Re: neo1973 does not power on.
El Thursday, 25 de September de 2008 15:44:45 [EMAIL PROTECTED] va escriure: That sounds very likely what I did. I will check the fstab entry on the sd card, but I'm almost certain it was mtdblock0. On the minus side this means I will definitely need a debug board, but at least it is highly likely to not be a waste of money and effort. You can also ask on the list if is someone with a debug-board near you. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: neo1973 does not power on.
El Thursday, 25 de September de 2008 05:09:57 [EMAIL PROTECTED] va escriure: After hooking it up to my external power supply, I'm able to see it starts to draw ~50mA when I hit the power button. It never actually responds just sits there draining away the battery. I'm sure you managed to brick your 1973, I did it myself last january, with the same result making it a /dev/null for charge. I mounted /dev/mtdblock0 by accident instead of /dev/mtdblock4 (I had a bad $mtdparts on the sd entry) and jffs2 reclaimed some unused space. This could happen as resulto of this action (in the head message): 1) I added the onboard fs to my fstab in my SD debian install so that I could access it while booted into debian. the answer to your question in the previous message: 2) Will the newer Debug board that comes with the GTA02 work with the GTA01? Is acording to the wiki YES, see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debug_Board_v3 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Debug_Board_v2/Unbricking ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: neo1973 does not power on.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Michael + Andy, | I haven't had it plugged in since I had the problem a couple days ago. so I am | pretty certain the back up battery is empty. I tried just powering it up now | that I've waited and nothing. | | I also tried the boot to NOR uboot procedure and nothing happened. | | It looks like the battery is a little low now so I'm going to see if it will | work after I let it charge up. | | Just to be clear this is a GTA01Bv4. Michael pointed it out too -- I didn't notice we are talking about GTA01 instead of GTA02; it's no wonder you didn't mention NOR because there isn't one on there. Sorry for the noise. (Kernel sources are the last holdout where neo1973 tag refers to both GTA01 and GTA02, so seeing neo1973 didn't trigger me to think about GTA01). If something bad did happen to U-Boot bit of the NAND then you are going to need a debug board to recover if I understood it, so let's hope you get lucky after some charging. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjZ2acACgkQOjLpvpq7dMr5ygCfUdrZCtMdnBJS9DPm+FFK6Hpc 7QIAnjTVtczC/g7WDmC9cVfmUxYyimZa =z0tw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: neo1973 does not power on.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | After letting the phone charge over night the battery voltage has dropped | significantly. I'm starting to suspect the battery or else the charging circuitry. | | which brings me to 2 questions: | 1) If I want to take the battery out of the equation and run this off my | variable power supply, what is a reasonable estimate for the max current it | should draw? If the third, middle, terminal ( I'm guessing a smart battery line) | isn't connected, should it still power up? If the GSM side transmits, it pulls 2A at that time, otherwise typically 300mA at battery. | 2) Will the newer Debug board that comes with the GTA02 work with the GTA01? I think so, but I never used GTA01 so I can't give you totally straight answer. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjaTJcACgkQOjLpvpq7dMo64wCePU0wfFVIkhXtjQ2OTVIHM1GN 2EQAni2cM6NHX8aqCYaT6wL1kl77MyxM =VwM8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
neo1973 does not power on.
After a recent reboot, the system never came back. Pushing the power button causes nothing to happen. I don't even seem to get into uboot(no logo screen). I don't have a debug board. I do not have a sim card. I've been running Debian off of the SD card mostly with success. I reflashed Uboot a few weeks ago, but have rebooted many times since then without incident. most recent changes (prior to last reboot): 1) I added the onboard fs to my fstab in my SD debian install so that I could access it while booted into debian. 2)I changed from the debian X.org server over to the Xfbdev server copied from the onboard fs. It worked fine when I did a startx. And I know it was running the Xfbdev server because I was able to screen rotates with xrandr. Things I've tried: 1) I tried pulling the battery, to clear state. Then restarting. 2) Letting it sit plugged in to make sure the battery had good charge. I measured 4.1 volts across the battery terminals(out of the phone). 3) I removed the SD card. and repeated the above steps. Any suggestions as to what to try next? Ted Kotz ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: neo1973 does not power on.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | After a recent reboot, the system never came back. Pushing the power button | causes nothing to happen. I don't even seem to get into uboot(no logo screen). I | don't have a debug board. I do not have a sim card. I've been running Debian off | of the SD card mostly with success. I reflashed Uboot a few weeks ago, but have | rebooted many times since then without incident. | | most recent changes (prior to last reboot): | 1) I added the onboard fs to my fstab in my SD debian install so that I could | access it while booted into debian. | 2)I changed from the debian X.org server over to the Xfbdev server copied from | the onboard fs. It worked fine when I did a startx. And I know it was running | the Xfbdev server because I was able to screen rotates with xrandr. | | Things I've tried: | 1) I tried pulling the battery, to clear state. Then restarting. | 2) Letting it sit plugged in to make sure the battery had good charge. I | measured 4.1 volts across the battery terminals(out of the phone). | 3) I removed the SD card. and repeated the above steps. | | | Any suggestions as to what to try next? See if this helps: pull the battery, wait a few seconds, then hold down AUX key and keep it down, reapply battery, hold power button in too, let go of AUX then let go of power button. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjZMCgACgkQOjLpvpq7dMriwwCfTxga3hBT0qZWhG/9RIbVGPwm weoAn3bDilTrPorc8gK+zp219s2E1sBT =ZRcy -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: neo1973 does not power on.
| After a recent reboot, the system never came back. Pushing the power button | causes nothing to happen. I don't even seem to get into uboot(no logo screen). See if this helps: pull the battery, wait a few seconds, then hold down AUX key and keep it down, reapply battery, hold power button in too, let go of AUX then let go of power button. Andy, For the curious, and for further enlightenment, can you explain what that does? Thanks, Michael ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: neo1973 does not power on.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | After a recent reboot, the system never came back. Pushing the power | button | | causes nothing to happen. I don't even seem to get into uboot(no logo | screen). | | See if this helps: pull the battery, wait a few seconds, then hold down | AUX key and keep it down, reapply battery, hold power button in too, let | go of AUX then let go of power button. | | | Andy, | | For the curious, and for further enlightenment, can you explain what | that does? It just starts him up in NOR U-Boot instead of NAND. The guy didn't mention NOR, it can be he trashed the NAND U-Boot during meddling with Debian and he will be able to recover via NOR if that's the case. I found on some devices with various vintages of NOR U-Boot and / or trouble you need to do that particular sequence to get it to start, so I described it in detail just in case. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjZUD0ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMom/ACeOaYV4iVNjoj1xMvYEGXsd2AK AEIAoJHzZ02KACFV6r/e+AYrO3A05Kq1 =FSqm -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: neo1973 does not power on.
Michael + Andy, I haven't had it plugged in since I had the problem a couple days ago. so I am pretty certain the back up battery is empty. I tried just powering it up now that I've waited and nothing. I also tried the boot to NOR uboot procedure and nothing happened. It looks like the battery is a little low now so I'm going to see if it will work after I let it charge up. Just to be clear this is a GTA01Bv4. Quoting Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | After a recent reboot, the system never came back. Pushing the power | button | | causes nothing to happen. I don't even seem to get into uboot(no logo | screen). | | See if this helps: pull the battery, wait a few seconds, then hold down | AUX key and keep it down, reapply battery, hold power button in too, let | go of AUX then let go of power button. | | | Andy, | | For the curious, and for further enlightenment, can you explain what | that does? It just starts him up in NOR U-Boot instead of NAND. The guy didn't mention NOR, it can be he trashed the NAND U-Boot during meddling with Debian and he will be able to recover via NOR if that's the case. I found on some devices with various vintages of NOR U-Boot and / or trouble you need to do that particular sequence to get it to start, so I described it in detail just in case. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjZUD0ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMom/ACeOaYV4iVNjoj1xMvYEGXsd2AK AEIAoJHzZ02KACFV6r/e+AYrO3A05Kq1 =FSqm -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
