Re: Fonts for sundials

2000-11-09 Thread Dave Bell

On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, John Davis wrote:

 Does anyone know of a good source for computer fonts (preferably
 Windows-compatible) of antique characters?

There are many sites with free- or share-ware fonts available. One that
offers a few free sets, and has a LOT of quality fonts and graphics is:

http://www.fontcraft.com/scriptorium

Dave
N37.29W121.97


beaded EOT DXF file available

2000-11-09 Thread John Carmichael

Hello all:

From what I'm hearing, some of you are finding it easier to open a DXF file
of my beaded EOT graph. For some reason, when I convert a Delta Cad file to
DXF, the beads (which are actually circles of small radii) are smaller than
the beads on my original DC drawing.  The lines are also thinner, but the
text is all ok.  Despite these differences, the graph is still good.

If anyone would like the DXF file instead, let me know.

John Carmichael
Tucson AZ


Re: beaded EOT graph available

2000-11-09 Thread John Davis

Hi John,

I'd like a copy of the file, please.

An alternative to an EoT graph (which some members of the public find
surprisingly difficult to read), many old dials used a form of table, often
curved around the dial.  The months, with individual days, were laid out in
a linear (or circular) strip, with a nonlinear scale of EoT (in whole
minutes) running next to it.  I've recently put this on a new dial, and find
that it can be read to half a minute on any day.  This is about the same
accuracy that the 12 horizontal dial can be read to.

Best regards, and thanks for making the DeltaCAD file available,

John
---
Dr J R Davis
Flowton, UK
52.08N, 1.043E
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: John Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de
Sent: 08 November 2000 15:27
Subject: beaded EOT graph available


 Hello All:

 About a year ago, Tony Moss made some beautiful 4 x 8 inch bronze Equation
 of Time plaques for me.  When we were working on their design, I
originally
 wanted them to have horizontal lines of one minute increments and vertical
 lines of five day increments. This made a graph which was very busy with
way
 too many closely spaced lines, so we ended up using horizontal lines of
five
 minute increments and vertical lines with 5 day increments.

 To avoid using so many lines, I recently designed a beaded EOT graph with
 beads on the curve representing dates at ten day increments, and
horizontal
 lines with one minute increments. I also indicate the solstices and
 equinoxes with larger beads. This version is attractive, precise and very
 easy to read.

 If anybody would like my original Delta Cad file (14.2 KB) of my beaded
EOT
 graph please tell me and I'll send it as an attachment. (note: you must
have
 Delta Cad to view this.  Unfortunately,I tried converting the DC file to
 GIF, JPEG, and BMP files, but for some reason the beads don't show up in
 these formats).

 Best

 John Carmichael
 Tucson Arizona

 p.s To draw this graph on Delta Cad, I went about it in a roundabout way.
 Because there are no programs available for drawing customized Delta Cad
EOT
 curves, I scanned the EOT graph in the Shadows generator program and
placed
 the scanned photo in DC. Then I traced over all the lines, added some nice
 text and borders, then erased the photo.

 pps. It would be nice to have a DC macro which would allow the user to
draw
 customized EOT graphs with different time and date increments and
different
 allowable spacings between these lines. This way, you could make EOT
curves
 of different sizes and shapes which would be convenient for adding to dial
 faces that have limited available free space.




Fonts for sundials

2000-11-09 Thread John Davis



Hi all,

Does anyone know of a good source for computer fonts 
(preferably Windows-compatible) of antique characters? Old hand-engraved 
dials had a very particular style which it is difficult to replicate with modern 
fonts. For example, the figure "8" was often flat-topped, as was 
the"3", and it and  the "5"s and "7"s usually extended below the 
line.

The Roman numerals for the hour-ring were usually very 
tall and thin, with extreme variations between the thick and thin strokes, and 
very narrow gapsbetween letters (eg in III). It is time-consuming 
generating these from scratch, or stretching existing characters. 


The reason for the question is that I'm making a replica 
or the 17th century dial (from poor-quality photos!) and it is difficult to get 
the "feel" right.

Any help would be gratefully received.

John
-
Dr J R DavisFlowton, UK52.08N, 1.043Eemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: beaded EOT graph available

2000-11-09 Thread Tony Moss

John Carmichael contributed:

When designing a sundial, sometimes blank available space for an EOT graph
on the sundial face is limited to a certain size and shape.  It would be
nice to be able to design EOT graphs of different shapes for this reason.

This is a very simple task in Adobe Illustrator with the Draw Tools 
filter.  A pre-drawn graph, complete with lines and numerals, can be 
skewed or stretched to fit any rectilinear shape, wrapped around a 
sphere, cone, cylinder etc. or even placed accurately on a waving flag of 
your own design with a few simple 'drags' and keystrokes.

Contrary to popular belief I do not own shares in Adobe.  :-) but I 
wish I did!

Tony Moss

P.S.  Just to amuse myself I made a 'Waving Flag' out of the beaded EofT 
John kindly sent me and saved it as an Acrobat file which anyone with an 
Acrobat Reader/Viewer should be able to see.  His DXF file was 'Opened' 
in Illustrator, text Converted to Outlines, Grouped, and committed to a 
Free Distort rectangle in Draw Tools which I'd previously dragged into a 
flag shape.  The whole operation took less than a minute.

It's only 170k. 

Copies on request.

P.P.S.  I'm not nutty enough to think that EofT Flags may have some use.  
This is merely to illustrate what is possible.