Re: HW problems ...

2008-08-23 Thread Edgar D' Souza
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Zack Mollusc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m shell
 libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc.
 This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

 rv
 # # Get revision
 revision: HW: GTA02BV5, GSM:
[]

 Mine powers up on the mains charger too! Mine says date code 20080717
 and arrived complete with the cap soldered on the sd card socket.
 I can relax about letting the battery going flat now :-)

20080618, revision: HW: GTA02BV5, GSM:
gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-Moko8
Doesn't boot without the battery :-((
Requires battery in to even get the NOR boot menu; removed battery
after that and chose to Boot; it shows splash screens but powers off
abruptly just before starting X, apparently. Reinserting the battery
automatically powers it on and boots the phone :)

Ed.

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HW problems ...

2008-08-22 Thread Pietro Abate
Hi all,

I've read of the hw problems in the wiki. Now I got my freerunner
the other day and I can boot without a battery (while reading the wiki,
I understood that this wasn't possible) and I can see a tiny soldering
between the 3rd and 4th pin of the sd card (this should be related to
the GPS problem). Have these two HW bugs been fixed in the new 
freerunners shipped recently ? This news would make me happy :)

And a last question. Can I use the freerunner without a gsm sim card ?
ATM I don't have one and it seems the default system gets stuck
in the gsm registering loop.

thanks
pp

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Re: HW problems ...

2008-08-22 Thread Michael Shiloh


Pietro Abate wrote:
 forgot to say. The datecode on my freerunner is 20080728
 It also powers up with the charger and no battery.

What is the version of your hardware?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m shell
libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc.
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

rv
# # Get revision
revision: HW: GTA02BV5, GSM:
 
 Is the wiki now outdated ?
 
 pp
 
 On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 05:14:30PM +0200, Pietro Abate wrote:
 Hi all,

 I've read of the hw problems in the wiki. Now I got my freerunner
 the other day and I can boot without a battery (while reading the wiki,
 I understood that this wasn't possible) and I can see a tiny soldering
 between the 3rd and 4th pin of the sd card (this should be related to
 the GPS problem). Have these two HW bugs been fixed in the new 
 freerunners shipped recently ? This news would make me happy :)

I don't know,  but other readers of this list will know and respond.



 And a last question. Can I use the freerunner without a gsm sim card ?

Yes

 ATM I don't have one and it seems the default system gets stuck
 in the gsm registering loop.

As expected with no SIM card. You can purchase a pay-as-you-go for as 
little as $10, if you want.

M

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Re: HW problems ...

2008-08-22 Thread Zack Mollusc
Michael Shiloh wrote:
 Pietro Abate wrote:
   
 forgot to say. The datecode on my freerunner is 20080728
 It also powers up with the charger and no battery.
 

 What is the version of your hardware?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m shell
 libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc.
 This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

 rv
 # # Get revision
 revision: HW: GTA02BV5, GSM:
   
 Is the wiki now outdated ?

 pp

 On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 05:14:30PM +0200, Pietro Abate wrote:
 
 Hi all,

 I've read of the hw problems in the wiki. Now I got my freerunner
 the other day and I can boot without a battery (while reading the wiki,
 I understood that this wasn't possible) and I can see a tiny soldering
 between the 3rd and 4th pin of the sd card (this should be related to
 the GPS problem). Have these two HW bugs been fixed in the new 
 freerunners shipped recently ? This news would make me happy :)
   

 I don't know,  but other readers of this list will know and respond.


   
 And a last question. Can I use the freerunner without a gsm sim card ?
   

 Yes

   
 ATM I don't have one and it seems the default system gets stuck
 in the gsm registering loop.
   

 As expected with no SIM card. You can purchase a pay-as-you-go for as 
 little as $10, if you want.

 M

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Mine powers up on the mains charger too! Mine says date code 20080717
and arrived complete with the cap soldered on the sd card socket.
I can relax about letting the battery going flat now :-)




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Re: HW problems ...

2008-08-22 Thread Nicolas Dufresne
Le vendredi 22 août 2008 à 18:50 +0100, Zack Mollusc a écrit :

 Mine powers up on the mains charger too! Mine says date code 20080717
 and arrived complete with the cap soldered on the sd card socket.
 I can relax about letting the battery going flat now :-)


Is this fixable (by experts) on previous phones ? I wouldn't mind to pay
for the service ... this way I won't get paranoïd when I'm far from a
USB source.

regards,
Nicolas
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Re: HW problems ...

2008-08-22 Thread Michael Shiloh


Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
   Le vendredi 22 août 2008 à 18:50 +0100, Zack Mollusc a écrit :
 Mine powers up on the mains charger too! Mine says date code 20080717
 and arrived complete with the cap soldered on the sd card socket.
 I can relax about letting the battery going flat now :-)
 
 Is this fixable (by experts) on previous phones ? I wouldn't mind to pay 
 for the service ... this way I won't get paranoïd when I'm far from a 
 USB source.

Hi Nicolas,

I'd sure like to know what version of hardware you have. There was some 
discussion of adding a larger capacitor somewhere, I'm not sure if that 
was the only modification or in fact whether it helped at all. There was 
also a lot of work being done on the software side by delaying powering 
up various components until sufficient power was confirmed.


Michael

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Re: HW problems ...

2008-08-22 Thread Nicolas Dufresne
Le vendredi 22 août 2008 à 15:27 -0700, Michael Shiloh a écrit :

 I'd sure like to know what version of hardware you have.


Here's what reported by the gsm-tool:
# # Get revision
revision: HW: GTA02BV5

I've got mine right before the OLS, about at the same time they annonced
the known bugs. So I don't have the capacitor on the SD connector.

thanks,
Nicolas
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