Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2024 : questions about wikipedia activity

2024-03-28 Thread Walter Bender 
My mistake. I will update the project description.

On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 4:18 PM James Cameron  wrote:

> The GSoC/Ideas-2024.md "Refactor the Wikipedia Activity to generate
> plain-language summaries"
>
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/blob/master/Ideas-2024.md#refactor-the-wikipedia-activity-to-generate-plain-language-summaries
>
> says "the Wikipedia activity is designed to help teachers extract
> content from the Wikipedia in order to create lesson plans".
>
> Actually, that feature set is implemented by the InfoSlicer activity.
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/infoslicer
>
> The Wikipedia activity is an offline viewer for Wikipedia pages.
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/wikipedia-activity
>
> It does not make sense to use the Wikipedia activity when online,
> instead use the Browse activity, which is the web browser.
>
> The workflow for teachers to use the Wikipedia activity is to run the
> extraction process across the most popular articles, filter to remove
> sensitive articles, and then generate a (very large) Sugar activity
> bundle, which the students in a class can install.  It isn't used for
> lesson plans, but as a general offline cache, especially for students
> that have no internet while taking their class laptop home.  A very
> special use case.
>
> If the aim of the GSoC idea is to use AI to craft lesson plans from
> Wikipedia content, then I suggest using the Browse activity instead.
>
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 07:16:16PM +0100, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:
> > The Wikipedia activity isn't part of the activities that comes with
> Sugar, so
> > you'll have to
> > clone and run the activity yourself.
> >
> > Our [1]contributing doc contains some helpful info.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Ibiam Chihurumnaya
> > [2]ibiamchihurumn...@gmail.com
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 7:04 PM Archit Agrawal <[3]
> architagrawal...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Walter,
> > I set up the sugar env on VirtualBox, fedora OS. But I don't see
> Wikipedia
> > activity in activity list.
> >
> >
> > [4]Mailtrack  Sender notified by  27/03/24, 10:59:55
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> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 4:00 PM Walter Bender <[6]
> walter.ben...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 6:41 PM Ruxue Jin <[7]
> ruxueji...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am interested in wikipedia activities: [8]Refactor the
> Wikipedia
> > Activity to generate plain-language summaries
> >
> > But I did not see this activity in the web application.
> >
> > By web application, I assume you mean Sugarizer. The Wikipedia
> App is a
> > Python app written for the Sugar Desktop.
> >
> > In this activity repo: [9]sugarlabs/wikipedia-activity (
> github.com)
> > , the last commit is 2015 and there are many websites
> returning 404
> > error.
> >
> > I don't imagine it has been updated in a long time. That is part
> of
> > what motivates this project.
> >
> > I wonder if there is an instruction on how to set up the
> > environment and check the code.
> >
> > Please follow the instructions on how to set up the Sugar env.
> >
> > Thank you!
> > Ruxue
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> >
> > [1]
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/src/contributing.md#contributing
> > [2] mailto:ibiamchihurumn...@gmail.com
> > [3] mailto:architagrawal...@gmail.com
> > [4]
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> > [5]
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> > [6] mailto:walter.ben...@gmail.com
> > [7] mailto:ruxueji...@gmail.com
> > [8]
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/blob/master/Ideas-2024.md#Refactor-the-Wikipedia-Activity-to-generate-plain-language-summaries
> > [9] https://github.com/sugarlabs/wikipedia-activity
> > [10] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [11] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [12] https://www.sugarlabs.org/
> > [13] http://www.sugarlabs.org/
> > [14] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [15]

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2024 : questions about wikipedia activity

2024-03-28 Thread James Cameron 
The GSoC/Ideas-2024.md "Refactor the Wikipedia Activity to generate
plain-language summaries"
https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/blob/master/Ideas-2024.md#refactor-the-wikipedia-activity-to-generate-plain-language-summaries

says "the Wikipedia activity is designed to help teachers extract
content from the Wikipedia in order to create lesson plans".

Actually, that feature set is implemented by the InfoSlicer activity.
https://github.com/sugarlabs/infoslicer

The Wikipedia activity is an offline viewer for Wikipedia pages.
https://github.com/sugarlabs/wikipedia-activity

It does not make sense to use the Wikipedia activity when online,
instead use the Browse activity, which is the web browser.

The workflow for teachers to use the Wikipedia activity is to run the
extraction process across the most popular articles, filter to remove
sensitive articles, and then generate a (very large) Sugar activity
bundle, which the students in a class can install.  It isn't used for
lesson plans, but as a general offline cache, especially for students
that have no internet while taking their class laptop home.  A very
special use case.

If the aim of the GSoC idea is to use AI to craft lesson plans from
Wikipedia content, then I suggest using the Browse activity instead.

On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 07:16:16PM +0100, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:
> The Wikipedia activity isn't part of the activities that comes with Sugar, so
> you'll have to
> clone and run the activity yourself.
> 
> Our [1]contributing doc contains some helpful info.
> 
> --
> 
> Ibiam Chihurumnaya
> [2]ibiamchihurumn...@gmail.com
> 
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 7:04 PM Archit Agrawal <[3]architagrawal...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Walter,
> I set up the sugar env on VirtualBox, fedora OS. But I don't see Wikipedia
> activity in activity list.
> 
>
> [4]Mailtrack  Sender notified by  27/03/24, 10:59:55
>   [5]Mailtrack
> 
> *
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 4:00 PM Walter Bender <[6]walter.ben...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 6:41 PM Ruxue Jin <[7]ruxueji...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> I am interested in wikipedia activities: [8]Refactor the Wikipedia
> Activity to generate plain-language summaries
> 
> But I did not see this activity in the web application. 
> 
> By web application, I assume you mean Sugarizer. The Wikipedia App is 
> a
> Python app written for the Sugar Desktop.
> 
> In this activity repo: [9]sugarlabs/wikipedia-activity 
> (github.com)
> , the last commit is 2015 and there are many websites returning 
> 404
> error. 
> 
> I don't imagine it has been updated in a long time. That is part of
> what motivates this project.
> 
> I wonder if there is an instruction on how to set up the
> environment and check the code. 
> 
> Please follow the instructions on how to set up the Sugar env.
> 
> Thank you!
> Ruxue
> ___
> Sugar-devel mailing list
> [10]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> [11]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> 
> --
> Walter Bender
> Sugar Labs
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> 
> References:
> 
> [1] 
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/src/contributing.md#contributing
> [2] mailto:ibiamchihurumn...@gmail.com
> [3] mailto:architagrawal...@gmail.com
> [4] 
> https://mailtrack.io/?utm_source=gmail_medium=signature_campaign=signaturevirality11;
> [5] 
> https://mailtrack.io/?utm_source=gmail_medium=signature_campaign=signaturevirality11;
> [6] mailto:walter.ben...@gmail.com
> [7] mailto:ruxueji...@gmail.com
> [8] 
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/blob/master/Ideas-2024.md#Refactor-the-Wikipedia-Activity-to-generate-plain-language-summaries
> [9] https://github.com/sugarlabs/wikipedia-activity
> [10] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> [11] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [12] https://www.sugarlabs.org/
> [13] http://www.sugarlabs.org/
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> [15] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2024 : questions about wikipedia activity

2024-03-27 Thread Chihurumnaya Ibiam 
The Wikipedia activity isn't part of the activities that comes with Sugar,
so you'll have to
clone and run the activity yourself.

Our contributing

doc contains some helpful info.

-- 

Ibiam Chihurumnaya
ibiamchihurumn...@gmail.com




On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 7:04 PM Archit Agrawal 
wrote:

> Hi Walter,
> I set up the sugar env on VirtualBox, fedora OS. But I don't see Wikipedia
> activity in activity list.
>
>
>
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>  27/03/24,
> 10:59:55
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 4:00 PM Walter Bender 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 6:41 PM Ruxue Jin  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am interested in wikipedia activities: Refactor the Wikipedia
>>> Activity to generate plain-language summaries
>>> 
>>>
>>> But I did not see this activity in the web application.
>>>
>>
>> By web application, I assume you mean Sugarizer. The Wikipedia App is a
>> Python app written for the Sugar Desktop.
>>
>>>
>>> In this activity repo: sugarlabs/wikipedia-activity (github.com)
>>> , the last commit is
>>> 2015 and there are many websites returning 404 error.
>>>
>>
>> I don't imagine it has been updated in a long time. That is part of what
>> motivates this project.
>>
>>>
>>> I wonder if there is an instruction on how to set up the environment and
>>> check the code.
>>>
>>
>> Please follow the instructions on how to set up the Sugar env.
>>
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>> Ruxue
>>> ___
>>> Sugar-devel mailing list
>>> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Walter Bender
>> Sugar Labs
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2024 : questions about wikipedia activity

2024-03-27 Thread Archit Agrawal 
Hi Walter,
I set up the sugar env on VirtualBox, fedora OS. But I don't see Wikipedia
activity in activity list.



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On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 4:00 PM Walter Bender 
wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 6:41 PM Ruxue Jin  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am interested in wikipedia activities: Refactor the Wikipedia Activity
>> to generate plain-language summaries
>> 
>>
>> But I did not see this activity in the web application.
>>
>
> By web application, I assume you mean Sugarizer. The Wikipedia App is a
> Python app written for the Sugar Desktop.
>
>>
>> In this activity repo: sugarlabs/wikipedia-activity (github.com)
>> , the last commit is
>> 2015 and there are many websites returning 404 error.
>>
>
> I don't imagine it has been updated in a long time. That is part of what
> motivates this project.
>
>>
>> I wonder if there is an instruction on how to set up the environment and
>> check the code.
>>
>
> Please follow the instructions on how to set up the Sugar env.
>
>>
>> Thank you!
>> Ruxue
>> ___
>> Sugar-devel mailing list
>> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>>
>
>
> --
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2024 : questions about wikipedia activity

2024-03-26 Thread Walter Bender 
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 6:41 PM Ruxue Jin  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am interested in wikipedia activities: Refactor the Wikipedia Activity
> to generate plain-language summaries
> 
>
> But I did not see this activity in the web application.
>

By web application, I assume you mean Sugarizer. The Wikipedia App is a
Python app written for the Sugar Desktop.

>
> In this activity repo: sugarlabs/wikipedia-activity (github.com)
> , the last commit is
> 2015 and there are many websites returning 404 error.
>

I don't imagine it has been updated in a long time. That is part of what
motivates this project.

>
> I wonder if there is an instruction on how to set up the environment and
> check the code.
>

Please follow the instructions on how to set up the Sugar env.

>
> Thank you!
> Ruxue
> ___
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> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>


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[Sugar-devel] GSoC 2024 : questions about wikipedia activity

2024-03-26 Thread Ruxue Jin 
Hello,

I am interested in wikipedia activities: Refactor the Wikipedia Activity to
generate plain-language summaries


But I did not see this activity in the web application.

In this activity repo: sugarlabs/wikipedia-activity (github.com)
, the last commit is 2015
and there are many websites returning 404 error.

I wonder if there is an instruction on how to set up the environment and
check the code.

Thank you!
Ruxue
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