Re: [Sugar-devel] What should system mood really mean? (forked from #2141 UNSP: Memory and CPU status indicator for the frame.)

2010-09-15 Thread Frederick Grose
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Anish Mangal anishmangal2...@gmail.comwrote:

 Idea!

 How about extending the meaning of 'system mood' to more than just the
 memory and cpu usage metrics.

 What would contribute to my system being 'unhappy'? Off the top my
 head, the ones I could think of are:

 + I'm almost out of resources (cpu, memory).
 + If I have a battery, its almost empty.
 + If I have wireless connectivity, I have very low signal strength.
 + I'm almost out of physical storage space.



 + more suggestions


For Sugar on a Stick, the *device mapper* service dmsetup provides a
status report
which shows the consumption of space allocated for persistent storage, the
snapshot overlay file. *Sugar Cellar* is a small, utility script which uses
that service to allow for Learner testing and discovery. This will help
Learners manage their storage resources and learn ways to economize limited
resources. [http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/LiveOS_image]

Sugar Cellar is a component of Sugar on a Stick/Sugar
Clonehttp://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Sugar_Clone
.

 --Fred
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Re: [Sugar-devel] What should system mood really mean? (forked from #2141 UNSP: Memory and CPU status indicator for the frame.)

2010-09-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Anish Mangal
anishmangal2...@gmail.com wrote:
 How about extending the meaning of 'system mood' to more than just the
 memory and cpu usage metrics.

As I've mentioned in the other thread, this is not a good metaphor.

If you have a box, as long as things _fit_ in it, you're ok. An
almost-full box cannot be said to be happy or unhappy -- very often
you are trying to maximise its use.

Three problems

 - the metaphor is a really bad match

 - mixing many variables is problematic

 - for the few problems this may help diagnose, there is no link to
the responsible system component, and no link to the action

I think we need to work on this area, and that your work in it is
invaluable. I do think it is showing that this particular path is
clearly not being productive.



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Re: [Sugar-devel] What should system mood really mean? (forked from #2141 UNSP: Memory and CPU status indicator for the frame.)

2010-09-15 Thread ALEXANDER JONES (RIT Student)
I was reading through these threads and suddenly had an idea. My dad has a
honda insight and on the display it shows a bar correlating to how well your
driving your car (efficiency wise). A pictures of it can be found here (
http://www.insightman.com/images/euro-5.jpg) and here (
http://www.insightman.com/images/Eco-Drive_01.jpg). basically, the car
displays green if your in the middle, light blue if you're in either of the
outer two bars, and dark blue if you're beyond those bars. perhaps we can
have some kind of bar like indicator that changes color and there is a
target color (probably green) that they're aiming for. the important part is
that they don't go past a certain color (probably red). The 'happy computer'
is poor because the user is basically targeting that threshold between happy
and sad, so in the beginning they're targeting to be as sad as possible
without actually being sad.

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Anish Mangal
 anishmangal2...@gmail.com wrote:
  How about extending the meaning of 'system mood' to more than just the
  memory and cpu usage metrics.

 As I've mentioned in the other thread, this is not a good metaphor.

 If you have a box, as long as things _fit_ in it, you're ok. An
 almost-full box cannot be said to be happy or unhappy -- very often
 you are trying to maximise its use.

 Three problems

  - the metaphor is a really bad match

  - mixing many variables is problematic

  - for the few problems this may help diagnose, there is no link to
 the responsible system component, and no link to the action

 I think we need to work on this area, and that your work in it is
 invaluable. I do think it is showing that this particular path is
 clearly not being productive.



 m
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  mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect
  - ask interesting questions
  - don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first
  - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff
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