Re: [Sugar-devel] Etoys in RC4 SoaS-v7 does not start when jabber is connected. ( f17 release is imminent )

2012-05-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 27.05.2012, at 19:41, Thomas C Gilliard wrote:

 On 05/27/2012 05:37 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
 On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Thomas C Gilliard
 satel...@bendbroadband.com  wrote:
 I have been testing the RC4 f17 release of SoaS [1] and I see a problem with
 e-toys:
 If jabber.sugarlabs.org  is connected via a wireless AP, or wired network,
 e-toys will not start:
 
  DBusError: Process /usr/bin/sugar-presence-service exited with status 1
 
 Etoys runs fine if wireless is not logged in and/or wired network is not
 connected. (no jabber connected)
 
 As Etoys is a favorite on the f3 ring and f17 release is imminent, I feel
 that this is an important bug to look at.
 Sorry, it was reported too late. It should have also been reported to
 the soas list.
 I have been reporting this occasional failure, But only realized what was 
 causing this behavior 3 days ago. : (
 
 It is possible to use E-toys but the DBusError created by the starting 
 example is very distracting. See bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3640#comment:1
 
 The start up example seems to require process /usr/bin/sugar-presence-service


SoaS still has the old Etoys version (4.1). Etoys 5 was released along with 
Sugar 0.96. It is more robust wrt presence service failures.

- Bert -

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Etoys in RC4 SoaS-v7 does not start when jabber is connected. ( f17 release is imminent )

2012-05-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 28.05.2012, at 15:52, Peter Robinson wrote:

 On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de 
 wrote:
 SoaS still has the old Etoys version (4.1). Etoys 5 was released along with 
 Sugar 0.96. It is more robust wrt presence service failures.
 
 It has issues with translations and the non standard location it installs them


Why is that a problem? Seems to have worked fine so far - and nothing else but 
Etoys is using these translation files.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Etoys in RC4 SoaS-v7 does not start when jabber is connected. ( f17 release is imminent )

2012-05-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg

On 28.05.2012, at 15:52, Peter Robinson wrote:

 On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de 
 wrote:
 SoaS still has the old Etoys version (4.1). Etoys 5 was released along with 
 Sugar 0.96. It is more robust wrt presence service failures.
 
 it also still needs the sugar-presence-service package which has been 
 obsolete for a long
 time.


Etoys 5 is no worse than previous versions in that respect. On the contrary, it 
deals better with presence service deterioration.

Re-implementing the presence service takes time, I'm on my own, can't make it 
happen soon.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Etoys in RC4 SoaS-v7 does not start when jabber is connected. ( f17 release is imminent )

2012-05-27 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Thomas C Gilliard
satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote:
 I have been testing the RC4 f17 release of SoaS [1] and I see a problem with
 e-toys:
 If jabber.sugarlabs.org  is connected via a wireless AP, or wired network,
 e-toys will not start:

  DBusError: Process /usr/bin/sugar-presence-service exited with status 1

 Etoys runs fine if wireless is not logged in and/or wired network is not
 connected. (no jabber connected)

 As Etoys is a favorite on the f3 ring and f17 release is imminent, I feel
 that this is an important bug to look at.

Sorry, it was reported too late. It should have also been reported to
the soas list.

Peter
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Etoys in RC4 SoaS-v7 does not start when jabber is connected. ( f17 release is imminent )

2012-05-27 Thread Thomas C Gilliard



On 05/27/2012 05:37 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Thomas C Gilliard
satel...@bendbroadband.com  wrote:

I have been testing the RC4 f17 release of SoaS [1] and I see a problem with
e-toys:
If jabber.sugarlabs.org  is connected via a wireless AP, or wired network,
e-toys will not start:

  DBusError: Process /usr/bin/sugar-presence-service exited with status 1

Etoys runs fine if wireless is not logged in and/or wired network is not
connected. (no jabber connected)

As Etoys is a favorite on the f3 ring and f17 release is imminent, I feel
that this is an important bug to look at.

Sorry, it was reported too late. It should have also been reported to
the soas list.
I have been reporting this occasional failure, But only realized what 
was causing this behavior 3 days ago. : (


It is possible to use E-toys but the DBusError created by the starting 
example is very distracting. See bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3640#comment:1


The start up example seems to require process 
/usr/bin/sugar-presence-service



Peter
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[Sugar-devel] Etoys in RC4 SoaS-v7 does not start when jabber is connected. ( f17 release is imminent )

2012-05-24 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
I have been testing the RC4 f17 release of SoaS [1] and I see a problem 
with e-toys:
If jabber.sugarlabs.org  is connected via a wireless AP, or wired 
network, e-toys will not start:


  DBusError: Process /usr/bin/sugar-presence-service exited with status 1

Etoys runs fine if wireless is not logged in and/or wired network is not 
connected. (no jabber connected)


As Etoys is a favorite on the f3 ring and f17 release is imminent, I 
feel that this is an important bug to look at.


Sugar on a Stick 7 (Quandong)
Fedora release 17 (beefy Miracle)
0.96.1

Tom Gilliard
satellit_

tested with dd usb and liveinst HD install

[1] 
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/17.RC4/Spins/x86_64/Fedora-17-x86_64-Live-SoaS.iso

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