Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are strange
On 01/19/2012 04:01 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: James, but the thing is, everything needs rewriting, not just some words or phrases. Thomas, what you just explained isn't what is in the wiki. Also, in another page linked from the main Sugar Creation Kit page: To clear Sugar of these keys and the name and color entries, enter the command rm ~ rf /.sugar This of course deletes the journal as well. It also says on the next line: * *To reset only the ssh keys*, in order to keep the Journal and installed .xo Activities, use |rm ~/.sugar/default/owner.key*| in the Sugar Terminal, and then shutdown sugar |su shutdown -h now|. This leaves the Journal entries and removes only the previous Learner's identity key files.* * I have changed the colored bar instructions on all web pages and added a Summary section from the previous e-mail to the tutorial drag-drop. Cordially; Tom Gilliard satellit_ I appreciate all feedback so that the wiki works better. Thanks Eduardo 2012/1/19 Thomas C Gilliardsatel...@bendbroadband.com: On 01/19/2012 02:25 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: Take one example: Exporting/Importing files from the sugar-journal with Drag-Drop with a 2nd USB-stick. And it even doesn't show how to do that. Eduardo: I do not understand why you think this. A brief synopsis of the process: 1)You need a 2nd USB-stick inserted in a USB slot before you begin. 2)Click on the journal icon under the XO Avitar in f3 (Home) screen. 3)move the mouse cursor to the center of the screen. 4)In the left bottom of the sugar screen will be 2 USB icons - Journal - 2nd USB 5)click on the file in the journal listing that pops up when you click on the icon in the left bottom corner; and hold down the mouse as you drag the entry to the 2nd USB Icon next to it on the bottom left corner. 6) release the mouse button when you are over the 2nd USB Icon and a + will appear. This is a Drag-Drop export to the 2nd USB-stick Import to Sugar Journal is done just the opposite way: 1) click on a picture or .xo file on the 2nd USB that pops up when you click on the icon in the left bottom corner. 2) drag it with the mouse to the journal icon in the bottom left corner. A + will appear as it is added to the journal. When you go to (f3) Home Screen and click on the journal the new item will be in the journal. Plus if it was an activity.xo file It will be installed. (The drag-drop process in sugar does a hidden conversion of the journal files to ones that will work on a USB. It seems to be the only way to do an import/export in Sugar.) Cordially Tom Gilliard satellit_ Eduardo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are strange
On 01/19/2012 04:19 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: 2012/1/20 Thomas C Gilliardsatel...@bendbroadband.com: On 01/19/2012 04:01 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: James, but the thing is, everything needs rewriting, not just some words or phrases. Thomas, what you just explained isn't what is in the wiki. Also, in another page linked from the main Sugar Creation Kit page: To clear Sugar of these keys and the name and color entries, enter the command rm ~ rf /.sugar This of course deletes the journal as well. It also says on the next line: To reset only the ssh keys, in order to keep the Journal and installed .xo Activities, use rm ~/.sugar/default/owner.key* in the Sugar Terminal, and then shutdown sugar su shutdown -h now. This leaves the Journal entries and removes only the previous Learner's identity key files. Then why include the first instruction? It deletes the Journal. Eduardo It also prepares sugar (Soas) to a virgin state ready for the next user: *To clear Sugar of these keys and the name and color entries*, enter the command (|rm ~ rf /.sugar|) in the Terminal activity. Then shutdown sugar (|su shutdown -h now| ) . This will clear all Learner information and let you start with a fresh install. Skipping this will result in collisions in the Neighborhood view of the Jabber network. Verify the presence of the *.sugar* directory by entering(|ls -a| )in Terminal. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Introduction_to_Sugar_Interface#How_To_clear_Sugar_of_these_keys_and_the_name_and_color_entries If this is too advanced, for the tutorial, It can be removed. The network collisions problem is real. some people use dd to copy a usb and will have many problems if multiple identical copies are used. Tom Gilliard satellit_ I have changed the colored bar instructions on all web pages and added a Summary section from the previous e-mail to the tutorial drag-drop. Cordially; Tom Gilliard satellit_ I appreciate all feedback so that the wiki works better. Thanks Eduardo 2012/1/19 Thomas C Gilliardsatel...@bendbroadband.com: On 01/19/2012 02:25 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: Take one example: Exporting/Importing files from the sugar-journal with Drag-Drop with a 2nd USB-stick. And it even doesn't show how to do that. Eduardo: I do not understand why you think this. A brief synopsis of the process: 1)You need a 2nd USB-stick inserted in a USB slot before you begin. 2)Click on the journal icon under the XO Avitar in f3 (Home) screen. 3)move the mouse cursor to the center of the screen. 4)In the left bottom of the sugar screen will be 2 USB icons - Journal - 2nd USB 5)click on the file in the journal listing that pops up when you click on the icon in the left bottom corner; and hold down the mouse as you drag the entry to the 2nd USB Icon next to it on the bottom left corner. 6) release the mouse button when you are over the 2nd USB Icon and a + will appear. This is a Drag-Drop export to the 2nd USB-stick Import to Sugar Journal is done just the opposite way: 1) click on a picture or .xo file on the 2nd USB that pops up when you click on the icon in the left bottom corner. 2) drag it with the mouse to the journal icon in the bottom left corner. A + will appear as it is added to the journal. When you go to (f3) Home Screen and click on the journal the new item will be in the journal. Plus if it was an activity.xo file It will be installed. (The drag-drop process in sugar does a hidden conversion of the journal files to ones that will work on a USB. It seems to be the only way to do an import/export in Sugar.) Cordially Tom Gilliard satellit_ Eduardo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are strange
Take one example: Exporting/Importing files from the sugar-journal with Drag-Drop with a 2nd USB-stick. And it even doesn't show how to do that. Eduardo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are strange
P.S. - The link is http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit and I really think it should be moved to the users wiki page. Eduardo 2012/1/19 Eduardo H. Silva hoboprim...@gmail.com: Take one example: Exporting/Importing files from the sugar-journal with Drag-Drop with a 2nd USB-stick. And it even doesn't show how to do that. Eduardo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are strange
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:25:28PM +, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: Take one example: Exporting/Importing files from the sugar-journal with Drag-Drop with a 2nd USB-stick. And it even doesn't show how to do that. Could you edit the page then? Remove any text that shouldn't be there, and fix any text that is wrong. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are strange
On 01/19/2012 02:25 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: Take one example: Exporting/Importing files from the sugar-journal with Drag-Drop with a 2nd USB-stick. And it even doesn't show how to do that. Eduardo: I do not understand why you think this. A brief synopsis of the process: 1)You need a 2nd USB-stick inserted in a USB slot before you begin. 2)Click on the journal icon under the XO Avitar in f3 (Home) screen. 3)move the mouse cursor to the center of the screen. 4)In the left bottom of the sugar screen will be 2 USB icons - Journal - 2nd USB 5)click on the file in the journal listing that pops up when you click on the icon in the left bottom corner; and hold down the mouse as you drag the entry to the 2nd USB Icon next to it on the bottom left corner. 6) release the mouse button when you are over the 2nd USB Icon and a + will appear. This is a Drag-Drop export to the 2nd USB-stick Import to Sugar Journal is done just the opposite way: 1) click on a picture or .xo file on the 2nd USB that pops up when you click on the icon in the left bottom corner. 2) drag it with the mouse to the journal icon in the bottom left corner. A + will appear as it is added to the journal. When you go to (f3) Home Screen and click on the journal the new item will be in the journal. Plus if it was an activity.xo file It will be installed. (The drag-drop process in sugar does a hidden conversion of the journal files to ones that will work on a USB. It seems to be the only way to do an import/export in Sugar.) Cordially Tom Gilliard satellit_ Eduardo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are strange
Done changed to : * '''Use the ← leftright → links in the colored bar below :to connect to another part of this Annotated Guide to Sugar''' Tom Gilliard satellit_ On 01/19/2012 02:57 PM, James Cameron wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:25:28PM +, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: Take one example: Exporting/Importing files from the sugar-journal with Drag-Drop with a 2nd USB-stick. And it even doesn't show how to do that. Could you edit the page then? Remove any text that shouldn't be there, and fix any text that is wrong. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are strange
On 01/19/2012 02:55 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: P.S. - The link is http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit and I really think it should be moved to the users wiki page. I am hoping that this tutorial will be usefull enough to be linked/moved to a page of the new sugarlabs web page http://christianmarcschmidt.com/projects/sugarlabs/ explanation: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eLKBgFb2nAok6kQ_iyOTPlXISc5NVemtGstZThw78X0/edit?pli=1 Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar Eduardo 2012/1/19 Eduardo H. Silvahoboprim...@gmail.com: Take one example: Exporting/Importing files from the sugar-journal with Drag-Drop with a 2nd USB-stick. And it even doesn't show how to do that. Eduardo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are strange-first message with held do to commands
Sorry, been forgetting to reply to the list as well. On 01/19/2012 04:01 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: James, but the thing is, everything needs rewriting, not just some words or phrases. Thomas, what you just explained isn't what is in the wiki. Also, in another page linked from the main Sugar Creation Kit page: To clear Sugar of these keys and the name and color entries, enter the command rm ~ rf /.sugar This of course deletes the journal as well. It also says on the next line: - *To reset only the ssh keys*, in order to keep the Journal and installed .xo Activities, use (rm ~/.sugar/default/owner.key*) in the Sugar Terminal, and then shutdown sugar (su shutdown -h now). This leaves the Journal entries and removes only the previous Learner's identity key files Then why include the first instruction? It deletes the Journal. Eduardo I have changed the colored bar instructions on all web pages and added a Summary section from the previous e-mail to the tutorial drag-drop. Cordially; Tom Gilliard satellit_ I appreciate all feedback so that the wiki works better. Thanks Eduardo 2012/1/19 Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com satel...@bendbroadband.com: On 01/19/2012 02:25 PM, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: Take one example: Exporting/Importing files from the sugar-journal with Drag-Drop with a 2nd USB-stick. And it even doesn't show how to do that. Eduardo: I do not understand why you think this. A brief synopsis of the process: 1)You need a 2nd USB-stick inserted in a USB slot before you begin. 2)Click on the journal icon under the XO Avitar in f3 (Home) screen. 3)move the mouse cursor to the center of the screen. 4)In the left bottom of the sugar screen will be 2 USB icons - Journal - 2nd USB 5)click on the file in the journal listing that pops up when you click on the icon in the left bottom corner; and hold down the mouse as you drag the entry to the 2nd USB Icon next to it on the bottom left corner. 6) release the mouse button when you are over the 2nd USB Icon and a + will appear. This is a Drag-Drop export to the 2nd USB-stick Import to Sugar Journal is done just the opposite way: 1) click on a picture or .xo file on the 2nd USB that pops up when you click on the icon in the left bottom corner. 2) drag it with the mouse to the journal icon in the bottom left corner. A + will appear as it is added to the journal. When you go to (f3) Home Screen and click on the journal the new item will be in the journal. Plus if it was an activity.xo file It will be installed. (The drag-drop process in sugar does a hidden conversion of the journal files to ones that will work on a USB. It seems to be the only way to do an import/export in Sugar.) Cordially Tom Gilliard satellit_ Eduardo ___ Sugar-devel mailing listSugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.orghttp://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Creation Kit pages on the wiki are strange-first message with held do to commands
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 12:34:07AM +, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: Sorry, been forgetting to reply to the list as well. I've decided to go off list with my discussion of this issue. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
