Re: [FSO] GPS GTA02

2009-07-06 Thread David Fokkema
On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 20:21 -0400, Paul wrote:
 I did an update and reinstalled tango gps and things are fixed.  Not
 sure which one did it, Figure I share.

Yes, thanks for sharing! I was out of ideas, as were we all apparently,
and it's good to know it works now. That means I can scrap this from my
FRUL (Freerunner uneasyness list).

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Re: [FSO] GPS GTA02

2009-07-03 Thread David Fokkema
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 21:39 +0200, Sten Kvamme wrote:
 Getting the position with mdbus gives only 0's
  mdbus -s org.freedesktop.Gypsy /org/freedesktop/Gypsy
 org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Position.GetPosition
 (0, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0)
 
 but cat /dev/ttySAC1 gives sometimes an empty output and
 sometimes a
 fragment of what seems to be a position.
 
 64,N,01156.73895,E,1,09,1.71,25.
 
 What's going on?

This is not related to the SHR bug, because that one gives no output,
IIUC.

Are you sure you have a fix and good GPS reception?

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Re: Freerunner won't boot: dies in uboot

2009-06-29 Thread David Fokkema
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 11:56 +0200, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 02:17:41PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote:
 
  My understanding is that the boot loader does _not_ enable charging.
 
It does.

Fantastic! Glad to be proven wrong!

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[Paroli] Developing applications

2009-06-19 Thread David Fokkema
Hi list,

(I've asked before on IRC (#paroli), but the powers that be apparently
weren't present, :-)

What's the easiest way to develop applications for Paroli? Presently, I
installed Om2009, ssh'd into my FR, went
to /usr/share/paroli/applications, created a new dir and created the
skeleton code:

import tichy

class GpsApp(tichy.Application):
name = 'GPS'
category = 'launcher'

def run(self, parent=None, standalone=False):
print GPS RUNNING!!!

killed paroli, started /usr/bin/paroli and waited a long time for paroli
to initialize itself. It goes through the whole enter-your-pin -
Loading... sequence and that's not really helpful when you want to
quickly test your app. I tried to move out services and applications to
another dir but that freezes the loading... part.

What's great, BTW, is that GPS shows in the menu immediately. Clicking
on it  prints GPS RUNNING!!! to the terminal. Paroli/Tichy seems really
nice, but alas, little or no documentation is available. That's
understandable, but having good documentation attracts developer love.

BUT: what is the correct workflow for developing paroli apps?

(should I cross-post to community?)

Thanks,

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[Paroli] Docstrings, please?

2009-06-19 Thread David Fokkema
Hi list,

(for just the praise, skip the rant)

rant:
Paroli really could do with some docstrings. Presently, I'm trying to
figure out which eml_*_window to use. Is there _any_ documentation on
that?

I'm used to import all kinds of things and then read the docstrings. I'm
also used to just reading the code, if necessary. I _think_ I'm starting
to understand (elm_list_window has a scroller, whereas elm_layout_window
does not) but docstrings (even single-line ones) really help here. I'm
beginning to understand edje and paroli (I hope), but actually hacking
existing code or writing a complete app requires documentation.
/rant

praise:
Of course, I'm still in awe of the work that has been done around
openmoko. So many projects, distributions, etc. all with their own goals
and visions. Most of them are really thought out, including, I think,
paroli.
/praise

Thanks,

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[Om2009] D-bus errors

2009-06-18 Thread David Fokkema
Hi list,

The following python script:

import dbus
bus = dbus.SystemBus()
gps = bus.get_object('org.freedesktop.Gypsy', '/org/freedesktop/Gypsy')
gps_device = dbus.Interface(gps, 'org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Device')
print gps_device.GetConnectionStatus()

gives:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ./myapp.py, line 9, in module
print gps_device.GetConnectionStatus()
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 68, in
__call__
return self._proxy_method(*args, **keywords)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 140, in
__call__
**keywords)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line 622,
in call_blocking
message, timeout)
dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.NameError:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/service.py, line 702, in
_message_cb
retval = candidate_method(self, *args, **keywords)
  File string, line 1, in lambda
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/resource.py, line
57, in checkedsyncmethod
dbus_error( ResourceNotEnabled( Resource %s is not enabled, current
status is '%s' % ( self.__class__.__name__, self._resourceStatus ) ) )
NameError: global name 'dbus_error' is not defined

Now, I understand that the resource is not enabled, but that's not the
'real' problem, of course: I'm talking about the NameError. Should I
import something, make use of a higher-level interface? Or is this a
plain bug?

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[Om2009] Strange GPS behaviour

2009-06-18 Thread David Fokkema
Hi list,

The following script:

import dbus
import time

bus = dbus.SystemBus()
usage = bus.get_object('org.freesmartphone.ousaged',
   '/org/freesmartphone/Usage')

gps = bus.get_object('org.freedesktop.Gypsy', '/org/freedesktop/Gypsy')
gps_device = dbus.Interface(gps, 'org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Device')
gps_position = dbus.Interface(gps, 'org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Position')

usage.RequestResource('GPS')
gps_device.Stop()

while True:
gps_device.Stop()
print 'Connection:', gps_device.GetConnectionStatus()
print 'Fix:', gps_device.GetFixStatus()
print 'Position:', gps_position.GetPosition()
time.sleep(2)

usage.ReleaseResource('GPS')

despite the repeated calls to gps_device.Stop(), gives me a nice fix in
no time. Why?

Related: how can I check if the GPS device is switched off (or on)? I
need to request it using ousaged, but that will probably enable the GPS,
right? When I stop and start my script, the fix is lost for a short
time, so I think that after releasing, the GPS is switched off, but I
have no way to check it, do I?

Thanks!

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Re: [Om2009] Strange GPS behaviour

2009-06-18 Thread David Fokkema
Just on the 'related' question:

On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 16:04 +0200, David Fokkema wrote:
 Related: how can I check if the GPS device is switched off (or on)? I
 need to request it using ousaged, but that will probably enable the GPS,
 right? When I stop and start my script, the fix is lost for a short
 time, so I think that after releasing, the GPS is switched off, but I
 have no way to check it, do I?

print usage.GetResourceState('GPS')

does the trick. It still happens that the solution presents itself a few
minutes _after_ you send that e-mail...

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Re: [Om2009] D-bus errors

2009-06-18 Thread David Fokkema
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 18:18 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
 On Thursday 18 June 2009 16:41:54 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
   Traceback (most recent call last):
File ./myapp.py, line 9, in module
  print gps_device.GetConnectionStatus()
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 68, in
   __call__
  return self._proxy_method(*args, **keywords)
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 140, in
   __call__
  **keywords)
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line 622,
   in call_blocking
  message, timeout)
   dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.NameError:
   Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/service.py, line 702, in
   _message_cb
  retval = candidate_method(self, *args, **keywords)
File string, line 1, in lambda
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/resource.py, line
   57, in checkedsyncmethod
  dbus_error( ResourceNotEnabled( Resource %s is not enabled, current
   status is '%s' % ( self.__class__.__name__, self._resourceStatus ) ) )
   NameError: global name 'dbus_error' is not defined
  
   Now, I understand that the resource is not enabled, but that's not the
   'real' problem, of course: I'm talking about the NameError. Should I
   import something, make use of a higher-level interface? Or is this a
   plain bug?
 
 Bug here, fixed in HEAD. Thanks!
 
 :M:

Thank _you_, of course!

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[Om2009] Python application development

2009-06-15 Thread David Fokkema
Hi list,

I've been browsing the wiki, but not really 'getting' it, I suppose.
Apart from running on my device, what are the options for application
development in python for Om2009? I'm really asking how to develop
applications on my laptop and to test paroli / illume integration and
such. I want to run it inside something like Xephyr, but I can't figure
out how to do that correctly. MokoMakefile says not to use MokoMakefile
for application development but to use a toolchain, but that's not
really necessary, right? Should I use MokoMakefile to build a qemu
emulator and then flash the latest Om2009 images? Or should I really
just run on the device?

(It's a shame that a lot of info on the wiki seems to be outdated)

Thanks,

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Re: [OM2009] Testing 2009-06-11: Misreading hardware clock

2009-06-13 Thread David Fokkema
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 18:02 +0200, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote:
 Out of curiosity, I had a look at OM2009:
 
 # flash_eraseall /dev/mtd6
 # wget --no-verbose \
   
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/daily/NeoFreerunner/fso-paroli-image-om-gta02.jffs2
  \
   -O - | nandwrite -p /dev/mtd6 -
 
 # flash_eraseall /dev/mtd3
 # wget --no-verbose \
   
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/daily/NeoFreerunner/uImage-2.6.28-stable+gitr0+f19f259d3c1afde8eae53983fd19f61831927413-r2-om-gta02.bin
  \
   -O - | nandwrite -p /dev/mtd3 -
 
The screen says 16:53 Monday, July 13, 2009. That makes it exactly one
 month ahead of time. The 2.6.28 kernel needs a backport of these two
 patches:
 
 http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=60c66130a4467ca2a2994a6e3d7d5ac63839eefb
 http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc1663fc922c03feb0d7bbb8b18d62fbac0128de
 

How strange. I've never seen that with Om2009. But, to tell the truth,
I'm not using any other distro on my phone. It might be the case that
Om2009 gets the current datetime from the GSM network after a few
minutes and will set the clock 'correctly' after that.

Regards,

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[Om2009] Which feeds?

2009-06-12 Thread David Fokkema
Hi list,

With the disappearance of the testing feeds, which feeds should I use
for my Om2009 testing release 4?

Thanks,

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Re: Testing feeds

2009-06-12 Thread David Fokkema
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 13:14 -0400, Warren Baird wrote:
 I saw in another thread that the OM2009 unstable tree was accidentally
 built in the testing dir - so they removed it rather than having
 people screw up their builds.
 
 I think testing 5 is supposed to be here in the next day or two...

I'm looking forward to it!

David


 
 Warren
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:36 AM, tammaro pamdirac palombo
 pamm...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm not sure but look at this page
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/experimental/README.html
 
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:13 AM, David Fokkema
 dfokk...@ileos.nl wrote:
 Hi list,
 
 This morning, I tried an opkg update using Om2009,
 which uses the
 testing feeds. However, upon checking in my desktop
 browser (to rule out
 networking problems) I discovered that
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/ is
 completely empty.
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Testing feeds

2009-06-11 Thread David Fokkema
Hi list,

This morning, I tried an opkg update using Om2009, which uses the
testing feeds. However, upon checking in my desktop browser (to rule out
networking problems) I discovered that
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/ is completely empty.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

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[Om2009] PIN PUK

2009-06-08 Thread David Fokkema
Hi list,

Getting a bit too confident, I decided to change the PIN (default )
of my SIM.

1. Paroli doesn't require you to re-enter the PIN, to make sure you made
no typo's.

2. Paroli doesn't give feedback on incorrect old PIN values, so you
don't really know for sure the PIN was actually changed.

3. On startup, unlocking the phone with your PIN is not very verbose. An
incorrect PIN results in another 'enter your PIN' screen, but nothing
like 'PIN incorrect, only 2 tries left'.

4. When the SIM is blocked (incorrect PIN) nothing shows in Paroli. It
doesn't tell you that the SIM is blocked and that you now need to enter
your PUK code. Having already tried a few times, I asked a colleague for
his unlocked phone to really make sure I wouldn't block the SIM by
entering incorrect PUK codes.

So, does anyone dare reproducing this, ;-) ?

Thanks,

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Re: [Om2009] PIN PUK

2009-06-08 Thread David Fokkema
On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 12:15 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:36 AM, David Fokkemadfokk...@ileos.nl wrote:
  Hi list,
 
  Getting a bit too confident, I decided to change the PIN (default )
  of my SIM.
 
  1. Paroli doesn't require you to re-enter the PIN, to make sure you made
  no typo's.
 
  2. Paroli doesn't give feedback on incorrect old PIN values, so you
  don't really know for sure the PIN was actually changed.
 
  3. On startup, unlocking the phone with your PIN is not very verbose. An
  incorrect PIN results in another 'enter your PIN' screen, but nothing
  like 'PIN incorrect, only 2 tries left'.
 
  4. When the SIM is blocked (incorrect PIN) nothing shows in Paroli. It
  doesn't tell you that the SIM is blocked and that you now need to enter
  your PUK code. Having already tried a few times, I asked a colleague for
  his unlocked phone to really make sure I wouldn't block the SIM by
  entering incorrect PUK codes.
 
  So, does anyone dare reproducing this, ;-) ?
 
 Thank you David for sharing your experience! I don't think we'll soon
 find anyone ready to test this (maybe with old SIM cards..). Could you
 please report all this to http://www.paroli-project.org/trac so it
 will not get lost in the mail archives. I think this is something
 quite important to be fixed..

I might try a few times. Apparently, as long as you're not entering an
incorrect PUK code ten times, all is well. Of course, an unlocked phone
nearby is necessary to the whole procedure.

I added this to trac:

http://www.paroli-project.org/trac/ticket/176

Regards,

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Re: [Om2009] PIN PUK

2009-06-08 Thread David Fokkema
On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 12:39 +0100, Al Johnson wrote:
 On Monday 08 June 2009, David Fokkema wrote:
  On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 12:15 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
   On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:36 AM, David Fokkemadfokk...@ileos.nl wrote:
Hi list,
   
Getting a bit too confident, I decided to change the PIN (default )
of my SIM.
   
1. Paroli doesn't require you to re-enter the PIN, to make sure you
made no typo's.
   
2. Paroli doesn't give feedback on incorrect old PIN values, so you
don't really know for sure the PIN was actually changed.
   
3. On startup, unlocking the phone with your PIN is not very verbose.
An incorrect PIN results in another 'enter your PIN' screen, but
nothing like 'PIN incorrect, only 2 tries left'.
   
4. When the SIM is blocked (incorrect PIN) nothing shows in Paroli. It
doesn't tell you that the SIM is blocked and that you now need to enter
your PUK code. Having already tried a few times, I asked a colleague
for his unlocked phone to really make sure I wouldn't block the SIM by
entering incorrect PUK codes.
   
So, does anyone dare reproducing this, ;-) ?
  
   Thank you David for sharing your experience! I don't think we'll soon
   find anyone ready to test this (maybe with old SIM cards..). Could you
   please report all this to http://www.paroli-project.org/trac so it
   will not get lost in the mail archives. I think this is something
   quite important to be fixed..
 
  I might try a few times. Apparently, as long as you're not entering an
  incorrect PUK code ten times, all is well. Of course, an unlocked phone
  nearby is necessary to the whole procedure.
 
 Why? You can just use mdbus to enter the PUK and set the PIN:
 
 http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.html;hb=HEAD#Unlock

Sure, but I didn't really know if paroli had already sent several
invalid PIN attempts as actual PUK attempts (and I thus had maybe only a
few attempts left). I really wanted to make sure I didn't lock my SIM
permanently. When running tests and keeping track of your failed
attempts, you'll be quicker running the actual AT commands, of course.
Thanks for the pointer BTW, didn't know this one. Maybe this deserves a
nice wiki page.

David


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Re: OM2009 USB

2009-06-04 Thread David Fokkema
On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 20:31 +1200, Robin Paulson wrote:
 2009/6/4 Ovidiu Gavril ovidiu_gav...@yahoo.com:
   I've just installed OM2009 release and I can't access the device with
  USB. When I try to put an IP and a netmask on usb0 interface of my computer,
  I get usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device, like
  nothing is connected to that interface. This works with OM2008.12 release.
   Thanks in advance!
 
 it's not usb0 anymore. don't ask why; someone changed it, apparently
 it's more correct. the discussion is in the mailing list archives in
 the last few weeks.

Very short summary: broken networking support was fixed, which made life
much easier.

Not-so-short summary: each freerunner has an assigned hardware address
for usb networking. Since the link has two ends (the internal FR side
and the pc side) both sides should have that address (actually, the two
addresses differ by exactly 1). That, apparently, is the correct way to
do it.

Previous versions only assigned the unique and certified address to the
internal side, and generated a random address for the pc (host) side, in
a 'local-use-only' range, similar to the 192.168.x.x-style ethernet
address range, which may only be used for local networks, and should
never be exposed to the internet. The network drivers decide to assign a
very generic usb0 interface to addresses in that range. The 'next' usb
device you connect would have usb1, and so forth. After reboot, however,
the mac address has changed and thus it's hard to write
connection-specific instructions.

Since the freerunner actually has an officially assigned mac address,
setting the correct address for the host (pc) side is possible. Newer
versions of the kernel do that, and the linux network drivers can
actually identify the freerunner connection as a connection through a
usb ethernet 'card', thus the ethX interface. Most systems reserve the
exact same ethX address for subsequent connections, so you can write
freerunner-specific routing instructions, for example.

HTH,

David


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The myth of non-functioning SIMs

2009-05-31 Thread David Fokkema
Hi list,

Wanting to start experimenting in earnest with my FR and Om2009 in
particular and already having missed some sms messages and calls, I
decided on getting a separate SIM card. I already had a prepaid,
non-data SIM from the olden days, so I decided on getting a subscription
(I mean: non pre-paid, but I think subscription is not the correct word
for it, or is it?) with a data option to replace my old SIM in time,
when my FR's 'ready'. Anyway, I now have an old-sim/old-phone (reliable)
and a new-sim/FR.

Having already upgraded calypso to firmware 11, I expected no problems
at all. Dark became my mood when Om2009 beta4 registered, but refused to
place and receive calls. Even darker when Om2008.12 refused to boot. Ah,
yes, some quirk (what quirk?) requires the FR to explicitly select the
'boot' option in NOR the first time. After that, Om2008.12 booted, but
refused to place calls without any delay (Om2009 decided to ponder the
question of placing a call or not for about 15 seconds). My old pre-paid
sim just works!

Searching the internet I recognized my new SIM in the photo gallery of
'working SIMs', so I was already mentally preparing myself to start
learning to debug calypso.

Then, it turned out that my brand new provider, Vodafone, had a large
service interruption which lasted from the evening I received my SIM to
some twenty-four hours later... Some coincidence.

Anyway, I'm happy now, since everything works, ;-)

David

PS: my friends and family don't quite 'get' me wanting to have a
somewhat not-yet-functional phone with beta-quality software (at best),
so they don't really appreciate my apprehension when nothing was
working, ;-)


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Re: Best graphics performance?

2009-05-28 Thread David Fokkema
On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 11:09 +0100, Chris Syntichakis wrote:
 
 2009/5/27 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com
 
 it's very clear that atm the FR doesn't have the horsepower it
 needs
 to run navit
 
 the problem is that these applications are not optimized for the
 Freerunner.

I can see that when people are talking about UI or gps API's and such,
but when applications are slow, I personally like to think that the
problem is not that these applications are not optimized for the
freerunner, they're not optimized at all. Period.

(Of course the authors are probably dividing their time between adding
new features and optimizing already implemented ones, so this only
reflects the current situation, not their many accomplishments)

David

  
 
 
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Re: Best graphics performance?

2009-05-28 Thread David Fokkema
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 10:07 +0200, arne anka wrote:
  freerunner, they're not optimized at all. Period.
 
 that's certainly true -- but if you write your app for a commonly used  
 desktop pc it is rather a matter of effort/result relationship how much  
 energy one spends on optimization.
 the estimated improvements are probably not worth mentioning, so one  
 rather goes for other tasks.

Agreed.

 that's why i proposed to give away a freerunner, so the developer might  
 actually see optimization make a difference, boosting his spirits ... ;-)

To be absolutely clear on this: I think it's a great idea! Of course,
unlike most cofundos tasks, we should give the bounty _before_ the task
is finished, ;-)

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Re: Best graphics performance?

2009-05-28 Thread David Fokkema
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 09:53 +0100, Tilman Baumann wrote:
 David Fokkema wrote:
  On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 10:07 +0200, arne anka wrote:
   freerunner, they're not optimized at all. Period.
 
  that's certainly true -- but if you write your app for a commonly used
  desktop pc it is rather a matter of effort/result relationship how much
  energy one spends on optimization.
  the estimated improvements are probably not worth mentioning, so one
  rather goes for other tasks.
 
  Agreed.
 
  that's why i proposed to give away a freerunner, so the developer might
  actually see optimization make a difference, boosting his spirits ...
  ;-)
 
  To be absolutely clear on this: I think it's a great idea!
 
 Let's see if the Navit guy)s) thin the same way. For now it looks like
 nobody is awake there at the mailing list...

That's a shame. Hopefully, somebody will wake up before long... Of
course, it would be nice to give the FR to a person who's actually
looking forward to this task.

 
  Of course,
  unlike most cofundos tasks, we should give the bounty _before_ the task
  is finished, ;-)
 
 Sure. I would only like to use it to track commitment. Because I don't
 want to buy the phone all by my self.

That's a sensible thing to do, ;-) After all, they're not _that_ cheap,
unless you happen to go to debconf.

David


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Re: Best graphics performance?

2009-05-28 Thread David Fokkema
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 11:07 +0200, arne anka wrote:
  After all, they're not _that_ cheap,
  unless you happen to go to debconf.
 
 huh?

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/05/msg3.html


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Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-23 Thread David Fokkema
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 19:07 +0300, Alexander Shulgin wrote:
 On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Chris Jenks ch...@jenks.us wrote:
 
  On Fri, 22 May 2009, Alexander Shulgin wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Just flashed the latest images and now I get this on boot:
 
  In: /var/cache: No space left on device
  (+ a few more, /var/lock among them)
 
  The phone boots up to om-gta02 login prompt.  X doesn't start and usb
  networking doesn't work either.
 
  Tried to reformat uSD card, but this didn't help (didn't expect this
  to work, however).
 
  What can I do about the problem?  Anyone else getting the same?
 
  --
  Alex
 
I didn't even notice the /var/cache problem (wasn't paying attention),
  and I haven't had any problem with the X server, but I can confirm the usb
  networking problem - I don't get a usb0 interface on my connected desktop
  as I did with the testing version from the 9th. Also, I tracked the
  problem down to the root image - the u-boot and kernel images, flashed
  back to the working images on the 9th, don't fix the problem. ...
 
 Oh, silly me.  I just realized I didn't reflash the boot loader.  Will
 try a bit later.

As to your usb0 problem, you might want to read the release notes. The
fact that it doesn't show up means that finally, the usb0 issue is
fixed. Hopefully, you'll never see usb0 again. Congratulations!

David


 
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Re: OM Freakout

2009-05-15 Thread David Fokkema
On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 09:30 -0500, Sean Chadwell wrote:
 Just a minute ago, I pushed the power button to wake the phone, and it
 totally freaked out, making a kind of scratchy buzzing sound and
 vibrating. The AUX button glowed red and the power button glowed
 purple. I had to pull the battery. 

I don't know about the leds, but the scratching sound I believe is the
default ring tone, :-P

Seriously, maybe someone can tell us what should happen on a kernel
oops? Leds, audio, buzzer... sounds like your phone activated everything
it could. No WSOD?

David


 
 
 Rebooted without incident.
 
 
 This is a GTA02, with 2008.12 . . .
 
 
 Any ideas what that was about?
 
 
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Re: OM Freakout

2009-05-15 Thread David Fokkema
On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 11:51 -0500, Sean Chadwell wrote:
 LOL. (But this one mostly works, mostly.)

I must say I'm pretty impressed with Om2009 beta3. Haven't used it
extensively, though, and it really doesn't look as nice as Om2008.12,
but it probably can, in the near future.

David


 
 On 5/15/09, Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt wrote:
 
 
  Maybe it was telling you to install a newer distro.. ;)
 
  Citando Sean Chadwell smchadw...@gmail.com:
 
  Just a minute ago, I pushed the power button to wake the phone, and it
  totally freaked out, making a kind of scratchy buzzing sound and
  vibrating. The AUX button glowed red and the power button glowed purple. I
  had to pull the battery.   Rebooted without incident.   This is a GTA02,
  with 2008.12 . . .   Any ideas what that was about?   -Sean
 
 
 
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[Om2009] default route using wifi

2009-05-15 Thread David Fokkema
Hi list,

Trying out beta3 I actually could connect to my wpa2 enabled wifi
network by just using some buttons and my finger. Using the tiny
keyboard without a stylus is actually possible! I'm impressed. Checking
in a terminal, however, shows that the default route is still using
usb0, which is not connected. Is this reproducable?

Thanks,

David


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Re: Om2009 testing Release 2

2009-05-09 Thread David Fokkema
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 20:24 -0600, Angus Ainslie wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 21:17 +0200, David Fokkema wrote:
  
  Right now, I'm thinking that _only_ fso got updated, and the
  kernel/drivers are all the same. Alternatively, kernel drivers _were_
  updated and those changes are reflected in both the fso images (it is a
  rootfs with a /lib/modules/*, after all) and the stand-alone,
  use-with-homegrown-rootfs modules file. Which one's correct?
  
 
 fso, the feeds and the rootfs had some updates but most of the updates
 were to paroli. There have been kernel updates as well but there are a
 few bugs I don't want to bring in yet. To keep it stable I have opted to
 continue using an older kernel. This is not to minimize the work Nelson
 has been doing in the kernel, he will recommend a new kernel soon.

Ah, thanks for the answer! Now, of course, I'll flash release 3.

Regards,

David
 
 
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