[pfSense Support] BGP status

2009-07-30 Thread Chris Flugstad
Any word on BGP status.  or a simple alternative, until pfsense has BGP 
function?


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Re: [pfSense Support] BGP status

2009-07-30 Thread Scott Ullrich
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Chris Flugstadch...@cascadelink.com wrote:
 Any word on BGP status.  or a simple alternative, until pfsense has BGP
 function?

BGP has existed in system - packages for 2+ years.

Scott

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Re: [pfSense Support] BGP status

2009-07-30 Thread Chris Flugstad
how did i miss all these packages that were available to install via the 
gui.


now i got a lot of fun stuff to play with over the weekend.
thanks, and sorry for being such a nuckle head ;)
-topher


Scott Ullrich wrote:

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Chris Flugstadch...@cascadelink.com wrote:
  

Any word on BGP status.  or a simple alternative, until pfsense has BGP
function?



BGP has existed in system - packages for 2+ years.

Scott

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Re: [pfSense Support] BGP status

2009-07-30 Thread Sean Cavanaugh



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how did i miss all these packages that were available to install via the 
gui.


that's actually kinda funny considering that's the one main benefit that 
pfSense has over other software firewalls 



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Re: [pfSense Support] BGP status

2008-02-11 Thread Adam Armstrong

Royce Mitchell III wrote:

Adam Armstrong wrote:
Carp is unnecessary when using BGP, as the provider sees routes into 
your network via the individual devices and both devices see routes out.


You wouldn't want to run BGP from a CARP IP anyawys, as it would 
result in BGP flapping when the CARP switched.


adam.
Okay, please forgive my ignorance, but if you have two redundant 
routers servicing your BGP, how will they decide who is going to 
handle a packet without some sort of CARP/VRRP communication between 
them?
There are a number of mechanisms for doing this, generally you'll set 
the localpref high for prefixes coming from the peer you want to use, 
and set the MED low for prefixes being announced to that peer, that way 
your peer will send traffic to you on the correct link (lowest MED wins) 
and you'll send traffic out on the correct link (highest localpref wins).


However, if you're doing BGP solely to get redundant connectivity to the 
same ISP you should look again at CARP and ask what your ISP can do by 
way of HSRP/VRRP to present a single IP to you from two of their 
devices. VRRP/CARP/HSRP is generally a far better solution for that due 
to the slowlness of BGP convergence.


adam.

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Re: [pfSense Support] BGP status

2008-02-11 Thread Royce Mitchell III
Adam Armstrong wrote: 
Carp is unnecessary when using BGP, as the provider sees routes into 
your network via the individual devices and both devices see routes out.


You wouldn't want to run BGP from a CARP IP anyawys, as it would 
result in BGP flapping when the CARP switched.


adam.
Okay, please forgive my ignorance, but if you have two redundant routers 
servicing your BGP, how will they decide who is going to handle a packet 
without some sort of CARP/VRRP communication between them?


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Re: [pfSense Support] BGP status

2008-02-11 Thread Adam Armstrong

Paul M wrote:

Royce Mitchell III wrote:
  

Is the BGP package for pfsense available, yet?

Also, does it play nice with CARP, or is CARP even necessary when you
have BGP?



I think CARP is a very different thing - BGP is a way of having multiple
circuits to different ISPs to get resilience internet connectivity. CARP
is a way of having two devices share an IP.

Or am I missing some clever use of BGP and CARP?
  
Carp is unnecessary when using BGP, as the provider sees routes into 
your network via the individual devices and both devices see routes out.


You wouldn't want to run BGP from a CARP IP anyawys, as it would result 
in BGP flapping when the CARP switched.


adam.

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Re: [pfSense Support] BGP status

2008-02-11 Thread Paul M
Royce Mitchell III wrote:
 Is the BGP package for pfsense available, yet?
 
 Also, does it play nice with CARP, or is CARP even necessary when you
 have BGP?

I think CARP is a very different thing - BGP is a way of having multiple
circuits to different ISPs to get resilience internet connectivity. CARP
is a way of having two devices share an IP.

Or am I missing some clever use of BGP and CARP?


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Re: [pfSense Support] BGP status

2008-02-11 Thread Royce Mitchell III

Adam Armstrong wrote:

Royce Mitchell III wrote:
Okay, please forgive my ignorance, but if you have two redundant 
routers servicing your BGP, how will they decide who is going to 
handle a packet without some sort of CARP/VRRP communication between 
them?
There are a number of mechanisms for doing this, generally you'll set 
the localpref high for prefixes coming from the peer you want to use, 
and set the MED low for prefixes being announced to that peer, that 
way your peer will send traffic to you on the correct link (lowest MED 
wins) and you'll send traffic out on the correct link (highest 
localpref wins).


However, if you're doing BGP solely to get redundant connectivity to 
the same ISP you should look again at CARP and ask what your ISP can 
do by way of HSRP/VRRP to present a single IP to you from two of their 
devices. VRRP/CARP/HSRP is generally a far better solution for that 
due to the slowlness of BGP convergence.


adam.
This client has two ISP's, and wants to setup BGP so he can reroute a 
/24, but he wants redundant routers to service the BGP so that if one 
goes down he still has both ISPs. So, both routers will respond to both 
legs of the of the BGP route.


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Re: [pfSense Support] BGP status

2008-02-11 Thread Scott Ullrich
On Feb 11, 2008 8:12 AM, Royce Mitchell III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, please forgive my ignorance, but if you have two redundant routers
 servicing your BGP, how will they decide who is going to handle a packet
 without some sort of CARP/VRRP communication between them?

OpenBSD does play well with CARP + BGP but since we do not have
CARPDEV yet, we will not have these features.

Stuff like[1]:

 -c  Force bgpd to do carp(4) demotion at startup when the demote
 functionality is used.  Normally, bgpd will only do demotion
 at startup when the demotion counter for the group in ques-
 tion is already greater than 0.  bgpd will start handling de-
 motion after all sessions with demotion configured for the
 given group have been successfully established.  At system
 startup, rc(8) has the demotion counter for the group carp
 increased until after bgpd is started, so this option should
 not be used in rc.conf(8).

Will hopefully be available some time in the future.  A patch is being
tested on 7.X right now.

Scott
[1] 
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=bgpdapropos=0sektion=0manpath=OpenBSD+Currentarch=i386format=html

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[pfSense Support] BGP status

2008-02-09 Thread Royce Mitchell III

Is the BGP package for pfsense available, yet?

Also, does it play nice with CARP, or is CARP even necessary when you 
have BGP?


Thanks!

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