Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] backup : problem opening /library/users/XXXX/datastore-xxxxx/store

2009-05-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Hamilton Chua hamilton.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good news. I had a chance to test it today and it looks like the
 Moodle UI is picking up on the back ups now.

 I'll be doing a couple of tests over the course of the next few days.
 I'll be sure to let you know if we encounter problems.

Excellent. Thanks for reporting back.

I have an additional patch that solves a problem with users with
single quotes in their nicknames (the name you pick on your XO).

cheers,



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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] backup : problem opening /library/users/XXXX/datastore-xxxxx/store

2009-05-11 Thread Hamilton Chua
Martin,

Good news. I had a chance to test it today and it looks like the
Moodle UI is picking up on the back ups now.

I'll be doing a couple of tests over the course of the next few days.
I'll be sure to let you know if we encounter problems.

Thanks you so much for quickly updating the moodle backup ui.

Best,

Hamilton

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Hamilton Chua hamilton.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 Martin,


 Thanks, sorry I don't have a lot of activities to backup yet on my test
 SoaS.

 I'll give this a go today and report back the results here.

 Best,

 Hamilton



 On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 19:23 +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Martin Langhoff
 martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
  Let's keep this on the list. Is that from a recent SoaS? The datastore
  storage format has changed then, and we need to add support to Moodle
  for it.
 
  More work! :-p

 Done - not tested much -- the zipfile you've given me didn't have much data.
 http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/martin/moodle.git/commit/?h=mdl19-xsid=5f522dbef1878284d15ae2ef0872c8dd5caa1953

 So I need your help in reporting whether it works well for your SoaS
 clients. I assume you're already using my moodle branch, so a mere git
 pull will get you the right code... ;-)

 Note: It won't list metadata-only entries. If there's no 'data'
 file, it's not listed.

 cheers,


 m

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] backup : problem opening /library/users/XXXX/datastore-xxxxx/store

2009-05-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 (metadata is data).

Snarky but true comment: if/when that's the case, put the data in the
data part. For example, the new Browse does store valuable data
(unlike before) and does put it in the data. So the entries for
Browse.xo (of the 0.84 series) are displayed.

 The spurious generation of Journal entries is a problem that the Glucose
 developers are working on (and might benefit by having some of those Journal
 logs).

As it gets fixed, more data files will appear, and the XS will display
them. The presence of the data file is a good indication that the
problem is solved for that particular app ;-)

Sugar devs and UI designers (Eben?) -- is this a reasonable approach?
If not, why not?

cheers,



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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] backup : problem opening /library/users/XXXX/datastore-xxxxx/store

2009-05-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 08:33, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 (metadata is data).

 Snarky but true comment: if/when that's the case, put the data in the
 data part. For example, the new Browse does store valuable data
 (unlike before) and does put it in the data. So the entries for
 Browse.xo (of the 0.84 series) are displayed.

 The spurious generation of Journal entries is a problem that the Glucose
 developers are working on (and might benefit by having some of those Journal
 logs).

 As it gets fixed, more data files will appear, and the XS will display
 them. The presence of the data file is a good indication that the
 problem is solved for that particular app ;-)

 Sugar devs and UI designers (Eben?) -- is this a reasonable approach?
 If not, why not?

I would say that data is the part of the activity state that should be
treated as an opaque blob by everybody who cannot interpret the file
format specified in the mime-type property.

Metadata is a structure of pairs of keyed values, some keys are
standard and present in all entries, and can be interpreted by
everybody.

I don't think we can say that metadata or data are good or bad, both
are different aspects of the activity state and should be treated
equally because it's at the author's discretion to use one or another.

Regards,

Tomeu

 cheers,



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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] backup : problem opening /library/users/XXXX/datastore-xxxxx/store

2009-05-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Martin Langhoff
martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Let's keep this on the list. Is that from a recent SoaS? The datastore
 storage format has changed then, and we need to add support to Moodle
 for it.

 More work! :-p

Done - not tested much -- the zipfile you've given me didn't have much data.
http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/martin/moodle.git/commit/?h=mdl19-xsid=5f522dbef1878284d15ae2ef0872c8dd5caa1953

So I need your help in reporting whether it works well for your SoaS
clients. I assume you're already using my moodle branch, so a mere git
pull will get you the right code... ;-)

Note: It won't list metadata-only entries. If there's no 'data'
file, it's not listed.

cheers,


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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] backup : problem opening /library/users/XXXX/datastore-xxxxx/store

2009-05-06 Thread Frederick Grose
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Martin Langhoff
martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Martin Langhoff
 ...

 Note: It won't list metadata-only entries. If there's no 'data'
 file, it's not listed.


Consider the use case where the Journal is used as an log for user activity.
 Faithful reproduction of that record would be valuable (metadata is data).

The spurious generation of Journal entries is a problem that the Glucose
developers are working on (and might benefit by having some of those Journal
logs).

Thanks for your great contributions!  --Fred
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] backup : problem opening /library/users/XXXX/datastore-xxxxx/store

2009-05-06 Thread Hamilton Chua
Martin,


Thanks, sorry I don't have a lot of activities to backup yet on my test
SoaS.

I'll give this a go today and report back the results here.

Best,

Hamilton



On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 19:23 +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Martin Langhoff
 martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
  Let's keep this on the list. Is that from a recent SoaS? The datastore
  storage format has changed then, and we need to add support to Moodle
  for it.
 
  More work! :-p
 
 Done - not tested much -- the zipfile you've given me didn't have much data.
 http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/martin/moodle.git/commit/?h=mdl19-xsid=5f522dbef1878284d15ae2ef0872c8dd5caa1953
 
 So I need your help in reporting whether it works well for your SoaS
 clients. I assume you're already using my moodle branch, so a mere git
 pull will get you the right code... ;-)
 
 Note: It won't list metadata-only entries. If there's no 'data'
 file, it's not listed.
 
 cheers,
 
 
 m


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