Re: Qi causes WSOD (was Re: [2008.testing] WSOD)

2009-05-20 Thread Chris Jenks

On Wed, 20 May 2009, Joerg Reisenweber wrote:

 Am Mi  20. Mai 2009 schrieb Chris Jenks:
Apparently the qi version hosted there is mislabeled as 2.6.28, since I
 checked what got installed and it is indeed 2.6.29-rc2.

 Errr, Qi-version, kernel version???
 /j

Ouch! Yes, I meant kernel. I also just switched back to u-boot after 
getting the WSOD with the current Qi and current kernel.

The new GSM updater that boots and runs from uSD is very nice.

Chris

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Re: Qi causes WSOD (was Re: [2008.testing] WSOD)

2009-05-19 Thread Chris Jenks

On Thu, 14 May 2009, Angus Ainslie wrote:
 On May 13, 2009 03:11:36 pm einstein wrote:

 i have the same problem. i switch to uboot back so i can use the
 suspend. where i can find the 2.6.29 kernel?
 with the 2.6.29 kernel the problem is fixed?

 If you installed the kernel from

 http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/NeoFreerunner/

 Then you have the 2.6.29-rc2 kernel. To verify

 uname -a

 Angus

   Apparently the qi version hosted there is mislabeled as 2.6.28, since I 
checked what got installed and it is indeed 2.6.29-rc2.

Chris

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Re: Qi causes WSOD (was Re: [2008.testing] WSOD)

2009-05-19 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi  20. Mai 2009 schrieb Chris Jenks:
Apparently the qi version hosted there is mislabeled as 2.6.28, since I 
 checked what got installed and it is indeed 2.6.29-rc2.

Errr, Qi-version, kernel version???
/j


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Re: Qi causes WSOD (was Re: [2008.testing] WSOD)

2009-05-13 Thread Chris Jenks

On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote:

 2009/2/22 Jeffrey Ratcliffe jeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com:
 The only other thing I did around the same time was to replace uBoot with Qi.

 To test this, I booted into NOR, thereby using uBoot, and then booted
 the 2.4.24 image again (which I had reflashed). Resume then works
 without WSOD.

 i.e. Qi, for me at least, causes WSOD.
[...]

I've been playing with the beta Om 2009 consisting of fso-paroli-image, 
uImage 2.6.38 and Qi 1.0.2 dated 5/8-5/9 but was getting the WSOD when 
resuming from suspend. I replaced Qi with u-boot 1.3.1 and can now resume 
properly.

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Re: Qi causes WSOD (was Re: [2008.testing] WSOD)

2009-05-13 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
2009/5/13 Chris Jenks ch...@jenks.us:
 I've been playing with the beta Om 2009 consisting of fso-paroli-image,
 uImage 2.6.38 and Qi 1.0.2 dated 5/8-5/9 but was getting the WSOD when
 resuming from suspend. I replaced Qi with u-boot 1.3.1 and can now resume
 properly.

Although, from what I understand, 2.6.28  uboot don't suspend
properly. I have Qi and 2.6.29 in flash, which works fine, and 2.6.28
on an SD, which gives me WSOD - i.e. the kernel is really at fault,
not Qi.

Regards

Jeff

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Re: Qi causes WSOD (was Re: [2008.testing] WSOD)

2009-05-13 Thread einstein
Chris Jenks wrote:
 On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote:

   
 2009/2/22 Jeffrey Ratcliffe jeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com:
 
 The only other thing I did around the same time was to replace uBoot with 
 Qi.
   
 To test this, I booted into NOR, thereby using uBoot, and then booted
 the 2.4.24 image again (which I had reflashed). Resume then works
 without WSOD.

 i.e. Qi, for me at least, causes WSOD.
 [...]
 

 I've been playing with the beta Om 2009 consisting of fso-paroli-image, 
 uImage 2.6.38 and Qi 1.0.2 dated 5/8-5/9 but was getting the WSOD when 
 resuming from suspend. I replaced Qi with u-boot 1.3.1 and can now resume 
 properly.
   
i have the same problem. i switch to uboot back so i can use the 
suspend. where i can find the 2.6.29 kernel?
with the 2.6.29 kernel the problem is fixed?

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Re: Re: Qi causes WSOD (was Re: [2008.testing] WSOD)

2009-05-13 Thread jeffrey . ratcliffe

On May 13, 2009 11:11pm, einstein mailingl...@freeyourphone.de wrote:

i have the same problem. i switch to uboot back so i can use the
suspend. where i can find the 2.6.29 kernel?
with the 2.6.29 kernel the problem is fixed?


I use the 2.6.29 kernel from SHR-testing, and with that and Qi,  
suspend/resume works properly.


Regards

Jeff
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Qi causes WSOD (was Re: [2008.testing] WSOD)

2009-02-23 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
2009/2/22 Jeffrey Ratcliffe jeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com:
 The only other thing I did around the same time was to replace uBoot with Qi.

To test this, I booted into NOR, thereby using uBoot, and then booted
the 2.4.24 image again (which I had reflashed). Resume then works
without WSOD.

i.e. Qi, for me at least, causes WSOD.

The suspend process seems different, too - with uBoot, the fade to
black is gradual, but with Qi, it is more or less instantaneous, with
a click, as if a relay was switching.

I'll get the friend of mine to redo the SD/GPS fix to make sure that
has nothing to do with it, but I doubt it.

Regards

Jeff

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Re: Qi causes WSOD (was Re: [2008.testing] WSOD)

2009-02-23 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| 2009/2/22 Jeffrey Ratcliffe jeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com:
| The only other thing I did around the same time was to replace uBoot
with Qi.
|
| To test this, I booted into NOR, thereby using uBoot, and then booted
| the 2.4.24 image again (which I had reflashed). Resume then works
| without WSOD.
|
| i.e. Qi, for me at least, causes WSOD.
|
| The suspend process seems different, too - with uBoot, the fade to
| black is gradual, but with Qi, it is more or less instantaneous, with
| a click, as if a relay was switching.

Suspend and resume on 2.6.24 only works by luck, it's not telling us much.

But on community list, I see people reporting the same thing with
2.6.28-rc4.  Why are people shipping 2.6.28-rc4 and not 2.6.29-rc2 in
our stable branch?  No idea.

However, Qi works perfectly fine with suspend and resume here on recent
andy-tracking and worked fine ever since the original WSOD fixes.

| I'll get the friend of mine to redo the SD/GPS fix to make sure that
| has nothing to do with it, but I doubt it.

I wouldn't bother, I doubt it has anything to do with it.

- -Andy

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Re: Re: Qi causes WSOD (was Re: [2008.testing] WSOD)

2009-02-23 Thread jeffrey . ratcliffe

On Feb 24, 2009 2:31am, Andy Green a...@openmoko.com wrote:

Suspend and resume on 2.6.24 only works by luck, it's not telling us much.


OK. You are saying that with uBoot+2.6.24, it wasn't suspending properly,  
hence resume worked, but with Qi+2.6.24, suspend worked, but resume is  
broken.


Why does Qi/uBoot affect this?

What distro do I need to flash to test this properly (ie which diistro is  
using 2.6.28 or 2.6.29)? FSO? I understand that I can't simply flash 2.6.29  
onto 2008.12 as the userspace file structure is different.


Which kernel is Debian using 2.6.24?

Regards

Jeff
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Re: Qi causes WSOD (was Re: [2008.testing] WSOD)

2009-02-23 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| On Feb 24, 2009 2:31am, Andy Green a...@openmoko.com wrote:
|   Suspend and resume on 2.6.24 only works by luck, it's not telling us
| much.
|
| OK. You are saying that with uBoot+2.6.24, it wasn't suspending
| properly, hence resume worked, but with Qi+2.6.24, suspend worked, but
| resume is broken.

What I mean is that it's known 2.6.24 kernel stuff is broken for suspend
/ resume in a deep way, if it happens to work it's basically chance.  So
hearing that it doesn't work properly under some conditions don't give a
good clue, since it can break under different timing or interrupts or
whatever happening.  2.6.28+ stuff has this fixed, so misbehaviour on
resume means a smaller set of possibilities and we can start to imagine
what can be happening.

| Why does Qi/uBoot affect this?

I think it's to do with the sequencing of power / init to the LCM.  In
U-Boot, we bring up the Glamo and LCM to show the boot logo.  In Qi, we
do not bring up the Glamo LCD controller nor program the LCM until the
Linux drivers start.

We know that the guts of the LCM are not entirely under control since
the last WSOD business, there's some people reporting monochrome display
after resume as well.  But it varies by physical LCM, I run Qi for
months every build and I don't see any of it on my test GTA02.

| What distro do I need to flash to test this properly (i.e. which diistro
| is using 2.6.28 or 2.6.29)? FSO? I understand that I can't simply flash
| 2.6.29 onto 2008.12 as the userspace file structure is different.
|
| Which kernel is Debian using 2.6.24?

This FSO v5 thing, really anything with 2.6.28 should also work well
with 2.6.29 stuff.

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[2008.testing] WSOD

2009-02-22 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
My FR suffers from the buzzing problem, and so I got a friend of mine
who does that sort of soldering every day as part of his job to do the
big-C fix, and whilst he was at it, the SD/GPS fix.

Ever since the fixes were done, my FR gets the WSOD, i.e. on resume,
the screen goes white, and then fades to black, starting in the
middle. Without the SD card, the white screen take much longer to
fade, and then to vertical light grey stripes of various widths, a bit
like a faded barcode.

I assume that the big-C fix can have nothing to do with this, but I
wondered if the SD/GPS fix could. Removing the 10pF cap, however made
no difference, I still never get the FR to come out of resume
properly.

The only other thing I did around the same time was to replace uBoot with Qi.

To see if a more recent kernel would make a difference, I flashed
uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r3-om-gta02.bin,
but resume problems remain.

Any ideas what I can do to sort this out?

Regards

Jeff

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