Re: [Sugar-devel] GSM/CDMA Modems support (part II)

2009-11-26 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 14:47, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
 On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 09:36 -0500, Martin Abente wrote:
 Would a patch that extends the allowed connection types be accepted in the
 0.84 branch (that will be shipped with F11) ?

 Depends on the patch, but in general one requirement I've been putting
 on patches for OLPCs 0.84 fork is that the patches must already be in
 sugar master. So this should be your first port of call...

I'll be happy to work with Martin (and whoever else) on this. From
looking at http://trac.paraguayeduca.org/browser/nmbridge , Paraguay
Educa has already the required skills to do a great work there.

Regards,

Tomeu

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[Sugar-devel] GSM/CDMA Modems support (part II)

2009-11-25 Thread Martin Abente
Hello again everyone!

As I mentioned in my last email to de...@lists.laptop.org, there is a real
need for a GSM/CDMA usb modem support in our region since thats the most
common/available service in rural locations.

In my last email I proposed to the OLPC guys to include the option module
to their builds, _but_ theres another problem concerning sugar connections
management. Currently it is not allowed to manage non-802.11 connections. I
checked the code at jarabe/model/network.py and I think it needs the proper
extensions/changes to at least be able to store other connections types.
Would a patch that extends the allowed connection types be accepted in the
0.84 branch (that will be shipped with F11) ?

I say at least because this would allow other applications that interact
with NM (ie via Dbus) to configure/set this device letting us postpone the
need to extend the Sugar UI itself. I already wrote a prototype app for
this that is actually working on the Gnome environment [1].

What do you guys think?

Saludos,
Martin Abente (tch)

[1] http://trac.paraguayeduca.org/browser/nmbridge
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSM/CDMA Modems support (part II)

2009-11-25 Thread Daniel Drake
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 09:36 -0500, Martin Abente wrote:
 Would a patch that extends the allowed connection types be accepted in the
 0.84 branch (that will be shipped with F11) ?

Depends on the patch, but in general one requirement I've been putting
on patches for OLPCs 0.84 fork is that the patches must already be in
sugar master. So this should be your first port of call...

Daniel


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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSM/CDMA Modems support (part II)

2009-11-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Martin Abente
mabe...@paraguayeduca.org wrote:
 As I mentioned in my last email to de...@lists.laptop.org, there is a real
 need for a GSM/CDMA usb modem support in our region since thats the most
 common/available service in rural locations.

Hola Martin,

question: are you planning on giving a GSM/CDMA card to each child
with an XO? Or to configure the local XS to have a GSM/CDMA connection
that provides the upstream connection which is then shared by all XO
users that connect to the XS?

If you want to set things up on the XS, we can probably come up with
scripts that get it online as soon as you plug the modem into the XS.
(So: unplug to disconnect).

cheers,



m
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSM/CDMA Modems support (part II)

2009-11-25 Thread Martin Abente
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:13:41 +0100, Martin Langhoff
martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Martin Abente
 mabe...@paraguayeduca.org wrote:
 As I mentioned in my last email to de...@lists.laptop.org, there is a
 real
 need for a GSM/CDMA usb modem support in our region since thats the most
 common/available service in rural locations.
 
 Hola Martin,
 
 question: are you planning on giving a GSM/CDMA card to each child
 with an XO?

  No, but teachers and parents has been asking us about this in every
meeting we attended so far
  since they only got Internet access at schools.

 Or to configure the local XS to have a GSM/CDMA connection
 that provides the upstream connection which is then shared by all XO
 users that connect to the XS?
 
 If you want to set things up on the XS, we can probably come up with
 scripts that get it online as soon as you plug the modem into the XS.
 (So: unplug to disconnect).
 

  Thats not our case, all our school servers are working with WiMax
connections, which it's infrastructure
  requirements are fine for a school.

  But in countries like Paraguay with a high rate of cellphone usage and
coverage (which is an interesting phenomena, 
  considering our country reality), gsm/cdma modems are by far the most
common and acquirable service.


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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSM/CDMA Modems support (part II)

2009-11-25 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Hi



On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Martin Abente
mabe...@paraguayeduca.org wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:13:41 +0100, Martin Langhoff
 martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Martin Abente
 mabe...@paraguayeduca.org wrote:
 As I mentioned in my last email to de...@lists.laptop.org, there is a
 real
 need for a GSM/CDMA usb modem support in our region since thats the most
 common/available service in rural locations.

 Hola Martin,

 question: are you planning on giving a GSM/CDMA card to each child
 with an XO?

  No, but teachers and parents has been asking us about this in every
 meeting we attended so far
  since they only got Internet access at schools.

 Or to configure the local XS to have a GSM/CDMA connection
 that provides the upstream connection which is then shared by all XO
 users that connect to the XS?

 If you want to set things up on the XS, we can probably come up with
 scripts that get it online as soon as you plug the modem into the XS.
 (So: unplug to disconnect).


  Thats not our case, all our school servers are working with WiMax
 connections, which it's infrastructure
  requirements are fine for a school.

  But in countries like Paraguay with a high rate of cellphone usage and
 coverage (which is an interesting phenomena,
  considering our country reality), gsm/cdma modems are by far the most
 common and acquirable service.

This is also truth for Colombia, satellite internet is very expensive
although in some places is offered by the government,  and there are
GSM/CDMA modems with a broad use and cheaper fares and wider coverage,
although with some problems of wideness of the communication band and
re-use of the channel.








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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSM/CDMA Modems support (part II)

2009-11-25 Thread Tim McNamara
2009/11/26 Martin Abente mabe...@paraguayeduca.org

 Hello again everyone!

 As I mentioned in my last email to de...@lists.laptop.org, there is a real
 need for a GSM/CDMA usb modem support in our region since thats the most
 common/available service in rural locations.


Have you looked at the project RapidSMS, developed with support from Unicef?
[1] RapidSMS is designed to run on any standard computer paired with a
standard GPRS modem or certain models of cell phones.[2]

I have been lurking on their lists for a while, with my interest in the
Sahana Disaster Management System[3], but have gathered that at its core is
a python library, pyGSM [4]. I don't know if there is a PyGTK front end.

Best of luck!

@timClicks

[1] http://rapidsms.org/
[2] http://www.rapidsms.org/getting-started/tech-basics/
[3] http://sahana.lk/
[4] http://www.rapidsms.org/code/libraries/
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