updating uboot while the phone's running
in a bid to do away with dfu and usb networking altogether - it all seems a bit clunky to be honest - is it possible to update uboot while the phone is running? i see from this, it's possible to read te contents of that flash area, but can it be written to, or does it need to be in a certain boot mode? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_Freerunner#Flashing_the_boot_loader_to_the_NAND ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: updating uboot while the phone's running
robin paulson wrote: in a bid to do away with dfu and usb networking altogether - it all seems a bit clunky to be honest - is it possible to update uboot while the phone is running? It's not supported yet (AFAIK) but I think that it would be possible. It's not as easy as flashing the kernel partition because you have to write an environment offset pointer into the out-of-band data of the first flash block. This tells u-boot which block contains its environment variables, and this number is specific to each device due to bad blocks. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Alsa scenarios , mixer
Dear all , i have two question regarding FR audio subsystem : 1 i need to when any of alsa scenario files are loading , i need to make modification but i really wonder when which will get loaded 2 i need to know exactly what each element of alsamixer doing ? -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
r(qtopia - kernel panic)
Hi, I have downloaded qtopia and after preparing sdcard ,installed the kernel and file system in the respective partitions.But when i m trying to boot thorough sdcard in qtopia . During kernel execution kernel is panicking .I am getting the following error. Warning : unable to open an initial console Kernel panic - not syncing : no init found .try passing init= option to kernel Regards Syed Yaqoob ali. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: r(qtopia - kernel panic)
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:40 PM, syed yaqoob ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have downloaded qtopia and after preparing sdcard ,installed the kernel and file system in the respective partitions.But when i m trying to boot thorough sdcard in qtopia . During kernel execution kernel is panicking .I am getting the following error. Warning : unable to open an initial console Kernel panic - not syncing : no init found .try passing init= option to kernel Have you tried with Shakthi Kannan's procedure: http://www.mail-archive.com/support@lists.openmoko.org/msg01103.html for which I was very grateful, since the procedure otherwise seemed a bit intimidating. Of course, step 6 assumes that the SD card has at some point gotten out of the card reader on your host PC and back into the (booted and USB networking-connected) phone... but you can also adapt the commands to untar the image onto the microSD card while it is still in your card reader on your host PC, and still get the same results (I did it that way). Actually, you could probably just pipe the tar stdout output from the /dev/mtdblock0 mountpoint to another tar process that untarred it onto the ext2 partition on the microSD card in your card reader, and it should still work. However, despite refinements, I found that Shakthi's method worked very well for me. A small glitch I found with Qtopia on the SD card, though, was that practically all the filesystem-related functionality (music player, etc etc) only seemed to look at the first, VFAT partition... even though apparently running off the second, ext2 filesystem. SSHing into the phone revealed that /etc/fstab did not have a mount line for the second partition (??!) but despite adding that and rebooting the phone, I was unable to get Qtopia to see my music on the second partition. Still haven't figured that one out (though I don't get too much time to play with the phone) :-( HTH Ed. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Emulator make qemu end up with errors
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/qasim/openmoko/build/qemu/arm-softmmu' ../dyngen -o op.h op.o make[2]: ../dyngen: Command not found then when i look into the folder home/qasim/openmoko/build/qemu/arm-softmmu' the op.h file was missing and get the file from http://www.krugle.org ... make[2]: Entering directory `/home/qasim/openmoko/build/qemu/arm-softmmu' ../dyngen -c -o opc.h op.o make[2]: ../dyngen: Command not found your problem seems rather to be that certain files are not generated (i'd expect op.h and opc.h to be generated, and i'm sure dyngen has to). i got no soureces and mokomakefile right now, b ut you should probably check the mokomakefile paramters, whether to do a step that generates those missing files. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Alsa scenarios , mixer
Armin ranjbar wrote: Dear all , i have two question regarding FR audio subsystem : 1 i need to when any of alsa scenario files are loading , i need to make modification but i really wonder when which will get loaded 2 i need to know exactly what each element of alsamixer doing ? I wrote a shell script which tells you which state is currently loaded, using this you can figure out what each state file is for: ---BEGIN--- #!/bin/sh CS=/tmp/current.state alsactl -f $CS store for F in `ls /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/*.state`; do #echo Comparing with $F if [ `diff $CS $F` = ]; then echo Current statefile is: $F exit fi done; echo Current state matches no file! ---END--- As for knowing exactly what each mixer element does, I'd love to know this too! HTH, -Dale ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
KDE4 on Debian/Freerunner ?
Are KDE4 binaries available for Debian/Freerunner (i.e. sid/armel) ? I installed kdebase and got kde3 I think. Didn't work OOTB. Have to try again. Does anyone have any idea? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: No GPS found in Tango w/ 2008.8
Søren Kristiansen wrote: shawn sullivan wrote: Hi all, I can't get TangoGPS to find my GPS when using 2008.8. Instead of all the useful information at the bottom, it shows 'No GPS found'. Locations works so I know my GPS unit is okay. And I made sure I turned the GPS 'On' in the settings menu. What am I missing here? thanks, . . .shawn First you have to install gpsd (it will tell you if it's already installed): # opkg install gpsd Then: # echo GPS_DEV=\/dev/ttySAC1\ /etc/default/gpsd and then restart gpsd: # /etc/init.d/gpsd restart The restart command has failed for me a couple of times (cant remember on which image) so just stop and start it if it fails. I hope this helped :-) Yup that did it. Thanks. I actually found these instructions on the wiki a few days ago. I vaguely remember doing this when I first installed Tango, so I'm not sure why it stopped working. thx! ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: qtopia - kernel panic
arne anka wrote: Warning : unable to open an initial console Kernel panic - not syncing : no init found .try passing init= option to kernel what file systesm did you use on these partitions and how did you proceed exactly when installing? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support Hi, I have used vfat for first partition and ext3 for the second partition. This is the procedure i have followed for installing qtopia on sdcard. My Host PC has FC 9. 1) connected to Neo freerunner by SSH 2) Partitioned SD card : fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 created a 8 mb partition for kernel and another one for the rootfs which took up all the remaining space Command (m for help): d Selected partition 1 Command (m for help): n Command action e extended p primary partition (1-4) p Partition number (1-4): 1 First cylinder (1-983, default 1): Using default value 1 Last cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (1-983, default 983): +8M Command (m for help): n Command action e extended p primary partition (1-4) p Partition number (1-4): 2 First cylinder (18-983, default 18): Using default value 18 Last cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (18-983, default 983): Using default value 983 Command (m for help): w The partition table has been altered! Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. fdisk: WARNING: rereading partition table failed, kernel still uses old table: Device or resource busy 3)Got an fdisk warning so umounted : umount /dev/mmcblk0p1 redone the step2 again.No error second time. 4)Formatted the SDcard : for first partition. a) mkfs.vfat /dev/mmcblk0p1 for second partition. b)mkfs.ext3 /dev/mmcblk0p2 5)Mounted the sdcard: mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/card mkdir /media/card/boot mkdir /media/mmcblk0p2 mount /dev/mmcblk0p2 /media/mmcblk0p2 6)unpacked qtopia: got this two files : 1. uImage-2.6.24+git18+9c058ff0d2641df3c36fc3300acb72078d2c41d4-r0-om-gta02.bin 2. qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.jffs2 7)Mounted the rootfs on loopback device: export loop=$(losetup -f) losetup $loop rootfs.jffs2 modprobe block2mtd block2mtd=$loop,131072 modprobe jffs2 modprobe mtdblock mkdir mntpnt mount -t jffs2 -o ro /dev/mtdblock0 mntpnt 8)created compressed tarball. tar czf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz -c mntpnt 9)Transfer this compressed tarball to the second partition of the MicroSD that is mounted on the FreeRunner: scp qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/mmcblk0p2/ 10)Unpack the rootfilesystem: cd /media/mmcblk0p2 tar xzf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz rm qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz rm -f /media/mmcblk0p2/boot/* 11) Installed kernel. mv uImage-2.6.24+git18+9c058ff0d2641df3c36fc3300acb72078d2c41d4-r0-om-gta02.bin uImage.bin scp uImage.bin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card/boot/ scp uImage.bin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card/ 12)shutdown and boot in qtopia. Booted from Sdcard Now when kernel is booting .It's giving kernel panic. Regards Syed Yaqoob Ali ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: KDE4 on Debian/Freerunner ?
Try package kdebase-kde4. I don't know if there is one in debian.. or apt-cache search kdebase kde4 r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: KDE4 on Debian/Freerunner ?
Try package kdebase-kde4. I don't know if there is one in debian.. no, there isn't yet. it's still in experimental and no estimate given when it will enter at least unstable. but i strongly doubt the usefullness of kde on a limited device like the fr, the user experience will be similar to sparky mat's reports on using gnome, i gather. there's a GSoC project on porting kde to maemo, dunno how far it got ... http://www.kdedevelopers.org/blog/2892 ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: KDE4 on Debian/Freerunner ?
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:33 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try package kdebase-kde4. I don't know if there is one in debian.. no, there isn't yet. it's still in experimental and no estimate given when it will enter at least unstable. but i strongly doubt the usefullness of kde on a limited device like the fr, the user experience will be similar to sparky mat's reports on using gnome, i gather. there's a GSoC project on porting kde to maemo, dunno how far it got ... http://www.kdedevelopers.org/blog/2892 I'd say far enough: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=199495#post199495 http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3546 And yes, I guess that KDE4 out-of-the-box will not be that nice to use but maybe it can be customized to fit portable devices better.. And hey, if it's possible to install KDE(4) on Freerunner, why not give it a try! At least you can tell your friends you've been running KDE4 on your phone to get some credit, 'cause that's what it's all about, right :) And yes, I'd like to see KDE running on FR as well to feel like home :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Only noise on resume (FreeRunner)
No matter which uImage or snapshot, my FreeRunner won't wake up properly from suspend. All I get is noisy clicks from the speakers, one per second or so. I searched in the bug tracker and in this list, but did not find any mention of this behavior anywhere. It might have been caused by me accidentally piping data into /dev/mtdblock* which corrupted the flash memory so I had to do a reflash. Any ideas? Thorben PS: Note that my FreeRunner never went into suspend before this accident occurred. It might have been broken from the start. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Only noise on resume (FreeRunner)
ever flashed u-boot? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Illume config?
Dear all , there was an application which configures menus , 'gadgets' , icon size and ... of om2008 , i found that in the menu ( left up size , tool shaped icon ) , i wonder which application does provide that since it does appear that illume-config isn't it , any idea ? -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
grub in MTD partition #7?
Is it possible to create another small partition of 1 MB size and put grub into it? My hope is to have the kernel again within the partition like in the good old days (at least for the SD-card) and not in a separate partition. And while you're at it, can you make the boot menus look like: 1. boot NOR 2. boot NAND 3. start GRUB 4. ... resp. 1. boot NAND 2. boot NOR 3. start GRUB 4. ... ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: grub in MTD partition #7?
Grub is x86 only. (AFAIK) Why grub? uboot is a prettey decent bootloader. As far as i know uboot can also load a kernel from filesystems (at least from fat). Joachim Ott wrote: Is it possible to create another small partition of 1 MB size and put grub into it? My hope is to have the kernel again within the partition like in the good old days (at least for the SD-card) and not in a separate partition. And while you're at it, can you make the boot menus look like: 1. boot NOR 2. boot NAND 3. start GRUB 4. ... resp. 1. boot NAND 2. boot NOR 3. start GRUB 4. ... ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume config?
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:25:55 +0200 Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This this Really INVALID ? On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Armin ranjbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all , there was an application which configures menus , 'gadgets' , icon size and ... of om2008 , i found that in the menu ( left up size , tool shaped icon ) , i wonder which application does provide that since it does appear that illume-config isn't it , any idea ? -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support I filed a bug report on that one: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1863 it's closed... ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Illume keyboard Disappeared
after running a few while , maybe after suspends , Illume keyboard does not appear and standard om2008 keyboard appear , any one has any idea ? -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Only noise on resume (FreeRunner)
No, I figured that it should not have anything to do with suspend/resume... Can you point me to a stable version? 2008/8/26 arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ever flashed u-boot? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: suspend/resume and Debian on SD card
Simon Matthews wrote: when i resume via the power button, the XFCE desktop comes up but the menu button disappears and nothing else seems to work except the touch screen and pointer. If i have an ssh session running, all commands come back with a 'Permission denied' error except cd which still seems to work. I assume it is because cd is part of bash? Hi, exactly the same here : existing bash process is unfrozen all right but cannot spawn new processes. I can say it's not a filesystem issue since echo * or cd (bash internal) work as expected. That was a few days ago, didn't upgrade since though ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume config?
I believe 'opkg install illume-config' is what you are looking for otherwise you could try flashing one of the http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080824/ development images . (not recommended). Armin ranjbar wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:25:55 +0200 Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This this Really INVALID ? On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Armin ranjbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all , there was an application which configures menus , 'gadgets' , icon size and ... of om2008 , i found that in the menu ( left up size , tool shaped icon ) , i wonder which application does provide that since it does appear that illume-config isn't it , any idea ? -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support I filed a bug report on that one: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1863 it's closed... ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Illume-config--tp784324p785121.html Sent from the Openmoko Support mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
xglamotslib
after some fiddling with libts-dev i could successfully build with --enable-tslib -- on amd64. trying to use qemubuilder fails always because of qemu panicking ... it seems to be an issue w/ amd64, but since http://packages.debian.org seems to be down atm i can't check for any hints. so, what i did was installing libts-dev and libts-bin and after looking at the errors configure produced i changed in /usr/lib/pkgconfig/ tslib-0.0.pc to tslib-1.0.pc and inside Version: 0.0.0 to Version: 1.0-4 afterwards, as said before, ths stuff compiled and the deb was created. i don't know nothing about that pkgconfig stuff and if what i did is fixing a bug or an ugly hack (if it is a bug, someone report it against libts-dev). also i don't know if that was the only thing stopping xglamo from being build w/ tslib, if not and if someone has a working qemubuilder, please build. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume keyboard Disappeared
I myself asked this question recently.(Please search the mailing list before posting) http://n2.nabble.com/preserving-illume-keyboard-on-update-tp778734p778734.html link Armin ranjbar wrote: after running a few while , maybe after suspends , Illume keyboard does not appear and standard om2008 keyboard appear , any one has any idea ? -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Illume-keyboard-Disappeared-tp784751p785127.html Sent from the Openmoko Support mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume keyboard Disappeared
VictorSigma wrote: Armin ranjbar wrote: after running a few while , maybe after suspends , Illume keyboard does not appear and standard om2008 keyboard appear , any one has any idea ? I myself asked this question recently.(Please search the mailing list before posting) http://n2.nabble.com/preserving-illume-keyboard-on-update-tp778734p778734.html link But that thread has no answer either... Anyone know how to enable a full keyboard with the new update? -- Alex ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
GPRS om2008
Dear all :) i have an issue with GPRS under om2008 , in short , as i understand by manual gprs wiki article , i preferd second method which does not use does not use multiplexing ( i wonder what does it mean , if there be GPRS connection , will i receive phone calls ? ) the main issue is , the char device /dev/ttySAC0 does not response to ATZ or any other command , which causes scripts to timeout , any idea ? -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume config?
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:12:50 +0430 Armin ranjbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: yes - because that spanner was never meant to be accessible or exist. it is sheer bi-product of the way asu was released that you could get it back through a theme change. so as such that illume-config theme is really a bug - or exposes a bug that was hidden. you can argue that but that config gives me all sorts of useful stuff etc. but that is not what om wanted - they explicitly did NOT want that config tool. (it's actually just part of e/illume - an internal dialog window). you can switch to the illume profile (the default profile changed to asu - see /etc/enlightenment/default_profile) and you'll get it back. This this Really INVALID ? On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Armin ranjbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all , there was an application which configures menus , 'gadgets' , icon size and ... of om2008 , i found that in the menu ( left up size , tool shaped icon ) , i wonder which application does provide that since it does appear that illume-config isn't it , any idea ? -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support I filed a bug report on that one: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1863 it's closed... ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume keyboard Disappeared
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:28:55 +1000, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:00:08 -0400 Alex Fitzpatrick as best i know there is no way to turn qpe's keyboard off. until that happens there will always be fighting between illume's own keyboard and qpe's (As the vkbd system is generic allowing for any keyboard window - and illume just creates one of its own that gets picked up by the generic system). -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Right now, that's an IMMENSE irritation for me. (and to judge by mailinglist traffic, for many many others as well) I had xterm running today, typing on the 'full qwerty' keyboard, and while I was staring at the screen that keyboard went away and the 'letters only' one appeared, and the only way I could get cursor keys back was to reboot the goddammed thing. I dare anyone to try editing a file with that useless excuse for a keyboard. It may be good for text messaging and naming entries in Contacts, but even there it has shortcomings, mostly caused by the dictionary interaction. The predictive error introduction and the need to switch keyboards for punctuation and numbers means it takes a painfully long time to type something like 'ip r d default via 192.168.0.201'. If the damned thing would just stay shut off when disabled it'd be acceptable. I've been seriously considering flashing to a different OS just because of the keyboard. Any OS that intermittently removes cursor keys requiring reboot to restore them is broken. j PS - I realize this and similar posts are mostly 'preaching to the choir'. Since a polling mechanism isn't readily available, would it be useful to start a 'qtopia keyboard vote' thread where people can be encouraged to post a simple 'make it die' or 'I love it' or whatever as a vote? Clearly someone controlling such decisions at Openmoko is insufficiently aware of the general loathing within the community toward that keyboard. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume config?
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:27:32 +1000, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:12:50 +0430 Armin ranjbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: yes - because that spanner was never meant to be accessible or exist. it is sheer bi-product of the way asu was released that you could get it back through a theme change. so as such that illume-config theme is really a bug - or exposes a bug that was hidden. you can argue that but that config gives me all sorts of useful stuff etc. but that is not what om wanted - they explicitly did NOT want that config tool. (it's actually just part of e/illume - an internal dialog window). you can switch to the illume profile (the default profile changed to asu - see /etc/enlightenment/default_profile) and you'll get it back. It seems clear to me that someone in authority at Openmoko is trying to make a smartphone, without regard to the fact that probably 95% of sales to date are to developers who want to help MAKE that smartphone plus potentially much more, but have requirements which that authority is ignoring. (IE, they want pocket computer functionality, ready access to extensive configuration options, and - oh yeah, a usable keyboard that doesn't vanish at random) This falls under the heading how to kill a great product. I predict that if Openmoko fails, it will be due to abandonment by thousands of developers frustrated with narrowminded corporate decisions imposing intolerable limits. WTF - is their concept of 'Open' one where if we don't like their impositions that we should flash to Debian and abandon any development efforts for the 'official' distro?? If they don't want the developer community, I'm sure it will go away with just a little more effort. j ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Illume config?
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems clear to me that someone in authority at Openmoko is trying to make a smartphone, without regard to the fact that probably 95% of sales to date are to developers who want to help MAKE that smartphone plus potentially much more, but have requirements which that authority is ignoring. (IE, they want pocket computer functionality, ready access to extensive configuration options, and - oh yeah, a usable keyboard that doesn't vanish at random) But they already told you go to ahead and fork if you don't like it. :-) Maybe the official images are eventually going to become less relevant than the developer-sponsored ones. Just like Opie was way better than the official Zaurus image. (And the Zaurus also has several possible OS distributions and graphics toolkits, so the focus was spread out too much, and none of the possibilities really lived up to their potential.) But this project has way more people involved than the Zaurus ever did. And Sharp was really quite closed, did not take any community contributions at all - they threw a couple QTopia-based releases over the wall and that was the end of it, so the community had to start over in many ways to make improvements. After this experience I'm quite a bit happier with the way OpenMoko is going, although of course nothing is ever as good as it could be. Maybe they will eventually react in a positive way to some of the feedback about the keyboard etc., although the vision makes sense... is it really too much to ask for a UI toolkit to hide and show the keyboard depending on whether the input focus is in a widget that can take input? There are only a few widgets into which you can type, anyway. But we have several toolkits so the work has to be repeated. And in the meantime I don't see what would be so terrible about having that button... but it's amazing how much heat such a small thing generated, too. Of course FreeRunner buyers had good reason to expect more than us GTA01 early adopters, but it's obviously still a work-in-progress. There's not much to be done about that, except that everyone needs to keep working, not just the employees. (If you've ever used Linux on a PC, you don't blame the PC maker for any annoying UI quirks... you can fix it yourself, live with it, report bugs and/or keep trying distros until you find one you like.) This falls under the heading how to kill a great product. I hope that turns out to be an exaggeration. At least there is revenue... and support from the mothership... and I hope they planned for this multi-year ramp-up, and have a low enough burn rate that they can support it without running out of money. But while we are feeling disappointed that more has not been done so far, I wonder how much disappointment they feel over having to do the lion's share of the work. Maybe they were expecting more traction from the community to get them there quicker. Personally I find time to work on it periodically, but I'm off doing my own thing, and too slow... but if I ever get there, I'm OK with having to fork if necessary, and I will thank them for making available the hardware and OS support for it at a sortof affordable price, even if whatever GUI they ship ultimately sucks, because hey I can develop my own... that's what it's all about. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: qtopia - kernel panic
Yorick Moko wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 2:56 PM, syed yaqoob ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: arne anka wrote: Warning : unable to open an initial console Kernel panic - not syncing : no init found .try passing init= option to kernel what file systesm did you use on these partitions and how did you proceed exactly when installing? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support Hi, I have used vfat for first partition and ext3 for the second partition. This is the procedure i have followed for installing qtopia on sdcard. My Host PC has FC 9. 1) connected to Neo freerunner by SSH 2) Partitioned SD card : fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 created a 8 mb partition for kernel and another one for the rootfs which took up all the remaining space Command (m for help): d Selected partition 1 Command (m for help): n Command action e extended p primary partition (1-4) p Partition number (1-4): 1 First cylinder (1-983, default 1): Using default value 1 Last cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (1-983, default 983): +8M Command (m for help): n Command action e extended p primary partition (1-4) p Partition number (1-4): 2 First cylinder (18-983, default 18): Using default value 18 Last cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (18-983, default 983): Using default value 983 Command (m for help): w The partition table has been altered! Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. fdisk: WARNING: rereading partition table failed, kernel still uses old table: Device or resource busy 3)Got an fdisk warning so umounted : umount /dev/mmcblk0p1 redone the step2 again.No error second time. 4)Formatted the SDcard : for first partition. a) mkfs.vfat /dev/mmcblk0p1 for second partition. b)mkfs.ext3 /dev/mmcblk0p2 5)Mounted the sdcard: mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/card mkdir /media/card/boot mkdir /media/mmcblk0p2 mount /dev/mmcblk0p2 /media/mmcblk0p2 6)unpacked qtopia: got this two files : uImage-2.6.24+git18+9c058ff0d2641df3c36fc3300acb72078d2c41d4-r0-om-gta02.bin qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.jffs2 7)Mounted the rootfs on loopback device: export loop=$(losetup -f) losetup $loop rootfs.jffs2 modprobe block2mtd block2mtd=$loop,131072 modprobe jffs2 modprobe mtdblock mkdir mntpnt mount -t jffs2 -o ro /dev/mtdblock0 mntpnt 8)created compressed tarball. tar czf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz -c mntpnt 9)Transfer this compressed tarball to the second partition of the MicroSD that is mounted on the FreeRunner: scp qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/mmcblk0p2/ 10)Unpack the rootfilesystem: cd /media/mmcblk0p2 tar xzf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz rm qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz rm -f /media/mmcblk0p2/boot/* 11) Installed kernel. mv uImage-2.6.24+git18+9c058ff0d2641df3c36fc3300acb72078d2c41d4-r0-om-gta02.bin uImage.bin scp uImage.bin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card/boot/ scp uImage.bin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card/ 12)shutdown and boot in qtopia. Booted from Sdcard Now when kernel is booting .It's giving kernel panic. Regards Syed Yaqoob Ali ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support As far as I know: whan you want to boot fat + ext3 you need to edit u-boot entry fat + ext2 works straight out of the box (after updating u-boot) ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support How do i edit the u-boot entry for booting fat + ext3 ? Can someone pls provide the procedure. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: qtopia - kernel panic
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 9:47 AM, syed yaqoob ali [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yorick Moko wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 2:56 PM, syed yaqoob ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: arne anka wrote: Warning : unable to open an initial console Kernel panic - not syncing : no init found .try passing init= option to kernel what file systesm did you use on these partitions and how did you proceed exactly when installing? ___ support mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support Hi, I have used vfat for first partition and ext3 for the second partition. This is the procedure i have followed for installing qtopia on sdcard. My Host PC has FC 9. 1) connected to Neo freerunner by SSH 2) Partitioned SD card : fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 created a 8 mb partition for kernel and another one for the rootfs which took up all the remaining space Command (m for help): d Selected partition 1 Command (m for help): n Command action e extended p primary partition (1-4) p Partition number (1-4): 1 First cylinder (1-983, default 1): Using default value 1 Last cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (1-983, default 983): +8M Command (m for help): n Command action e extended p primary partition (1-4) p Partition number (1-4): 2 First cylinder (18-983, default 18): Using default value 18 Last cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (18-983, default 983): Using default value 983 Command (m for help): w The partition table has been altered! Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. fdisk: WARNING: rereading partition table failed, kernel still uses old table: Device or resource busy 3)Got an fdisk warning so umounted : umount /dev/mmcblk0p1 redone the step2 again.No error second time. 4)Formatted the SDcard : for first partition. a) mkfs.vfat /dev/mmcblk0p1 for second partition. b)mkfs.ext3 /dev/mmcblk0p2 5)Mounted the sdcard: mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/card mkdir /media/card/boot mkdir /media/mmcblk0p2 mount /dev/mmcblk0p2 /media/mmcblk0p2 6)unpacked qtopia: got this two files : uImage-2.6.24+git18+9c058ff0d2641df3c36fc3300acb72078d2c41d4-r0-om-gta02.bin qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.jffs2 7)Mounted the rootfs on loopback device: export loop=$(losetup -f) losetup $loop rootfs.jffs2 modprobe block2mtd block2mtd=$loop,131072 modprobe jffs2 modprobe mtdblock mkdir mntpnt mount -t jffs2 -o ro /dev/mtdblock0 mntpnt 8)created compressed tarball. tar czf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz -c mntpnt 9)Transfer this compressed tarball to the second partition of the MicroSD that is mounted on the FreeRunner: scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/mmcblk0p2/ 10)Unpack the rootfilesystem: cd /media/mmcblk0p2 tar xzf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz rm qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz rm -f /media/mmcblk0p2/boot/* 11) Installed kernel. mv uImage-2.6.24+git18+9c058ff0d2641df3c36fc3300acb72078d2c41d4-r0-om-gta02.bin uImage.bin scp uImage.bin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card/boot/ scp uImage.bin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card/ 12)shutdown and boot in qtopia. Booted from Sdcard Now when kernel is booting .It's giving kernel panic. Regards Syed Yaqoob Ali ___ support mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support As far as I know: whan you want to boot fat + ext3 you need to edit u-boot entry fat + ext2 works straight out of the box (after updating u-boot) ___ support mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support How do i edit the u-boot entry for booting fat + ext3 ? Can someone pls provide the procedure. Have you tried the procedure on this wiki page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Add_uboot_boot_entry Rakshat ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Mofi issue on 2008.8 stable
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tried to start Mofi (v2) and get this Traceback (most recent call last): ~ File /usr/lib/mofi/mofi_gui.py, line 30, in module ~import gtk ~ File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py, line 82, in module ~init() NameError: name 'init' is not defined ~ Any ideas on how to fix this? ~ Thanks, ~ Lisa -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFItN6Z1sOMhsR36UsRAjOIAJ4y7o3jzAISwsRYQ+8Tuo2vwoQ+CACgmrgg KQaEvtHa7YYqHaMDuzbFetI= =2px+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
