[freenet-support] Houston, We have a problem

2007-02-01 Thread Mr. Flibble
> So this is just an "all peers are backed off frequently after 
> the load 
> limiting changes" report?

I have no idea :(

> Or is there a definite problem with nodes not connecting or 
> even being 
> backed off?

The usual nodes seem to be reconnecting.
In the last couple of  days, I'm up to 3-4  nodes connected (with 4-8 backed
off) which seems better. I haven't changed anything here, so maybe someone
else could have given their nodes more bandwidth?




[freenet-support] Freenet source and the GPL

2007-02-01 Thread Matthew Toseland
Answered on chat at freenetproject.org. Short version: We do publish
source.

On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 09:10:26PM -, bridge0507_1 at 
ufaMAQJPPswIdhaO_YUiPBCY1lU.panta-rhei.eu.org wrote:
> 'Anonymous' on freenet thinks I'm a troll, however My question about 
> freenet source availability is genuinely sincere.  Aside from that, I gotta 
> admit that "Boob Routing" sure sounds appealing!
> 
> > - bridge0507_1 at ufaMAQJPPswIdhaO_YUiPBCY1lU - 2007.01.30 - 
> > 14:22:10GMT -
> >
> > What I find interesting is that all this backandforth flap about freenet 
> > source and it's availability is that I have not yet seen one word about it 
> > by Toad or Ian.  Where do they stand on this?
> >
> > Why can't each release have an accompanying source tarball?  Is not their 
> > subversion thingy capable of providing this?  If it is not, then I suggest 
> > that it's broken by design (or the lack thereof).
> >
> > - Anonymous - 2007.01.30 - 14:59:13GMT -
> >
> > Ian (sanity) and Matthew (toad) have better things to do than to read Frost 
> > messages written by trolls.
> >
> > - Anonymous - 2007.01.30 - 20:28:51GMT -
> >
> > Like nothing.
> >
> > - Anonymous - 2007.01.30 - 21:21:16GMT -
> >
> > Not true, they are off on sabbatical at the titty bar with Freenet donation 
> > money to meticulously plan the 'theoretical foundations' of the 0.7 network 
> > between lap dances.
> >
> > - Anonymous - 2007.01.30 - 22:40:07GMT -
> >
> > a) It's a new design called "Boob Routing".
> > b) Ian is gay.
> >
> > - Hahahaha at LsMVnhN_BvN2ybL7Wt_cf_MUIvg - 2007.01.31 - 
> > 01:39:02GMT -
> >
> > ROTFLMAO!
> 
> 
> --
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> nation.  We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our
> homeland."
> 
> - Adolf Hitler, proposing the creation of the Gestapo in Nazi Germany.
> - George Bush, Talking about the Homeland Security Act and the Patriot Act.
> 
> "The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become
> the instruments of tyranny at home."
> 
> James Madison, fourth president of
> the United States
> 
> I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the
> death, your right to say it. - Voltaire
> 
> "There are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, 
> ammo. Use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt
> 
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[freenet-support] Houston, We have a problem

2007-02-01 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 06:59:19PM +, Volodya wrote:
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> > Possibly. But perhaps it's just "backoff sucks". Several of the simulations 
> > seemed to 
> > suggest this!
> 
> What do you mean here, please.

Many of the simulations showed that throttling without backoff was
superior to throttling with backoff. Backoff is intended to prevent
throttling from throttling the whole network down to nothing because of
a small number of very slow nodes causing lots of failures when too many
requests are routed to them.
> 
> - Volodya
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet source and the GPL

2007-02-01 Thread Matthew Toseland
Answered on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Short version: We do publish
source.

On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 09:10:26PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 'Anonymous' on freenet thinks I'm a troll, however My question about 
 freenet source availability is genuinely sincere.  Aside from that, I gotta 
 admit that Boob Routing sure sounds appealing!
 
  - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 2007.01.30 - 14:22:10GMT -
 
  What I find interesting is that all this backandforth flap about freenet 
  source and it's availability is that I have not yet seen one word about it 
  by Toad or Ian.  Where do they stand on this?
 
  Why can't each release have an accompanying source tarball?  Is not their 
  subversion thingy capable of providing this?  If it is not, then I suggest 
  that it's broken by design (or the lack thereof).
 
  - Anonymous - 2007.01.30 - 14:59:13GMT -
 
  Ian (sanity) and Matthew (toad) have better things to do than to read Frost 
  messages written by trolls.
 
  - Anonymous - 2007.01.30 - 20:28:51GMT -
 
  Like nothing.
 
  - Anonymous - 2007.01.30 - 21:21:16GMT -
 
  Not true, they are off on sabbatical at the titty bar with Freenet donation 
  money to meticulously plan the 'theoretical foundations' of the 0.7 network 
  between lap dances.
 
  - Anonymous - 2007.01.30 - 22:40:07GMT -
 
  a) It's a new design called Boob Routing.
  b) Ian is gay.
 
  - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 2007.01.31 - 01:39:02GMT -
 
  ROTFLMAO!
 
 
 --
 An evil exists that threatens every man, woman, and child of this great
 nation.  We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our
 homeland.
 
 - Adolf Hitler, proposing the creation of the Gestapo in Nazi Germany.
 - George Bush, Talking about the Homeland Security Act and the Patriot Act.
 
 The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become
 the instruments of tyranny at home.
 
 James Madison, fourth president of
 the United States
 
 I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the
 death, your right to say it. - Voltaire
 
 There are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, 
 ammo. Use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt
 
 
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Re: [freenet-support] Houston, We have a problem

2007-02-01 Thread Mr. Flibble
 So this is just an all peers are backed off frequently after 
 the load 
 limiting changes report?

I have no idea :(

 Or is there a definite problem with nodes not connecting or 
 even being 
 backed off?

The usual nodes seem to be reconnecting.
In the last couple of  days, I'm up to 3-4  nodes connected (with 4-8 backed
off) which seems better. I haven't changed anything here, so maybe someone
else could have given their nodes more bandwidth?

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Re: [freenet-support] Houston, We have a problem

2007-02-01 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 06:59:19PM +, Volodya wrote:
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 Hash: SHA1
 
  Possibly. But perhaps it's just backoff sucks. Several of the simulations 
  seemed to 
  suggest this!
 
 What do you mean here, please.

Many of the simulations showed that throttling without backoff was
superior to throttling with backoff. Backoff is intended to prevent
throttling from throttling the whole network down to nothing because of
a small number of very slow nodes causing lots of failures when too many
requests are routed to them.
 
 - Volodya


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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet source and the GPL

2007-02-01 Thread bridge0507_1
'Anonymous' on freenet thinks I'm a troll, however My question about 
freenet source availability is genuinely sincere.  Aside from that, I gotta 
admit that Boob Routing sure sounds appealing!

 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 2007.01.30 - 14:22:10GMT -

 What I find interesting is that all this backandforth flap about freenet 
 source and it's availability is that I have not yet seen one word about it by 
 Toad or Ian.  Where do they stand on this?

 Why can't each release have an accompanying source tarball?  Is not their 
 subversion thingy capable of providing this?  If it is not, then I suggest 
 that it's broken by design (or the lack thereof).

 - Anonymous - 2007.01.30 - 14:59:13GMT -

 Ian (sanity) and Matthew (toad) have better things to do than to read Frost 
 messages written by trolls.

 - Anonymous - 2007.01.30 - 20:28:51GMT -

 Like nothing.

 - Anonymous - 2007.01.30 - 21:21:16GMT -

 Not true, they are off on sabbatical at the titty bar with Freenet donation 
 money to meticulously plan the 'theoretical foundations' of the 0.7 network 
 between lap dances.

 - Anonymous - 2007.01.30 - 22:40:07GMT -

 a) It's a new design called Boob Routing.
 b) Ian is gay.

 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 2007.01.31 - 01:39:02GMT -

 ROTFLMAO!


--
An evil exists that threatens every man, woman, and child of this great
nation.  We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our
homeland.

- Adolf Hitler, proposing the creation of the Gestapo in Nazi Germany.
- George Bush, Talking about the Homeland Security Act and the Patriot Act.

The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become
the instruments of tyranny at home.

James Madison, fourth president of
the United States

I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the
death, your right to say it. - Voltaire

There are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, 
ammo. Use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt


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