Re: [freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 01:48:36 +, Toad wrote: Heh. That's called an RNF. It stands for Route Not Found. And no, you don't need FUQID to download files from freenet ...but it works much better than anything else I've tried. :-) I thought you didn't have it? :) I had left the Mozilla window with the RNF message open over night, and voila, the next morning the prog was downloaded. Woah. You're happy with the performance of freenet? This cannot happen, it doesn't make sense, it's against all Newsbyte's assertions, the sky is falling... :) Still, considering the first two or three days, he does have a point. On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 21:23:52 -0500, Nicholas Sturm wrote: He can't be on anything below DSL or he is happy on a Commodore. Yes, I'm on 2 Mbit DSL. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 17:35:48 +, Toad wrote: That has generally been true of freenet in the past, unfortunately. We have made some progress, but nodes not working well for newbies is expected. That's OK, as long as the newbie knows what to expect. I think the site says something about a few hours, which hasn't quite been my experience... Oh, and the default size of the data store should be increased. A lot. Heh. That's called an RNF. It stands for Route Not Found. And no, you don't need FUQID to download files from freenet ...but it works much better than anything else I've tried. :-) The whole experience just isn't very newbie-friendly. Very probably. Anything that learns can't start up instantly. We've tried to improve it though, and maybe we can get a bit further with that. And of course, the overall network performance is a lot lower than it ought to be. It's not only performance. For example, the prominently featured Freenet Help Index links to an old version of Frost, which is why I couldn't get it to work first. Possibly. But if we distributed Frost, for example, then we get a lot closer to filesharing, which may have legal ramifications - especially with Frost's current initial boards selection! You have a point there... Thanks for your answers, all in all I'm happy now with the performance of Freenet, I've given it 6GB to store data and it already uses 1.5GB. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of the project
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 11:05:00 +0100, Newsbyte wrote: 300MB is very little, to be honest. But of course it depends on the size of your HD. Normally, it is (should be) set to 10% of your free HD-space. The default was 256MB, but the HD I installed Freenet on only had 1 GB free... Now, may I ask you if you feel I have helped/supported you with my posts? I ask that, because I just got emailed by Ian saying he kicked me out of the project (well, at least he disabled my freenetproject account) because of my first post to you. I'm sorry to read that. Yes, I thought your posts were helpful, after all when someone says yes it is slow then I can stop worrying about my configuration. I got Frost running now, thanks to everyone here. Turns out I had the version for Java 1.5 but my system has Java 1.4... should I upgrade? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:37:52 +0100, Someone wrote: Even on ADSL it isn't so slow. Shure it is much slower than browsing a normal Website. But this I do expect when the data has to pass through multiple nodes, with maybe even some ISDN or 56K users in the chain. I guess it depends on how long you had Freenet running, and how big the data store is. On the first day, it was almost unusable for me. Now it's better, although as I write this, all I get is The network is busy, please try again later while trying to download FUQID, a program one seems to absolutely need to download from Freenet... The whole experience just isn't very newbie-friendly. A lot of people are probably giving up after a few hours because they don't feel 'geeky' enough. For a start, I think it would be good to have a current version of the important programs on the http://www.freenetproject.org/index.php?page=download page. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 00:27:44 +0100, Newsbyte wrote: Frustrating? Can't be! It has much improved, *much* I say. If you don't believe me, ask toad and Ian!Even the simulations say so! We have NIO and NGR now, so things definately have improved for noobs like you, whatever you may think about it yourself! So you're saying it should be faster? But even when I used the Freenet gateways, they were very slow. build do you use? What OS? What JVM? Win2k, I just downloaded the program complete with the Java machine from http://www.freenetproject.org/index.php?page=download About says: Version 0.5.2.8 How many Open Connections do you have? I have no idea. Do you have NAT, are you behind a firewall?The last question will be 'yes' to which the answer will be: 'oh, then it's probably that. You have to punch a whole in your firewall and set the NAT right, and then Freenet will work like a charm (a level-2-in-Morrowind one). There you go! I only have a software firewall. I've turned it off for now, no difference so far. If the firewall was in the way, wouldn't it block everything, instead of slowing it down? Thanks! Clueless Newbie ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Is it always this slow?
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 01:39:54 +0100, Newsbyte wrote: Actually, I was being sarcastic, which you may not have noticed, being a newbie. OIC. :-) version. The version is one thing, the build something else. It should be 5100 (you can see that when you open fproxy), which it probably is. Yes it is. OpenConnections you can see on the start to (left), with fproxy, though you need to go into advance mode (upper right, I believe) first. Oh, that's interesting. Connections open (Inbound/Outbound/Limit) 89 (43/46/200) Transfers active (Transmitting/Receiving) 41 (19/22) Is that good or bad? Interestingly, even that many connections use very little of my bandwidth. BTW, how big should the cache, or 'store' be? I guess the 300 MB I've given it are not nearly enough. Anyway, feel free to snoop around at www.freenethelp.org, which has become quite an elaborate helpsitewhich isn't all that surprising, I guess ;-). Thanks for your help. Well, Freenet seems to be working, or maybe limping... but Frost still doesn't get any messages. Is this program even being used? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Re: Is it always this slow?
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 03:14:52 +0100, Jose M.Arnesto wrote: Which version of Frost are you running? You said in an earlier post that you were seeing error messages on the console and that makes me think that perhaps you are using an outdated version. The latest release was 22-Nov-2004 and you can find it here: http://jtcfrost.sourceforge.net (look in the download section). Ah yes, that was probably the reason. I had downloaded the version from the Freenet Help index, thinking that would be up to date. Ho hum... :-) Download it, install it and let's see what happens then. Strange things happen: I click on Frost.bat and a window of Java Virtual Machine pops up saying Could not find the main class. Program will exit! Well, I'll worry about that tomorrow, thanks and good night! ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
