Re: GPRS experience on FSO 4 (was: Re: Once a whiner)
This is a known issue. There is a patch (on gsm0710muxd) written by PaulFertser which implements write buffer for the pty's. This worked great for me before I did a opkg update; opkg upgrade. and that patch is now applied. I need to do some more testing to figure out why the problem came back. It could be that gsm0710muxd is not operating in its main loop or it could be an FSO issue. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Once a whiner
2009/1/9 Marcus Stong sto...@gmail.com I'd just like to say, for all the whiners using om 2008.x (I've been one just recently, too), try FSO testing. I've been using it for a few days, and everything seems to work like a charm compared to OM2008.x. Umh... it seems it's not so stable...I was missing for the last 3 weeks so perhaps I'm outdated on some informations ;) However I installed the latest testing fso-image (14 jan), but it seems it has no X server, on the download page it seems as that from 13 Jan the image size is smaller than before. Is it something to be fixed or am I missing sometingh? The image from 13 jan is not able to mount root device, and that from 8 jan on the first boot freezed on the illume initial setup. I always thinked FSO is an hacker image to develop and test the framework, and that the FSO team is not focused on the pure image stabilization, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that now SHR is actually the only alternative to Qtextended and 2008.12 to be used both for production and for developing new applications in a quite stable system environment ? Nicola ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Once a whiner
Nicola Mfb wrote: 2009/1/9 Marcus Stong sto...@gmail.com mailto:sto...@gmail.com I'd just like to say, for all the whiners using om 2008.x (I've been one just recently, too), try FSO testing. I've been using it for a few days, and everything seems to work like a charm compared to OM2008.x. Umh... it seems it's not so stable...I was missing for the last 3 weeks so perhaps I'm outdated on some informations ;) However I installed the latest testing fso-image (14 jan), but it seems it has no X server, on the download page it seems as that from 13 Jan the image size is smaller than before. Is it something to be fixed or am I missing sometingh? The image from 13 jan is not able to mount root device, and that from 8 jan on the first boot freezed on the illume initial setup. I always thinked FSO is an hacker image to develop and test the framework, and that the FSO team is not focused on the pure image stabilization, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that now SHR is actually the only alternative to Qtextended and 2008.12 to be used both for production and for developing new applications in a quite stable system environment ? That's my experience. After more than enough frustration with basic stuff in 2008.x and FSO, I tried SHR (image 08.12.16) and I'm quite happy with it. Mind you, I'm not an intensive neither extensive phone user but I can easily pin the GSM code, call and add contacts. I love the screen keyboard although I could not find it by myself initially. I'm now playing with GPS, and it works but I'm getting long fix times (tried only a night in a single place). Plenty of apps to try out yet. Nicola ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Once a whiner
No, I did not enabled gprs. Le lundi 12 janvier 2009 à 11:55 -0500, Paul a écrit : On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Nicolas Dufresne nicolas.dufre...@gmail.com wrote: I had the same opinion until I've tried SHR. Sure SHR is not complete yet, but I've used it as a phone for 3 weeks from now, and it's quite reliable. The distro proves the quality of Framework combine with Enligntment based applications. I think we are progressing, but I also tend to agree that it would be nice to focus on less tools and less distros to gain high quality phone software like phone call, SMS, Contacts, Calendar and Alarms. Can I ask if you enabled gprs? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Once a whiner
I am currently building shr-unstable to try - been running a day or so, though had a few hiccups. Have tried shr before and liked it - just that it never ever registered so was a bit useless. I am hoping that building the image will allow me to track down why everything that uses the gsm0710mux fails to register - its almost like the gsm chipset locks up with the SIM I am using (vodafone.au). BillK On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 07:48 -0500, Nicolas Dufresne wrote: I had the same opinion until I've tried SHR. Sure SHR is not complete yet, but I've used it as a phone for 3 weeks from now, and it's quite reliable. The distro proves the quality of Framework combine with Enligntment based applications. I think we are progressing, but I also tend to agree that it would be nice to focus on less tools and less distros to gain high quality phone software like phone call, SMS, Contacts, Calendar and Alarms. Best regards, Nicolas Le lundi 12 janvier 2009 à 13:59 +0900, William Kenworthy a écrit : Still, it will crash at least once a day with suspend failures, fails to register, BSODs, event/0 runaway, lost SMS messages, ... Even if you dont use it once registered, its only a matter of a few hours and something will go wrong. -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Once a whiner
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Nicolas Dufresne nicolas.dufre...@gmail.com wrote: I had the same opinion until I've tried SHR. Sure SHR is not complete yet, but I've used it as a phone for 3 weeks from now, and it's quite reliable. The distro proves the quality of Framework combine with Enligntment based applications. I think we are progressing, but I also tend to agree that it would be nice to focus on less tools and less distros to gain high quality phone software like phone call, SMS, Contacts, Calendar and Alarms. Can I ask if you enabled gprs? -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Once a whiner
Do you use the 2.6.28 kernel from http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso- testing/images/om-gta02/ ? At boot time it says Bad CRC and stops booting. So I used the kernel from MS 4.1 and the Freerunner is booting... On Friday January 9 2009 17:00:39 Marcus Stong wrote: I'd just like to say, for all the whiners using om 2008.x (I've been one just recently, too), try FSO testing. I've been using it for a few days, and everything seems to work like a charm compared to OM2008.x. Suspend works great, battery life is killer, boot time is good, telephony seems solid. Granted there's no UI for wifi and no bluetooth support, it's still eons ahead of OM2008 as far as I can tell. Really, I think everyone needs to get over om2008, including open moko, because it just doesn't work. But I have renewed faith in my phone now that I've installed FSO. Great job FSO team! ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [FSO]: zhone patch for reading vcf instead of sim. was: Re: Once a whiner
Thanks for resending your patch. I have missed your old mail.
It works like a charm.
However, Zhone has problems with number like +49-1234-. I removed the -
and replaced the + with 00.
I added the patch to the Wiki:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Zhone
On Saturday January 10 2009 11:20:32 arne anka wrote:
here it is.
the code looks for addressbook.vcf in the user's $HOME and reads it in.
multiple numbers per contact are supported.
in /usr/bin/zhone search for
class pyphone_contacts(edje_group):
and find some lines below
def prepare( self ):
and modify like below (be aware of unintentional linebreaks!)
def prepare( self ):
if not self.ready and not self.busy:
file = open(os.environ.get('HOME')+/addressbook.vcf, r)
entries = []
entry_nr = 1
name = None
number = None
for line in file:
#if line.startswith(END:VCARD):
if line.startswith(TEL;):
number = unicode(line.partition(:)[2].strip())
if name and number:
entry = entry_nr, name, number
entries.append(entry)
entry_nr = entry_nr + 1
if line.startswith(END:VCARD):
name = None
number = None
if line.startswith(N:):
name = unicode(line.partition(:)[2].replace(';','
').strip(), utf8, utf8)
#if line.startswith(TEL;):
#number = unicode(line.partition(:)[2].strip())
file.close()
self.cbPhonebookReply(entries)
if dbus_object.gsm_device_obj:
logger.info( retrieving phonebook... )
dbus_object.gsm_sim_iface.RetrievePhonebook(
contacts,
reply_handler=self.cbPhonebookReply,
error_handler=self.cbPhonebookError
)
self.busy = True
else:
# Fake phonebook...
self.cbPhonebookReply( [
(1, u'Kirk', '+023224433'),
(2, u'Spock', '+034433463'),
(3, u'McCoy', '+013244344'),
(4, u'Scott', '+013244344'),
(5, u'Uhura', '+013244344'),
(6, u'Sulu', '+013244344'),
(7, u'Chekov', '+456663443'),
] )
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Re: Once a whiner
I have just flashed fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2 (20090108). It took me several tries until it finally flashed. I got several dfu errors (110, 84 and plenty 71). After a couple switch off/on it finally worked. Unfortunately I can't get the phone app to work. I get always Zhone stopped running unexpectedly. BTW, FSO makes the phone look more computer like, than om2008 versions. I'm not sure that's what I expect from a phone. om2008.12 doesn't seem bad to me except that the keyboard makes it useless (I can't properly input a contact, delete is a joke, guessing words is total bullocks). Sorry to be harsh on the developers, but even after reading wiki/lists I couldn't avoid the disappointment; it's 80% there, but the last 20% truly are critical to me. Fernando Sven Klomp wrote: Do you use the 2.6.28 kernel from http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso- testing/images/om-gta02/ ? At boot time it says Bad CRC and stops booting. So I used the kernel from MS 4.1 and the Freerunner is booting... On Friday January 9 2009 17:00:39 Marcus Stong wrote: I'd just like to say, for all the whiners using om 2008.x (I've been one just recently, too), try FSO testing. I've been using it for a few days, and everything seems to work like a charm compared to OM2008.x. Suspend works great, battery life is killer, boot time is good, telephony seems solid. Granted there's no UI for wifi and no bluetooth support, it's still eons ahead of OM2008 as far as I can tell. Really, I think everyone needs to get over om2008, including open moko, because it just doesn't work. But I have renewed faith in my phone now that I've installed FSO. Great job FSO team! ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Once a whiner
Most of the distros require work before being usable. The asu theme in 2008.x is broken for all but token uses - switch to illume and read the wiki about the keyboards. Helps a huge amount. Still, it will crash at least once a day with suspend failures, fails to register, BSODs, event/0 runaway, lost SMS messages, ... Even if you dont use it once registered, its only a matter of a few hours and something will go wrong. :( BillK On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 00:31 +0100, Fernando Martins wrote: I have just flashed fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2 (20090108). It took me several tries until it finally flashed. I got several dfu errors (110, 84 and plenty 71). After a couple switch off/on it finally worked. Unfortunately I can't get the phone app to work. I get always Zhone stopped running unexpectedly. BTW, FSO makes the phone look more computer like, than om2008 versions. I'm not sure that's what I expect from a phone. om2008.12 doesn't seem bad to me except that the keyboard makes it useless (I can't properly input a contact, delete is a joke, guessing words is total bullocks). Sorry to be harsh on the developers, but even after reading wiki/lists I couldn't avoid the disappointment; it's 80% there, but the last 20% truly are critical to me. Fernando Sven Klomp wrote: Do you use the 2.6.28 kernel from http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso- testing/images/om-gta02/ ? At boot time it says Bad CRC and stops booting. So I used the kernel from MS 4.1 and the Freerunner is booting... On Friday January 9 2009 17:00:39 Marcus Stong wrote: I'd just like to say, for all the whiners using om 2008.x (I've been one just recently, too), try FSO testing. I've been using it for a few days, and everything seems to work like a charm compared to OM2008.x. Suspend works great, battery life is killer, boot time is good, telephony seems solid. Granted there's no UI for wifi and no bluetooth support, it's still eons ahead of OM2008 as far as I can tell. Really, I think everyone needs to get over om2008, including open moko, because it just doesn't work. But I have renewed faith in my phone now that I've installed FSO. Great job FSO team! ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
[FSO]: zhone patch for reading vcf instead of sim. was: Re: Once a whiner
here it is.
the code looks for addressbook.vcf in the user's $HOME and reads it in.
multiple numbers per contact are supported.
in /usr/bin/zhone search for
class pyphone_contacts(edje_group):
and find some lines below
def prepare( self ):
and modify like below (be aware of unintentional linebreaks!)
def prepare( self ):
if not self.ready and not self.busy:
file = open(os.environ.get('HOME')+/addressbook.vcf, r)
entries = []
entry_nr = 1
name = None
number = None
for line in file:
#if line.startswith(END:VCARD):
if line.startswith(TEL;):
number = unicode(line.partition(:)[2].strip())
if name and number:
entry = entry_nr, name, number
entries.append(entry)
entry_nr = entry_nr + 1
if line.startswith(END:VCARD):
name = None
number = None
if line.startswith(N:):
name = unicode(line.partition(:)[2].replace(';','
').strip(), utf8, utf8)
#if line.startswith(TEL;):
#number = unicode(line.partition(:)[2].strip())
file.close()
self.cbPhonebookReply(entries)
if dbus_object.gsm_device_obj:
logger.info( retrieving phonebook... )
dbus_object.gsm_sim_iface.RetrievePhonebook(
contacts,
reply_handler=self.cbPhonebookReply,
error_handler=self.cbPhonebookError
)
self.busy = True
else:
# Fake phonebook...
self.cbPhonebookReply( [
(1, u'Kirk', '+023224433'),
(2, u'Spock', '+034433463'),
(3, u'McCoy', '+013244344'),
(4, u'Scott', '+013244344'),
(5, u'Uhura', '+013244344'),
(6, u'Sulu', '+013244344'),
(7, u'Chekov', '+456663443'),
] )
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Once a whiner
I'd just like to say, for all the whiners using om 2008.x (I've been one just recently, too), try FSO testing. I've been using it for a few days, and everything seems to work like a charm compared to OM2008.x. Suspend works great, battery life is killer, boot time is good, telephony seems solid. Granted there's no UI for wifi and no bluetooth support, it's still eons ahead of OM2008 as far as I can tell. Really, I think everyone needs to get over om2008, including open moko, because it just doesn't work. But I have renewed faith in my phone now that I've installed FSO. Great job FSO team! ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Once a whiner
Hi On Friday 09 January 2009 17:00:39 Marcus Stong wrote: Suspend works great, battery life is killer, boot time is good, telephony seems solid. Granted there's no UI for wifi and no bluetooth support, it's The only thing that prevents me of using FSO is the import of phone numbers. I couldn't found a hint on how to import a vcf file. Sven ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Once a whiner
The only thing that prevents me of using FSO is the import of phone numbers. I couldn't found a hint on how to import a vcf file. so far there's no pim implemented -- zhone only reads from sim. but it is really simple to patch zhone accordingly. search the archives, i think i posted a patch a while ago and certainly someone else did in september or so. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Once a whiner
Marcus Stong wrote: I'd just like to say, for all the whiners using om 2008.x (I've been one just recently, too), try FSO testing. I've been using it for a few days, and everything seems to work like a charm compared to OM2008.x. Thanks for the tip. Suspend works great, battery life is killer, boot time is good, telephony seems solid. Granted there's no UI for wifi and no bluetooth support, it's still eons ahead of OM2008 as far as I can tell. Really, I think everyone needs to get over om2008, including open moko, because it just doesn't work. But I have renewed faith in my phone now that I've installed FSO. Great job FSO team! What is your battery life like? -- Regards, Jan Henkins ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Once a whiner
Gothnet, Will do, was going to wait a few weeks - Milestone 5 is out sometime this month IIRC? Yes, according to the roadmap it's January 31st: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/roadmap Wolfgang On Jan 10, 2009, at 12:04 AM, Gothnet wrote: Markku wrote: I'd just like to say, for all the whiners using om 2008.x (I've been one just recently, too), try FSO testing. I've been using it for a few days, and everything seems to work like a charm compared to OM2008.x. Suspend works great, battery life is killer, boot time is good, telephony seems solid. Granted there's no UI for wifi and no bluetooth support, it's still eons ahead of OM2008 as far as I can tell. Really, I think everyone needs to get over om2008, including open moko, because it just doesn't work. But I have renewed faith in my phone now that I've installed FSO. Great job FSO team! Will do, was going to wait a few weeks - Milestone 5 is out sometime this month IIRC? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Once-a-whiner-tp2133902p2133919.html Sent from the Openmoko Support mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Once a whiner
I just reflashed with the latest images from unstable. I can make phone calls kinda reliably, until it crashes. Receiving phone calls kinda works, although once I do, I can't release the phone call and the phone starts throwing errors. Am I doing something wrong? Are you guys enabling GPRS on the phone? I have that module enabled so I'm not sure if that's causing the problem. Thanks. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
