performance?

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