[freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1

2008-08-07 Thread Julien Cornuwel 
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Matthew Toseland a ?crit :
> On Monday 04 August 2008 15:46, Julien Cornuwel wrote:
>> Ian Clarke a ?crit :
>>> Setting aside the fact that this guy is clearly an asshole, does
>>> anyone understand what problem he is running into here?
>>>
>>> Ian.
>> http://ungoth.com/blog/
>>
>> His website has been viewed 85 times. I don't think we have to be afraid
>> of loosing users because of him ;)
>>
>> Anyway, he says one valuable thing in his "review", the installer should
>> detect buggy JVMs and tell the user. Is it possible ?
> 
> I thought that that was exactly what he was complaining about: he thought he 
> had installed sun java, the installer disagreed, therefore it must be the 
> installer's fault.

Oh ? I didn't know the installer already did this test. Then, I don't
see what we can do more...
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Re: [freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1

2008-08-07 Thread Julien Cornuwel 
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Matthew Toseland a écrit :
 On Monday 04 August 2008 15:46, Julien Cornuwel wrote:
 Ian Clarke a écrit :
 Setting aside the fact that this guy is clearly an asshole, does
 anyone understand what problem he is running into here?

 Ian.
 http://ungoth.com/blog/

 His website has been viewed 85 times. I don't think we have to be afraid
 of loosing users because of him ;)

 Anyway, he says one valuable thing in his review, the installer should
 detect buggy JVMs and tell the user. Is it possible ?
 
 I thought that that was exactly what he was complaining about: he thought he 
 had installed sun java, the installer disagreed, therefore it must be the 
 installer's fault.

Oh ? I didn't know the installer already did this test. Then, I don't
see what we can do more...
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[freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1

2008-08-06 Thread Matthew Toseland 
On Monday 04 August 2008 15:46, Julien Cornuwel wrote:
> Ian Clarke a ?crit :
> > Setting aside the fact that this guy is clearly an asshole, does
> > anyone understand what problem he is running into here?
> >
> > Ian.
> 
> http://ungoth.com/blog/
> 
> His website has been viewed 85 times. I don't think we have to be afraid
> of loosing users because of him ;)
> 
> Anyway, he says one valuable thing in his "review", the installer should
> detect buggy JVMs and tell the user. Is it possible ?

I thought that that was exactly what he was complaining about: he thought he 
had installed sun java, the installer disagreed, therefore it must be the 
installer's fault.
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Re: [freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1

2008-08-05 Thread Matthew Toseland 
On Monday 04 August 2008 15:46, Julien Cornuwel wrote:
 Ian Clarke a écrit :
  Setting aside the fact that this guy is clearly an asshole, does
  anyone understand what problem he is running into here?
 
  Ian.
 
 http://ungoth.com/blog/
 
 His website has been viewed 85 times. I don't think we have to be afraid
 of loosing users because of him ;)
 
 Anyway, he says one valuable thing in his review, the installer should
 detect buggy JVMs and tell the user. Is it possible ?

I thought that that was exactly what he was complaining about: he thought he 
had installed sun java, the installer disagreed, therefore it must be the 
installer's fault.


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[freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1

2008-08-04 Thread Julien Cornuwel 
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Ian Clarke a ?crit :
> Setting aside the fact that this guy is clearly an asshole, does
> anyone understand what problem he is running into here?
> 
> Ian.

http://ungoth.com/blog/

His website has been viewed 85 times. I don't think we have to be afraid
of loosing users because of him ;)

Anyway, he says one valuable thing in his "review", the installer should
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[freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1

2008-08-04 Thread bqz69 
How to download and install freenet

I am using KDE and ubuntu 8.04.
I have had freenet installed during the last years on earlier versions of 
ubuntu without any problems - still waiting for a way to get friendly nodes 
automatic, so freenet can be properly anonymous to use *humor*.

I installed freenet yesterday:

$ sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre

$ sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun

mkdir /home/my_username/freenet (freenet with small "f")

cd ~/freenet  (equals cd /home/my_username/freenet)

$ wget http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/new_installer.jar
(that downloads "new_installer.jar" into the "~/freenet" directory)
(see http://freenetproject.org/download.html)

$ java -jar new_installer.jar
(installs the "new_installer.jar")
I followed the wizard(see http://freenetproject.org/install.html)

Then I had freenet installed in ~/Freenet

To stop, start or check wheter freenet is running I do:

cd Freenet
./run.sh stop

cd Freenet
./run.sh start

cd Freenet
./run.sh status

http://127.0.0.1:/
(this is where freenet is running in firefox - you have main menus top left on 
that page)

http://freenetproject.org/lists.html
(here you have freenet mailing lists)

http://freenetproject.org/connect.html
(here you can read about how to connect to freenet nodes)

http://dark-code.bulix.org/
(here is the bulix pastebin)

irc.freenode.net - #freenet
(here is where you can get some help from other freenet people)

Hope above hints might help somebody  :-)
++

On Friday 01 August 2008 18.51.21 Volodya wrote:
> Ian Clarke wrote:
> > Setting aside the fact that this guy is clearly an asshole, does
> > anyone understand what problem he is running into here?
> >
> > Ian.
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Don Lee  wrote:
> >> The installer should not attempt an install if there's a serious
> >> problem.
> >>
> >> I don't see a fix for this and I've already got a "good" JVM, right
> >> from SUN. Still, I reinstalled JVM and freenet still fails.
> >>
> >> I've tried to install freenet several times on several machines over
> >> the last two years.
> >>
> >> My opinion is that it's total shite.
> >>
> >> It has never worked, and will never work.
> >>
> >> Back to TOR, which works...
> >>
> >> Goodbye Fakenet.
>
> He mentions that he tried to install Sun Java from Sun's website. In my
> experience on Ubuntu Sun's installation does everything possible to put
> itself in locations where it will not be found.
>
> Simply reinstalling it won't do much good, one must ensure that all the
> links point to where they need to point to.
>
> Also you have given the dude a wrong link i think:
>  >>When everything is OK, restart a fresh install by clicking on this link
>  >> http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/mac/freenet.jnlp
>
> That's /mac/ at the end of the path there, he says he uses Kubuntu.
>
> Or it can be something completely different...
>- Volodya

Re: [freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1

2008-08-04 Thread Volodya 
Ian Clarke wrote:
 Setting aside the fact that this guy is clearly an asshole, does
 anyone understand what problem he is running into here?
 
 Ian.
 
 On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Don Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The installer should not attempt an install if there's a serious problem.

 I don't see a fix for this and I've already got a good JVM, right
 from SUN. Still, I reinstalled JVM and freenet still fails.

 I've tried to install freenet several times on several machines over
 the last two years.

 My opinion is that it's total shite.

 It has never worked, and will never work.

 Back to TOR, which works...

 Goodbye Fakenet.

He mentions that he tried to install Sun Java from Sun's website. In my 
experience on Ubuntu Sun's installation does everything possible to put itself 
in locations where it will not be found.

Simply reinstalling it won't do much good, one must ensure that all the links 
point to where they need to point to.

Also you have given the dude a wrong link i think:
 When everything is OK, restart a fresh install by clicking on this link
  http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/mac/freenet.jnlp

That's /mac/ at the end of the path there, he says he uses Kubuntu.

Or it can be something completely different...
   - Volodya

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Re: [freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1

2008-08-04 Thread bqz69 
How to download and install freenet

I am using KDE and ubuntu 8.04.
I have had freenet installed during the last years on earlier versions of 
ubuntu without any problems - still waiting for a way to get friendly nodes 
automatic, so freenet can be properly anonymous to use *humor*.

I installed freenet yesterday:

$ sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre

$ sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun

mkdir /home/my_username/freenet (freenet with small f)

cd ~/freenet  (equals cd /home/my_username/freenet)

$ wget http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/new_installer.jar
(that downloads new_installer.jar into the ~/freenet directory)
(see http://freenetproject.org/download.html)

$ java -jar new_installer.jar
(installs the new_installer.jar)
I followed the wizard(see http://freenetproject.org/install.html)

Then I had freenet installed in ~/Freenet

To stop, start or check wheter freenet is running I do:

cd Freenet
./run.sh stop

cd Freenet
./run.sh start

cd Freenet
./run.sh status

http://127.0.0.1:/
(this is where freenet is running in firefox - you have main menus top left on 
that page)

http://freenetproject.org/lists.html
(here you have freenet mailing lists)

http://freenetproject.org/connect.html
(here you can read about how to connect to freenet nodes)

http://dark-code.bulix.org/
(here is the bulix pastebin)

irc.freenode.net - #freenet
(here is where you can get some help from other freenet people)

Hope above hints might help somebody  :-)
++

On Friday 01 August 2008 18.51.21 Volodya wrote:
 Ian Clarke wrote:
  Setting aside the fact that this guy is clearly an asshole, does
  anyone understand what problem he is running into here?
 
  Ian.
 
  On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Don Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The installer should not attempt an install if there's a serious
  problem.
 
  I don't see a fix for this and I've already got a good JVM, right
  from SUN. Still, I reinstalled JVM and freenet still fails.
 
  I've tried to install freenet several times on several machines over
  the last two years.
 
  My opinion is that it's total shite.
 
  It has never worked, and will never work.
 
  Back to TOR, which works...
 
  Goodbye Fakenet.

 He mentions that he tried to install Sun Java from Sun's website. In my
 experience on Ubuntu Sun's installation does everything possible to put
 itself in locations where it will not be found.

 Simply reinstalling it won't do much good, one must ensure that all the
 links point to where they need to point to.

 Also you have given the dude a wrong link i think:
  When everything is OK, restart a fresh install by clicking on this link
   http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/mac/freenet.jnlp

 That's /mac/ at the end of the path there, he says he uses Kubuntu.

 Or it can be something completely different...
- Volodya


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[freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1

2008-08-02 Thread Matthew Toseland 
On Saturday 02 August 2008 10:38, Roberto wrote:
> It could eliminate so much troubles if the installer let you choose
> graphically a "valid" JDK in the fist window, like Netbeans installer.

Any clue how to implement that?
> 
> Roberto
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[freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1

2008-08-02 Thread Roberto 
It could eliminate so much troubles if the installer let you choose
graphically a "valid" JDK in the fist window, like Netbeans installer.

Roberto

2008/8/1 Julien Cornuwel :
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>> anyone understand what problem he is running into here?
>>
>> Ian.
>
> I'd say that he installed sun's JVM but didn't choose to use it with
> java-update-alternatives. He never answered my question on that point.
>
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Re: [freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1

2008-08-02 Thread Roberto 
It could eliminate so much troubles if the installer let you choose
graphically a valid JDK in the fist window, like Netbeans installer.

Roberto

2008/8/1 Julien Cornuwel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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 Setting aside the fact that this guy is clearly an asshole, does
 anyone understand what problem he is running into here?

 Ian.

 I'd say that he installed sun's JVM but didn't choose to use it with
 java-update-alternatives. He never answered my question on that point.

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Re: [freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1

2008-08-02 Thread Matthew Toseland 
On Saturday 02 August 2008 10:38, Roberto wrote:
 It could eliminate so much troubles if the installer let you choose
 graphically a valid JDK in the fist window, like Netbeans installer.

Any clue how to implement that?
 
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  Setting aside the fact that this guy is clearly an asshole, does
  anyone understand what problem he is running into here?
 
  Ian.
 
  I'd say that he installed sun's JVM but didn't choose to use it with
  java-update-alternatives. He never answered my question on that point.
 
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2008-08-01 Thread Julien Cornuwel 
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Ian Clarke a ?crit :
> Setting aside the fact that this guy is clearly an asshole, does
> anyone understand what problem he is running into here?
> 
> Ian.

I'd say that he installed sun's JVM but didn't choose to use it with
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[freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1

2008-08-01 Thread Volodya 
Ian Clarke wrote:
> Setting aside the fact that this guy is clearly an asshole, does
> anyone understand what problem he is running into here?
> 
> Ian.
> 
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Don Lee  wrote:
>> The installer should not attempt an install if there's a serious problem.
>>
>> I don't see a fix for this and I've already got a "good" JVM, right
>> from SUN. Still, I reinstalled JVM and freenet still fails.
>>
>> I've tried to install freenet several times on several machines over
>> the last two years.
>>
>> My opinion is that it's total shite.
>>
>> It has never worked, and will never work.
>>
>> Back to TOR, which works...
>>
>> Goodbye Fakenet.

He mentions that he tried to install Sun Java from Sun's website. In my 
experience on Ubuntu Sun's installation does everything possible to put itself 
in locations where it will not be found.

Simply reinstalling it won't do much good, one must ensure that all the links 
point to where they need to point to.

Also you have given the dude a wrong link i think:
 >>When everything is OK, restart a fresh install by clicking on this link
 >> http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/mac/freenet.jnlp

That's /mac/ at the end of the path there, he says he uses Kubuntu.

Or it can be something completely different...
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[freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1

2008-08-01 Thread Volodya 
Don Lee wrote:
> The installer should not attempt an install if there's a serious problem.
> 
> I don't see a fix for this and I've already got a "good" JVM, right
> from SUN. Still, I reinstalled JVM and freenet still fails.
> 
> I've tried to install freenet several times on several machines over
> the last two years.
> 
> My opinion is that it's total shite.
> 
> It has never worked, and will never work.
> 
> Back to TOR, which works...
> 
> Goodbye Fakenet.

Good bye.

It is interesting though that you compare Freenet to Tor, which are 
significantly different in what they achieve (former is censorship resistance, 
latter is anonymous web browsing). I have a feeling that you have misunderstood 
what Freenet does, it does *not* allow you to browse the regular web 
anonymously, it allows you to publish information without the possibility of 
censorship (even you cannot take it down).

This makes me believe that you simply tried to do something with Freenet that 
it 
wasn't designed to do, hence it didn't "work". But then what do i know, i boil 
the water for tea in a sauce-pot rather than in a kettle.

 - Volodya

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[freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1

2008-08-01 Thread Ian Clarke 
Setting aside the fact that this guy is clearly an asshole, does
anyone understand what problem he is running into here?

Ian.

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Don Lee  wrote:
> The installer should not attempt an install if there's a serious problem.
>
> I don't see a fix for this and I've already got a "good" JVM, right
> from SUN. Still, I reinstalled JVM and freenet still fails.
>
> I've tried to install freenet several times on several machines over
> the last two years.
>
> My opinion is that it's total shite.
>
> It has never worked, and will never work.
>
> Back to TOR, which works...
>
> Goodbye Fakenet.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:00 AM,   
> wrote:
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>>   1. Re: [Fwd: cannaot install] (robert fallis)
>>   2. Re: [Fwd: cannaot install] (Julien Cornuwel)
>>   3. Re: [Fwd: cannaot install] (robert fallis)
>>   4. error message (robert fallis)
>>   5. Re: [Fwd: cannaot install] (Julien Cornuwel)
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:38:17 +0100
>> From: robert fallis 
>> Subject: Re: [freenet-support] [Fwd: cannaot install]
>> To: support at freenetproject.org
>> Message-ID: <1217507897.15609.4.camel at robert-desktop>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 11:02 +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote:
>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> robert fallis a ?crit :
>>> | Java.IO. IO. exception  cannot run program " home/robert/freenet/bin/
>>> | install_updater.sh Io exception error13, permission denied
>>>
>>> It looks like a permission problem. Where are you trying to install the
>>> program ? You should check that your user as write and execute rights on
>>> the folder you specified.
>>  Julien.
>> have changed permission, but still no joy I have what seams to be a
>> partly installed system, I have tried to run the uninstaller but that
>> will not work, is there any way to uninstall. the stuff thats on the
>> computor. so that I can make a frash start,
>> regards
>> bob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:00:16 +0200
>> From: Julien Cornuwel 
>> Subject: Re: [freenet-support] [Fwd: cannaot install]
>> To: support at freenetproject.org, robert.fallis at virgin.net
>> Message-ID: <4891B760.4060407 at freenetproject.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> robert fallis a ?crit :
>>
>>>  Julien.
>>> have changed permission, but still no joy I have what seams to be a
>>> partly installed system, I have tried to run the uninstaller but that
>>> will not work, is there any way to uninstall. the stuff thats on the
>>> computor. so that I can make a frash start,
>>> regards
>>> bob
>>
>> What operating system are you using ?
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)
>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
>>
>> iD8DBQFIkbdgmY5qNqKdYw0RAvvgAJ9gQ9h9/pkKTlm6lLthj0xa/33qWQCfc6jd
>> YUfV1ZXKhfnJ3hLCVJ7/GJU=
>> =9pVS
>> -END PGP SIGNATURE-
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:22:37 +0100
>> From: robert fallis 
>> Subject: Re: [freenet-support] [Fwd: cannaot install]
>> To: support at freenetproject.org
>> Message-ID: <1217510557.15609.7.camel at robert-desktop>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 15:00 +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote:
>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> robert fallis a ?crit :
>>>
>>> >  Julien.
>>> > have changed permission, but still no joy I have what seams to be a
>>> > partly installed system, I have tried to run the uninstaller but that
>>> > will not work, is there any way to uninstall. the stuff thats on the
>>> > computor. so that I can make a frash start,
>>> > regards
>>> > bob
>>>
>>> What operating system are you using ?
>>  Julien,
>> linux Kubuntu 8.04 lts
>>
>> regards
>> bob
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:56:03 +0100
>> From: robert fallis 
>> Subject: [freenet-support] error message
>> To: freenet 
>> Message-ID: <1217519763.6449.8.camel at robert-desktop>
>> Content-Type: text/plain
>>
>> Julien this is the full error message I get
>>
>> An SSl exception has occered:java lang.RuntimeExection:Unexpected
>> Error.java

[freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1

2008-08-01 Thread Don Lee 
The installer should not attempt an install if there's a serious problem.

I don't see a fix for this and I've already got a "good" JVM, right
from SUN. Still, I reinstalled JVM and freenet still fails.

I've tried to install freenet several times on several machines over
the last two years.

My opinion is that it's total shite.

It has never worked, and will never work.

Back to TOR, which works...

Goodbye Fakenet.



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>   3. Re: [Fwd: cannaot install] (robert fallis)
>   4. error message (robert fallis)
>   5. Re: [Fwd: cannaot install] (Julien Cornuwel)
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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:38:17 +0100
> From: robert fallis 
> Subject: Re: [freenet-support] [Fwd: cannaot install]
> To: support at freenetproject.org
> Message-ID: <1217507897.15609.4.camel at robert-desktop>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 11:02 +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote:
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> robert fallis a ?crit :
>> | Java.IO. IO. exception  cannot run program " home/robert/freenet/bin/
>> | install_updater.sh Io exception error13, permission denied
>>
>> It looks like a permission problem. Where are you trying to install the
>> program ? You should check that your user as write and execute rights on
>> the folder you specified.
>  Julien.
> have changed permission, but still no joy I have what seams to be a
> partly installed system, I have tried to run the uninstaller but that
> will not work, is there any way to uninstall. the stuff thats on the
> computor. so that I can make a frash start,
> regards
> bob
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:00:16 +0200
> From: Julien Cornuwel 
> Subject: Re: [freenet-support] [Fwd: cannaot install]
> To: support at freenetproject.org, robert.fallis at virgin.net
> Message-ID: <4891B760.4060407 at freenetproject.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> robert fallis a ?crit :
>
>>  Julien.
>> have changed permission, but still no joy I have what seams to be a
>> partly installed system, I have tried to run the uninstaller but that
>> will not work, is there any way to uninstall. the stuff thats on the
>> computor. so that I can make a frash start,
>> regards
>> bob
>
> What operating system are you using ?
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)
> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
>
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> =9pVS
> -END PGP SIGNATURE-
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:22:37 +0100
> From: robert fallis 
> Subject: Re: [freenet-support] [Fwd: cannaot install]
> To: support at freenetproject.org
> Message-ID: <1217510557.15609.7.camel at robert-desktop>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 15:00 +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote:
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> robert fallis a ?crit :
>>
>> >  Julien.
>> > have changed permission, but still no joy I have what seams to be a
>> > partly installed system, I have tried to run the uninstaller but that
>> > will not work, is there any way to uninstall. the stuff thats on the
>> > computor. so that I can make a frash start,
>> > regards
>> > bob
>>
>> What operating system are you using ?
>  Julien,
> linux Kubuntu 8.04 lts
>
> regards
> bob
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:56:03 +0100
> From: robert fallis 
> Subject: [freenet-support] error message
> To: freenet 
> Message-ID: <1217519763.6449.8.camel at robert-desktop>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Julien this is the full error message I get
>
> An SSl exception has occered:java lang.RuntimeExection:Unexpected
> Error.java security.InvalidAlgorithmParammeter Exception: the
> trustAnchors parameter must be non empty.:3:Can't
> open /home/robert/_install_toSource.sh
>
> regards bob
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:55:07 +0200
> From: Julien Cornuwel 
> Subject: Re: [freenet-support] [Fwd: cannaot install]
> To: support at

Re: [freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1

2008-08-01 Thread Don Lee 
The installer should not attempt an install if there's a serious problem.

I don't see a fix for this and I've already got a good JVM, right
from SUN. Still, I reinstalled JVM and freenet still fails.

I've tried to install freenet several times on several machines over
the last two years.

My opinion is that it's total shite.

It has never worked, and will never work.

Back to TOR, which works...

Goodbye Fakenet.



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   4. error message (robert fallis)
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 Message: 1
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 From: robert fallis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: support@freenetproject.org
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

 On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 11:02 +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 robert fallis a ?crit :
 | Java.IO. IO. exception  cannot run program  home/robert/freenet/bin/
 | install_updater.sh Io exception error13, permission denied

 It looks like a permission problem. Where are you trying to install the
 program ? You should check that your user as write and execute rights on
 the folder you specified.
  Julien.
 have changed permission, but still no joy I have what seams to be a
 partly installed system, I have tried to run the uninstaller but that
 will not work, is there any way to uninstall. the stuff thats on the
 computor. so that I can make a frash start,
 regards
 bob





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 Message: 2
 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:00:16 +0200
 From: Julien Cornuwel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [freenet-support] [Fwd: cannaot install]
 To: support@freenetproject.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 robert fallis a ?crit :

  Julien.
 have changed permission, but still no joy I have what seams to be a
 partly installed system, I have tried to run the uninstaller but that
 will not work, is there any way to uninstall. the stuff thats on the
 computor. so that I can make a frash start,
 regards
 bob

 What operating system are you using ?
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 Message: 3
 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:22:37 +0100
 From: robert fallis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [freenet-support] [Fwd: cannaot install]
 To: support@freenetproject.org
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

 On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 15:00 +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 robert fallis a ?crit :

   Julien.
  have changed permission, but still no joy I have what seams to be a
  partly installed system, I have tried to run the uninstaller but that
  will not work, is there any way to uninstall. the stuff thats on the
  computor. so that I can make a frash start,
  regards
  bob

 What operating system are you using ?
  Julien,
 linux Kubuntu 8.04 lts

 regards
 bob



 --

 Message: 4
 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:56:03 +0100
 From: robert fallis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [freenet-support] error message
 To: freenet support@freenetproject.org
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain

 Julien this is the full error message I get

 An SSl exception has occered:java lang.RuntimeExection:Unexpected
 Error.java security.InvalidAlgorithmParammeter Exception: the
 trustAnchors parameter must be non empty.:3:Can't
 open /home/robert/_install_toSource.sh

 regards bob



 --

 Message: 5
 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:55:07 +0200
 From: Julien Cornuwel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [freenet-support] [Fwd: cannaot install]
 To: support@freenetproject.org
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 robert fallis a ?crit :

  Julien.
 have changed permission, but still no joy I have what seams

Re: [freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1

2008-08-01 Thread Volodya 
Don Lee wrote:
 The installer should not attempt an install if there's a serious problem.
 
 I don't see a fix for this and I've already got a good JVM, right
 from SUN. Still, I reinstalled JVM and freenet still fails.
 
 I've tried to install freenet several times on several machines over
 the last two years.
 
 My opinion is that it's total shite.
 
 It has never worked, and will never work.
 
 Back to TOR, which works...
 
 Goodbye Fakenet.

Good bye.

It is interesting though that you compare Freenet to Tor, which are 
significantly different in what they achieve (former is censorship resistance, 
latter is anonymous web browsing). I have a feeling that you have misunderstood 
what Freenet does, it does *not* allow you to browse the regular web 
anonymously, it allows you to publish information without the possibility of 
censorship (even you cannot take it down).

This makes me believe that you simply tried to do something with Freenet that 
it 
wasn't designed to do, hence it didn't work. But then what do i know, i boil 
the water for tea in a sauce-pot rather than in a kettle.

 - Volodya

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Re: [freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1

2008-08-01 Thread Ian Clarke 
Setting aside the fact that this guy is clearly an asshole, does
anyone understand what problem he is running into here?

Ian.

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Don Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The installer should not attempt an install if there's a serious problem.

 I don't see a fix for this and I've already got a good JVM, right
 from SUN. Still, I reinstalled JVM and freenet still fails.

 I've tried to install freenet several times on several machines over
 the last two years.

 My opinion is that it's total shite.

 It has never worked, and will never work.

 Back to TOR, which works...

 Goodbye Fakenet.



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   4. error message (robert fallis)
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 Message: 1
 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:38:17 +0100
 From: robert fallis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 11:02 +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 robert fallis a ?crit :
 | Java.IO. IO. exception  cannot run program  home/robert/freenet/bin/
 | install_updater.sh Io exception error13, permission denied

 It looks like a permission problem. Where are you trying to install the
 program ? You should check that your user as write and execute rights on
 the folder you specified.
  Julien.
 have changed permission, but still no joy I have what seams to be a
 partly installed system, I have tried to run the uninstaller but that
 will not work, is there any way to uninstall. the stuff thats on the
 computor. so that I can make a frash start,
 regards
 bob





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 Message: 2
 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:00:16 +0200
 From: Julien Cornuwel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [freenet-support] [Fwd: cannaot install]
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 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 robert fallis a ?crit :

  Julien.
 have changed permission, but still no joy I have what seams to be a
 partly installed system, I have tried to run the uninstaller but that
 will not work, is there any way to uninstall. the stuff thats on the
 computor. so that I can make a frash start,
 regards
 bob

 What operating system are you using ?
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 Message: 3
 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:22:37 +0100
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 Subject: Re: [freenet-support] [Fwd: cannaot install]
 To: support@freenetproject.org
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

 On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 15:00 +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 robert fallis a ?crit :

   Julien.
  have changed permission, but still no joy I have what seams to be a
  partly installed system, I have tried to run the uninstaller but that
  will not work, is there any way to uninstall. the stuff thats on the
  computor. so that I can make a frash start,
  regards
  bob

 What operating system are you using ?
  Julien,
 linux Kubuntu 8.04 lts

 regards
 bob



 --

 Message: 4
 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:56:03 +0100
 From: robert fallis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [freenet-support] error message
 To: freenet support@freenetproject.org
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain

 Julien this is the full error message I get

 An SSl exception has occered:java lang.RuntimeExection:Unexpected
 Error.java security.InvalidAlgorithmParammeter Exception: the
 trustAnchors parameter must be non empty.:3:Can't
 open /home/robert/_install_toSource.sh

 regards bob



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 Message: 5
 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:55:07 +0200
 From: Julien Cornuwel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [freenet-support] [Fwd: cannaot install]
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Re: [freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 35, Issue 1

2008-08-01 Thread Julien Cornuwel 
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Hash: SHA1

Ian Clarke a écrit :
 Setting aside the fact that this guy is clearly an asshole, does
 anyone understand what problem he is running into here?
 
 Ian.

I'd say that he installed sun's JVM but didn't choose to use it with
java-update-alternatives. He never answered my question on that point.

He just kept saying my JVM is good.
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