[Sugar-devel] Fwd: Re: Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are strange

2012-01-19 Thread Thomas C Gilliard

held for moderator approval so forewarded again

 Original Message 
Subject: 	Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are 
strange

Date:   Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:33:19 -0800
From:   Thomas C Gilliard 
To: Eduardo H. Silva 





On 01/19/2012 04:19 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote:

2012/1/20 Thomas C Gilliard:

On 01/19/2012 04:01 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote:

James, but the thing is, everything needs rewriting, not just some
words or phrases.

Thomas, what you just explained isn't what is in the wiki.

  Also, in another page linked from the main Sugar Creation Kit page:

"To clear Sugar of these keys and the name and color entries, enter
the command rm ~ rf /.sugar"

This of course deletes the journal as well.

It also says on the next line:

To reset only the ssh keys, in order to keep the Journal and installed .xo
Activities, use rm ~/.sugar/default/owner.key* in the Sugar Terminal, and
then shutdown sugar su shutdown -h now. This leaves the Journal entries and
removes only the previous Learner's identity key files.

Then why include the first instruction? It deletes the Journal.

Eduardo

It also prepares sugar (Soas) to a virgin state ready for the next user:

*To clear Sugar of these keys and the name and color entries*, enter the 
command "(|rm ~ rf /.sugar|)" in the Terminal activity. Then shutdown 
sugar "(|su shutdown -h now| )" . This will clear all Learner 
information and let you start with a fresh install. Skipping this will 
result in collisions in the Neighborhood view of the Jabber network. 
Verify the presence of the *.sugar* directory by entering"(|ls -a| )"in 
Terminal.


http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Introduction_to_Sugar_Interface#How_To_clear_Sugar_of_these_keys_and_the_name_and_color_entries

If this is too advanced, for the tutorial, It can be removed.

The network collisions problem is real. some people use dd to copy a usb 
and will have many problems if multiple identical copies are used.


Tom Gilliard
satellit_

I have changed the colored bar instructions on all web pages and added a
Summary section from the previous e-mail to the tutorial drag-drop.
Cordially;

Tom Gilliard
satellit_

I appreciate all feedback so that the wiki works better. Thanks

Eduardo


2012/1/19 Thomas C Gilliard:

On 01/19/2012 02:25 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote:

Take one example:

"Exporting/Importing files from the sugar-journal with Drag-Drop with
a 2nd USB-stick".

And it even doesn't show how to do that.

Eduardo:

I do not understand why you think this.

A brief synopsis of the process:
1)You need a 2nd USB-stick inserted in a USB slot before you begin.
2)Click on the journal icon under the XO Avitar in f3 (Home) screen.
3)move the mouse cursor to the center of the screen.
4)In the left bottom of the sugar screen will be 2 USB icons
  - Journal
  - 2nd USB
5)click on the file in the journal listing that pops up when you click on
the icon in the left bottom corner; and hold down the mouse as you drag the
entry to the 2nd USB Icon next to it on the bottom left corner.
6) release the mouse button when you are over the 2nd USB Icon and a + will
appear.

This is a "Drag-Drop" export to the 2nd USB-stick

Import to Sugar Journal is done just the opposite way:
1) click on a picture or .xo file on the 2nd USB that pops up when you click
on the icon in the left bottom corner.
2) drag it with the mouse to the journal icon in the bottom left corner. A +
will appear as it is added to the journal.

When you go to (f3) Home  Screen and click on the journal the new item will
be in the journal.
Plus if it was an activity.xo file It will be installed.

(The drag-drop process in sugar does a hidden conversion of the journal
files to ones that will work on a USB. It seems to be the only way to do an
import/export in Sugar.)

Cordially

Tom Gilliard
satellit_

Eduardo

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[Sugar-devel] Fwd: Re: Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are strange-first message with held do to commands

2012-01-19 Thread Thomas C Gilliard



 Original Message 
Subject: 	Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are 
strange

Date:   Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:12:17 -0800
From:   Thomas C Gilliard 
To: Eduardo H. Silva 





On 01/19/2012 04:01 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote:

James, but the thing is, everything needs rewriting, not just some
words or phrases.

Thomas, what you just explained isn't what is in the wiki.

  Also, in another page linked from the main Sugar Creation Kit page:

"To clear Sugar of these keys and the name and color entries, enter
the command rm ~ rf /.sugar"

This of course deletes the journal as well.


It also says on the next line:

   * *To reset only the ssh keys*, in order to keep the Journal and
 installed .xo Activities, use |"(rm ~/.sugar/default/owner.key*)"|
 in the Sugar Terminal, and then shutdown sugar
 |"(su shutdown -h now|)". This leaves the Journal entries and
 removes only the previous Learner's identity key files.*
 *


I have changed the colored bar instructions on all web pages and added a 
Summary section from the previous e-mail to the tutorial drag-drop.


Cordially;

Tom Gilliard
satellit_

I appreciate all feedback so that the wiki works better. Thanks

Eduardo


2012/1/19 Thomas C Gilliard:

On 01/19/2012 02:25 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote:

Take one example:

"Exporting/Importing files from the sugar-journal with Drag-Drop with
a 2nd USB-stick".

And it even doesn't show how to do that.


Eduardo:

I do not understand why you think this.

A brief synopsis of the process:
1)You need a 2nd USB-stick inserted in a USB slot before you begin.
2)Click on the journal icon under the XO Avitar in f3 (Home) screen.
3)move the mouse cursor to the center of the screen.
4)In the left bottom of the sugar screen will be 2 USB icons
  - Journal
  - 2nd USB
5)click on the file in the journal listing that pops up when you click on
the icon in the left bottom corner; and hold down the mouse as you drag the
entry to the 2nd USB Icon next to it on the bottom left corner.
6) release the mouse button when you are over the 2nd USB Icon and a + will
appear.

This is a "Drag-Drop" export to the 2nd USB-stick

Import to Sugar Journal is done just the opposite way:
1) click on a picture or .xo file on the 2nd USB that pops up when you click
on the icon in the left bottom corner.
2) drag it with the mouse to the journal icon in the bottom left corner. A +
will appear as it is added to the journal.

When you go to (f3) Home  Screen and click on the journal the new item will
be in the journal.
Plus if it was an activity.xo file It will be installed.

(The drag-drop process in sugar does a hidden conversion of the journal
files to ones that will work on a USB. It seems to be the only way to do an
import/export in Sugar.)

Cordially

Tom Gilliard
satellit_


Eduardo

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