[freenet-support] Freenet takes too long to start up
Hi, Am Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2006 22:53 schrieben Sie: [...] > Bizarre. > > The first time, it takes from 00:13:10 to 01:14:15 *the next day* (so > around 25 hours) to read half of the store. The second time it takes from > 01:18:04 to 03:11:33 (2 hours) to read the entire store. There's > something else going on here, no idea what. Does this happen often? > How's memory usage? The problem persists. Right now (17:30) the node is at "Reading store prior to shrink: 34%", the startup of the node was at 02:09 in the morning. There is nothing special running on that box (besides freenet), a few standard services (a webserver, a mailserver, a small postgres database...), but that's it. Memory usage is also pretty standard, with about 66 MiB of swap in use (which is nothing special fo a server machine.) Everything else on the machine is running normally, I don't even see any significant slowdown anywhere. (Even though freenet is using 99% CPU.) Anyone else got this problem? Guido -- Mailing list archives are not a proper form of documentation.
[freenet-support] Re: Welcome to the "Support" mailing list
irc.freenode.net is an IRC server, not a web server. You need to
download an IRC client first so you can connect to it. Once you have
connected to #freenet-refs , ask around for some node references. You
can add these to your node from your Darknet page
( http://127.0.0.1:/darknet/ ).
Note that this kludgish bootstrapping process is only necessary because
Freenet 0.7 is currently exclusively "darknet". This means manually
established connections; theoretically these are F2F ("friend-to-friend")
connections, and of course if you know anyone already on freenet,
connecting to them is the best option. The purpose of this is to build a
network which cannot be automatically mapped by an attacker (such as the
chinese government; once they've found all the nodes, they can block all
the nodes). Unfortunately most freenet users don't have any friends who
are already using Freenet. We will fix this shortly via an "opennet"
mechanism that allows people to get started quickly, but less securely,
without knowing anyone on Freenet. However opennet is not likely to be
ready for a few months, so I suggest that you get an IRC client, and get
some node references. You can get help from here, or from the #freenet
IRC channel on the same network.
On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 02:50:51PM +0100, Sarah wrote:
> On 28/10/06, Sarah wrote:
> >
> >Hello,
> >I am trying to work with the freenet project after hearing about it last
> >night on newnight! Am not very computer orientated though and am finding it
> >a bit difficult. I have down loaded the software, but when i try and access
> >http://irc.freenode.net/ to get connected (If you don't know anyone
> >running Freenet, visit #freenet-refs on irc.freenode.net and ask nicely to
> >exchange references with someone.) it wants Nagios Access code and
> >password,
> >what is this?
> >Thanks
> >
> >
> > On 28/10/06, support-request at freenetproject.org
> >
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> Welcome to the Support at freenetproject.org mailing list!
> >>
> >> To post to this list, send your email to:
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >> the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is:
> >>
> >> tombraider
> >>
> >> Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freenetproject.org mailing
> >> list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you
> >> prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to
> >> unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on
> >> your options page that will email your current password to you.
> >>
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[freenet-support] Re: Welcome to the "Support" mailing list
On 28/10/06, Sarah wrote: > > Hello, > I am trying to work with the freenet project after hearing about it last > night on newnight! Am not very computer orientated though and am finding it > a bit difficult. I have down loaded the software, but when i try and access > http://irc.freenode.net/ to get connected (If you don't know anyone > running Freenet, visit #freenet-refs on irc.freenode.net and ask nicely to > exchange references with someone.) it wants Nagios Access code and password, > what is this? > Thanks > > > On 28/10/06, support-request at freenetproject.org freenetproject.org> > wrote: > > > > Welcome to the Support at freenetproject.org mailing list! > > > > To post to this list, send your email to: > > > > support at freenetproject.org > > > > General information about the mailing list is at: > > > > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > > > > If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to > > or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your > > subscription page at: > > > > > > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/support/scarahwarah%40gmail.com > > > > > > You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: > > > > Support-request at freenetproject.org > > > > with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the > > quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. > > > > You must know your password to change your options (including changing > > the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: > > > > tombraider > > > > Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freenetproject.org mailing > > list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you > > prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to > > unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on > > your options page that will email your current password to you. > > > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20061028/9099dac8/attachment.html>
[freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Windoze XP?
Thank you for trying Freenet. Making Freenet work fully on Windows 98 would require significant effort. Windows 98 is no longer maintained by Microsoft even for critical security fixes. Running security software on top of an unmaintained (and therefore seriously insecure) operating system is self-defeating, although the risk can be reduced by not running IE and Outlook Express, running an anti-virus, and hiding behind a firewall. Nonetheless it is not behaviour we want to encourage. I recommend you either buy a copy of Windows XP or install linux (Ubuntu/Mandrake/etc). On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 11:01:06PM +0100, Richard McD. Bridge wrote: > You admit that freenet is less convenient (indeed won't autoinstall) with > Win 98SE. That is a shame since WinXP sends info back to Microsnot about > all sorts of things. You ahve just stopped me becoming a user. > > Yours sincerely > > Richard McD. Bridge -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20061028/53e60a90/attachment.pgp>
[freenet-support] Re: Welcome to the "Support" mailing list
You need to connect to irc.freenode.net with an IRC client, not your web browser. Try mirc, which is available here: http://www.mirc.com/get.html You could also (and I highly recommend this approach) try downloading Freenet 0.5 instead, which does not require you to manually gather node references. However, freenet 0.7 and 0.5 are two completely separate networks. There is no connection between them. However, there are still a lot of people on 0.5, as 0.7 is incomplete and, we feel, has quite a few flaws. Of course, most of the people on here will disagree with me on that...but the point is, both 0.5 and 0.7 have a large amount of users that trust them, I personally am a user of 0.5, and I think 0.5 is a LOT easier to get started with. Anyways, here's where you can get 0.5: http://freenetproject.org/download-old.html On 10/28/06, Sarah wrote: > > > > On 28/10/06, Sarah wrote: > > > > Hello, > > I am trying to work with the freenet project after hearing about it last > night on newnight! Am not very computer orientated though and am finding it > a bit difficult. I have down loaded the software, but when i try and access > http://irc.freenode.net/ to get connected (If you don't know anyone running > Freenet, visit #freenet-refs on irc.freenode.net and ask nicely to exchange > references with someone.) it wants Nagios Access code and password, what is > this? > > Thanks > > > > > > > > On 28/10/06, support-request at freenetproject.org < > support-request at freenetproject.org> wrote: > > > Welcome to the Support at freenetproject.org mailing list! > > > > > > To post to this list, send your email to: > > > > > > support at freenetproject.org > > > > > > General information about the mailing list is at: > > > > > > > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > > > > > > If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to > > > or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your > > > subscription page at: > > > > > > > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/support/scarahwarah%40gmail.com > > > > > > > > > You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: > > > > > > Support-request at freenetproject.org > > > > > > with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the > > > quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. > > > > > > You must know your password to change your options (including changing > > > the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: > > > > > > tombraider > > > > > > Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freenetproject.org mailing > > > list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you > > > prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to > > > unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on > > > your options page that will email your current password to you. > > > > > > > > > > ___ > Support mailing list > Support at freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or > mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > > -- http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesid=0t=57;>http://sfx-images.mozilla.org/affiliates/Buttons/180x60/blank.gif"/>
[freenet-support] [Tech] Windoze XP?
You admit that freenet is less convenient (indeed won't autoinstall) with Win 98SE. That is a shame since WinXP sends info back to Microsnot about all sorts of things. You ahve just stopped me becoming a user. Yours sincerely Richard McD. Bridge This Email message is from MacDonald Bridge, solicitors, Forge House, High Street, Lower Stoke, Rochester, Kent ME3 9RD. We are regulated by the Law Society and subject to its code of conduct available at www.lawsoc.org. Richard Bridge's roll number is 109416. Our telephone is (+44/0) 1634 27 27 20 and the fax is (+44/0) 1634 27 27 21. This message is for the named recipient(s) or addressees only. It may contain privileged or confidential information. Copyright is reserved. Please do not use, copy, or disclose this email in any way which we have not authorised. If you should not have received it, please delete it without printing and let us know. No liability is accepted for any computer virus caught by any recipient. We run PGP. If you require encrypted or signed email please ask for our public key. We run a spam filter so you are advised to request read receipts for emails. We only act for clients on the terms of our standard "client care" letters. Nothing in this email varies any part of any "client care" letter, or assumes any liability responsibility or duty unless expressly stated to do so. We do not accept service by email or fax unless expressly agreed. ___ Tech mailing list Tech at freenetproject.org http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech
[freenet-support] [Tech] Windoze XP?
You admit that freenet is less convenient (indeed won't autoinstall) with Win 98SE. That is a shame since WinXP sends info back to Microsnot about all sorts of things. You ahve just stopped me becoming a user. Yours sincerely Richard McD. Bridge This Email message is from MacDonald Bridge, solicitors, Forge House, High Street, Lower Stoke, Rochester, Kent ME3 9RD. We are regulated by the Law Society and subject to its code of conduct available at www.lawsoc.org. Richard Bridge's roll number is 109416. Our telephone is (+44/0) 1634 27 27 20 and the fax is (+44/0) 1634 27 27 21. This message is for the named recipient(s) or addressees only. It may contain privileged or confidential information. Copyright is reserved. Please do not use, copy, or disclose this email in any way which we have not authorised. If you should not have received it, please delete it without printing and let us know. No liability is accepted for any computer virus caught by any recipient. We run PGP. If you require encrypted or signed email please ask for our public key. We run a spam filter so you are advised to request read receipts for emails. We only act for clients on the terms of our standard client care letters. Nothing in this email varies any part of any client care letter, or assumes any liability responsibility or duty unless expressly stated to do so. We do not accept service by email or fax unless expressly agreed. ___ Tech mailing list Tech@freenetproject.org http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Windoze XP?
Thank you for trying Freenet. Making Freenet work fully on Windows 98 would require significant effort. Windows 98 is no longer maintained by Microsoft even for critical security fixes. Running security software on top of an unmaintained (and therefore seriously insecure) operating system is self-defeating, although the risk can be reduced by not running IE and Outlook Express, running an anti-virus, and hiding behind a firewall. Nonetheless it is not behaviour we want to encourage. I recommend you either buy a copy of Windows XP or install linux (Ubuntu/Mandrake/etc). On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 11:01:06PM +0100, Richard McD. Bridge wrote: You admit that freenet is less convenient (indeed won't autoinstall) with Win 98SE. That is a shame since WinXP sends info back to Microsnot about all sorts of things. You ahve just stopped me becoming a user. Yours sincerely Richard McD. Bridge signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Welcome to the Support mailing list
On 28/10/06, Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am trying to work with the freenet project after hearing about it last night on newnight!Am not very computer orientated though and am finding it a bit difficult. I have down loaded the software, but when i try and access http://irc.freenode.net/to get connected (If you don't know anyone running Freenet, visit #freenet-refs on irc.freenode.net and ask nicely to exchange references with someone.)it wants Nagios Access code and password, what is this? Thanks On 28/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome to the Support@freenetproject.org mailing list!To post to this list, send your email to:support@freenetproject.org General information about the mailing list is at:http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch toor from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit yoursubscription page at: http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/support/scarahwarah%40gmail.comYou can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include thequotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe.It is:tombraiderNormally, Mailman will remind you of your freenetproject.org mailinglist passwords once every month, although you can disable this if youprefer.This reminder will also include instructions on how tounsubscribe or change your account options.There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Re: Welcome to the Support mailing list
You need to connect to irc.freenode.net with an IRC client, not your web browser. Try mirc, which is available here: http://www.mirc.com/get.html You could also (and I highly recommend this approach) try downloading Freenet 0.5 instead, which does not require you to manually gather node references. However, freenet 0.7 and 0.5 are two completely separate networks. There is no connection between them. However, there are still a lot of people on 0.5, as 0.7 is incomplete and, we feel, has quite a few flaws. Of course, most of the people on here will disagree with me on that...but the point is, both 0.5 and 0.7 have a large amount of users that trust them, I personally am a user of 0.5, and I think 0.5 is a LOT easier to get started with. Anyways, here's where you can get 0.5: http://freenetproject.org/download-old.html On 10/28/06, Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28/10/06, Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am trying to work with the freenet project after hearing about it last night on newnight! Am not very computer orientated though and am finding it a bit difficult. I have down loaded the software, but when i try and access http://irc.freenode.net/ to get connected (If you don't know anyone running Freenet, visit #freenet-refs on irc.freenode.net and ask nicely to exchange references with someone.) it wants Nagios Access code and password, what is this? Thanks On 28/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome to the Support@freenetproject.org mailing list! To post to this list, send your email to: support@freenetproject.org General information about the mailing list is at: http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/support/scarahwarah%40gmail.com You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: tombraider Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freenetproject.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- HTML a href=http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=0amp;t=57;img border=0 alt=Get Firefox! title=Get Firefox! src=http://sfx-images.mozilla.org/affiliates/Buttons/180x60/blank.gif//a ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Re: Welcome to the Support mailing list
irc.freenode.net is an IRC server, not a web server. You need to download an IRC client first so you can connect to it. Once you have connected to #freenet-refs , ask around for some node references. You can add these to your node from your Darknet page ( http://127.0.0.1:/darknet/ ). Note that this kludgish bootstrapping process is only necessary because Freenet 0.7 is currently exclusively darknet. This means manually established connections; theoretically these are F2F (friend-to-friend) connections, and of course if you know anyone already on freenet, connecting to them is the best option. The purpose of this is to build a network which cannot be automatically mapped by an attacker (such as the chinese government; once they've found all the nodes, they can block all the nodes). Unfortunately most freenet users don't have any friends who are already using Freenet. We will fix this shortly via an opennet mechanism that allows people to get started quickly, but less securely, without knowing anyone on Freenet. However opennet is not likely to be ready for a few months, so I suggest that you get an IRC client, and get some node references. You can get help from here, or from the #freenet IRC channel on the same network. On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 02:50:51PM +0100, Sarah wrote: On 28/10/06, Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am trying to work with the freenet project after hearing about it last night on newnight! Am not very computer orientated though and am finding it a bit difficult. I have down loaded the software, but when i try and access http://irc.freenode.net/ to get connected (If you don't know anyone running Freenet, visit #freenet-refs on irc.freenode.net and ask nicely to exchange references with someone.) it wants Nagios Access code and password, what is this? Thanks On 28/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome to the Support@freenetproject.org mailing list! To post to this list, send your email to: support@freenetproject.org General information about the mailing list is at: http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/support/scarahwarah%40gmail.com You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: tombraider Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freenetproject.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet takes too long to start up
Hi, Am Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2006 22:53 schrieben Sie: [...] Bizarre. The first time, it takes from 00:13:10 to 01:14:15 *the next day* (so around 25 hours) to read half of the store. The second time it takes from 01:18:04 to 03:11:33 (2 hours) to read the entire store. There's something else going on here, no idea what. Does this happen often? How's memory usage? The problem persists. Right now (17:30) the node is at Reading store prior to shrink: 34%, the startup of the node was at 02:09 in the morning. There is nothing special running on that box (besides freenet), a few standard services (a webserver, a mailserver, a small postgres database...), but that's it. Memory usage is also pretty standard, with about 66 MiB of swap in use (which is nothing special fo a server machine.) Everything else on the machine is running normally, I don't even see any significant slowdown anywhere. (Even though freenet is using 99% CPU.) Anyone else got this problem? Guido -- Mailing list archives are not a proper form of documentation. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
