Re: [Sugar-devel] Development Team Meeting, 27th February 10PM UTC

2018-02-27 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 09:42:14AM +1100, James Cameron wrote:
> Developers are invited to attend the next team meeting, on Tuesday
> 27th February, at 5PM US/Eastern (10PM UTC).

Attending were Walter, Devin (pikurasa), James (Quozl), Carlos
(unimaro), Ifeanyi, octamois, and dzho.

> Agenda to include
> 
> - what we have been working on,

Chasing bugs in Music Blocks, Speak, Memorize.  Porting activities to
GTK+ 3 and Sugargame 1.2.  Planning pinned repository changes.
and Six port.  Music Blocks class seminar at New England Conservatory.

> - port to Python 3 and Six, see GitHub issues below,
> 
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/issues/382 (Port to Six)
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/issues/787 (Port to Python 3)
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/hello-world-fork/issues/2 (Port to Python 3)
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-datastore/issues/7 (Port to Python 3)
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-artwork/issues/102 (Port to Python 3)

Issues are cross-linked to indicate dependencies; the order in which
work needs to be done so that later work can build on earlier work.

Issues are for tracking, not for ownership.

Other GSoC project ideas might use tracking issues too.

Some porting work has begun; octamois on sugar-artwork.

Process isolation between Sugar shell and activities, with the D-Bus
API for communication, should make it easy to run both Python 2 and
Python 3 on the same system.  But only while the distribution of Linux
has Python 2 environment packages.

Critical is the GTK+ 3 toolkit.  It is to build and install both
Python 2 and Python 3.  Debian may package Python 2 and Python 3 for
as long as there is a Python 2 activity they package.  Fedora may only
package Python 3, we guess; nobody present with clear prediction.

Datastore is a special case; it has minimal toolkit needs and is well
isolated.

Implications for Python 2 GTK+ 2 activities;

- they may continue to work with the Python 2 GTK+ 2 toolkit,

- they may continue to work when started by a Python 3 Sugar shell,

- there is no Python 3 GTK+ 2 binding,

- way forward is to Python 2 GTK+ 3 then Python 3,

A test was added for these activities.

> #sugar-meeting irc.freenode.net
> 
> Visitors also welcome.

Two items of general business;

- Ifeany is concerned at lack of change to user interface and user
  experience of Sugar desktop since 2014, and wondered if it was
  caused by missing in action design team.  James confirmed design
  team has had few demands on their time.  Walter pointed out the full
  colour icon design issue is current and suggested engagement via
  SLOB.

- unimaro proposed the parental or teacher control feature as a
  project, and was asked to write it up in more detail and post to
  sugar-devel@.  Proposals like this for non-user control over Sugar
  features have come up in the past but have not gained traction.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Development Team Meeting, 27th February 10PM UTC

2018-02-27 Thread Carlos mauro
I'll be there.

El 27 feb. 2018 3:26 a. m., "Ifeanyi Peter" 
escribió:

> OK Thanks
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:19, James Cameron
>  wrote:
> No, sorry.
>
> I don't log in to Google and I block tracking cookies.  Siri on macOS
> Mail does recognise the text as a calendar entry; perhaps you need a
> mail client with deeper features.
>
> If anyone else wants to "add a Google calendar", and maintain it,
> please do so.
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 08:09:25AM +, Ifeanyi Peter wrote:
> > Nice.
> >
> > I'll love to be in the meeting. Please can you add a Google calendar
> next time?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >
> >On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 23:42, James Cameron
> > wrote:
> >Developers are invited to attend the next team meeting, on Tuesday
> >27th February, at 5PM US/Eastern (10PM UTC).
> >
> >Agenda to include
> >
> >- what we have been working on,
> >
> >- port to Python 3 and Six, see GitHub issues below,
> >
> >#sugar-meeting irc.freenode.net
> >
> >Visitors also welcome.
> >
> >--
> >
> >References:
> >
> >[2]https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/issues/382 (Port
> to Six)
> >[3]https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/issues/787 (Port to Python 3)
> >[4]https://github.com/sugarlabs/hello-world-fork/issues/2 (Port to
> Python
> >3)
> >[5]https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-datastore/issues/7 (Port to
> Python 3)
> >[6]https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-artwork/issues/102 (Port to
> Python 3)
> >
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> > References:
> >
> > [1] https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android
> > [2] https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/issues/382
> > [3] https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/issues/787
> > [4] https://github.com/sugarlabs/hello-world-fork/issues/2
> > [5] https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-datastore/issues/7
> > [6] https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-artwork/issues/102
> > [7] http://quozl.netrek.org/
> > [8] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [9] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>
> > Developers are invited to attend the next team meeting, on Tuesday
> > 27th February, at 5PM US/Eastern (10PM UTC).
> >
> > Agenda to include
> >
> > - what we have been working on,
> >
> > - port to Python 3 and Six, see GitHub issues below,
> >
> > #sugar-meeting irc.freenode.net
> >
> > Visitors also welcome.
> >
> > --
> >
> > References:
> >
> > https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/issues/382 (Port to Six)
> > https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/issues/787 (Port to Python 3)
> > https://github.com/sugarlabs/hello-world-fork/issues/2 (Port to Python
> 3)
> > https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-datastore/issues/7 (Port to Python 3)
> > https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-artwork/issues/102 (Port to Python 3)
> >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Development Team Meeting, 27th February 10PM UTC

2018-02-27 Thread James Cameron
No, sorry.

I don't log in to Google and I block tracking cookies.  Siri on macOS
Mail does recognise the text as a calendar entry; perhaps you need a
mail client with deeper features.

If anyone else wants to "add a Google calendar", and maintain it,
please do so.

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 08:09:25AM +, Ifeanyi Peter wrote:
> Nice.
> 
> I'll love to be in the meeting. Please can you add a Google calendar next 
> time?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 23:42, James Cameron
>  wrote:
> Developers are invited to attend the next team meeting, on Tuesday
> 27th February, at 5PM US/Eastern (10PM UTC).
> 
> Agenda to include
> 
> - what we have been working on,
> 
> - port to Python 3 and Six, see GitHub issues below,
> 
> #sugar-meeting irc.freenode.net
> 
> Visitors also welcome.
> 
> --
> 
> References:
> 
> [2]https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/issues/382 (Port to 
> Six)
> [3]https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/issues/787 (Port to Python 3)
> [4]https://github.com/sugarlabs/hello-world-fork/issues/2 (Port to Python
> 3)
> [5]https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-datastore/issues/7 (Port to Python 
> 3)
> [6]https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-artwork/issues/102 (Port to Python 
> 3)
> 
> --
> James Cameron
> [7]http://quozl.netrek.org/
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> 
> References:
> 
> [1] https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android
> [2] https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/issues/382
> [3] https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/issues/787
> [4] https://github.com/sugarlabs/hello-world-fork/issues/2
> [5] https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-datastore/issues/7
> [6] https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-artwork/issues/102
> [7] http://quozl.netrek.org/
> [8] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> [9] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

> Developers are invited to attend the next team meeting, on Tuesday
> 27th February, at 5PM US/Eastern (10PM UTC).
> 
> Agenda to include
> 
> - what we have been working on,
> 
> - port to Python 3 and Six, see GitHub issues below,
> 
> #sugar-meeting irc.freenode.net
> 
> Visitors also welcome.
> 
> --
> 
> References:
> 
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/issues/382 (Port to Six)
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/issues/787 (Port to Python 3)
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/hello-world-fork/issues/2 (Port to Python 3)
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-datastore/issues/7 (Port to Python 3)
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-artwork/issues/102 (Port to Python 3)
> 
> -- 
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> http://quozl.netrek.org/
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[Sugar-devel] Development Team Meeting, 27th February 10PM UTC

2018-02-26 Thread James Cameron
Developers are invited to attend the next team meeting, on Tuesday
27th February, at 5PM US/Eastern (10PM UTC).

Agenda to include

- what we have been working on,

- port to Python 3 and Six, see GitHub issues below,

#sugar-meeting irc.freenode.net

Visitors also welcome.

--

References:

https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/issues/382 (Port to Six)
https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/issues/787 (Port to Python 3)
https://github.com/sugarlabs/hello-world-fork/issues/2 (Port to Python 3)
https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-datastore/issues/7 (Port to Python 3)
https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-artwork/issues/102 (Port to Python 3)

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