SD card mounting issues (om2009)

2009-05-31 Thread Paul
Hey All

I have a sd card with 1 particition (4gb).  I booted up and it seems that
OM2009 mounts /dev/mmcblk0 to /media/mmcblk0 even though it's not in fstab.

I want to mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 to /media/card cause I have my GPS maps and
my root home directory (/media/card/bind-home) there.  But because
/dev/mmcblk0 is already mounted, it prevents the partition to mount.

I've removed the /media/mmcblk0 directory and rebooted, and everything
seemed to be ok, but next time, everything went back to the original
settings.

Any ideas?

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[all] building ipk packages

2009-05-31 Thread Robin Paulson
can anyone tell me, if the structure of ipk packages, is the same as
the structure of deb packages? they look very similar. is it the same
compression method?

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Re: SD card mounting issues (om2009)

2009-05-31 Thread Joachim Ott
2009/5/31 Paul pault...@gmail.com:
 Hey All

 I have a sd card with 1 particition (4gb).  I booted up and it seems that
 OM2009 mounts /dev/mmcblk0 to /media/mmcblk0 even though it's not in fstab.

 I want to mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 to /media/card cause I have my GPS maps and
 my root home directory (/media/card/bind-home) there.  But because
 /dev/mmcblk0 is already mounted, it prevents the partition to mount.

 I've removed the /media/mmcblk0 directory and rebooted, and everything
 seemed to be ok, but next time, everything went back to the original
 settings.

Try this: add a line to /etc/udev/mount.blacklist

/dev/mmcblk0

Then boot once more and check it out.

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Re: [all] building ipk packages

2009-05-31 Thread Joachim Ott
2009/5/31 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com:
 can anyone tell me, if the structure of ipk packages, is the same as
 the structure of deb packages? they look very similar. is it the same
 compression method?

The ipk-file is a simple ar-archive (man ar). You usually find this in an ipk:

control.tar.gz - package info and dependencies
data.tar.gz - program- and data-files
file with version info

mc is rather good to sneak around in ipk's too, when you add the
following lines to your ~/.mc/bindings:

# .ipk
regex/\.ipk$
Open=%cd %p#uar
View=%view{ascii} ar t %f 2/dev/null

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Re: SD card mounting issues (om2009)

2009-05-31 Thread Paul
Thank you, that seems to do the trick.

Does anyone else think this is a bug, since the file system should never try
to mount the superblock?

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Joachim Ott jo.o...@googlemail.com wrote:

 2009/5/31 Paul pault...@gmail.com:
  Hey All
 
  I have a sd card with 1 particition (4gb).  I booted up and it seems that
  OM2009 mounts /dev/mmcblk0 to /media/mmcblk0 even though it's not in
 fstab.
 
  I want to mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 to /media/card cause I have my GPS maps
 and
  my root home directory (/media/card/bind-home) there.  But because
  /dev/mmcblk0 is already mounted, it prevents the partition to mount.
 
  I've removed the /media/mmcblk0 directory and rebooted, and everything
  seemed to be ok, but next time, everything went back to the original
  settings.

 Try this: add a line to /etc/udev/mount.blacklist

 /dev/mmcblk0

 Then boot once more and check it out.

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Re: [all] building ipk packages

2009-05-31 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
 can anyone tell me, if the structure of ipk packages, is the same as
 the structure of deb packages?

yes

 they look very similar. is it the same
 compression method?

AFAIK .deb is .tar.gz and .ipk is only tar but not sure.


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Finding a recent U-Boot (Was: Om2009 testing release 4)

2009-05-31 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 07:55:31PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote:
 
 i think the critical thing is that you are using a *recent* version of
 whichever bootloader, be it uboot or qi
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009#Installing

   Unfortunately, the U-Boot download link points to an ancient (8 months
old) version of U-Boot. The latest U-Boot is here:

http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/experimental/NeoFreerunner/

 that said, i'm sticking with qi, and development there looks much more
 active.

   Not much difference:

U-Boot: Two commits in the last two months. [1]
qi: Three commits in the last two months. [2]

[1] http://git.openmoko.org/?p=u-boot.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/stable
[2] http://git.openmoko.org/?p=qi.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/master

 there's no incentive i can see to stay with uboot

   Other than being able to flash a new boot loader. :-)

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Re: Finding a recent U-Boot (Was: Om2009 testing release 4)

2009-05-31 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 18:18, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk wrote:
   Other than being able to flash a new boot loader. :-)

With Qi you're still able to flash a new bootloader (unless you have
gta01 without debug board :P)

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The myth of non-functioning SIMs

2009-05-31 Thread David Fokkema
Hi list,

Wanting to start experimenting in earnest with my FR and Om2009 in
particular and already having missed some sms messages and calls, I
decided on getting a separate SIM card. I already had a prepaid,
non-data SIM from the olden days, so I decided on getting a subscription
(I mean: non pre-paid, but I think subscription is not the correct word
for it, or is it?) with a data option to replace my old SIM in time,
when my FR's 'ready'. Anyway, I now have an old-sim/old-phone (reliable)
and a new-sim/FR.

Having already upgraded calypso to firmware 11, I expected no problems
at all. Dark became my mood when Om2009 beta4 registered, but refused to
place and receive calls. Even darker when Om2008.12 refused to boot. Ah,
yes, some quirk (what quirk?) requires the FR to explicitly select the
'boot' option in NOR the first time. After that, Om2008.12 booted, but
refused to place calls without any delay (Om2009 decided to ponder the
question of placing a call or not for about 15 seconds). My old pre-paid
sim just works!

Searching the internet I recognized my new SIM in the photo gallery of
'working SIMs', so I was already mentally preparing myself to start
learning to debug calypso.

Then, it turned out that my brand new provider, Vodafone, had a large
service interruption which lasted from the evening I received my SIM to
some twenty-four hours later... Some coincidence.

Anyway, I'm happy now, since everything works, ;-)

David

PS: my friends and family don't quite 'get' me wanting to have a
somewhat not-yet-functional phone with beta-quality software (at best),
so they don't really appreciate my apprehension when nothing was
working, ;-)


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Re: The myth of non-functioning SIMs

2009-05-31 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:48 PM, David Fokkema dfokk...@ileos.nl wrote:
 Then, it turned out that my brand new provider, Vodafone, had a large
 service interruption which lasted from the evening I received my SIM to
 some twenty-four hours later... Some coincidence.

That's quite of a story there :)

 PS: my friends and family don't quite 'get' me wanting to have a
 somewhat not-yet-functional phone with beta-quality software (at best),
 so they don't really appreciate my apprehension when nothing was
 working, ;-)

Hey David, you're not alone in this boat :) There are plenty of us who
look stupid playing with the handheld gaming device, yelling to it
'sorry, can't hear you', not answering calls etc etc - but still being
very satisfied or happy about it :)


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Re: Finding a recent U-Boot (Was: Om2009 testing release 4)

2009-05-31 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/6/1 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk:
   Unfortunately, the U-Boot download link points to an ancient (8 months
 old) version of U-Boot. The latest U-Boot is here:

 http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/experimental/NeoFreerunner/

ah, good you found it. i didn't realise that link was broken

 that said, i'm sticking with qi, and development there looks much more
 active.

   Not much difference:

 U-Boot: Two commits in the last two months. [1]
 qi: Three commits in the last two months. [2]

well, statistics can be deceptive. you're not wrong, but:
u-boot 2 commits this year
qi: 50+ commits this year

of course, my stats could be deceptive too, and not tell the whole
story. and they don't. this is more about predicting where qi will go
in future, than where it is now. and various people from om have
talked about qi being the way forward. i imagine there will be no more
significant changes to uboot from here onwards, whereas qi will
steadily improve. i might be wrong

 [1] http://git.openmoko.org/?p=u-boot.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/stable
 [2] http://git.openmoko.org/?p=qi.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/master

 there's no incentive i can see to stay with uboot

   Other than being able to flash a new boot loader. :-)

eh? i'm happy with qi, my fr is working well (aside from wifi), and
can update qi when i need to. i was careful all the way through what i
said to include what 'i' am doing, rather than what you should do

cheers

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