RE: [freenet-support] how many existing ways to announce a newFreesite?

2003-12-09 Thread Nicholas Sturm





> hello...or self-appointed moral leaders...or even john ashcroft!

You are redundant.

Actually the idea of not being able to search the freenet web rather
defeats the object of having an
anonymous newspaper on the greater web.

A way to announce sites anonymously would be a great addition.  And the
spider really does provide this, but not conveniently.



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RE: [freenet-support] how many existing ways to announce a new Freesite?

2003-12-09 Thread ron cox
hello im new too. your projectdoesnt sound stupid at all, and i wish ou 
success, but part of freenets anonymity is that it cannot be searched-- 
remember, searchers could be police ,censors,or self-appointed moral 
leaders.or even john ashcroft!


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Freesite?
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:28:58 +0800

i'm still a newbie in Freenet. Hope someone could give me a hand somehow.

as i know, current Freenet cannot be searched yet. One way to announce a 
new Freesite is adding an ActiveLink into an Index Page.

I'm not understand how do these Index Pages work? How does an index page 
notice a new Freesite's URI automatically?

besides index pages, is there anyway to announce a new Freesite, so that 
that Freesite is searchable using keywords, or categories?

i'm currently initializing a project on a new Freenet Publication Tool... 
and hope to find a better solutions to announce a new freesite.

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Re: [freenet-support] how many existing ways to announce a new Freesite?

2003-12-09 Thread S
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:28:58 +0800
"Stupid C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm not understand how do these Index Pages work? How does an index page 
> notice a new Freesite's URI automatically?

Usually when it's linked to from another Freesite somewhere, or when the
author announces it to the public. There is also at least one spider
available which, given a Freesite URI, will recurse through all links it
finds, thus spreading the content around and "discovering" newly linked
sites. It's in the "spider" board in Frost.

> besides index pages, is there anyway to announce a new Freesite, so that 
> that Freesite is searchable using keywords, or categories?

Frost has a "freesite-announce" board, and of the index maintainers
accept email and IIP chat (e.g. see the main page of YoYo). If you
aren't familiar with Frost, see . This
doesn't help with the keyword search issue, but it can get your Freesite
noticed.

> i'm currently initializing a project on a new Freenet Publication Tool... 
> and hope to find a better solutions to announce a new freesite.

Looking forward to seeing what you come up with!

-s
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[freenet-support] how many existing ways to announce a new Freesite?

2003-12-09 Thread Stupid C
i'm still a newbie in Freenet. Hope someone could give me a hand somehow.

as i know, current Freenet cannot be searched yet. One way to announce a new 
Freesite is adding an ActiveLink into an Index Page.

I'm not understand how do these Index Pages work? How does an index page 
notice a new Freesite's URI automatically?

besides index pages, is there anyway to announce a new Freesite, so that 
that Freesite is searchable using keywords, or categories?

i'm currently initializing a project on a new Freenet Publication Tool... 
and hope to find a better solutions to announce a new freesite.

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[freenet-support] Not receiving anything

2003-12-09 Thread Müller
Hi,

I have the problem that I can't receive any page from
the freenet. Whenever I click a link from the main
webinterface I immediately get a "Route not found"
error with the info that "Attempts were made to
contact 0 nodes". I am running build 5049 which I
downloaded using the update.sh shell script.

When I look on the node reference status page I have
17 "green" entries in the routing table. However there
is not a single incoming connection - all connections
are outgoing and there are at most 2 outgoing
connections per node.

My machine is connected directly to the internet with
a dynamic IP address changing every 24 hours. I set up
a dynamic hostname and put it into the freenet.conf
file. There is a firewall on the machine allowing any
outgoing connections, but blocking incoming
connections. I opened the one port that is configured
in the "listenPort" option in the freenet.conf file
for incoming tcp connections.

Is there any other port I need to open?

What about the "Spread freenet" option in the main
menu of the webinterface? When clicking this, it tries
to connect to my own machine on port 8891 -> which is
not open and thus fails. What is the "Spread freenet"
button good for?

On the list I read about "reseeding" a node. How do
you do this?

Any help appreciated...
Thomas

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: Adapating Freenet to NGRouting (from devlist)

2003-12-09 Thread Todd
This is the support list.  Your message is "devlist" material.

-todd


On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 06:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Toad wrote:
> 
> {snip}
> >==
> >Probabilistic Drop
> >==
> >Drop HTL, replace it with a fixed probability (1 in 25) of the request
> >DNFing spontaneously at any given node.
> {snip}
> 
> Umm.  Tell me to go stick my head in a bucket if I'm wrong but if you pick 1 in 25 
> as the figure, then a request still stands a 1% chance of making over 112 hops 
> without being DNF. ((24/25)^112~=0.010).
> 
> Wouldn't that significantly increase the overall traffic on the network?
> 
> Kevin.
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[freenet-support] Re: Adapating Freenet to NGRouting (from devlist)

2003-12-09 Thread Martin Stone Davis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Toad wrote:

{snip}

==
Probabilistic Drop
==
Drop HTL, replace it with a fixed probability (1 in 25) of the request
DNFing spontaneously at any given node.
{snip}

Umm.  Tell me to go stick my head in a bucket if I'm wrong but if you pick 1 in 25 as the figure, then a request still stands a 1% chance of making over 112 hops without being DNF. ((24/25)^112~=0.010).

Wouldn't that significantly increase the overall traffic on the network?

Kevin.
This mesage belongs on devl, not support.  And, there is a reply to this 
issue in "Virtual PD (was Re: Adapating Freenet to NGRouting)".

-Martin

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[freenet-support] Re: Adapating Freenet to NGRouting (from devlist)

2003-12-09 Thread kb
Toad wrote:

{snip}
>==
>Probabilistic Drop
>==
>Drop HTL, replace it with a fixed probability (1 in 25) of the request
>DNFing spontaneously at any given node.
{snip}

Umm.  Tell me to go stick my head in a bucket if I'm wrong but if you pick 1 in 25 as 
the figure, then a request still stands a 1% chance of making over 112 hops without 
being DNF. ((24/25)^112~=0.010).

Wouldn't that significantly increase the overall traffic on the network?

Kevin.

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RE: [freenet-support] Explanation for 'nibbles' taken out of icons?

2003-12-09 Thread Niklas Bergh
>1. First I get "Waiting for, etc". The search is fanning out, but
either I'm queued, or nothing has yet >been found?
Your request has gone out, your node is waiting for an answer from the
network (to deliver it to your browser)

>2. Brief bursts of, "Transferring data, etc", then back to
"Waiting...". Data was found at some
node, and delivered. Then the search continued?
Your browser received an answer from freenet, succesful or not, and then
started requestin the next item on the page. Number of simultaneuos
browser requests can be configured, the exact method varies from browser
to browser.

>3. Long periods of "Waiting...". Data has been found, and I'm queued?
Either your browser is serializing requests of your node are waiting for
an answer from the network.

>4. Some image icons get a 'white slash' through them. The data doesn't
exist at any of the
>available nodes?
Almost.. The data couldn't be located on any of the nodes queried..
Might be the same thing, might not..

>5. During long intervals of "Transferring...", a small nibble
disappears near
>the lower left corner of some of the image icons, one by one. The
search for the data
>linked to this particular icon has been exhausted; this image data is
not available?
No idea what those nibbles are..

>6. After a long period (an hour, or more), I get "Done". Perhaps a
dozen poster images
>have been received, but, when the nibble is missing from every
remaining image icon,
>the search for any data related to this freesite is over?
Right

>7. How does the 'nibble' differ from the 'white slash'?
Depending on the browser the white slash might broken image/image which
isn't present on the supplied URL/request timeout.. The nibble I don't
know anything about..

>8. Should one be patient enought to let freenet run at a site until
"Done" is
>reported, or is it a waste of time (and freenet resources) to let the
search go on for
>longer than, say, a minute? Ten minutes? An hour?
No.. There are built-in timeouts and stuff so those things will work out
automatically.

>9. Tomorrow, different nodes (and a new build - I'm using 5049 today)
may be available,
>so the attempt to download the poster page could be repeated, with
perhaps a different result.
Right.. And maybe the author of the site reinserted missing stuff or
maybe a different set of nodes reqceived the query

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RE: [freenet-support] Is there a user forum anywhere

2003-12-09 Thread Niklas Bergh
Or come visit in #freenet on irc.freenode.net

/N

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> 
> 
> > >Is there an English language forum anywhere on the WWW (or 
> elsewhere)
> > >where Freenet users can assist each other?
> > 
> > That might be too anonymity-compromising for a lot of 
> users. Why not 
> > use
> > Frost or maybe IIP?
> 
> For those who don't mind non-anonymous communication (and 
> have an account on Livejournal), there's a newly-created 
> freenet community on there:
> 
http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=freenet

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