[FDOM FSO] no sound in calls

2008-10-13 Thread Thomas des Courières
Hi all,
I have my freerunner since around a month, and sound has always worked.
As I've got FDOM in the flash, I tried to install the raster image, along
with FSO. very nice peace of work !
but I hadn't any sound in zhone, like some others in the mailing lists, so I
switched back to my FDOM.
Now I neither haver sound in FDOM  this used to work like a charm !
I tried to replace the state files in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios, but
this does'nt work either ...
Anyone has an idea on how to solve it ?
Thomas
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Re: [FDOM FSO] no sound in calls

2008-10-13 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Hi all,
| I have my freerunner since around a month, and sound has always worked.
| As I've got FDOM in the flash, I tried to install the raster image,
| along with FSO. very nice peace of work !
| but I hadn't any sound in zhone, like some others in the mailing lists,
| so I switched back to my FDOM.
| Now I neither haver sound in FDOM  this used to work like a charm !
| I tried to replace the state files in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios, but
| this does'nt work either ...
| Anyone has an idea on how to solve it ?

Confirm in dmesg that your audio is recognized in Alsa, something
interesting seems to be going on around that.

Bad:

~ ALSA device list:
~  No soundcards found.

Good:

~ ALSA device list:
~  #0: neo1973-gta02 (WM8753)

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Re: [FDOM FSO] no sound in calls

2008-10-13 Thread Thomas des Courières
there is no mention of alsa.
neither of neo1973-gta02 ...
will that be a kernel problem ?

2008/10/13 Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 Somebody in the thread at some point said:
 | Hi all,
 | I have my freerunner since around a month, and sound has always worked.
 | As I've got FDOM in the flash, I tried to install the raster image,
 | along with FSO. very nice peace of work !
 | but I hadn't any sound in zhone, like some others in the mailing lists,
 | so I switched back to my FDOM.
 | Now I neither haver sound in FDOM  this used to work like a charm !
 | I tried to replace the state files in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios, but
 | this does'nt work either ...
 | Anyone has an idea on how to solve it ?

 Confirm in dmesg that your audio is recognized in Alsa, something
 interesting seems to be going on around that.

 Bad:

 ~ ALSA device list:
 ~  No soundcards found.

 Good:

 ~ ALSA device list:
 ~  #0: neo1973-gta02 (WM8753)

 - -Andy
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Re: [FDOM FSO] no sound in calls

2008-10-13 Thread Thomas des Courières
more infos on this problem.
I tried to play a sound :

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# aplay ./opt/Qtopia/sounds/alarm.wav
ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:1479:(_snd_pcm_direct_get_slave_ipc_offset) Invalid
value for card
aplay: main:546: audio open error: No such device

then I checked the loaded modules and there is no one !

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# lsmod
Module  Size  Used by

How do I reload all the needed modules ?



2008/10/13 Thomas des Courières [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 there is no mention of alsa.
 neither of neo1973-gta02 ...
 will that be a kernel problem ?

 2008/10/13 Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 Somebody in the thread at some point said:
 | Hi all,
 | I have my freerunner since around a month, and sound has always worked.
 | As I've got FDOM in the flash, I tried to install the raster image,
 | along with FSO. very nice peace of work !
 | but I hadn't any sound in zhone, like some others in the mailing lists,
 | so I switched back to my FDOM.
 | Now I neither haver sound in FDOM  this used to work like a charm !
 | I tried to replace the state files in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios, but
 | this does'nt work either ...
 | Anyone has an idea on how to solve it ?

 Confirm in dmesg that your audio is recognized in Alsa, something
 interesting seems to be going on around that.

 Bad:

 ~ ALSA device list:
 ~  No soundcards found.

 Good:

 ~ ALSA device list:
 ~  #0: neo1973-gta02 (WM8753)

 - -Andy
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Re: [FDOM FSO] no sound in calls

2008-10-13 Thread Thomas des Courières
Well, I reflashed a older kernel, and the sound is back.
and in dmesg I see :
[3.87] ALSA device list:
[3.875000]   #0: neo1973-gta02 (WM8753)
so everything's back ok !

could it be that putting fso on the sdcard and upgrading it, it overwrote
the kernel in the flash ?
because I see that the times are back before the log line ...


2008/10/13 Thomas des Courières [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 more infos on this problem.
 I tried to play a sound :

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# aplay ./opt/Qtopia/sounds/alarm.wav
 ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:1479:(_snd_pcm_direct_get_slave_ipc_offset) Invalid
 value for card
 aplay: main:546: audio open error: No such device

 then I checked the loaded modules and there is no one !

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# lsmod
 Module  Size  Used by

 How do I reload all the needed modules ?



 2008/10/13 Thomas des Courières [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 there is no mention of alsa.
 neither of neo1973-gta02 ...
 will that be a kernel problem ?

 2008/10/13 Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 Hash: SHA1

 Somebody in the thread at some point said:
 | Hi all,
 | I have my freerunner since around a month, and sound has always worked.
 | As I've got FDOM in the flash, I tried to install the raster image,
 | along with FSO. very nice peace of work !
 | but I hadn't any sound in zhone, like some others in the mailing lists,
 | so I switched back to my FDOM.
 | Now I neither haver sound in FDOM  this used to work like a charm !
 | I tried to replace the state files in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios,
 but
 | this does'nt work either ...
 | Anyone has an idea on how to solve it ?

 Confirm in dmesg that your audio is recognized in Alsa, something
 interesting seems to be going on around that.

 Bad:

 ~ ALSA device list:
 ~  No soundcards found.

 Good:

 ~ ALSA device list:
 ~  #0: neo1973-gta02 (WM8753)

 - -Andy
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Re: NetworkManager in Intrepid breaks my FreeRunner's Internet connection

2008-10-13 Thread azmodie
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 6:14 AM, Jeffrey Ratcliffe 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2008/10/13 digger vermont [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Recently something changed with NetworkManager in Intrepid, don't know
  what.  With the auto usb0 line in the interfaces file NM decided that

 They started using the 0.7 version of NetworkManager, which isn't
 quite finished.

  it to make it the default route when I plugged it in.  I could see the
  nm-applet going around and then a notification that I was connected to
  the Freerunner.  Looking at connections with nm-applet there were tabs
  for both the wireless and usb0 with usb0 marked as default. I kinda
  remember an Ubuntu bug-report concerning the default route in NM.

 There are plenty of those. I can post them if anyone is interested.

  Any way my solution was to comment out auto usb0 and manually use
  ifup usb0 (actually sudo ifdown usb0  sudo ifup usb0 is what I
  use).

 Are you saying that you type sudo ifdown usb0  sudo ifup usb0
 every time you plug in your FR?

 I'm beginning to conclude that I will have to remove NM and set up
 everything manually.

 Regards

 Jeff

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have you tried replacing network manager with Wicd[1]. i think it has better
frontend and will not have the same issue as NM.

azmodie
[1] http://wicd.sourceforge.net

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Re: Re-registering to GSM network

2008-10-13 Thread Leonti Bielski
Ok, thank you!

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 This is Openmoko bug #1024, which essentially seems to be a bug in the TI
 firmware. It depends on the TI Calypso sleep mode, the traffic in the cell
 you're logged into, and probably also your network operator's software
 running on the cell towers. We're experimenting with a band-aid atm (see
 bug-report for the entire gloryness...).

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Re: closing apps in FDOM

2008-10-13 Thread David Samblas
tap on the top bar arrow and then tap remove to close the actual
focused app

El lun, 13-10-2008 a las 23:19 +1300, anthony winter escribió:
 How do you do it?
 What am I missing here?
 
 


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Re: Re-registering to GSM network

2008-10-13 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
This is Openmoko bug #1024, which essentially seems to be a bug in the TI 
firmware. It depends on the TI Calypso sleep mode, the traffic in the cell 
you're logged into, and probably also your network operator's software 
running on the cell towers. We're experimenting with a band-aid atm (see 
bug-report for the entire gloryness...).

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Re: closing apps in FDOM

2008-10-13 Thread Joachim Ott
2008/10/13 anthony winter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 How do you do it?
 What am I missing here?


1. Tap on the little triangle  in the upper middle of the screen. A pulldown
menu appears, the current app will the be the one at the bottom of this
menu.

2. Tap on REMOVE in the lower left corner of that pulldown menu.
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closing apps in FDOM

2008-10-13 Thread anthony winter
How do you do it?
What am I missing here?


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Re: NetworkManager in Intrepid breaks my FreeRunner's Internet connection

2008-10-13 Thread digger vermont
On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 07:14 +0200, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote:
 2008/10/13 digger vermont [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Recently something changed with NetworkManager in Intrepid, don't know
  what.  With the auto usb0 line in the interfaces file NM decided that
 
 They started using the 0.7 version of NetworkManager, which isn't
 quite finished.

...

  Any way my solution was to comment out auto usb0 and manually use
  ifup usb0 (actually sudo ifdown usb0  sudo ifup usb0 is what I
  use).
 
 Are you saying that you type sudo ifdown usb0  sudo ifup usb0
 every time you plug in your FR?
 

You have to decide where you want to spend your time.  For me it isn't
NM at the moment.  So yeah its a a drag but I type it in.

digger


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Re: Re-registering to GSM network

2008-10-13 Thread Lorn Potter
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
 This is Openmoko bug #1024, which essentially seems to be a bug in the TI 
 firmware. It depends on the TI Calypso sleep mode, the traffic in the cell 
 you're logged into, and probably also your network operator's software 
 running on the cell towers. We're experimenting with a band-aid atm (see 
 bug-report for the entire gloryness...).
 

I would say it has more to do with firmware. I have a gta01 that does 
this, a gta02 prototype that does it and a production FR that does not. 
All using the same gui, same sim, same tower, same operator, same 
network traffic.

Using sleep mode on my production FR, stops it from properly waking up 
on phone calls and sms, so this is not reliable in stopping the bouncy 
calypso.


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Re: Re-registering to GSM network

2008-10-13 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:58:51 +1000, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
 This is Openmoko bug #1024, which essentially seems to be a bug in the
 TI
 firmware. It depends on the TI Calypso sleep mode, the traffic in the
 cell
 you're logged into, and probably also your network operator's software
 running on the cell towers. We're experimenting with a band-aid atm (see
 bug-report for the entire gloryness...).

 
 I would say it has more to do with firmware. I have a gta01 that does
 this, a gta02 prototype that does it and a production FR that does not.
 All using the same gui, same sim, same tower, same operator, same
 network traffic.
 
 Using sleep mode on my production FR, stops it from properly waking up
 on phone calls and sms, so this is not reliable in stopping the bouncy
 calypso.

I'm assuming that said firmware is field-upgradeable, right?  :)

So once a fix is devised it won't be just for newly-produced handsets, as
might be the case with 'ordinary' cellphones. ;)

I'm seeing this issue on a GTA02v6 (August production) with frameworkd and
zhone.  Don't recall ever observing it on my previous (pre-RMA, June
production) GTA02v5, but it's possible that it's just frameworkd+zhone
making it more visible to me.  Inquiry shows me HW: GTA02BV5, GSM:
gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-Moko8, though
/proc/cpuinfo lists revision 0360.

Carrier is T-Mobile in US, but I'm permanently roaming on either Suncom
(being folded into T-Mobile now) or Cingular/ATT, and I've seen this
happening on both roaming networks.

j


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Re: closing apps in FDOM

2008-10-13 Thread anthony winter
Thanks for the information. Is it actually written down anywhere?
But it doesn't work with 'Contacts'. If I have just 'Home' and 'Contacts' in 
the list it 'Contacts' does not get closed.

Extra questions:
1) what is the quickest way of shutting down the neo completely?
At present I am using a terminal and entering init 0.

2) What do the three little + signs at the bottom of the screen do?

3) What is the * at the bottom left for?

4) What does the (possibly) spanner-like symbol at the top right do?

In other words - where is there a description of this user interface!?


On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, you wrote:
 2008/10/13 anthony winter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  How do you do it?
  What am I missing here?
 
 
 1. Tap on the little triangle  in the upper middle of the screen. A pulldown
 menu appears, the current app will the be the one at the bottom of this
 menu.
 
 2. Tap on REMOVE in the lower left corner of that pulldown menu.
 



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Re: Re-registering to GSM network

2008-10-13 Thread Michael Shiloh
Joel Newkirk wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:58:51 +1000, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
 This is Openmoko bug #1024, which essentially seems to be a bug in the
 TI
 firmware. It depends on the TI Calypso sleep mode, the traffic in the
 cell
 you're logged into, and probably also your network operator's software
 running on the cell towers. We're experimenting with a band-aid atm (see
 bug-report for the entire gloryness...).

 I would say it has more to do with firmware. I have a gta01 that does
 this, a gta02 prototype that does it and a production FR that does not.
 All using the same gui, same sim, same tower, same operator, same
 network traffic.

 Using sleep mode on my production FR, stops it from properly waking up
 on phone calls and sms, so this is not reliable in stopping the bouncy
 calypso.
 
 I'm assuming that said firmware is field-upgradeable, right?  :)
 
 So once a fix is devised it won't be just for newly-produced handsets, as
 might be the case with 'ordinary' cellphones. ;)
 
 I'm seeing this issue on a GTA02v6 (August production) with frameworkd and
 zhone.  Don't recall ever observing it on my previous (pre-RMA, June
 production) GTA02v5, but it's possible that it's just frameworkd+zhone
 making it more visible to me.  Inquiry shows me HW: GTA02BV5, GSM:
 gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-Moko8, though
 /proc/cpuinfo lists revision 0360.
 
 Carrier is T-Mobile in US, but I'm permanently roaming on either Suncom
 (being folded into T-Mobile now) or Cingular/ATT, and I've seen this
 happening on both roaming networks.


This bug seems to be much worse with ATT than T-mobile.

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