Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
Having got this working again by flashing the original factory images, today i somewhat recklessly flashed the 2008.8 release. I am again now unable to get usb0 to show up in my interfaces. Is there any way to fix this short of reverting to the 2007.2 release again? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/USB-networking-in-Ubuntu-tp666197p686056.html Sent from the Openmoko Support mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
Sorry. Cancel that. Removing the30 second suspend on FR seems to have fixed it -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/USB-networking-in-Ubuntu-tp666197p686080.html Sent from the Openmoko Support mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
How do I update my kernel by the packaging from inside the Freerunner? with opkg. usually opkg upgrade will upgrade the kernel as well. make sure your fr does not go to sleep while doing the upgrade and reboot afterwards to use the new kernel. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
LOL!! j. On Aug 6, 2008, at 9:23 AM, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am Mi 6. August 2008 schrieb Olivier Berger: Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe just adding the link by yourself would have been enough :-( Yay maybe. My job is to fix your hw and create new one, not to supply links. Well... dunno what your employer tells you to do... but I consider good practice to provide explicit links to valid information for *customer support* interactions, rather than say Mr smith told something in past 48 hours when that mr smith posts tons of emails. At least, as a volunteer, I tend to provide explicit information (and complement with wiki editing) as much as I can... so I would expect so from professionals... but I guess you're overwhelmed by mail, so I know it's hard to take time to browse the web archives to retrieve a link and that adds extra burden compared to coding and such. But please, think about your customers. C'mon encourage me to give such information in the future, when I come along. Best regards jOERG Thanks for the good job, and sorry for my pendantic tone. P.S.: been working for years in SW industry for customer service on application maintainance, been there, done that ;) Just note I'm NOT customer support but hw-developer. I have a 10hours day to fix HW!!!-bugs, and the mailing lists spam me with ~600mails per day which I'm trying to read all of them. I really don't see any chance to care about providing links that anybodyelse could find easily, just for your convenience, while I might work same time another 5 min on what's I'm payed for. Ok, you convinced me to skip more mail unread, to think twice before answering to any ml-posting, and to save my time not to answer mail like this one from now on congrats cheers!!! jOERG ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
maybe this can help: disconnect cable, restart freerunner, when booted: connect cable try again worked once for me On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Richard Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a shame you have alienated the support staff on this list since I suspect I am not on my own in having difficulty getting USB networking between the freerunner and Ubuntu up and running. I am something of a Linux noob and a complete openmoko beginner and perhaps as such I was a little rash in taking this thing on. I am running Ubuntu 8.04 64 bit on an AMD64 box. I have spent a couple of days trawling google trying to get this going and late last week was successful enough to be able to upgrade my device. I thought at the time that maybe I should never power down my box again, but power it down I did. The problem I now have is that I am unable to get usb0 recognized as an interface by ifconfig. The command: ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 results in SIOCSIFADDR: No such device usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device I have tried modprobing usbnet and cdc_ether but the problem remains. Help from any quarter would be much appreciated as I am at my wits' end. Thanks, Richard -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/USB-networking-in-Ubuntu-tp666197p675456.html Sent from the Openmoko Support mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
The problem I now have is that I am unable to get usb0 recognized as an interface by ifconfig. The command: ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 results in SIOCSIFADDR: No such device usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device fr is plugged in and powered on? no suspend? if so, unplug it from the host pc, open a konsole/shell and do sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog have a look at the shell and plug in the fr again. any messages? there was a bug in one of the last u-boots, that broke about 50% of usb connections -- rebooting (the fr or the pc, couldn't figure out which, try fr first) is supposed to help. the lattest u-boots are supposed to fix that. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | The problem I now have is that I am unable to get usb0 recognized as an | interface by ifconfig. | | The command: | ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 | | results in | SIOCSIFADDR: No such device | usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device | | fr is plugged in and powered on? no suspend? | if so, unplug it from the host pc, open a konsole/shell and do | | sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog | | have a look at the shell and plug in the fr again. | any messages? | there was a bug in one of the last u-boots, that broke about 50% of usb | connections -- rebooting (the fr or the pc, couldn't figure out which, try | fr first) is supposed to help. | the lattest u-boots are supposed to fix that. Yes, there is another way to get this issue unfortunately too. We moved ~ USB over Ethernet support on the Freerunner into a module. But, it's commonly written around that folks should update their kernel by DFU. This was never a good idea for a modular kernel (it does nothing to update the modules) and now it's a really bad idea. If you update your kernel by the packaging from inside the Freerunner it won't make this problem as it updates the modules at the same time (now, anyway, there were other problems with that method until recently). If that's what's happened (try the Uboot update first though because that fits the symptom as well) best plan is nuke these guys on your device (kernel + matching rootfs) with dfu http://buildhost.openmoko.org/releases/Freerunner/ and start over. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiZeFoACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqUXACcC7xnLGScuoq5b0RTmmwdZ79y 3hsAnRFCyGb9feZAtNUzDLKPDqmfD28J =mbCO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
arne anka wrote: The problem I now have is that I am unable to get usb0 recognized as an interface by ifconfig. The command: ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 results in SIOCSIFADDR: No such device usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device there was a bug in one of the last u-boots, that broke about 50% of usb connections I know Ubuntu handles interfaces in a weird way and references them by MAC address. If Arne's suggestion doesn't help, run 'sudo ifconfig -a' at the terminal and post the output, along with the contents of /etc/iftab - you might find that the interface is not even called usb0. Aaron ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
The problem I now have is that I am unable to get usb0 recognized as an interface by ifconfig. The command: ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 results in SIOCSIFADDR: No such device usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device I have tried modprobing usbnet and cdc_ether but the problem remains. Help from any quarter would be much appreciated as I am at my wits' end. I haven't been tracking your problems, but are you *sure* that the usbnet module is loaded on your Freerunner? ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Aug 6 11:25:36 ubuntu kernel: [ 926.860809] cdc_acm 3-1:1.0: ttyACM0: USB | ACM device | It seems the device is detected just as it is powering down. Powering down or rebooting into U-Boot? - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiZgPMACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqcSwCeNrb3rGlDy2NgbZT3EzK2oMu5 OwEAn2vrHFjvDoJalRITickR6Mrn6Ki/ =y991 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
Andy Green wrote: Powering down or rebooting into U-Boot? - -Andy Sorry. You are correct. On watching the screen more closely it is clear that the device is detected early in its boot process. It then appears that the USB connection is lost 6 seconds later. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/USB-networking-in-Ubuntu-tp666197p675585.html Sent from the Openmoko Support mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
Andy Green wrote: Yes, there is another way to get this issue unfortunately too. We moved ~ USB over Ethernet support on the Freerunner into a module. But, it's commonly written around that folks should update their kernel by DFU. This was never a good idea for a modular kernel (it does nothing to update the modules) and now it's a really bad idea. If you update your kernel by the packaging from inside the Freerunner it won't make this problem as it updates the modules at the same time (now, anyway, there were other problems with that method until recently). If that's what's happened (try the Uboot update first though because that fits the symptom as well) best plan is nuke these guys on your device (kernel + matching rootfs) with dfu http://buildhost.openmoko.org/releases/Freerunner/ and start over. - -Andy Thanks. This seems to be the problem. I will reflash with DFU. I am not clear though how to avoid the same situation when I come to upgrade the phone again as I used opkg over ssh to upgrade and have not used dfu at all. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/USB-networking-in-Ubuntu-tp666197p675618.html Sent from the Openmoko Support mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
Ok. No problem. I'll have another go. Thanks. Andy Green wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | If you update your kernel by the packaging from inside the Freerunner it | won't make this problem as it updates the modules at the same time (now, | anyway, there were other problems with that method until recently). | Thanks. This seems to be the problem. I will reflash with DFU. I am not | clear though how to avoid the same situation when I come to upgrade the | phone again as I used opkg over ssh to upgrade and have not used dfu at all. For a day or two there the packaging didn't take care about bringing in the new module that was created. Now it pulls in all the modules needed automatically: sorry for the inconvenience. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiZjl0ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMrxzwCfYobI9U8ZgulT0aF49A958V4Z ENMAnRvXXVOIfJyRBL2urWH5Y1cQXqHu =SrJe -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/USB-networking-in-Ubuntu-tp666197p675636.html Sent from the Openmoko Support mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
Richard Cooke wrote: It is a shame you have alienated the support staff on this list since I suspect I am not on my own in having difficulty getting USB networking between the freerunner and Ubuntu up and running. I am something of a Linux noob and a complete openmoko beginner and perhaps as such I was a little rash in taking this thing on. I am running Ubuntu 8.04 64 bit on an AMD64 box. I have spent a couple of days trawling google trying to get this going and late last week was successful enough to be able to upgrade my device. I thought at the time that maybe I should never power down my box again, but power it down I did. The problem I now have is that I am unable to get usb0 recognized as an interface by ifconfig. The command: ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 results in SIOCSIFADDR: No such device usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device I have tried modprobing usbnet and cdc_ether but the problem remains. Help from any quarter would be much appreciated as I am at my wits' end. Thanks, Richard Hello, i am also a noob running umbongo (i am on 32bit 8.04) and i had a similar problem. I broke the whole thing on the fr and no longer had a gui, I flashed the root filesystem (Openmoko-Freerunner-20080424-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2)and seemed to lose usb connectivity, with similar host response, and after some vain faffing about with the host machine(i thought the usb port had become confused) , I flashed the kernel (uImage-2.6.24+git20080424-om-gta02.bin) and that seemed to fix it for me. Obviously I had to install the apps again. Good luck. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
Richard Cooke wrote: Yeah. Worked for me too. Spent a day fiddling with the wrong box before giving up and asking for help. Maybe there's a lesson to be learned here. Zack Mollusc wrote: Richard Cooke wrote: It is a shame you have alienated the support staff on this list since I suspect I am not on my own in having difficulty getting USB networking between the freerunner and Ubuntu up and running. I am something of a Linux noob and a complete openmoko beginner and perhaps as such I was a little rash in taking this thing on. I am running Ubuntu 8.04 64 bit on an AMD64 box. I have spent a couple of days trawling google trying to get this going and late last week was successful enough to be able to upgrade my device. I thought at the time that maybe I should never power down my box again, but power it down I did. The problem I now have is that I am unable to get usb0 recognized as an interface by ifconfig. The command: ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 results in SIOCSIFADDR: No such device usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device I have tried modprobing usbnet and cdc_ether but the problem remains. Help from any quarter would be much appreciated as I am at my wits' end. Thanks, Richard Hello, i am also a noob running umbongo (i am on 32bit 8.04) and i had a similar problem. I broke the whole thing on the fr and no longer had a gui, I flashed the root filesystem (Openmoko-Freerunner-20080424-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2)and seemed to lose usb connectivity, with similar host response, and after some vain faffing about with the host machine(i thought the usb port had become confused) , I flashed the kernel (uImage-2.6.24+git20080424-om-gta02.bin) and that seemed to fix it for me. Obviously I had to install the apps again. Good luck. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support Hehe, i booted the host multiple times and connected different USB things to it trying to work out what was wrong with the USB port. :-) ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:09 AM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yes, there is another way to get this issue unfortunately too. We moved ~ USB over Ethernet support on the Freerunner into a module. But, it's commonly written around that folks should update their kernel by DFU. This was never a good idea for a modular kernel (it does nothing to update the modules) and now it's a really bad idea. If you update your kernel by the packaging from inside the Freerunner it won't make this problem as it updates the modules at the same time How do I update my kernel by the packaging from inside the Freerunner? Thanks, Matt ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Unnecessary rant - Was: Re: USB networking in Ubuntu
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | If you update your kernel by the packaging from inside the Freerunner it | won't make this problem as it updates the modules at the same time (now, | anyway, there were other problems with that method until recently). | Thanks. This seems to be the problem. I will reflash with DFU. I am not | clear though how to avoid the same situation when I come to upgrade the | phone again as I used opkg over ssh to upgrade and have not used dfu at all. For a day or two there the packaging didn't take care about bringing in the new module that was created. Now it pulls in all the modules needed automatically: sorry for the inconvenience. - -Andy Presumably, for those who have upgraded the kernel but don't have the usb-net modules, they could be downloaded, or extracted and loaded onto the sd and then installed. Would save flashing. Matt ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
