Re: [Sugar-devel] Network version of Abecedarium: why and how

2013-04-25 Thread lionel
 

Hi Tom,

 

Very good idea! Don’t tested but yes it should works. 

The WebView already reference the home page using
“file://bundlepath/html/index.html”. I don’t see any reason it can’t
access local images on USB key.

Of course, it require one USB key for each XO.

 

Lionel.

 

 

De : Thomas Gilliard [mailto:satel...@bendbroadband.com] 
Envoyé : mercredi 24 avril 2013 23:20
À : Walter Bender
Cc : Lionel Laské; Sugar-dev Devel; satel...@bendbroadband.com
Objet : Re: [Sugar-devel] Network version of Abecedarium: why and how

 

Could the HTML5 files be addressed to a locally inserted USB? file:///
file:///\\ .. 

Tom Gilliard
satellit

On 04/24/2013 01:42 PM, Walter Bender wrote:

Another thing you may consider is breaking it up into several activities
(essentially removing one level hierarchy) and sharing a common database (on
the school server or locally).

-walter 

 

On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 4:38 PM, lio...@olpc-france.org
mailto:lio...@olpc-france.org  wrote:

Hi all,

 

I’ve released last week my Abecedarium activity for Sugar 0.96+. One issue
with this activity is that, due to number of contents (1500 images and
sounds), its size is about 100Mo.

 

We want to deploy the activity on our Nosy Komba deployment this year: 150
XO-1 and 50 XO-1.5.

Because we’ve got other activities to deploy, we compute:

-  The free space on a XO-1 and XO-1.5 with Sugar 0.96 without any
activity: 550 Mo for XO-1, 2645Mo for XO-1.5.

-  The size of all activities that we planned to install, see the
spreadsheet [1].

Unfortunately 100 Mo is too big for the XO-1 with some other big activities
(GCompris, Tuxmath, TurtleArt, Speak, …).

 

So I choose to develop a new version named “Abecedarium Net” [2] without any
content included, so with a size of only 6Mo.

The idea is to deploy all contents on a school/web server instead of into
the activity. A config file in the activity has to be set with the URL of
the content, or it could be set from a dialog popup. The activity test the
network regularly and display the status.

Because Abecedarium is wrote in HTML5, deploying the web server just mean to
copy the content of the full activity on the server.

I’ve explained the full process in the activity description.

I will test it myself on our School Server at Madagascar but do not hesitate
in the meantime to test it and give me feedback.

 

Best regards from France.

 

Lionel.

 

[1]
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApkC1NVMZoZodDg5em1vaS04VC1vSDd
oZ1Z5SHNJUXc#gid=0 

[2] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en/sugar/addon/4661 


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Network version of Abecedarium: why and how

2013-04-25 Thread lionel
 

Hi Gonzalo,

 

Hmmm, interesting. You’re right it’s a good way to explore to reduce the
package size.

Plus, most of the times images are displayed in the game at maximum 70% of
the real size. So, I’m not sure reducing quality will be visible.

I’m going to try. 

About list of contents, it could be find here: [1].

 

Best regards from France.

 

Lionel.

 

 

[1]
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApkC1NVMZoZodGF1X2lwRERIcTBrN2N
oMFMtejgxbHc#gid=0 

 

De : godi...@gmail.com [mailto:godi...@gmail.com] De la part de Gonzalo
Odiard
Envoyé : mercredi 24 avril 2013 23:31
À : Lionel Laské
Cc : Sugar-dev Devel
Objet : Re: [Sugar-devel] Network version of Abecedarium: why and how

 

Hi Lionel,

Almost 65 MB are in the html/images/database directory, I think you can
reduce the size of these images to 1/4 of the actual size, just saving as
gif or jpg and playing a little with the properties, without loosing too
much quality.

I tried with one on gimp, but you can use imagemagick or similar to
reprocess all the directory

Look:

[gonzalo@localhost abc]$ ls -l 

total 152

-rw-rw-r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 19228 abr 24 17:59 accountant2.jpg

-rw-rw-r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 16029 abr 24 17:59 accountant3.jpg

-rw-rw-r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 21789 abr 24 17:56 accountant.gif

-rw-rw-r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 28391 abr 24 17:57 accountant.jpg

-rw-r--r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 62549 dic  9 22:57 accountant.png

 

(accountant2.jpg is with quality 70% and accountant3.jpg with 50%)

I don't know about the audio, but maybe is possible improve there too.

 

I would like have the list of words represented on these images on pootle. I
imagine many activities 

can use this if is a shared resource. 

 

 

On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 5:38 PM, lio...@olpc-france.org
mailto:lio...@olpc-france.org  wrote:

Hi all,

 

I’ve released last week my Abecedarium activity for Sugar 0.96+. One issue
with this activity is that, due to number of contents (1500 images and
sounds), its size is about 100Mo.

 

We want to deploy the activity on our Nosy Komba deployment this year: 150
XO-1 and 50 XO-1.5.

Because we’ve got other activities to deploy, we compute:

-  The free space on a XO-1 and XO-1.5 with Sugar 0.96 without any
activity: 550 Mo for XO-1, 2645Mo for XO-1.5.

-  The size of all activities that we planned to install, see the
spreadsheet [1].

Unfortunately 100 Mo is too big for the XO-1 with some other big activities
(GCompris, Tuxmath, TurtleArt, Speak, …).

 

So I choose to develop a new version named “Abecedarium Net” [2] without any
content included, so with a size of only 6Mo.

The idea is to deploy all contents on a school/web server instead of into
the activity. A config file in the activity has to be set with the URL of
the content, or it could be set from a dialog popup. The activity test the
network regularly and display the status.

Because Abecedarium is wrote in HTML5, deploying the web server just mean to
copy the content of the full activity on the server.

I’ve explained the full process in the activity description.

I will test it myself on our School Server at Madagascar but do not hesitate
in the meantime to test it and give me feedback.

 

Best regards from France.

 

Lionel.

 

[1]
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApkC1NVMZoZodDg5em1vaS04VC1vSDd
oZ1Z5SHNJUXc#gid=0 

[2] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en/sugar/addon/4661 


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Network version of Abecedarium: why and how

2013-04-25 Thread David Rodríguez Álvarez
Hi, Lionel

Besides any other optimizations, for a really quick and remorseless fix,
you can run your images through Trimage, http://trimage.org/ , which
uses some lossless compression libraries and seems to work nicely with
your png resources (see attachment for an admittedly too small sample of
results from your files, with impossible recursion added for fun).
 
Best regards,

David Rodriguez.

El jue, 25-04-2013 a las 08:54 +0200, lio...@olpc-france.org escribió:
  
 
 Hi Gonzalo,
 
  
 
 Hmmm, interesting. You’re right it’s a good way to explore to reduce
 the package size.
 
 Plus, most of the times images are displayed in the game at maximum
 70% of the real size. So, I’m not sure reducing quality will be
 visible.
 
 I’m going to try. 
 
 About list of contents, it could be find here: [1].
 
  
 
 Best regards from France.
 
  
 
 Lionel.
 
  
 
  
 
 [1]
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApkC1NVMZoZodGF1X2lwRERIcTBrN2NoMFMtejgxbHc#gid=0
  
 
  
 
 De : godi...@gmail.com [mailto:godi...@gmail.com] De la part de
 Gonzalo Odiard
 Envoyé : mercredi 24 avril 2013 23:31
 À : Lionel Laské
 Cc : Sugar-dev Devel
 Objet : Re: [Sugar-devel] Network version of Abecedarium: why and how
 
  
 
 Hi Lionel,
 
 Almost 65 MB are in the html/images/database directory, I think you
 can reduce the size of these images to 1/4 of the actual size, just
 saving as gif or jpg and playing a little with the properties, without
 loosing too much quality.
 
 
 I tried with one on gimp, but you can use imagemagick or similar to
 reprocess all the directory
 
 
 Look:
 
 
 [gonzalo@localhost abc]$ ls -l 
 
 
 total 152
 
 
 -rw-rw-r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 19228 abr 24 17:59 accountant2.jpg
 
 
 -rw-rw-r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 16029 abr 24 17:59 accountant3.jpg
 
 
 -rw-rw-r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 21789 abr 24 17:56 accountant.gif
 
 
 -rw-rw-r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 28391 abr 24 17:57 accountant.jpg
 
 
 -rw-r--r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 62549 dic  9 22:57 accountant.png
 
 
  
 
 
 (accountant2.jpg is with quality 70% and accountant3.jpg with 50%)
 
 
 I don't know about the audio, but maybe is possible improve there too.
 
 
  
 
 
 I would like have the list of words represented on these images on
 pootle. I imagine many activities 
 
 
 can use this if is a shared resource. 
 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 5:38 PM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
  
 
 I’ve released last week my Abecedarium activity for Sugar 0.96
 +. One issue with this activity is that, due to number of
 contents (1500 images and sounds), its size is about 100Mo.
 
  
 
 We want to deploy the activity on our Nosy Komba deployment
 this year: 150 XO-1 and 50 XO-1.5.
 
 Because we’ve got other activities to deploy, we compute:
 
 -  The free space on a XO-1 and XO-1.5 with Sugar 0.96
 without any activity: 550 Mo for XO-1, 2645Mo for XO-1.5.
 
 -  The size of all activities that we planned to
 install, see the spreadsheet [1].
 
 Unfortunately 100 Mo is too big for the XO-1 with some other
 big activities (GCompris, Tuxmath, TurtleArt, Speak, …).
 
  
 
 So I choose to develop a new version named “Abecedarium
 Net” [2] without any content included, so with a size of only
 6Mo.
 
 The idea is to deploy all contents on a school/web server
 instead of into the activity. A config file in the activity
 has to be set with the URL of the content, or it could be set
 from a dialog popup. The activity test the network regularly
 and display the status.
 
 Because Abecedarium is wrote in HTML5, deploying the web
 server just mean to copy the content of the full activity on
 the server.
 
 I’ve explained the full process in the activity description.
 
 I will test it myself on our School Server at Madagascar but
 do not hesitate in the meantime to test it and give me
 feedback.
 
  
 
 Best regards from France.
 
  
 
 Lionel.
 
  
 
 [1]
 
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApkC1NVMZoZodDg5em1vaS04VC1vSDdoZ1Z5SHNJUXc#gid=0
  
 
 [2] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en/sugar/addon/4661 
 
 
 
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Network version of Abecedarium: why and how

2013-04-25 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Nice, looking forward to do something with this.

Gonzalo


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 3:54 AM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote:

 ** **

 Hi Gonzalo,

 ** **

 Hmmm, interesting. You’re right it’s a good way to explore to reduce the
 package size.

 Plus, most of the times images are displayed in the game at maximum 70% of
 the real size. So, I’m not sure reducing quality will be visible.

 I’m going to try. 

 About list of contents, it could be find here: [1].

 ** **

 Best regards from France.

 ** **

 Lionel.

 ** **

 ** **

 [1]
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApkC1NVMZoZodGF1X2lwRERIcTBrN2NoMFMtejgxbHc#gid=0
 

 ** **

 *De :* godi...@gmail.com [mailto:godi...@gmail.com] *De la part de*Gonzalo 
 Odiard
 *Envoyé :* mercredi 24 avril 2013 23:31
 *À :* Lionel Laské
 *Cc :* Sugar-dev Devel

 *Objet :* Re: [Sugar-devel] Network version of Abecedarium: why and how***
 *

 ** **

 Hi Lionel,

 Almost 65 MB are in the html/images/database directory, I think you can
 reduce the size of these images to 1/4 of the actual size, just saving as
 gif or jpg and playing a little with the properties, without loosing too
 much quality.

 I tried with one on gimp, but you can use imagemagick or similar to
 reprocess all the directory

 Look:

 [gonzalo@localhost abc]$ ls -l 

 total 152

 -rw-rw-r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 19228 abr 24 17:59 accountant2.jpg

 -rw-rw-r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 16029 abr 24 17:59 accountant3.jpg

 -rw-rw-r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 21789 abr 24 17:56 accountant.gif

 -rw-rw-r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 28391 abr 24 17:57 accountant.jpg

 -rw-r--r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 62549 dic  9 22:57 accountant.png

 ** **

 (accountant2.jpg is with quality 70% and accountant3.jpg with 50%)

 I don't know about the audio, but maybe is possible improve there too.

 ** **

 I would like have the list of words represented on these images on pootle.
 I imagine many activities 

 can use this if is a shared resource. 

 ** **

 ** **

 On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 5:38 PM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote:

 Hi all,

  

 I’ve released last week my Abecedarium activity for Sugar 0.96+. One issue
 with this activity is that, due to number of contents (1500 images and
 sounds), its size is about 100Mo.

  

 We want to deploy the activity on our Nosy Komba deployment this year: 150
 XO-1 and 50 XO-1.5.

 Because we’ve got other activities to deploy, we compute:

 -  The free space on a XO-1 and XO-1.5 with Sugar 0.96 without
 any activity: 550 Mo for XO-1, 2645Mo for XO-1.5.

 -  The size of all activities that we planned to install, see the
 spreadsheet [1].

 Unfortunately 100 Mo is too big for the XO-1 with some other big
 activities (GCompris, Tuxmath, TurtleArt, Speak, …).

  

 So I choose to develop a new version named “Abecedarium Net” [2] without
 any content included, so with a size of only 6Mo.

 The idea is to deploy all contents on a school/web server instead of into
 the activity. A config file in the activity has to be set with the URL of
 the content, or it could be set from a dialog popup. The activity test the
 network regularly and display the status.

 Because Abecedarium is wrote in HTML5, deploying the web server just mean
 to copy the content of the full activity on the server.

 I’ve explained the full process in the activity description.

 I will test it myself on our School Server at Madagascar but do not
 hesitate in the meantime to test it and give me feedback.

  

 Best regards from France.

  

 Lionel.

  

 [1]
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApkC1NVMZoZodDg5em1vaS04VC1vSDdoZ1Z5SHNJUXc#gid=0
 

 [2] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en/sugar/addon/4661 


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Network version of Abecedarium: why and how

2013-04-25 Thread lionel

Hi David,

Cool! I didn't know that tool.
I'm going to try.

Lionel.

-Message d'origine-
De : David Rodríguez Álvarez [mailto:dar...@activitycentral.com] 
Envoyé : jeudi 25 avril 2013 09:31
À : lio...@olpc-france.org
Cc : 'Gonzalo Odiard'; 'Sugar-dev Devel'
Objet : Re: [Sugar-devel] Network version of Abecedarium: why and how

Hi, Lionel

Besides any other optimizations, for a really quick and remorseless fix, you 
can run your images through Trimage, http://trimage.org/ , which uses some 
lossless compression libraries and seems to work nicely with your png resources 
(see attachment for an admittedly too small sample of results from your files, 
with impossible recursion added for fun).
 
Best regards,

David Rodriguez.

El jue, 25-04-2013 a las 08:54 +0200, lio...@olpc-france.org escribió:
  
 
 Hi Gonzalo,
 
  
 
 Hmmm, interesting. You’re right it’s a good way to explore to reduce 
 the package size.
 
 Plus, most of the times images are displayed in the game at maximum 
 70% of the real size. So, I’m not sure reducing quality will be 
 visible.
 
 I’m going to try. 
 
 About list of contents, it could be find here: [1].
 
  
 
 Best regards from France.
 
  
 
 Lionel.
 
  
 
  
 
 [1]
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApkC1NVMZoZodGF1X2lwRERIc
 TBrN2NoMFMtejgxbHc#gid=0
 
  
 
 De : godi...@gmail.com [mailto:godi...@gmail.com] De la part de 
 Gonzalo Odiard Envoyé : mercredi 24 avril 2013 23:31 À : Lionel Laské 
 Cc : Sugar-dev Devel Objet : Re: [Sugar-devel] Network version of 
 Abecedarium: why and how
 
  
 
 Hi Lionel,
 
 Almost 65 MB are in the html/images/database directory, I think you 
 can reduce the size of these images to 1/4 of the actual size, just 
 saving as gif or jpg and playing a little with the properties, without 
 loosing too much quality.
 
 
 I tried with one on gimp, but you can use imagemagick or similar to 
 reprocess all the directory
 
 
 Look:
 
 
 [gonzalo@localhost abc]$ ls -l
 
 
 total 152
 
 
 -rw-rw-r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 19228 abr 24 17:59 accountant2.jpg
 
 
 -rw-rw-r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 16029 abr 24 17:59 accountant3.jpg
 
 
 -rw-rw-r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 21789 abr 24 17:56 accountant.gif
 
 
 -rw-rw-r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 28391 abr 24 17:57 accountant.jpg
 
 
 -rw-r--r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 62549 dic  9 22:57 accountant.png
 
 
  
 
 
 (accountant2.jpg is with quality 70% and accountant3.jpg with 50%)
 
 
 I don't know about the audio, but maybe is possible improve there too.
 
 
  
 
 
 I would like have the list of words represented on these images on 
 pootle. I imagine many activities
 
 
 can use this if is a shared resource. 
 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 5:38 PM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
  
 
 I’ve released last week my Abecedarium activity for Sugar 0.96
 +. One issue with this activity is that, due to number of
 contents (1500 images and sounds), its size is about 100Mo.
 
  
 
 We want to deploy the activity on our Nosy Komba deployment
 this year: 150 XO-1 and 50 XO-1.5.
 
 Because we’ve got other activities to deploy, we compute:
 
 -  The free space on a XO-1 and XO-1.5 with Sugar 0.96
 without any activity: 550 Mo for XO-1, 2645Mo for XO-1.5.
 
 -  The size of all activities that we planned to
 install, see the spreadsheet [1].
 
 Unfortunately 100 Mo is too big for the XO-1 with some other
 big activities (GCompris, Tuxmath, TurtleArt, Speak, …).
 
  
 
 So I choose to develop a new version named “Abecedarium
 Net” [2] without any content included, so with a size of only
 6Mo.
 
 The idea is to deploy all contents on a school/web server
 instead of into the activity. A config file in the activity
 has to be set with the URL of the content, or it could be set
 from a dialog popup. The activity test the network regularly
 and display the status.
 
 Because Abecedarium is wrote in HTML5, deploying the web
 server just mean to copy the content of the full activity on
 the server.
 
 I’ve explained the full process in the activity description.
 
 I will test it myself on our School Server at Madagascar but
 do not hesitate in the meantime to test it and give me
 feedback.
 
  
 
 Best regards from France.
 
  
 
 Lionel.
 
  
 
 [1]
 
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApkC1NVMZoZodDg5em1vaS04V
 C1vSDdoZ1Z5SHNJUXc#gid=0
 
 [2] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en/sugar/addon/4661

[Sugar-devel] Network version of Abecedarium: why and how

2013-04-24 Thread lionel
Hi all,

 

I’ve released last week my Abecedarium activity for Sugar 0.96+. One issue
with this activity is that, due to number of contents (1500 images and
sounds), its size is about 100Mo.

 

We want to deploy the activity on our Nosy Komba deployment this year: 150
XO-1 and 50 XO-1.5.

Because we’ve got other activities to deploy, we compute:

-  The free space on a XO-1 and XO-1.5 with Sugar 0.96 without any
activity: 550 Mo for XO-1, 2645Mo for XO-1.5.

-  The size of all activities that we planned to install, see the
spreadsheet [1].

Unfortunately 100 Mo is too big for the XO-1 with some other big activities
(GCompris, Tuxmath, TurtleArt, Speak, …).

 

So I choose to develop a new version named “Abecedarium Net” [2] without any
content included, so with a size of only 6Mo.

The idea is to deploy all contents on a school/web server instead of into
the activity. A config file in the activity has to be set with the URL of
the content, or it could be set from a dialog popup. The activity test the
network regularly and display the status.

Because Abecedarium is wrote in HTML5, deploying the web server just mean to
copy the content of the full activity on the server.

I’ve explained the full process in the activity description.

I will test it myself on our School Server at Madagascar but do not hesitate
in the meantime to test it and give me feedback.

 

Best regards from France.

 

Lionel.

 

[1]
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApkC1NVMZoZodDg5em1vaS04VC1vSDd
oZ1Z5SHNJUXc#gid=0 

[2] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en/sugar/addon/4661 

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Network version of Abecedarium: why and how

2013-04-24 Thread Walter Bender
Another thing you may consider is breaking it up into several activities
(essentially removing one level hierarchy) and sharing a common database
(on the school server or locally).

-walter


On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 4:38 PM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote:

 Hi all,

 ** **

 I’ve released last week my Abecedarium activity for Sugar 0.96+. One issue
 with this activity is that, due to number of contents (1500 images and
 sounds), its size is about 100Mo.

 ** **

 We want to deploy the activity on our Nosy Komba deployment this year: 150
 XO-1 and 50 XO-1.5.

 Because we’ve got other activities to deploy, we compute:

 **-  **The free space on a XO-1 and XO-1.5 with Sugar 0.96
 without any activity: 550 Mo for XO-1, 2645Mo for XO-1.5.

 **-  **The size of all activities that we planned to install, see
 the spreadsheet [1].

 Unfortunately 100 Mo is too big for the XO-1 with some other big
 activities (GCompris, Tuxmath, TurtleArt, Speak, …).

 ** **

 So I choose to develop a new version named “Abecedarium Net” [2] without
 any content included, so with a size of only 6Mo.

 The idea is to deploy all contents on a school/web server instead of into
 the activity. A config file in the activity has to be set with the URL of
 the content, or it could be set from a dialog popup. The activity test the
 network regularly and display the status.

 Because Abecedarium is wrote in HTML5, deploying the web server just mean
 to copy the content of the full activity on the server.

 I’ve explained the full process in the activity description.

 I will test it myself on our School Server at Madagascar but do not
 hesitate in the meantime to test it and give me feedback.

 ** **

 Best regards from France.

 ** **

 Lionel.

 ** **

 [1]
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApkC1NVMZoZodDg5em1vaS04VC1vSDdoZ1Z5SHNJUXc#gid=0
 

 [2] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en/sugar/addon/4661 

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Network version of Abecedarium: why and how

2013-04-24 Thread Thomas Gilliard
Could the HTML5 files be addressed to a locally inserted USB? 
file:///..


Tom Gilliard
satellit

On 04/24/2013 01:42 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
Another thing you may consider is breaking it up into several 
activities (essentially removing one level hierarchy) and sharing a 
common database (on the school server or locally).


-walter


On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 4:38 PM, lio...@olpc-france.org 
mailto:lio...@olpc-france.org wrote:


Hi all,

I've released last week my Abecedarium activity for Sugar 0.96+.
One issue with this activity is that, due to number of contents
(1500 images and sounds), its size is about 100Mo.

We want to deploy the activity on our Nosy Komba deployment this
year: 150 XO-1 and 50 XO-1.5.

Because we've got other activities to deploy, we compute:

-The free space on a XO-1 and XO-1.5 with Sugar 0.96 without any
activity: 550 Mo for XO-1, 2645Mo for XO-1.5.

-The size of all activities that we planned to install, see the
spreadsheet [1].

Unfortunately 100 Mo is too big for the XO-1 with some other big
activities (GCompris, Tuxmath, TurtleArt, Speak, ...).

So I choose to develop a new version named Abecedarium Net [2]
without any content included, so with a size of only 6Mo.

The idea is to deploy all contents on a school/web server instead
of into the activity. A config file in the activity has to be set
with the URL of the content, or it could be set from a dialog
popup. The activity test the network regularly and display the status.

Because Abecedarium is wrote in HTML5, deploying the web server
just mean to copy the content of the full activity on the server.

I've explained the full process in the activity description.

I will test it myself on our School Server at Madagascar but do
not hesitate in the meantime to test it and give me feedback.

Best regards from France.

Lionel.

[1]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApkC1NVMZoZodDg5em1vaS04VC1vSDdoZ1Z5SHNJUXc#gid=0


[2] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en/sugar/addon/4661


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Network version of Abecedarium: why and how

2013-04-24 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Hi Lionel,
Almost 65 MB are in the html/images/database directory, I think you can
reduce the size of these images to 1/4 of the actual size, just saving as
gif or jpg and playing a little with the properties, without loosing too
much quality.
I tried with one on gimp, but you can use imagemagick or similar to
reprocess all the directory
Look:
[gonzalo@localhost abc]$ ls -l
total 152
-rw-rw-r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 19228 abr 24 17:59 accountant2.jpg
-rw-rw-r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 16029 abr 24 17:59 accountant3.jpg
-rw-rw-r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 21789 abr 24 17:56 accountant.gif
-rw-rw-r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 28391 abr 24 17:57 accountant.jpg
-rw-r--r--. 1 gonzalo gonzalo 62549 dic  9 22:57 accountant.png

(accountant2.jpg is with quality 70% and accountant3.jpg with 50%)
I don't know about the audio, but maybe is possible improve there too.

I would like have the list of words represented on these images on pootle.
I imagine many activities
can use this if is a shared resource.



On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 5:38 PM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote:

 Hi all,

 ** **

 I’ve released last week my Abecedarium activity for Sugar 0.96+. One issue
 with this activity is that, due to number of contents (1500 images and
 sounds), its size is about 100Mo.

 ** **

 We want to deploy the activity on our Nosy Komba deployment this year: 150
 XO-1 and 50 XO-1.5.

 Because we’ve got other activities to deploy, we compute:

 **-  **The free space on a XO-1 and XO-1.5 with Sugar 0.96
 without any activity: 550 Mo for XO-1, 2645Mo for XO-1.5.

 **-  **The size of all activities that we planned to install, see
 the spreadsheet [1].

 Unfortunately 100 Mo is too big for the XO-1 with some other big
 activities (GCompris, Tuxmath, TurtleArt, Speak, …).

 ** **

 So I choose to develop a new version named “Abecedarium Net” [2] without
 any content included, so with a size of only 6Mo.

 The idea is to deploy all contents on a school/web server instead of into
 the activity. A config file in the activity has to be set with the URL of
 the content, or it could be set from a dialog popup. The activity test the
 network regularly and display the status.

 Because Abecedarium is wrote in HTML5, deploying the web server just mean
 to copy the content of the full activity on the server.

 I’ve explained the full process in the activity description.

 I will test it myself on our School Server at Madagascar but do not
 hesitate in the meantime to test it and give me feedback.

 ** **

 Best regards from France.

 ** **

 Lionel.

 ** **

 [1]
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApkC1NVMZoZodDg5em1vaS04VC1vSDdoZ1Z5SHNJUXc#gid=0
 

 [2] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en/sugar/addon/4661 

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