Re: Fw: Historical locations and longitudes

2001-07-19 Thread Peter Mayer

Dear John,

>  Name on  dial   Longitude   Fort St George
>86d E  >(perhaps Madras?)

Oh! and
>Cape Comorm 79d E

Is Cape Comorin, the southernmost point on the Indian sub-continent...


cheers,

Peter

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Re: Fw: Historical locations and longitudes

2001-07-19 Thread Peter Mayer

Dear John,

  Name on  dial   Longitude   Fort St George
86d E  (perhaps Madras?)

Spot on!  Fort St George is still there on the beach, the centre of
the administration of the state of Tamil Nadu (formerly Madras State) in
the city of Chennai (once Madras)...

cheers,

Peter

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Re: Fw: Historical locations and longitudes

2001-07-19 Thread Frank Evans

 John Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> 

>
>Hi colleagues,
> 
>I have recently had the opportunity to inspect a superb bronze 
>horizontal dial made by George Adams (the elder) in the second 
>quarter of the 18th century.  
> 
>Amongst other exiting details of the engraving, it carries the 
>names of 32 cities or locations worldwide in the chapter ring.  The 
>names are evenly distributed with two between each pair of hour 
>numerals, but small arrows identify the time of noon at these 
>locations (compared to that of the dial, located at around 1 degree 
>East) to the nearest minute.
> 
>Many of the cities still have the same names: Dublin, Lisbon, 
>Boston etc.  Some are easy to guess: Dantzick = Gdansk; 
>Constanstinople = Istanbul; Berbadoes = Barbados etc.  However, 
>some have me baffled and hence I'm posting this looking for help, 
>please.  Can anyone identify the following locations, with very 
>approximate longitudes calculated from the dial.  I say approximate 
>because some of the known cities have large inaccuracies compared 
>to modern values, eg although Lisbon is right to half a degree, 
>"Pekin in China" is 16 degrees off the value my atlas gives for 
>Bejing!
> 
>Name on dial   Longitude
> 
>Fort St George                86d E  (perhaps Madras?)
>Cape Comorm                79d E
>Isphan                            56d E
>Cainiec   27d E
>St Mich. Isle                    28d W
>Ca. Spir Sancto   41d W
>Ca Fare Freezld   50d W
>Port Concepn                110d E
>Compostetta   117d W
> 
>Note that the engraving makes some characters difficult to read and 
>the above list might have mis-identified in for m, f for the long s 
>etc.
> 
>Here's hoping the list includes some historical cartographers!
> 
>
 Yes, there are certainly some large errors. Madras (Fort St. George) is
80 deg 14 min E according to Norie's Tables, while Calcutta is nearer at
88 deg 20 min E but that is at Fort William. Never mind, John Harrison
will soon be along.

Frank 55N 1W (or thereabouts)
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Fw: Historical locations and longitudes

2001-07-19 Thread John Davis



 
Dr J R DavisFlowton, UK52.08N, 1.043Eemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: John 
Davis 
To: Mailinglist Sundial 
Sent: 19 July 2001 15:09
Subject: Historical locations and longitudes

Hi colleagues,
 
I have recently had the opportunity to inspect a superb 
bronze horizontal dial made by George Adams (the elder) in the second quarter of 
the 18th century.  
 
Amongst other exiting details of the engraving, it carries 
the names of 32 cities or locations worldwide in the chapter ring.  The 
names are evenly distributed with two between each pair of hour numerals, 
but small arrows identify the time of noon at these locations (compared to that 
of the dial, located at around 1 degree East) to the nearest 
minute.
 
Many of the cities still have the same names: Dublin, 
Lisbon, Boston etc.  Some are easy to guess: Dantzick = Gdansk; 
Constanstinople = Istanbul; Berbadoes = Barbados etc.  However, some have 
me baffled and hence I'm posting this looking for help, please.  Can anyone 
identify the following locations, with very approximate longitudes calculated 
from the dial.  I say approximate because some of the known cities have 
large inaccuracies compared to modern values, eg although Lisbon is right to 
half a degree, "Pekin in China" is 16 degrees off the value my atlas gives for 
Bejing!
 
Name on 
dial   Longitude
 
Fort St George        
        86d E  (perhaps Madras?)
Cape Comorm        
        79d E
Isphan        
                
    56d E
Cainiec   27d 
E
St Mich. Isle        
            28d W
Ca. Spir 
Sancto   41d 
W
Ca Fare 
Freezld   50d 
W
Port Concepn        
        110d E
Compostetta   117d 
W
 
Note that the engraving makes some characters difficult to 
read and the above list might have mis-identified in for m, f for the long 
s etc.
 
Here's hoping the list includes some historical 
cartographers!
 
John
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Dr J R DavisFlowton, UK52.08N, 1.043Eemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]