Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] GSoC is for coding projects

2018-02-14 Thread Lionel Laské 
Struck out is not a good idea. Nothing explain that these projects are not
real GSoC projects. So nothing forbid students to do proposal on these
projects.
I suggest to move it on a "future project idea" page on the wiki to avoid
confusion.

"Involve some programming" is not enough for GSoC projects. It should be a
programming task. Some other projects on this page are not compliant in my
opinion:
- Making a Beginner Guide: It's about documenting, not coding.
- Sugar Labs Social: It's about marketing and integrating blog/forum tools,
not implementing a new feature or a new module of anything.
- Making a marketing animated website page of Sugar Labs: As the name
suggest it's marketing too. Developing a set of page with animation and
style sheets is not about coding, it's about design.

Re-read my question to GSoC guys; I've explicitly asked question about that
type of tasks.

   Lionel.


2018-02-14 22:59 GMT+01:00 Walter Bender :

>
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 4:42 PM, Walter Bender 
> wrote:
>
>> I thought I struck out all the non-programming tasks... /me looks again.
>>
>
> Re-struck a couple of project. While I don't agree that some of these
> project ideas are high priority, I think everything that remains does in
> fact involve some programming.
>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 4:40 PM, Lionel Laské 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Most tasks are no longer struck out...
>>> I think it's unfair to let students write proposals about projects we
>>> will be force to ignore to comply to Google rules.
>>>
>>>  Lionel.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2018-02-03 21:14 GMT+01:00 Walter Bender :
>>>
 The non-coding tasks are struck out.

 On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Lionel Laské 
 wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> Yesterday we had a discussion at SLOB meeting regarding possibility to
> submit GSoC projects without coding tasks (marketing, documentation,
> localization, ...).
> I asked a question regarding this point on the GSoC mentor mailing
> list.
>
> Following is the very clear answer from Cat Allman, member of the
> Google GSoC team. Shortly: "GSoC is about coding".
>
> So I suggest that we update our project list page [1] to be more
> compliant with these rule. Few projects are clearly not coding tasks 
> today.
>
> Best regards from France.
>
>   Lionel.
>
>
> [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2018
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Cat Allman
> Date: 2018-02-03 18:38 GMT+01:00
> Subject: Re: [GSoC Mentors] Non coding projects for GSoC ?
> Cc: lio...@olpc-france.org, Google Summer of Code Mentors List <
> google-summer-of-code-mentors-l...@googlegroups.com>
>
>
> Hi Lionel,
>
> Summer of Code is indeed about coding. Our program for teens, Google
> Code-in, includes other kinds of open source contribution, but GSOC does
> not.
>
> Regards,
>
> Cat
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018, 23:41 Lionel Laské 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Vocabulary used on GSoC web site is mainly focused on developers:
>> "summer of code", "student developers", "programming projects", "start of
>> coding period", ...
>>
>> So I wondering if it's okay to propose projects for GSoC without
>> coding or with few coding. For example:
>> - Write an user documentation,
>> - Create a marketing website,
>> - Update a wiki,
>> - Do translation,
>> ...
>>
>> Thanks in advice for advices/answers.
>>
>> Best regards from France.
>>
>>  Lionel.
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] GSoC is for coding projects

2018-02-14 Thread Walter Bender 
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 4:42 PM, Walter Bender 
wrote:

> I thought I struck out all the non-programming tasks... /me looks again.
>

Re-struck a couple of project. While I don't agree that some of these
project ideas are high priority, I think everything that remains does in
fact involve some programming.

>
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 4:40 PM, Lionel Laské 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Most tasks are no longer struck out...
>> I think it's unfair to let students write proposals about projects we
>> will be force to ignore to comply to Google rules.
>>
>>  Lionel.
>>
>>
>> 2018-02-03 21:14 GMT+01:00 Walter Bender :
>>
>>> The non-coding tasks are struck out.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Lionel Laské 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Hi all,

 Yesterday we had a discussion at SLOB meeting regarding possibility to
 submit GSoC projects without coding tasks (marketing, documentation,
 localization, ...).
 I asked a question regarding this point on the GSoC mentor mailing list.

 Following is the very clear answer from Cat Allman, member of the
 Google GSoC team. Shortly: "GSoC is about coding".

 So I suggest that we update our project list page [1] to be more
 compliant with these rule. Few projects are clearly not coding tasks today.

 Best regards from France.

   Lionel.


 [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2018


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Cat Allman
 Date: 2018-02-03 18:38 GMT+01:00
 Subject: Re: [GSoC Mentors] Non coding projects for GSoC ?
 Cc: lio...@olpc-france.org, Google Summer of Code Mentors List <
 google-summer-of-code-mentors-l...@googlegroups.com>


 Hi Lionel,

 Summer of Code is indeed about coding. Our program for teens, Google
 Code-in, includes other kinds of open source contribution, but GSOC does
 not.

 Regards,

 Cat



 On Sat, Feb 3, 2018, 23:41 Lionel Laské  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Vocabulary used on GSoC web site is mainly focused on developers:
> "summer of code", "student developers", "programming projects", "start of
> coding period", ...
>
> So I wondering if it's okay to propose projects for GSoC without
> coding or with few coding. For example:
> - Write an user documentation,
> - Create a marketing website,
> - Update a wiki,
> - Do translation,
> ...
>
> Thanks in advice for advices/answers.
>
> Best regards from France.
>
>  Lionel.
>

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] GSoC is for coding projects

2018-02-14 Thread Walter Bender 
I thought I struck out all the non-programming tasks... /me looks again.

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 4:40 PM, Lionel Laské 
wrote:

>
> Most tasks are no longer struck out...
> I think it's unfair to let students write proposals about projects we will
> be force to ignore to comply to Google rules.
>
>  Lionel.
>
>
> 2018-02-03 21:14 GMT+01:00 Walter Bender :
>
>> The non-coding tasks are struck out.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Lionel Laské 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Yesterday we had a discussion at SLOB meeting regarding possibility to
>>> submit GSoC projects without coding tasks (marketing, documentation,
>>> localization, ...).
>>> I asked a question regarding this point on the GSoC mentor mailing list.
>>>
>>> Following is the very clear answer from Cat Allman, member of the Google
>>> GSoC team. Shortly: "GSoC is about coding".
>>>
>>> So I suggest that we update our project list page [1] to be more
>>> compliant with these rule. Few projects are clearly not coding tasks today.
>>>
>>> Best regards from France.
>>>
>>>   Lionel.
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2018
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Cat Allman
>>> Date: 2018-02-03 18:38 GMT+01:00
>>> Subject: Re: [GSoC Mentors] Non coding projects for GSoC ?
>>> Cc: lio...@olpc-france.org, Google Summer of Code Mentors List <
>>> google-summer-of-code-mentors-l...@googlegroups.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Lionel,
>>>
>>> Summer of Code is indeed about coding. Our program for teens, Google
>>> Code-in, includes other kinds of open source contribution, but GSOC does
>>> not.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Cat
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018, 23:41 Lionel Laské  wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 Vocabulary used on GSoC web site is mainly focused on developers:
 "summer of code", "student developers", "programming projects", "start of
 coding period", ...

 So I wondering if it's okay to propose projects for GSoC without coding
 or with few coding. For example:
 - Write an user documentation,
 - Create a marketing website,
 - Update a wiki,
 - Do translation,
 ...

 Thanks in advice for advices/answers.

 Best regards from France.

  Lionel.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] GSoC is for coding projects

2018-02-14 Thread Lionel Laské 
Most tasks are no longer struck out...
I think it's unfair to let students write proposals about projects we will
be force to ignore to comply to Google rules.

 Lionel.


2018-02-03 21:14 GMT+01:00 Walter Bender :

> The non-coding tasks are struck out.
>
> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Lionel Laské 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Yesterday we had a discussion at SLOB meeting regarding possibility to
>> submit GSoC projects without coding tasks (marketing, documentation,
>> localization, ...).
>> I asked a question regarding this point on the GSoC mentor mailing list.
>>
>> Following is the very clear answer from Cat Allman, member of the Google
>> GSoC team. Shortly: "GSoC is about coding".
>>
>> So I suggest that we update our project list page [1] to be more
>> compliant with these rule. Few projects are clearly not coding tasks today.
>>
>> Best regards from France.
>>
>>   Lionel.
>>
>>
>> [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2018
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Cat Allman
>> Date: 2018-02-03 18:38 GMT+01:00
>> Subject: Re: [GSoC Mentors] Non coding projects for GSoC ?
>> Cc: lio...@olpc-france.org, Google Summer of Code Mentors List <
>> google-summer-of-code-mentors-l...@googlegroups.com>
>>
>>
>> Hi Lionel,
>>
>> Summer of Code is indeed about coding. Our program for teens, Google
>> Code-in, includes other kinds of open source contribution, but GSOC does
>> not.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Cat
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018, 23:41 Lionel Laské  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Vocabulary used on GSoC web site is mainly focused on developers:
>>> "summer of code", "student developers", "programming projects", "start of
>>> coding period", ...
>>>
>>> So I wondering if it's okay to propose projects for GSoC without coding
>>> or with few coding. For example:
>>> - Write an user documentation,
>>> - Create a marketing website,
>>> - Update a wiki,
>>> - Do translation,
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Thanks in advice for advices/answers.
>>>
>>> Best regards from France.
>>>
>>>  Lionel.
>>>
>>
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