Re: [Sugar-devel] [PROPOSAL] Inform the user when an activity is being installed and more
2013/1/22 Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com What if you download a new version from ASLO, will you have to remember to open the bundle first in the Journal before the existing version is replaced? I have the same question. I guess it will be replaced. -- Saludos Juan Ignacio Rodríguez *CeibalJAM!* *Somos Azucar* ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [PROPOSAL] Inform the user when an activity is being installed and more
I'm not sure what is the proper behavior should be implemented. So, we could vote: Option 1: Don't install the activity automatically and show a message in the journal when we click it for first time, to confirm or cancel the installation. Option 2: Show an alert when we download or copy (from an external device) a .xo, immediately. That Alert could appear in the journal or in Browse, respectively. Vote for (you think is) the best option or suggest your own idea. Thanks, aguz 2013/1/16 Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org 2013/1/16 Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez a...@sugarlabs.org: Well, so I will provide a patch the next week, I think. Go Agus, go! -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [PROPOSAL] Inform the user when an activity is being installed and more
I am for option 1. The activity should be installed when executed by first time. We can ask for confirmation or not (or ask when the activity is bigger than a determinate size) My principal concern is related to big size activities, like the wikipedia*, in this case, we copy a file to the journal, the activity is uncompressed and installed, is slow, the disk can be filled, and is obscure to the user what is happening. Gonzalo On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez a...@sugarlabs.org wrote: I'm not sure what is the proper behavior should be implemented. So, we could vote: Option 1: Don't install the activity automatically and show a message in the journal when we click it for first time, to confirm or cancel the installation. Option 2: Show an alert when we download or copy (from an external device) a .xo, immediately. That Alert could appear in the journal or in Browse, respectively. Vote for (you think is) the best option or suggest your own idea. Thanks, aguz 2013/1/16 Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org 2013/1/16 Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez a...@sugarlabs.org: Well, so I will provide a patch the next week, I think. Go Agus, go! -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [PROPOSAL] Inform the user when an activity is being installed and more
I am for option 1. Tony ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [PROPOSAL] Inform the user when an activity is being installed and more
Option 1, and I am 100% agree with what you said Gonzalo. 2013/1/21 fors...@ozonline.com.au I am for option 1. Tony ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Saludos Juan Ignacio Rodríguez *CeibalJAM!* *Somos Azucar* ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [PROPOSAL] Inform the user when an activity is being installed and more
Hi folks, On 21 Jan 2013, at 20:04, Ignacio Rodríguez nachoe...@gmail.com wrote: Option 1, and I am 100% agree with what you said Gonzalo. So just to be clear on this... This means when someone downloads a new activity from ASLO, or some other location, you will not find it in the home screen favourites or list views. Only if you go to the Journal, find it, and click the bundle will it install and subsequently be visible elsewhere. What if you download a new version from ASLO, will you have to remember to open the bundle first in the Journal before the existing version is replaced? Regards, --Gary 2013/1/21 fors...@ozonline.com.au I am for option 1. Tony ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Saludos Juan Ignacio Rodríguez CeibalJAM! Somos Azucar ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [PROPOSAL] Inform the user when an activity is being installed and more
Well, so I will provide a patch the next week, I think. Regards. 2013/1/14 Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org 2013/1/12 fors...@ozonline.com.au: On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez a...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi everybody, Now, if we download or copy a .xo to the journal, it is installed automatically and doesn't informs to the user that the activity is being installed. Is this a change in 13.1.0? I think in the past we installed the activity when was launched by first time. No, I don't think this is a recent change, its been this way for a long time. Your question though is good because it illustrates the merit of the proposal. The current behaviour is counter intuitive. Copying/downloading to Journal installs but deleting from Journal does not uninstall. Strangely, deleting from the Journal details view does uninstall or prevents the install when you arrive there from 'show in journal'. Sugar should make the process understandable, not black box, I support the proposal. Yes, Sugar should behave better in XO installs, and I celebrate Agustin proposal. -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [PROPOSAL] Inform the user when an activity is being installed and more
2013/1/16 Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez a...@sugarlabs.org: Well, so I will provide a patch the next week, I think. Go Agus, go! -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [PROPOSAL] Inform the user when an activity is being installed and more
2013/1/12 fors...@ozonline.com.au: On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez a...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi everybody, Now, if we download or copy a .xo to the journal, it is installed automatically and doesn't informs to the user that the activity is being installed. Is this a change in 13.1.0? I think in the past we installed the activity when was launched by first time. No, I don't think this is a recent change, its been this way for a long time. Your question though is good because it illustrates the merit of the proposal. The current behaviour is counter intuitive. Copying/downloading to Journal installs but deleting from Journal does not uninstall. Strangely, deleting from the Journal details view does uninstall or prevents the install when you arrive there from 'show in journal'. Sugar should make the process understandable, not black box, I support the proposal. Yes, Sugar should behave better in XO installs, and I celebrate Agustin proposal. -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [PROPOSAL] Inform the user when an activity is being installed and more
Hi everybody, Now, if we download or copy a .xo to the journal, it is installed automatically and doesn't informs to the user that the activity is being installed. We could show an alert with a countdown to tell the user that one activity will be installed and give the option to cancel this installation. That alert can appear on the journal (when we copy a .xo from a external device) and in Browse when we are downloading one (instead of the alert which appears when the file is fully downloaded). And could be good to show the summary and another information about the bundle on the detail view of journal. What do you think about? Cheers, aguz ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [PROPOSAL] Inform the user when an activity is being installed and more
Good idea!+1 Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:31:28 -0200 From: a...@sugarlabs.org To: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: [Sugar-devel] [PROPOSAL] Inform the user when an activity is being installed and more Hi everybody, Now, if we download or copy a .xo to the journal, it is installed automatically and doesn't informs to the user that the activity is being installed. We could show an alert with a countdown to tell the user that one activity will be installed and give the option to cancel this installation. That alert can appear on the journal (when we copy a .xo from a external device) and in Browse when we are downloading one (instead of the alert which appears when the file is fully downloaded). And could be good to show the summary and another information about the bundle on the detail view of journal. What do you think about? Cheers, aguz ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [PROPOSAL] Inform the user when an activity is being installed and more
2013/1/12 Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez a...@sugarlabs.org: Hi everybody, Now, if we download or copy a .xo to the journal, it is installed automatically and doesn't informs to the user that the activity is being installed. We could show an alert with a countdown to tell the user that one activity will be installed and give the option to cancel this installation. That alert can appear on the journal (when we copy a .xo from a external device) and in Browse when we are downloading one (instead of the alert which appears when the file is fully downloaded). I would expand your proposal to all Journal file manipulation processes. Not only when it installs an activity, also when it's copying files to an external device, etc. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [PROPOSAL] Inform the user when an activity is being installed and more
Great Idea. +1 But.. Dextrose 4 (I think), that when downloading the same package does not install. Just leave it in the journal. 2013/1/12 S. Daniel Francis fran...@sugarlabs.org 2013/1/12 Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez a...@sugarlabs.org: Hi everybody, Now, if we download or copy a .xo to the journal, it is installed automatically and doesn't informs to the user that the activity is being installed. We could show an alert with a countdown to tell the user that one activity will be installed and give the option to cancel this installation. That alert can appear on the journal (when we copy a .xo from a external device) and in Browse when we are downloading one (instead of the alert which appears when the file is fully downloaded). I would expand your proposal to all Journal file manipulation processes. Not only when it installs an activity, also when it's copying files to an external device, etc. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Saludos Juan Ignacio Rodríguez *CeibalJAM!* *Somos Azucar* ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [PROPOSAL] Inform the user when an activity is being installed and more
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez a...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi everybody, Now, if we download or copy a .xo to the journal, it is installed automatically and doesn't informs to the user that the activity is being installed. Is this a change in 13.1.0? I think in the past we installed the activity when was launched by first time. We could show an alert with a countdown to tell the user that one activity will be installed and give the option to cancel this installation. That alert can appear on the journal (when we copy a .xo from a external device) and in Browse when we are downloading one (instead of the alert which appears when the file is fully downloaded). And could be good to show the summary and another information about the bundle on the detail view of journal. +1 Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [PROPOSAL] Inform the user when an activity is being installed and more
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez a...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi everybody, Now, if we download or copy a .xo to the journal, it is installed automatically and doesn't informs to the user that the activity is being installed. Is this a change in 13.1.0? I think in the past we installed the activity when was launched by first time. No, I don't think this is a recent change, its been this way for a long time. Your question though is good because it illustrates the merit of the proposal. The current behaviour is counter intuitive. Copying/downloading to Journal installs but deleting from Journal does not uninstall. Strangely, deleting from the Journal details view does uninstall or prevents the install when you arrive there from 'show in journal'. Sugar should make the process understandable, not black box, I support the proposal. Tony ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
