Re: [Sugar-devel] ./osbuild shell not valid command
> On November 24, 2015 at 2:14 PM James Cameron wrote: > > > I'd like to see *.spec.in and a debian equivalent hosted in the > upstream repositories, along with README files that explain how to > make packages from the repositories. > Here here, total agreement from me. > However, I don't see the need for COPR, automatic test suites, or > other automata. These automata obscure the process and lead to silos > of expertise, and when people move on the remaining automata fall > down. > I'll agree that the automated testing can wait, but I'll disagree on COPR. COPR is enabled by using "dnf enable SugarLabs/sugar-0.107"(doesn't exist yet) as the equivalent in the Debian world to "deb [trusted=yes] http://dev.laptop.org/pub/us trusty main" but without having to host the buildsystem. > I'd prefer to reduce complexity rather than increase it, giving more > time for people to hack on the actual code. Think we have the same goal, just trying to reduce the hoops for newer developers and for easier public testing before release. Jerry ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] ./osbuild shell not valid command
I'd like to see *.spec.in and a debian equivalent hosted in the upstream repositories, along with README files that explain how to make packages from the repositories. However, I don't see the need for COPR, automatic test suites, or other automata. These automata obscure the process and lead to silos of expertise, and when people move on the remaining automata fall down. I'd prefer to reduce complexity rather than increase it, giving more time for people to hack on the actual code. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] ./osbuild shell not valid command
I'm suggesting that the COPR be created with the username SugarLabs with access granted as needed. I'm in no position to act on SL behalf, that would need to come from the powers that be, I don't want to step on any toes. That way it would be "dnf copr enable SugarLabs/sugar" and not someones personal account in the docs and public archives. Oh yea, you could do some integration where a commit occurs and a rpm pops out. ;) Just my take on things, Jerry > On November 24, 2015 at 2:24 AM "Sam P." wrote: > > > Hi Jerry, > > A COPR would be amazing! I think that it would be amazing to have a set > of > rpms for the master branch automatically built. > > But I think there is still a role for sugar-build for like building and > developing :) It's very bad for testing though. > > Re the test suite: good idea. I have no idea why it doesn't run now and > I > don't have the time to dive into it now. > > Thanks, > Sam > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote: > > > Sam/others who might chime in. > > > > There has to be a better way than that, in the past there was automatic > > testing that replied on COPR(a web based rpm build system for Fedora) > > building the rpms. What is missing from git for packaging is a rpm > > spec.in > > for Fedora and whatever Debain uses that could be set via the Makefile, > > officially blessed by SugarLabs for other developers. Fedora has their > > spec > > file under git control for their release purposes, same holds true at > > OLPC > > where rpms are created for the XO's use but there is no reason not to > > have > > the packaging files freely available anyway, with that in place > > generating > > rpm out of git becomes so much easier. This will greatly help with > > testing > > as then anybody can now point COPR at their own git repo to generate a > > snapshot and build the rpms to test without having to roll the source > > rpm > > first. All you need to do is dnf enable your own copr repo and dnf > > update > > and test away like how I tested the issues with F23. Now making things > > easier for everybody should help trying to make sugar better, that is > > the > > objective right? It opens the possibility that someone can resurrect > > the > > automatic test suite that was in place in the past working again. > > > > Jerry > > > > > On November 23, 2015 at 8:33 PM Free Dom > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Is there an alternative since I am on Fedora 23? > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Free Dom > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I am on Fedora 23. > > > > > > > > ./osbuild shell > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Sam P. wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hi, > > > >> > > > >> What distribution are you on? I don't know if osbuild shell works > > > >> on > > > >> fedora because broot is not used. > > > >> > > > >> You should be able to not use the shell though. Eg. ./osbuild > > > >> run, > > > >> ./osbuild pull, ./osbuild build, etc. > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> Sam > > > >> > > > >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 1:25 PM Free Dom > > > >> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> I am getting this error every time I attempt to run ./osbuild > > > >>> shell > > > >>> from > > > >>> the guide at > > > >>> https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Is there a dependency I am missing? > > > >>> ___ > > > >>> Sugar-devel mailing list > > > >>> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > ___ > > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] ./osbuild shell not valid command
Hi Jerry, A COPR would be amazing! I think that it would be amazing to have a set of rpms for the master branch automatically built. But I think there is still a role for sugar-build for like building and developing :) It's very bad for testing though. Re the test suite: good idea. I have no idea why it doesn't run now and I don't have the time to dive into it now. Thanks, Sam On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote: > Sam/others who might chime in. > > There has to be a better way than that, in the past there was automatic > testing that replied on COPR(a web based rpm build system for Fedora) > building the rpms. What is missing from git for packaging is a rpm spec.in > for Fedora and whatever Debain uses that could be set via the Makefile, > officially blessed by SugarLabs for other developers. Fedora has their spec > file under git control for their release purposes, same holds true at OLPC > where rpms are created for the XO's use but there is no reason not to have > the packaging files freely available anyway, with that in place generating > rpm out of git becomes so much easier. This will greatly help with testing > as then anybody can now point COPR at their own git repo to generate a > snapshot and build the rpms to test without having to roll the source rpm > first. All you need to do is dnf enable your own copr repo and dnf update > and test away like how I tested the issues with F23. Now making things > easier for everybody should help trying to make sugar better, that is the > objective right? It opens the possibility that someone can resurrect the > automatic test suite that was in place in the past working again. > > Jerry > > > On November 23, 2015 at 8:33 PM Free Dom > > wrote: > > > > > > Is there an alternative since I am on Fedora 23? > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Free Dom > > wrote: > > > > > I am on Fedora 23. > > > > > > ./osbuild shell > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Sam P. wrote: > > > > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> What distribution are you on? I don't know if osbuild shell works on > > >> fedora because broot is not used. > > >> > > >> You should be able to not use the shell though. Eg. ./osbuild run, > > >> ./osbuild pull, ./osbuild build, etc. > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Sam > > >> > > >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 1:25 PM Free Dom > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> I am getting this error every time I attempt to run ./osbuild shell > > >>> from > > >>> the guide at https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Is there a dependency I am missing? > > >>> ___ > > >>> Sugar-devel mailing list > > >>> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > >>> > > >> > > > > > ___ > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] ./osbuild shell not valid command
Sam/others who might chime in. There has to be a better way than that, in the past there was automatic testing that replied on COPR(a web based rpm build system for Fedora) building the rpms. What is missing from git for packaging is a rpm spec.in for Fedora and whatever Debain uses that could be set via the Makefile, officially blessed by SugarLabs for other developers. Fedora has their spec file under git control for their release purposes, same holds true at OLPC where rpms are created for the XO's use but there is no reason not to have the packaging files freely available anyway, with that in place generating rpm out of git becomes so much easier. This will greatly help with testing as then anybody can now point COPR at their own git repo to generate a snapshot and build the rpms to test without having to roll the source rpm first. All you need to do is dnf enable your own copr repo and dnf update and test away like how I tested the issues with F23. Now making things easier for everybody should help trying to make sugar better, that is the objective right? It opens the possibility that someone can resurrect the automatic test suite that was in place in the past working again. Jerry > On November 23, 2015 at 8:33 PM Free Dom > wrote: > > > Is there an alternative since I am on Fedora 23? > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Free Dom > wrote: > > > I am on Fedora 23. > > > > ./osbuild shell > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Sam P. wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> What distribution are you on? I don't know if osbuild shell works on > >> fedora because broot is not used. > >> > >> You should be able to not use the shell though. Eg. ./osbuild run, > >> ./osbuild pull, ./osbuild build, etc. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Sam > >> > >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 1:25 PM Free Dom > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I am getting this error every time I attempt to run ./osbuild shell > >>> from > >>> the guide at https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html > >>> > >>> > >>> Is there a dependency I am missing? > >>> ___ > >>> Sugar-devel mailing list > >>> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > >>> > >> > > > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] ./osbuild shell not valid command
Seems that this occurred before as well http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2014-June/048474.html However, I do not find a .lock file in my files, even when using ls -A On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Sam P. wrote: > Please file a bug describing how you encountered that issue. > > For a quick fix "rm .lock .lock*" > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 1:36 PM Free Dom wrote: > >> What if another osbuild instance is running? >> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Sam P. wrote: >> >>> Yes. To build and run Sugar, use: >>> >>> ./osbuild run >>> >>> To run the tests, use: >>> >>> ./osbuild test >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 1:33 PM Free Dom >>> wrote: >>> Is there an alternative since I am on Fedora 23? On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Free Dom wrote: > I am on Fedora 23. > > ./osbuild shell > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Sam P. wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> What distribution are you on? I don't know if osbuild shell works on >> fedora because broot is not used. >> >> You should be able to not use the shell though. Eg. ./osbuild run, >> ./osbuild pull, ./osbuild build, etc. >> >> Thanks, >> Sam >> >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 1:25 PM Free Dom >> wrote: >> >>> I am getting this error every time I attempt to run ./osbuild shell >>> from the guide at >>> https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html >>> >>> >>> Is there a dependency I am missing? >>> ___ >>> Sugar-devel mailing list >>> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >>> >> > >> ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] ./osbuild shell not valid command
Please file a bug describing how you encountered that issue. For a quick fix "rm .lock .lock*" On Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 1:36 PM Free Dom wrote: > What if another osbuild instance is running? > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Sam P. wrote: > >> Yes. To build and run Sugar, use: >> >> ./osbuild run >> >> To run the tests, use: >> >> ./osbuild test >> >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 1:33 PM Free Dom >> wrote: >> >>> Is there an alternative since I am on Fedora 23? >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Free Dom >>> wrote: >>> I am on Fedora 23. ./osbuild shell On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Sam P. wrote: > Hi, > > What distribution are you on? I don't know if osbuild shell works on > fedora because broot is not used. > > You should be able to not use the shell though. Eg. ./osbuild run, > ./osbuild pull, ./osbuild build, etc. > > Thanks, > Sam > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 1:25 PM Free Dom > wrote: > >> I am getting this error every time I attempt to run ./osbuild shell >> from the guide at >> https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html >> >> >> Is there a dependency I am missing? >> ___ >> Sugar-devel mailing list >> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >> > >>> > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] ./osbuild shell not valid command
What if another osbuild instance is running? On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Sam P. wrote: > Yes. To build and run Sugar, use: > > ./osbuild run > > To run the tests, use: > > ./osbuild test > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 1:33 PM Free Dom wrote: > >> Is there an alternative since I am on Fedora 23? >> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Free Dom >> wrote: >> >>> I am on Fedora 23. >>> >>> ./osbuild shell >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Sam P. wrote: >>> Hi, What distribution are you on? I don't know if osbuild shell works on fedora because broot is not used. You should be able to not use the shell though. Eg. ./osbuild run, ./osbuild pull, ./osbuild build, etc. Thanks, Sam On Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 1:25 PM Free Dom wrote: > I am getting this error every time I attempt to run ./osbuild shell > from the guide at > https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html > > > Is there a dependency I am missing? > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > >>> >> ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] ./osbuild shell not valid command
Yes. To build and run Sugar, use: ./osbuild run To run the tests, use: ./osbuild test On Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 1:33 PM Free Dom wrote: > Is there an alternative since I am on Fedora 23? > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Free Dom > wrote: > >> I am on Fedora 23. >> >> ./osbuild shell >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Sam P. wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> What distribution are you on? I don't know if osbuild shell works on >>> fedora because broot is not used. >>> >>> You should be able to not use the shell though. Eg. ./osbuild run, >>> ./osbuild pull, ./osbuild build, etc. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Sam >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 1:25 PM Free Dom >>> wrote: >>> I am getting this error every time I attempt to run ./osbuild shell from the guide at https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html Is there a dependency I am missing? ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >>> >> > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] ./osbuild shell not valid command
Is there an alternative since I am on Fedora 23? On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Free Dom wrote: > I am on Fedora 23. > > ./osbuild shell > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Sam P. wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> What distribution are you on? I don't know if osbuild shell works on >> fedora because broot is not used. >> >> You should be able to not use the shell though. Eg. ./osbuild run, >> ./osbuild pull, ./osbuild build, etc. >> >> Thanks, >> Sam >> >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 1:25 PM Free Dom >> wrote: >> >>> I am getting this error every time I attempt to run ./osbuild shell from >>> the guide at https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html >>> >>> >>> Is there a dependency I am missing? >>> ___ >>> Sugar-devel mailing list >>> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >>> >> > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] ./osbuild shell not valid command
I am on Fedora 23. ./osbuild shell On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Sam P. wrote: > Hi, > > What distribution are you on? I don't know if osbuild shell works on > fedora because broot is not used. > > You should be able to not use the shell though. Eg. ./osbuild run, > ./osbuild pull, ./osbuild build, etc. > > Thanks, > Sam > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 1:25 PM Free Dom wrote: > >> I am getting this error every time I attempt to run ./osbuild shell from >> the guide at https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html >> >> >> Is there a dependency I am missing? >> ___ >> Sugar-devel mailing list >> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >> > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] ./osbuild shell not valid command
Hi, What distribution are you on? I don't know if osbuild shell works on fedora because broot is not used. You should be able to not use the shell though. Eg. ./osbuild run, ./osbuild pull, ./osbuild build, etc. Thanks, Sam On Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 1:25 PM Free Dom wrote: > I am getting this error every time I attempt to run ./osbuild shell from > the guide at https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html > > > Is there a dependency I am missing? > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] ./osbuild shell not valid command
I am getting this error every time I attempt to run ./osbuild shell from the guide at https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html Is there a dependency I am missing? ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
