Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel] Fwd: Testing Summary - Wellington, 9 Oct 2010
- Discussion on using luggage tags so that we can identify which computer belongs to who from the outside A magic marker works fine. (Or Sharpie or whatever they are called in your location.) You want the permanent kind. Non-permanent ink may get smudged off. If you don't want to mess up the exterior of your XO, open up the battery compartment and write your name/initials/whatever in there. You can also use the labeling tapes. They probably won't stick well to the textured surface, but there are smooth surfaces inside the battery compartment or on the inside after you open the lid. -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel] Fwd: Testing Summary - Wellington, 9 Oct 2010
On 10 October 2010 19:49, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: - Discussion on using luggage tags so that we can identify which computer belongs to who from the outside A magic marker works fine. (Or Sharpie or whatever they are called in your location.) No magic markers thanks. The XOs are loaned from olpc. They are assigned to different volunteers and get passed amongst the volunteers depending on who is doing what. Wellington - we have just bought a label maker so we can make labels and post them to you. Tabitha ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Testing Summary - Wellington, 9 Oct 2010
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Tim McNamara paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz wrote: Forwarding to Sugar-devel.. -- Forwarded message -- From: Tim McNamara mcnamara@gmail.com Date: Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 4:43 PM Subject: Testing Summary - Wellington, 9 Oct 2010 To: OLPC NZ olpc...@lists.laptop.org [snip] ## sliderule-21 Kristina = - failed to load: log exerpt :- http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27062/sliderule-22.xo should fix the problem. [snip] Testing Manual There are two types of tests that people generally do when we are supporting OLPC and Sugar Labs. - general mucking about: - we want to learn if there are any behviours that seem normal to the software developers that doen't seem normal to new users, especially kids. Be great to get more insight into this... kids tend to me more adaptable than developers (and adults in general). - we want to hold activites to a consistent standard. This means that buttons do what they say they do. - regression testing: - testing that a fix to bug actually fixes the problem it says it does - testing that a fix doesn't cause something else to reoccur ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Testing Summary - Wellington, 9 Oct 2010
Tim and Alastair, Thanks for your helpful feedback re: FileMix. My comments, in no particular order: 1) A set of default soundfiles is included, and I believe the on-screen text indicates that. 2) The name FileMix *is* a verb - or at least can be thought of that way (I do). Mix is here a live, real-time activity; indeed no output file mix is created. I realize the title is somewhat open; it is meant to suggest that you can record your own files and then live mix them. I'd considered mix, but thought that term *too* wide open. 3) Yes, there is an issue with MIDI controllers. I'm assuming that if you don't know what that means, you don't have one, and should try the two options that don't require them. MIDI can get complicated, and certainly requires teacher input. I've made a recommendation re: an appropriate, inexpensive MIDI controller, but currently it's hidden at the beginning of the filemix.py file. It should be made visible in a .txt file included in the XO bundle; I'll eventually add one - though I don't know how much that will help. (Even *more* text.) This will happen after I get #4 solved (next item). 4) I'm currently working on incorporating student-generated soundfiles into the activity, as you may have noted from mail on this listserv. I'm trying to get ObjectChooser to import sound objects from the Journal into FileMix. I'm still struggling with this, but the end result will eliminate the renaming issue. The Record activity is the obvious vehicle for soundfile-making. In the last analysis, the XO-1.5 (Sugar 0.84.x) is the *only* version of Record currently creating useable recordings. (I've filed tickets about this - even SoaS 0.84 has problems, and the XO-1 Record doesn't produce a file type [Ogg Speex] that FileMix can use.) So - development here is in process. My basic problem is that I can't seem to get the (Journal's) sound object filename communicated to Csound. (I'm working with Csounders on this issue.) 5) Thanks for your other suggestions as well. I wish I had the technical expertise to implement some of them. As far as illegal soundfile types and missing/maladjusted MIDI controllers are concerned, all I can say is that things don't work (i.e., no sound) in such cases (*some* helpful clues as to errors appear in the Log file). At least (to my knowledge) there are no system failures. Art Hunkins - Original Message - From: Tim McNamara To: Sugar Developers Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 12:16 AM Subject: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Testing Summary - Wellington, 9 Oct 2010 Forwarding to Sugar-devel.. ## filemix-2 Tim = - perhaps rename activity to mix, in keeping with Sugar HIG (Activities as verbs) - neat icon - no pulsing icon on load :( - immediate thoughts: super cool concept - perhaps use the user's colours, rather than olive green for the buttons? - had no files to test with - *lots* of text - I would like to tuck lots of this away in future versions - You are urged to make your own - perhaps reference a sound recording activity? - midi device required - how do I know if I have one? - shouldn't the activity be able to let me know? - suggestions for future versions: - make files selectable, renaming to soundin.1, ... ,soundin.4 is a lot of work - run through a diagnostics dialogue with sample files: - can you hear this? MIDI, MP3, OGG, WAV, ... Alastair = - no audio to test with ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Fwd: Testing Summary - Wellington, 9 Oct 2010
Forwarding to Sugar-devel.. -- Forwarded message -- From: Tim McNamara mcnamara@gmail.com Date: Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 4:43 PM Subject: Testing Summary - Wellington, 9 Oct 2010 To: OLPC NZ olpc...@lists.laptop.org Really nice day today! Attendees: - Tim, Alastair, Kristina, Grant Non-testing activities: - Introduced OLPC/Sugar to a teacher and a few kids - Introduced Wtgn folk to the test request page, seemed to be support for it - Discussion on using luggage tags so that we can identify which computer belongs to who from the outside - Bare beginnings of testing manual (at bottom of message) ## spirolaterals-2 Tim = - perhaps rename activity to spin, in keeping with Sugar HIG (Activities as verbs) - the background of icon while loading seems to pulse while loading - immediate thought: seems like a matching game, how do I make my turtle move? - had to click around on a few things before anything responded Here is a recording of things that I discovered.. - cyan gives me a new puzzle - hints can appear = thought: oh, the *are* significant - green means go - black means refresh (?) - ah! the turtle does its own looping! (orignally thought I needed to tell the turtle some how to loop a few times - the turtle only turns right? Alastair = - confused at first about the purpose of each of the buttons - clicking on the wizard brings up hints ## filemix-2 Tim = - perhaps rename activity to mix, in keeping with Sugar HIG (Activities as verbs) - neat icon - no pulsing icon on load :( - immediate thoughts: super cool concept - perhaps use the user's colours, rather than olive green for the buttons? - had no files to test with - *lots* of text - I would like to tuck lots of this away in future versions - You are urged to make your own - perhaps reference a sound recording activity? - midi device required - how do I know if I have one? - shouldn't the activity be able to let me know? - suggestions for future versions: - make files selectable, renaming to soundin.1, ... ,soundin.4 is a lot of work - run through a diagnostics dialogue with sample files: - can you hear this? MIDI, MP3, OGG, WAV, ... Alastair = - no audio to test with ## juegos_flash-2 - coloured icon - flash would wouldn't render the chess board at the start - seems to be a compilation of non-free flash games from various sites - gnash gave me English menus, everything else in Spanish - Penales - All rights reserved Flashfooty.com FTW - games failed to load after 20 secs - Penales2 - Games1.com Ad ?? - in English - selecting a team didn't seem to do anything - EncontrarObjectos - failed to load in 20 secs on XO-1.5 - Bar - Welcome to our pre-party cocktail mixing game for cocktail connoisseurs... or not as the case may be! - omg, it's actually a game about alcohol consumption - kinda cute, in it's own way. Provides instructions along the way, which is what I had expected from spirolaterals - Cocinarpizza - seemed unresponsive to the XO's mousepad - Ajedrez - argh, flashing chess game again - Futbal - ran very slowly - when missing a goal, the text is undefined - Tesoro - loaded well, a little slow on XO-1.5 - teacher seemed to be silent - Pes2002 - heavily screen flickering (gave up after 20sec) - Bolos - failed to load once Play was clicked - QueHariasConTuEx - from whackyourex.com - game does what it says ## F14/SoaS 4 Tim = - x86_84 failed to loaded - i386 takes a *long* time to load from the .iso - icon is the native Fedora icon until the Home view loads - have been asked to enter a new keyring password (obsessively # Frame - selecting 'My Settings' from frame resulted in the computer crashing # My settings - horizontal scrolling is annoying Language - languages are in English - took a while to load - restart dialogue: does it need to say Warning? Software update - appears to check things properly, but doesn't allow me to actually conduct an upgrade. The screen just goes blank. # changed to german - long time to load, screen went blank for about 20s a few times and flicked between a thinking icon, boot-up text, keyring password dialogue with assorted random character goodness - possibly disable the language option on the SoaS iso - restarted the VM, things worked find Kristina = - hard to get .iso file playing nicely on the Macbook. ## visualmatch-36 Alastair = - needs a bigger indicator that the game is finished Kristina = - seems to work really well Grant = - couldn't find any bugs - it's hard on hard! ## sliderule-21 Kristina = - failed to load: log exerpt :- /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25: DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead import sha 1286581194.867893 WARNING root: No
