RE: [pfSense Support] ACPI/APIC in loader.conf - watchdog timeouts

2009-03-23 Thread Dimitri Rodis
So, the hint.apic.0.disabled=1 seems to have _significantly_ reduced the
watchdog timeouts, but they are not completely gone, and the ones that are
happening now seem to happen somewhat randomly. Browsing through the GUI
does not seem to cause issues any more. I will continue with the SMP kernel
testing tomorrow.

Dimitri Rodis
Integrita Systems LLC 
http://www.integritasystems.com


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Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] ACPI/APIC in loader.conf - watchdog timeouts

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Dimitri Rodis
 wrote:
> Do you think this has any potential relevance to the firebox watchdog
> timeouts? Obviously I am going to test it and simply observe the results--
> not too hard to reproduce the issue.
>

It could.


> Also, there was a suggestion that using an SMP kernel would alleviate the
> issue also. Given that this is a single core P3, I don't know what
> difference it will make (obviously the kernel locking mechanisms are
> different), but is there a way to easily swap the kernel on embedded with
an
> SMP version (if it isn't already--I don't know what the default is for an
> embedded image since there isn't an "installer")?

Mount it rw (run /etc/rc.conf_mount_rw) and copy over the kernel from
a full install. Then switch back to ro with /etc/rc.conf_mount_ro and
reboot.

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Re: [pfSense Support] ACPI/APIC in loader.conf - watchdog timeouts

2009-03-23 Thread Chris Buechler
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Dimitri Rodis
 wrote:
> Do you think this has any potential relevance to the firebox watchdog
> timeouts? Obviously I am going to test it and simply observe the results--
> not too hard to reproduce the issue.
>

It could.


> Also, there was a suggestion that using an SMP kernel would alleviate the
> issue also. Given that this is a single core P3, I don't know what
> difference it will make (obviously the kernel locking mechanisms are
> different), but is there a way to easily swap the kernel on embedded with an
> SMP version (if it isn't already--I don't know what the default is for an
> embedded image since there isn't an "installer")?

Mount it rw (run /etc/rc.conf_mount_rw) and copy over the kernel from
a full install. Then switch back to ro with /etc/rc.conf_mount_ro and
reboot.

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RE: [pfSense Support] ACPI/APIC in loader.conf - watchdog timeouts

2009-03-22 Thread Dimitri Rodis
Do you think this has any potential relevance to the firebox watchdog
timeouts? Obviously I am going to test it and simply observe the results--
not too hard to reproduce the issue.

Also, there was a suggestion that using an SMP kernel would alleviate the
issue also. Given that this is a single core P3, I don't know what
difference it will make (obviously the kernel locking mechanisms are
different), but is there a way to easily swap the kernel on embedded with an
SMP version (if it isn't already--I don't know what the default is for an
embedded image since there isn't an "installer")? Doing a full install on
these fireboxes is pretty tough and requires some soldering (I believe) to
get a keyboard header working, not to mention that you have to get the board
completely out of the chassis to fit a video card on it.

Thanks Chris..

Dimitri Rodis
Integrita Systems LLC 

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Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 9:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] ACPI/APIC in loader.conf - watchdog timeouts

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Dimitri Rodis
 wrote:
>
> hint.apic.0.disabled=1? I thought it was hint.acpi.0.disabled=1 (see
> http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Booting_Options, and also the forum posts
> regarding firebox installs)
>

APIC and ACPI are entirely different things. APIC is another one that
can cause problems on some systems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Programmable_Interrupt_Controller
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Configuration_and_Power_Interface

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Re: [pfSense Support] ACPI/APIC in loader.conf - watchdog timeouts

2009-03-22 Thread Chris Buechler
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Dimitri Rodis
 wrote:
>
> hint.apic.0.disabled=1? I thought it was hint.acpi.0.disabled=1 (see
> http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Booting_Options, and also the forum posts
> regarding firebox installs)
>

APIC and ACPI are entirely different things. APIC is another one that
can cause problems on some systems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Programmable_Interrupt_Controller
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Configuration_and_Power_Interface

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