Re: [Sugar-devel] Memorize Game sharing a Created game
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 13:24 +1000, David Leeming wrote: I would like to understand the correct procedure to share and invite a Memorize game that has been created on an XO. Whenever we try this it is very difficult to make it work. Using XO-1.0 / 8.2.1 and Memorize-34 We tested the memorize that comes with 8.2.1 and had no trouble. We shared one of the pre-defined games. We made a word/word game and shared that and we made a picture/word game and shared that. We didn't see any problems. 2. Try to invite or share with others. On the XOs that have joined, the game area remains blank (black) and nothing seems to load further We erased the Memorize supplied with 8.2.1 and installed Memorize 34 and find the same issue you report. Unfortunately we didn't make a note of the version supplied with 8.2.1, so I can't tell you which one did work for us. There are some exceptions in the log (why aren't these presented to the user??) and I've raised http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2115 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Memorize Game sharing a Created game
On Fri, July 23, 2010 10:37 am, David Leeming wrote: I can definitely say that we have this issue! It is something that I have done with intermittent success before but in our current workshop we simply cannot make it work. Walter has updated the ticket http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2115 saying that Memorize 34 does not work on build 8.2.1 because that build is too old. You'll have to install an older version of Memorize. The version of Memorize shipped with build 8.2.1 works, but I don't know what version that is. We did everything we could think of, restarting, etc etc. Unfortunately, Memorize encountered an unexpected exception but didn't tell you. Can you please give me the step by step method you used to (a) create and share a game and (b) to load the attached game and then share it, using a server or simple mesh (if it makes any difference) then we will attempt to reproduce. I don't have an XO with me so I can't install 8.2.1 and see which version it ships with, but from memory we: Flashed two XO-1.0 with build 8.2.1. Started Memorize on one XO Loaded a game Set sharing to Neighbourhood Found the Memorize in the Neighbourhood on the other XO Joined Memorize with right-click We then installed Memorize 34 and sharing no longer worked. Also, can you let me know if the saved game should be loadable from the Journal or has to be loaded from a started game. Sorry, I don't know. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Memorize Game sharing a Created game
On 23 Jul 2010, at 00:18, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote: On Fri, July 23, 2010 10:37 am, David Leeming wrote: I can definitely say that we have this issue! It is something that I have done with intermittent success before but in our current workshop we simply cannot make it work. Walter has updated the ticket http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2115 saying that Memorize 34 does not work on build 8.2.1 because that build is too old. You'll have to install an older version of Memorize. The version of Memorize shipped with build 8.2.1 works, but I don't know what version that is. FWIW Memorize-33 seemed to share and allow two XOs to play the same game. It did get confused after a few rounds and then neither could pick a card, however I was testing one v33 in Sugar 0.82, and the other v34 in Sugar 8.4.16. This was tested over a Mesh connection. FWIW, the OLPC micro format wiki page is also listing v34 as 8.2.1 supported, so if it is confirmed it does have some new dependency, that page needs correcting as well as ASLO. We did everything we could think of, restarting, etc etc. Did you grab a copy of the Memorize log so we can try and fix/see the error? That would really speed up the chances of a fix/resolution. FWIW: older release versions of Memorize are all available on activities.sugarlabs.org, just search for memorize and then click on the 'show all versions' link near the bottom of the page (usually ASLO only shows the most recent activity release for the release of Sugar you are using, but this one may have been tagged incorrectly, or has some regression the maintainer didn't expect). Regards, --Gary Unfortunately, Memorize encountered an unexpected exception but didn't tell you. Can you please give me the step by step method you used to (a) create and share a game and (b) to load the attached game and then share it, using a server or simple mesh (if it makes any difference) then we will attempt to reproduce. I don't have an XO with me so I can't install 8.2.1 and see which version it ships with, but from memory we: Flashed two XO-1.0 with build 8.2.1. Started Memorize on one XO Loaded a game Set sharing to Neighbourhood Found the Memorize in the Neighbourhood on the other XO Joined Memorize with right-click We then installed Memorize 34 and sharing no longer worked. Also, can you let me know if the saved game should be loadable from the Journal or has to be loaded from a started game. Sorry, I don't know. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Memorize Game sharing a Created game
Thanks, it is version 33 that was shipped, if you read the wiki carefully. We will try downgrading. This brings up a related matter, when using a slow Internet connection (possibly latency is an issue too) the download frequently fails before it is complete, and there is no way of knowing precisely unless it is a grossly reduced download,. Without testing. I am struggling to download Memorize 33 from the OLPC wiki, at my present location in central PNG, using mobile broadband. But we'll revert back with our findings. David Leeming -Original Message- From: Tom Parker [mailto:t...@carrott.org] Sent: Friday, 23 July 2010 9:19 a.m. To: David Leeming Cc: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: RE: [Sugar-devel] Memorize Game sharing a Created game On Fri, July 23, 2010 10:37 am, David Leeming wrote: I can definitely say that we have this issue! It is something that I have done with intermittent success before but in our current workshop we simply cannot make it work. Walter has updated the ticket http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2115 saying that Memorize 34 does not work on build 8.2.1 because that build is too old. You'll have to install an older version of Memorize. The version of Memorize shipped with build 8.2.1 works, but I don't know what version that is. We did everything we could think of, restarting, etc etc. Unfortunately, Memorize encountered an unexpected exception but didn't tell you. Can you please give me the step by step method you used to (a) create and share a game and (b) to load the attached game and then share it, using a server or simple mesh (if it makes any difference) then we will attempt to reproduce. I don't have an XO with me so I can't install 8.2.1 and see which version it ships with, but from memory we: Flashed two XO-1.0 with build 8.2.1. Started Memorize on one XO Loaded a game Set sharing to Neighbourhood Found the Memorize in the Neighbourhood on the other XO Joined Memorize with right-click We then installed Memorize 34 and sharing no longer worked. Also, can you let me know if the saved game should be loadable from the Journal or has to be loaded from a started game. Sorry, I don't know. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Memorize Game sharing a Created game
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:42:09AM +1000, David Leeming wrote: Thanks, it is version 33 that was shipped, if you read the wiki carefully. We will try downgrading. This brings up a related matter, when using a slow Internet connection (possibly latency is an issue too) the download frequently fails before it is complete, and there is no way of knowing precisely unless it is a grossly reduced download,. Without testing. I am struggling to download Memorize 33 from the OLPC wiki, at my present location in central PNG, using mobile broadband. But we'll revert back with our findings. David Leeming In such a situation, I would use 'command line mode'. And do this: wget -c url-of-memorize-33.xo this would allow you to continue an incomplete/failed download and try again until it got it. then you can use: sugar-install-bundle memorize-33.xo or unzip memorize-33.xo and then 'mv' the old one to a temp location and 'mv' the new one into /home/olpc/Activities. But that is just me. I dont know if that is something you would be comfortable doing. -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux ==.| http://kevix.myopenid.com..| | : :' : The Universal OS| mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/.| | `. `' http://www.debian.org/.| http://counter.li.org [#238656]| |___`-Unless I ask to be CCd,.assume I am subscribed._| ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Memorize Game sharing a Created game
On Fri, July 23, 2010 1:42 pm, David Leeming wrote: Thanks, it is version 33 that was shipped, if you read the wiki carefully. Are you sure? Memorize 33 was released July 14, 2009 according to http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addons/versions/4063 Build 8.2.1 was released May 13, 2009 according to http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/custom/g1g1/gg-802-1/ and http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/8.2.1 Also, the ticket has been updated by garycmartin saying 33 doesn't work on sugar 0.82 http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2115 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Memorize Game sharing a Created game
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:42:09AM +1000, David Leeming wrote: Thanks, it is version 33 that was shipped, if you read the wiki carefully. We will try downgrading. This brings up a related matter, when using a slow Internet connection (possibly latency is an issue too) the download frequently fails before it is complete, and there is no way of knowing precisely unless it is a grossly reduced download,. Without testing. I am struggling to download Memorize 33 from the OLPC wiki, at my present location in central PNG, using mobile broadband. I can imagine how difficult that is, but even at very slow speeds Memorize-33.xo should take a very short time ... it is only 832971 bytes long. If you would like to try an alternate method to download on an XO, use Terminal activity and wget. For example: 1. insert a USB stick, 2. start Terminal activity, 3. type cd /media/*, to change the working directory to the USB stick so that the download will go there, 4. type wget -c http://wiki.laptop.org/images/4/44/Memorize-33.xo 5. when it finishes, verify the file with md5sum Memorize-33.xo f2527bab56090a72d396e2b20091e62e is what I get. 6. then close Terminal, open the Journal, find the .xo file, and click on it. Using this method will also help you understand why the download might be failing. The output of step 4 will tell you more details about a failure. With this better understanding you might be able to fix the problem or at least be better informed. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Memorize Game sharing a Created game
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1/8.2 states Memorize 33 as the one that works with 8.2 We had problems with 33 as well, which seems to be consistent with Tom's reference to ticket 2115 We are using build 802 with Sugar 0.82.1 on an XO-1.0 Please can we have the correct version that will definitely share created games on this configuration. David Leeming -Original Message- From: Tom Parker [mailto:t...@carrott.org] Sent: Friday, 23 July 2010 11:59 a.m. To: David Leeming Cc: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: RE: [Sugar-devel] Memorize Game sharing a Created game On Fri, July 23, 2010 1:42 pm, David Leeming wrote: Thanks, it is version 33 that was shipped, if you read the wiki carefully. Are you sure? Memorize 33 was released July 14, 2009 according to http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addons/versions/4063 Build 8.2.1 was released May 13, 2009 according to http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/custom/g1g1/gg-802-1/ and http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/8.2.1 Also, the ticket has been updated by garycmartin saying 33 doesn't work on sugar 0.82 http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2115 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Memorize Game sharing a Created game
Hello, I would like to understand the correct procedure to share and invite a Memorize game that has been created on an XO. Whenever we try this it is very difficult to make it work. Using XO-1.0 / 8.2.1 and Memorize-34 1. Create, name and save a game adding matching pairs of photos from the journal, matched to words (text). 2. Try to invite or share with others. On the XOs that have joined, the game area remains blank (black) and nothing seems to load further 3. We tried uploading to the server (site files) and pre-loading the game on other XOs and retrying. No result I have done this successfully in the past (i.e. transfer a newly created game to others) but cannot reliable replicate. It would seem to be a standard sort of thing to do with Memorize so is it the wrong version for the build/XO that we are using? We also note that when you save a Memorize game it does not give it a file extension/type icon and thus does not load from the journal - you have to load the game from within Memorize. Have we lost something in the mix with that too? David Leeming ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
