[pfSense Support] Problems with dual wan and policy based routing

2005-11-18 Thread Daniel Solsona
Hi all, I've posted that on forums but I'll try here too with new info.

We've 1 soekris 4501 + lan1621 (Two ethernet ports)

We've 2 ADSL lines (static ip's both) one working with dhcp and the
other with static. And we want to have
1 Lan (192.168.50.0/24)
1 Wan (DHCP adsl line) (aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd)
1 OPT1 (The other adsl line, static) (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx)
1 DMZ (OPT2) (192.168.2.0/24)

We just want all lan traffic across the wan dsl, and the DMZ traffic
across the OPT1 dsl. 

I'll will explain what I've done and let's see if someone can find what
I'm missing.

First I go to Services -  Load Balancer and add a new pool. That will
be the pool for the OPT1 dsl line. (Type gateway, ip of OPT1 interface
adsl. Here I tried with the dsl gateway and it does the same.) 
I'll call the pool GW_JAZZ

Then I go to Firewall - NAT - Outbound and enable advanced outbound
nat. 
Here I do :
Interface:Wan Source:192.168.50.0/24 
Interface:Wan Source: 192.168.2.0/24
Interface: OPT1 Source:192.168.2.0/24

Then on Firewall - Nat - Incoming
I've the next services (smtp,pop,http,imap) going to 192.168.2.2 (My
server on DMZ) and the autofirewall rules created.
I've some services for the Wan (smtp,rdp,ftp) going to my internal lan
server (sucky exchange, 192.168.50.1) Some day it till stay at dmz or in
trash :-)


Then, Firewall - Rules
On the DMZ (OPT2) I've the next rule.
Proto: any source:any destination:any and gateway:GW_JAZZ
On the OPT1 I've the traffic for the nated services and nothing more.

On the LAN the default rule for traffic going throught default gateway
(wan)

On the wan the rules for the nated traffic.


And now, What works and what doesn't?¿

Well Internet traffic from LAn to Wan works perfect. Nated services from
WAN to LAN work too.

But OPT1  OPT2 isn't working.

Can someone see what I'm missing?¿ Or how can I bring more info for the
problem.

And to update that. I've tried to first make all Lan and DMZ go across
WLAN and it works well.Then I tried to make all the DMZ traffic to port
25 go on the OPT1 dsl line but no luck. The connection goes across the
OPT1 but it seems it can return back. 

DMZ --- Internet SMTP Server (Here i can see an incoming conection from
the OPT1 IP) 

Any idea?¿
Thx


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RE: [pfSense Support] vlans and altq

2005-11-18 Thread alan walters
Will await the next release and test again.

Thanks for your comments

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From: Dan Swartzendruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:51 PM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] vlans and altq

At 06:04 PM 11/17/2005, you wrote:
Tried on 0.90 through to non released 0.93.2
With the same troubles.

I have vlans on both of the pfsense wan and lan interfaces.
Might try again tomorrow. To see if I can isolate it a bit

Hmm, I remember an issue where the vlans didn't have a bandwidth, so 
the shaper got ticked off.  Have you manually set one?  Even if not, 
there's a change I sent in where it would default to 10mb if nothing 
was detected.  Scott also committed a change where vlan was accepted 
as a valid shaper interface.

On Thu, 17 Nov 2005, alan walters wrote:

  I was under the impression that altq has support for vlans. Is this
  enabled in pfsense at the moment.
 
  Have tried a couple of time but get unsupported interfaces. I know
that
  my fxp and sis cards support it
 
 
 
  So I guess it must be the vlans that are the issue

what release are you running?  i'm using this with fxp and it works
fine.
i remember it was dodgy for a bit, but bill and scott made some
changes...





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Re: [pfSense Support] aliases and firewall rules

2005-11-18 Thread Scott Ullrich
This is now fixed.

Scott


On 11/18/05, alan walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 I have noticed that the firewall rules are not updated when aliases are
 changed.

 Is this design



 When an alais is edited the new rule does not seem to take effect. If you go
 into firewall rules and resave a rule then the edited alias will be updated
 in the rules

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Re: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?

2005-11-18 Thread Scott Ullrich
On bootup or after initial setup of the tunnel, pfSense will ping
across the tunnel to bring it up.

Scott

On 11/17/05, John Cianfarani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Does anyone have IPSec tunnels auto establish working?  I can only seem to
 get the tunnels to come up when traffic is passing over them.



 Also wondering if there is anything special that needs to be done to do
 traffic shapping through an IPSec tunnel?



 Thanks

 John

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RE: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?

2005-11-18 Thread John Cianfarani
Ah okay I was figuring it would always try to keep it up. Any thing I
can do from within the pfsense box itself to keep the tunnel up?

Is traffic shapping over Ipsec out of the question at the moment?

Thanks
John

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From: Scott Ullrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 11:57 AM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?

On bootup or after initial setup of the tunnel, pfSense will ping
across the tunnel to bring it up.

Scott

On 11/17/05, John Cianfarani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Does anyone have IPSec tunnels auto establish working?  I can only
seem to
 get the tunnels to come up when traffic is passing over them.



 Also wondering if there is anything special that needs to be done to
do
 traffic shapping through an IPSec tunnel?



 Thanks

 John

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Re: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?

2005-11-18 Thread Jesse Norell

  Ah okay I was figuring it would always try to keep it up. Any thing I
  can do from within the pfsense box itself to keep the tunnel up?
 
 As long as traffic is going through the tunnel, it should stay up.  In
 my case I have a IP phone and never notice an issue.

  Does pfsense have cron?  If so, could make a cronjob to ping once a
minute or something.


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Re: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?

2005-11-18 Thread Scott Ullrich
Yeah, we have cron.

Scott

On 11/18/05, Jesse Norell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Ah okay I was figuring it would always try to keep it up. Any thing I
   can do from within the pfsense box itself to keep the tunnel up?
 
  As long as traffic is going through the tunnel, it should stay up.  In
  my case I have a IP phone and never notice an issue.

   Does pfsense have cron?  If so, could make a cronjob to ping once a
 minute or something.


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RE: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?

2005-11-18 Thread John Cianfarani
I've tried pinging from the shell/console to a remote ipsec endpoint but
it doesn't cause the tunnel to come up. (a local machine will cause the
tunnel to come up though).  
I though I read in an earlier message or the faq that freebsd kludges
together ipsec tunnels so some routes aren't properly in place. Is this
still true? 

Or is it possible to run the same command/script that pfsense does to
bring up the tunnel?

Thanks
John

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Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 1:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?

Yeah, we have cron.

Scott

On 11/18/05, Jesse Norell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Ah okay I was figuring it would always try to keep it up. Any
thing I
   can do from within the pfsense box itself to keep the tunnel up?
 
  As long as traffic is going through the tunnel, it should stay up.
In
  my case I have a IP phone and never notice an issue.

   Does pfsense have cron?  If so, could make a cronjob to ping once a
 minute or something.


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Re: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?

2005-11-18 Thread Scott Ullrich
Great!!!

On 11/18/05, John Cianfarani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Awesome! You da man!
 Fixes up my issue :)

 Thanks
 John

 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Ullrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 1:30 PM
 To: support@pfsense.com
 Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?

 You need to ping with -S (source address) of your lanip.

 ping -S 192.168.1.1 192.168.2.1

 On 11/18/05, John Cianfarani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've tried pinging from the shell/console to a remote ipsec endpoint
 but
  it doesn't cause the tunnel to come up. (a local machine will cause
 the
  tunnel to come up though).
  I though I read in an earlier message or the faq that freebsd kludges
  together ipsec tunnels so some routes aren't properly in place. Is
 this
  still true?
 
  Or is it possible to run the same command/script that pfsense does to
  bring up the tunnel?
 
  Thanks
  John
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Scott Ullrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 1:08 PM
  To: support@pfsense.com
  Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?
 
  Yeah, we have cron.
 
  Scott
 
  On 11/18/05, Jesse Norell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Ah okay I was figuring it would always try to keep it up. Any
  thing I
 can do from within the pfsense box itself to keep the tunnel up?
   
As long as traffic is going through the tunnel, it should stay up.
  In
my case I have a IP phone and never notice an issue.
  
 Does pfsense have cron?  If so, could make a cronjob to ping once
 a
   minute or something.
  
  
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Re: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?

2005-11-18 Thread Scott Ullrich
No, we do not want to invoke a php binary every minute.

On 11/18/05, Holger Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 maybe we should make this a checkbox for a tunnel (pinging once in a minute 
 to not let the tunnel go down)?

 Holger
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  Gesendet: Freitag, 18. November 2005 19:38
  An: support@pfsense.com
  Betreff: Re: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?
 
 
  Great!!!
 
  On 11/18/05, John Cianfarani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Awesome! You da man!
   Fixes up my issue :)
  
   Thanks
   John
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Scott Ullrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 1:30 PM
   To: support@pfsense.com
   Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?
  
   You need to ping with -S (source address) of your lanip.
  
   ping -S 192.168.1.1 192.168.2.1
  
   On 11/18/05, John Cianfarani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've tried pinging from the shell/console to a remote
  ipsec endpoint
   but
it doesn't cause the tunnel to come up. (a local machine
  will cause
   the
tunnel to come up though).
I though I read in an earlier message or the faq that
  freebsd kludges
together ipsec tunnels so some routes aren't properly in place. Is
   this
still true?
   
Or is it possible to run the same command/script that
  pfsense does to
bring up the tunnel?
   
Thanks
John
   
-Original Message-
From: Scott Ullrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 1:08 PM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?
   
Yeah, we have cron.
   
Scott
   
On 11/18/05, Jesse Norell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Ah okay I was figuring it would always try to keep
  it up. Any
thing I
   can do from within the pfsense box itself to keep
  the tunnel up?
 
  As long as traffic is going through the tunnel, it
  should stay up.
In
  my case I have a IP phone and never notice an issue.

   Does pfsense have cron?  If so, could make a cronjob
  to ping once
   a
 minute or something.


 --
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 Kentec Communications, Inc.



  
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Re: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?

2005-11-18 Thread Vivek Khera
what's the point of keeping the tunnel up?  won't either endpoint  
force it to re-establish on demand anyhow?


i know my mobile user IPsec vpn does so from my mac to pfSense.  i'm  
fairly certain our remote office VPN also does so, but it is a  
LNG haul over an unreliable network, so it is up and down all the  
time anyway.



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AW: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?

2005-11-18 Thread Holger Bauer
Just a real-life example: 

I have an IPSEC-Mesh between several locations. Each location has it's own VoIP 
PBX. The PBXs don't talk to each other unless there is a call. If the tunnel is 
down and you try to call a phone at the distant PBX you get a busy before the 
tunnel is up (tunnel needs longer to establish than the timeout of the VOIP). 
The second call then is working as the tunnel was brought up because of the 
first try which failed. There is other traffic from sublocations to main 
location only (keeping tunnels from sublocations to mainlocation up, no mesh 
traffic) but VOIP is going directly from one location to the other through a 
different tunnel between the two locations (which goes down if there are not 
calls from time to time).

Solutions: 
- adding cronjobs manually (but they don't get backed up with config.xml, so 
exchanging/restoring the router needs recalling this settings)
- using a server in sublocations subnets doing the ping

Holger

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 Von: Scott Ullrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Gesendet: Freitag, 18. November 2005 21:22
 An: support@pfsense.com
 Betreff: Re: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?
 
 
 Exactly.  I really don't see any reason to constantly babysit the
 tunnels.   If its mission critical to keep the tunnels up, there is
 cron.   There are situations where something can be over-engineered
 and this smells exactly of it.
 
 Scott
 
 On 11/18/05, Vivek Khera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  what's the point of keeping the tunnel up?  won't either endpoint
  force it to re-establish on demand anyhow?
 
  i know my mobile user IPsec vpn does so from my mac to pfSense.  i'm
  fairly certain our remote office VPN also does so, but it is a
  LNG haul over an unreliable network, so it is up and 
 down all the
  time anyway.
 
 
  
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RE: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?

2005-11-18 Thread John Cianfarani
Here is my somewhat potential setup for why I needed to keep the tunnel
up.

Lets say you have voip phones at a small remote site (1-2 users) which
has a dynamic ip address. (Which uses the mobile ipsec client setup)
Lets also assume the phones don't register with the call server (static
configuration or they register every 30min/60min).

Call server is at the host site.  Call comes in for one of the remote
phones but because the tunnel is down and the ip is dynamic it can't
bring up ipsec session, hence unable to ring the phone.

Now you might say if a user isn't there who cares.  But the phone might
be set to do call forwarding or the user doesn't have their machine on.


On this note it could be resolved if it was possible to put in a
dynamicdns name instead of ip so the host site would always be able to
find the remote site?

Thanks
John

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From: Vivek Khera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 3:19 PM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?

what's the point of keeping the tunnel up?  won't either endpoint  
force it to re-establish on demand anyhow?

i know my mobile user IPsec vpn does so from my mac to pfSense.  i'm  
fairly certain our remote office VPN also does so, but it is a  
LNG haul over an unreliable network, so it is up and down all the  
time anyway.


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RE: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?

2005-11-18 Thread John Cianfarani
LOL same example.
In my potential setup there will be no server at the remote location.
That's why I was looking for a way for pfsense to keep it up.

John

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From: Holger Bauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 3:39 PM
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: AW: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?

Just a real-life example: 

I have an IPSEC-Mesh between several locations. Each location has it's own VoIP 
PBX. The PBXs don't talk to each other unless there is a call. If the tunnel is 
down and you try to call a phone at the distant PBX you get a busy before the 
tunnel is up (tunnel needs longer to establish than the timeout of the VOIP). 
The second call then is working as the tunnel was brought up because of the 
first try which failed. There is other traffic from sublocations to main 
location only (keeping tunnels from sublocations to mainlocation up, no mesh 
traffic) but VOIP is going directly from one location to the other through a 
different tunnel between the two locations (which goes down if there are not 
calls from time to time).

Solutions: 
- adding cronjobs manually (but they don't get backed up with config.xml, so 
exchanging/restoring the router needs recalling this settings)
- using a server in sublocations subnets doing the ping

Holger

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 Von: Scott Ullrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Gesendet: Freitag, 18. November 2005 21:22
 An: support@pfsense.com
 Betreff: Re: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?
 
 
 Exactly.  I really don't see any reason to constantly babysit the
 tunnels.   If its mission critical to keep the tunnels up, there is
 cron.   There are situations where something can be over-engineered
 and this smells exactly of it.
 
 Scott
 
 On 11/18/05, Vivek Khera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  what's the point of keeping the tunnel up?  won't either endpoint
  force it to re-establish on demand anyhow?
 
  i know my mobile user IPsec vpn does so from my mac to pfSense.  i'm
  fairly certain our remote office VPN also does so, but it is a
  LNG haul over an unreliable network, so it is up and 
 down all the
  time anyway.
 
 
  
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AW: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?

2005-11-18 Thread Holger Bauer
Heh, looks like this option should be called make voip happy [X] 

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 Betreff: RE: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?
 
 
 Here is my somewhat potential setup for why I needed to keep 
 the tunnel
 up.
 
 Lets say you have voip phones at a small remote site (1-2 users) which
 has a dynamic ip address. (Which uses the mobile ipsec client setup)
 Lets also assume the phones don't register with the call 
 server (static
 configuration or they register every 30min/60min).
 
 Call server is at the host site.  Call comes in for one of the remote
 phones but because the tunnel is down and the ip is dynamic it can't
 bring up ipsec session, hence unable to ring the phone.
 
 Now you might say if a user isn't there who cares.  But the 
 phone might
 be set to do call forwarding or the user doesn't have their 
 machine on.
 
 
 On this note it could be resolved if it was possible to put in a
 dynamicdns name instead of ip so the host site would always be able to
 find the remote site?
 
 Thanks
 John
 
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 From: Vivek Khera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 3:19 PM
 To: support@pfsense.com
 Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] IPsec Does Auto Establish work?
 
 what's the point of keeping the tunnel up?  won't either endpoint  
 force it to re-establish on demand anyhow?
 
 i know my mobile user IPsec vpn does so from my mac to pfSense.  i'm  
 fairly certain our remote office VPN also does so, but it is a  
 LNG haul over an unreliable network, so it is up and down 
 all the  
 time anyway.
 
 
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Re: [pfSense Support] Solution: Re: [pfSense Support] VPN NAT Traversal (CISCO VPN Client)

2005-11-18 Thread Chris
I banged my head on this for a while before I realized our network admin 
probably had the Cisco PIX VPN config to only work with UDP, not TCP.  
Our default config is to use UDP, but that didn't work for me on pfsense 
v.86.  After I read the e-mail below I stopped trying to connect over 
UDP. (Stupid me.  I'm a sysadmin, not a netadmin.)  While I was typing 
up the please help me e-mail I realized that TCP was not configured at 
the endpoint in the office, and for giggles I tried UDP.  I was amazed 
at how fast it connected.  It worked with IPSec Passthrough disabled and 
enabled.


This was killing me because pfsense was noticeably faster than my old 
LinkSys, but VPN had to work so I could connect to my office.



Thanks for a fast and easy firewall!

Chris


stephan schneider wrote:


 i am trying to get a (NATed) connection to an external VPN using
  the cisco vpn client. Unfortunately it just doesn't work -
  no connection. I added the port 500 (isakmp) and allowed ESP to pass
  the firewall. But I think there's more to do to get NAT-Traversal
  to work  :-(

Got the solution.

In the vpn client connection configuration you have to choose
IPSec over TCP and of course Enable Transparent Tunnel.


No custom rules, no IPSec passthru (that's a different approach),
no custom nat rules (only the default: nat all lan) are needed.


Thanks Bill!
Have a nice day.
Stefan.

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Re: [pfSense Support] Solution: Re: [pfSense Support] VPN NAT Traversal (CISCO VPN Client)

2005-11-18 Thread Chris
It did not work with IPSec Passthrough disabled.  I must have tested too 
quickly after disabling it.  I tried again an hour later and I could not 
connect to the office.  I enabled passthrough and I was fine.


Sorry for any confusion.


Chris wrote:

I banged my head on this for a while before I realized our network 
admin probably had the Cisco PIX VPN config to only work with UDP, not 
TCP.  Our default config is to use UDP, but that didn't work for me on 
pfsense v.86.  After I read the e-mail below I stopped trying to 
connect over UDP. (Stupid me.  I'm a sysadmin, not a netadmin.)  While 
I was typing up the please help me e-mail I realized that TCP was 
not configured at the endpoint in the office, and for giggles I tried 
UDP.  I was amazed at how fast it connected.  It worked with IPSec 
Passthrough disabled and enabled.


This was killing me because pfsense was noticeably faster than my old 
LinkSys, but VPN had to work so I could connect to my office.



Thanks for a fast and easy firewall!

Chris


stephan schneider wrote:


 i am trying to get a (NATed) connection to an external VPN using
  the cisco vpn client. Unfortunately it just doesn't work -
  no connection. I added the port 500 (isakmp) and allowed ESP to pass
  the firewall. But I think there's more to do to get NAT-Traversal
  to work  :-(

Got the solution.

In the vpn client connection configuration you have to choose
IPSec over TCP and of course Enable Transparent Tunnel.


No custom rules, no IPSec passthru (that's a different approach),
no custom nat rules (only the default: nat all lan) are needed.


Thanks Bill!
Have a nice day.
Stefan.

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