Re: setting account for other gmail service
--On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 02:51:40 AM +0200 otrov dejan@gmail.com wrote: hi, I use thebat.net mail service (which is service on gmail) and can't get chat working with pidgin, thou it works fine in browser i.e. I think the problem is that User needs to be some_n...@thebat.net and Domain gmail, but Pidgin doesn't parse this very well and I might be wrong of course Thanks in advance For my gmail use: Protocol: xmpp Username: your-username Domain: gmail.com In your case you might have to replace gmail.com with thebat.net or both might work, but you don't want the domain as part of the username. Bill -- Bill MacAllister Infrastructure Delivery Group, Stanford University ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Why all of the upgrades
--On Wednesday, June 02, 2010 01:31:17 PM -0700 Joelle Crepsac jcrep...@stanford.edu wrote: All, Thanks, for your comments; I think. I've suggested that 150 people (that do not have administrative privileges) use this application; an application that has had something close to 8 version changes in a few months. I don't consider that SO MANY revisions active development... I thought that I could actually get useful answer here; something that I could share with the 150 people I suggested this program to; something they could understand and relate to, and assist in creating some kind of trust and security in changing from their former instant messaging program. Unfortunately, the comments I've received so far aren't the type that should probably be shared. It is clear that I misunderstood your original question, i.e. Why is this program constantly being upgraded? I had taken your question to be an implied criticism of the quality of pidgin that it would require that many fixes. I am a happy user of pidgin and very grateful to the developers who haven spent considerable effort working on pidgin and allowing me to use it for free. I felt that the least I could do was to defend that effort. It seems to me that you are really asking two questions, at least there are two issues that I would like to respond to. The first is open source software in general and the second is system management. Neither issue is specific to pidgin. Open source software is not just free software. While there are no formal standards for open source development, there are some widely accepted concepts that are generally part of open source projects. I think that Eric Raymond's introduction to The Cathedral and the Bazaar succinctly describes the issue that is bothering you about open source software. Linux overturned much of what I thought I knew. I had been preaching the Unix gospel of small tools, rapid prototyping and evolutionary programming for years. But I also believed there was a certain critical complexity above which a more centralized, a priori approach was required. I believed that the most important software (operating systems and really large tools like the Emacs programming editor) needed to be built like cathedrals, carefully crafted by individual wizards or small bands of mages working in splendid isolation, with no beta to be released before its time. Linus Torvalds's style of development—release early and often, delegate everything you can, be open to the point of promiscuity—came as a surprise. No quiet, reverent cathedral-building here—rather, the Linux community seemed to resemble a great babbling bazaar of differing agendas and approaches (aptly symbolized by the Linux archive sites, who'd take submissions from anyone) out of which a coherent and stable system could seemingly emerge only by a succession of miracles. Particularly relevant is release early and often. Certainly your request for less often releases is at war with this general attitude. There are many reasons that this makes sense and Eric Raymond discusses several. I would point out that cathedral upgrades can be very painful just because so much tends to change when there is a long time between releases. Releasing often tends to mean that changes are smaller and easier to install. To be sure if this style of development is plugged directly into your system management infrastructure there can be a lot of heartburn. You are not required to install the latest version of pidgin. It makes sense to read the changelog to see what has changed and whether it is important to you before you apply it to systems that you manage. Of course, the ability be this selective implies that you maintain a repository of software you install and have a method of deploying that software to the systems that you manage. For me the benefits of open source software out weigh the potential problems and those problems can be mitigated by good system management. But, of course, that is my opinion. Bill -- Bill MacAllister, System Software Programmer Infrastructure Delivery Group, Stanford University I withdraw my inquiry; please refrain from further attacks. Thanks anyway. Joelle From: Joelle Crepsac [mailto:jcrep...@stanford.edu] Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:47 PM To: Subject: Why all of the upgrades Why is this program constantly being upgraded? I truly regret sharing it because it's CONSTANTLY revision versions. Does anyone have any ideas when it will remain stable for 6 months or more? It's truly a hassle, and I'm considering using something more stable. Any ideas? Thanks, JC ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Why all of the upgrades
--On Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:46:49 PM -0700 Joelle Crepsac jcrep...@stanford.edu wrote: Why is this program constantly being upgraded? If you really wanted an answer to this seems like you should take a look at the changelog. There is a link off of the pidgin home page to the latest changelog. I truly regret sharing it because it's CONSTANTLY revision versions. What the heck does this mean? You are reticent to recommend it because it is under active development? One of the ways that I evaluate software is whether it is being actively maintained. Software that is not being updated is likely to contain unpatched security problems. This is especially true of software that implements an internet protocol, and pidgin implements several of them. Does anyone have any ideas when it will remain stable for 6 months or more? Debian has a longer release cycle. Maybe you should consider dropping Windows. It's truly a hassle, and I'm considering using something more stable. Any ideas? Hard for me to believe that even on Windows this is difficult. Bill -- Bill MacAllister, System Software Programmer Infrastructure Delivery Group, Stanford University ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Pidign: 2.7.0 SIPE Plug-in 1.10
David, If you had read all the way to the end of the message you received you would have found: ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support In general, you do not unsubscribe to a list by sending a message to the list. That just tends to irritate everyone on the list. It certainly irritated me, and I have had to work hard at suppressing several snide comments about Oracle. Bill --On Thursday, May 13, 2010 03:30:41 PM + david.griff...@oracle.com wrote: Please take off all Support distributions . Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Pento Robert-QA4508 rob.pe...@motorola.com Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 10:29:32 To: Daniel Atallahdatal...@pidgin.im Cc: support@pidgin.imsupport@pidgin.im Subject: RE: Pidign: 2.7.0 SIPE Plug-in 1.10 My sets were as follows: 1) Install Pidgin 2.7.0 2) Uninstall SIPE 3) Reinstall SIPE 1.10 4) reboot PC I don't see Office Communicator as a valid Account type. Rob Pento HNM - LTE eNodeB System Design Desk: 847-632-3395 Cell: 847-757-3124 The bitterness of poor quality lingers long after the sweetness of meeting a schedule is forgotten. - Director of Submarine Safety QA, Naval Sea Sys Command -Original Message- From: daniel.atal...@gmail.com [mailto:daniel.atal...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Atallah Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:25 AM To: Pento Robert-QA4508 Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: Pidign: 2.7.0 SIPE Plug-in 1.10 On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:18, Pento Robert-QA4508 rob.pe...@motorola.com wrote: I realize the SIPE Plug-in is not sanctioned, but it seems not to be working for me. - I don't see the Account Type of Office Communicator - Does anyone else see this issue with the new Pidgin and the new SIPE (1.10) You probably need to reinstall SIPE after upgrading Pidgin. -D ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support -- Bill MacAllister, System Software Programmer Infrastructure Delivery Group, Stanford University ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: AIM no longer working
--On Wednesday, March 03, 2010 01:00:29 AM -0800 cappsie a...@cappsie.com wrote: Hi Bill That did indeed work for AIM, however, ICE displays the same connection error as AIM yet lacks the option to disable the client method. Any thoughts? No. I am not familiar with ICE. Bill Thanks Adam Bill MacAllister-5 wrote: Disable Use clientlogin. Accounts-Manage Accounts-select AIM account-Advanced, the uncheck the box. Bill --On Friday, February 19, 2010 08:35:52 PM -0500 Paul plede...@optonline.net wrote: I have that too so I am now using Trillian till Pidgin works. I use Windows and i do connect to Yahoo yet i can't view yahoo buddy lists. On 2/19/2010 8:32 PM, Keith Winter wrote: Lately, Pidgin is unable to log into AIM. Is this a known issue? I get the following error from the debug window: (17:28:23) *oscar:* startOSCARSession response statusCode was 400: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? response xmlns=http://developer.aim.com/xsd/aim.xsd;statusCode400/statusCodestatusTextuseTLS=1 is not allowed for non secure requests./statusTextdatats1266629302/tsupgradeData/upgradeDatabetaData/betaData/data/response (17:28:23) *connection:* Connection error on 019D0118 (reason: 16 description: Received unexpected response from http://api.oscar.aol.com/aim/startOSCARSession: useTLS=1 is not allowed for non secure requests.) (17:28:24) *account:* Disconnecting account (00C95FF8) (17:28:24) *connection:* Disconnecting connection 019D0118 (17:28:24) *oscar:* Signed off. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support -- Bill MacAllister, System Software Programmer Unix Systems Group, Stanford University ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support -- Bill MacAllister, System Software Programmer Infrastructure Delivery Group, Stanford University ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: AIM no longer working
Disable Use clientlogin. Accounts-Manage Accounts-select AIM account-Advanced, the uncheck the box. Bill --On Friday, February 19, 2010 08:35:52 PM -0500 Paul plede...@optonline.net wrote: I have that too so I am now using Trillian till Pidgin works. I use Windows and i do connect to Yahoo yet i can't view yahoo buddy lists. On 2/19/2010 8:32 PM, Keith Winter wrote: Lately, Pidgin is unable to log into AIM. Is this a known issue? I get the following error from the debug window: (17:28:23) *oscar:* startOSCARSession response statusCode was 400: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? response xmlns=http://developer.aim.com/xsd/aim.xsd;statusCode400/statusCodestatusTextuseTLS=1 is not allowed for non secure requests./statusTextdatats1266629302/tsupgradeData/upgradeDatabetaData/betaData/data/response (17:28:23) *connection:* Connection error on 019D0118 (reason: 16 description: Received unexpected response from http://api.oscar.aol.com/aim/startOSCARSession: useTLS=1 is not allowed for non secure requests.) (17:28:24) *account:* Disconnecting account (00C95FF8) (17:28:24) *connection:* Disconnecting connection 019D0118 (17:28:24) *oscar:* Signed off. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support -- Bill MacAllister, System Software Programmer Unix Systems Group, Stanford University ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: How Does the List Handler work
--On Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:25:19 AM +0200 Michelle michel...@cargoasp.net wrote: Hello, Can any one help me. I would like to know how does the Pidgin List handler work? http://plugins.guifications.org/trac/wiki/listhandler -- Bill MacAllister, System Software Programmer Unix Systems Group, Stanford University ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: How to go to yahoo messenger
--On Tuesday, December 29, 2009 04:05:39 PM -0800 john aguilar john243f...@yahoo.com wrote: How do I connect to yahoo.mess. I have some off-lines I need to read and I can't down load yahoo mess but I did get pidgin to down load. So how do i go to Yahoo.mess from Pidgin You need to Add an Account. When you start up Pigin the first time it should offer an Add button. Click on it, select the Yahoo protocol, and enter your Yahoo account information. Bill -- Bill MacAllister, System Software Programmer Unix Systems Group, Stanford University ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: so slow...
--On Tuesday, December 29, 2009 02:51:05 PM -0600 Programmer In Training p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us wrote: On 12/29/2009 11:13 AM, Brian Morrison wrote: On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:47:17 -0600 Mestl, Robert R rrme...@west.com wrote: Why does it take so long for pidgin to start up? Takes like 15-20 secs ... Why do you think that 15-20 seconds is a long time? Seems like very little time to me for a complex application to load and initialise. Well, Pidgin loads even quicker then that for me and I have several plugins installed. Pidgin isn't that complex, though. OOo takes 15-30 seconds to load for me and that's way more complex then Pidgin will ever dream of being (I hope). What evidence do you have that it is Pidgin that is slow and not something in the network? OpenOffice is really not a good application to compare Pidgin with. With network applications there are lots of steps in making a network connection that can cause the application to stall and wait. How many network connections are you making? How solid is your DNS? Is your ISP clueless about routing? Etc. In the end though, if it is only slow on start up, then why do you care? For me pidgin starts up automatically as part of my login process, connects to 5 IM servers and is up for 10-12 hours. Spending an extra 10 seconds at start up is really not worth worrying about. Bill -- Bill MacAllister, System Software Programmer Unix Systems Group, Stanford University ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: I am a new user and have some questions
--On Monday, November 16, 2009 11:01:52 AM -0500 James Landfield jlandfi...@financemgt.com wrote: 1. The add Buddy is grayed out. How do I add a buddy Not sure what is going on there. Maybe you can't write to you home directory? Of course, it doesn't make sense to add buddies if you haven't created any accounts yet. 2. Will Pidgin blink when I have a new message, until I answer it. I expect what behavior you see this depends what platform you are on. On my Gnome Linux box the icon in the task bar changes and the text on the account tab in the chat window changes color. As I remember the Windows behavior is very similar. Bill -- Bill MacAllister, System Software Programmer Unix Systems Group, Stanford University ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Yahoo on Ubuntu
--On Thursday, November 05, 2009 05:32:10 PM -0600 K kkh1...@gmail.com wrote: I can't run Yahoo on Pidgin on Ubuntu. Any fix for it? ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support I am guessing you are running an older version of ubuntu and that you are having the yahoo authentication problem. Either up grade pidgin to a recent version or upgrade ubuntu which will do that for you. Bill -- Bill MacAllister, System Software Programmer Unix Systems Group, Stanford University ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re:
--On Thursday, September 10, 2009 08:07:28 PM -0400 James M. Keel james.m.k...@gmail.com wrote: Can you guys make an iPhone version? Sent from my iPhone The iPhone version requires the Pidgin Galactic Site License. At 5 billion dollars this license works out to less than a dollar per user given the current population of the planet. I am sure that as soon as you agree to purchase a Galactic Site License the developers will be happy to produce in any flavor you like. Not really, but I couldn't resist ripping off Matt Wall's old joke from a Mulberry price list. Bill -- Bill MacAllister, System Software Programmer Unix Systems Group, Stanford University ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Windows Pidgin and Comodo Certs
--On Monday, August 31, 2009 06:53:34 PM -0700 Paul Aurich darkrai...@pidgin.im wrote: And Bill MacAllister spoke on 08/31/2009 06:01 PM, saying: Using Pidgin 2.6.1 on Windows when a new user connects to our Openfire Jabber server Pidgin complains that it cannot find the root certificate for our Comodo certificate. This does not happen using Pidgin 2.5.5 on ubuntu or for other web applications that use other Comodo certs on the same Windows system. Is Pidgin on Windows being shipped with a certificate store that doesn't contain the Comodo root? Bill On Windows (and *nix distributions that do not build using --with-system-ssl-certs or do not offer a certificate directory), Pidgin uses a limited set of CA certificates shipped with the program, which does not currently include a Comodo root. Could you point out which specific root CA you use (key fingerprint ideally, some other uniquely identifying characteristic also works) so that we can add it to Pidgin? ~Paul Just to make sure I got this right here is the chain that I see. Certificate chain length: 3 Certificate[1]: Owner: CN=stanford.edu, OU=Comodo InstantSSL, OU=Issued through Stanford University E-PKI Manager, OU=ITSS, O=Stanford University, STREET=397 Panama Mall, L=Stanford, ST=California, OID.2.5.4.17=94305, C=US Issuer: CN=AAA Certificate Services, O=Comodo CA Limited, L=Salford, ST=Greater Manchester, C=GB Serial number: 4c14201f4e97281d738b29c49f54d629 Valid from: Wed Aug 19 17:00:00 PDT 2009 until: Sun Aug 19 16:59:59 PDT 2012 Certificate fingerprints: MD5: 79:FB:BA:AE:06:F3:7D:69:BF:F9:EC:A8:4B:CA:55:A7 SHA1: 6E:FA:B9:41:3F:89:12:FE:76:FA:95:EF:DA:C9:A3:6E:D9:35:2D:42 Signature algorithm name: SHA1withRSA Version: 3 Certificate[2]: Owner: CN=AAA Certificate Services, O=Comodo CA Limited, L=Salford, ST=Greater Manchester, C=GB Issuer: CN=Entrust.net Secure Server Certification Authority, OU=(c) 1999 Entrust.net Limited, OU=www.entrust.net/CPS incorp. by ref. (limits liab.), O=Entrust.net, C=US Serial number: 4286f23d Valid from: Thu Oct 19 07:39:51 PDT 2006 until: Fri Oct 19 08:09:51 PDT 2012 Certificate fingerprints: MD5: 2C:8C:4A:B4:7A:9D:9E:73:09:98:AB:08:E9:8D:D7:B4 SHA1: E3:9F:E0:6C:48:80:D3:8C:B0:C5:2A:A1:EF:B0:6E:EE:FF:F7:01:DD Signature algorithm name: SHA1withRSA Version: 3 Certificate: Data: Version: 3 (0x2) Serial Number: 927650371 (0x374ad243) Signature Algorithm: sha1WithRSAEncryption Issuer: C=US, O=Entrust.net, OU=www.entrust.net/CPS incorp. by ref. (limits liab.), OU=(c) 1999 Entrust.net Limited, CN=Entrust.net Secure Server Certification Authority Validity Not Before: May 25 16:09:40 1999 GMT Not After : May 25 16:39:40 2019 GMT Subject: C=US, O=Entrust.net, OU=www.entrust.net/CPS incorp. by ref. (limits liab.), OU=(c) 1999 Entrust.net Limited, CN=Entrust.net Secure Server Certification Authority Subject Public Key Info: Public Key Algorithm: rsaEncryption RSA Public Key: (1024 bit) Modulus (1024 bit): 00:cd:28:83:34:54:1b:89:f3:0f:af:37:91:31:ff: af:31:60:c9:a8:e8:b2:10:68:ed:9f:e7:93:36:f1: 0a:64:bb:47:f5:04:17:3f:23:47:4d:c5:27:19:81: 26:0c:54:72:0d:88:2d:d9:1f:9a:12:9f:bc:b3:71: d3:80:19:3f:47:66:7b:8c:35:28:d2:b9:0a:df:24: da:9c:d6:50:79:81:7a:5a:d3:37:f7:c2:4a:d8:29: 92:26:64:d1:e4:98:6c:3a:00:8a:f5:34:9b:65:f8: ed:e3:10:ff:fd:b8:49:58:dc:a0:de:82:39:6b:81: b1:16:19:61:b9:54:b6:e6:43 Exponent: 3 (0x3) X509v3 extensions: Netscape Cert Type: SSL CA, S/MIME CA, Object Signing CA X509v3 CRL Distribution Points: DirName:/C=US/O=Entrust.net/OU=www.entrust.net/CPS incorp. by ref. (limits liab.)/OU=(c) 1999 Entrust.net Limited/CN=Entrust.net Secure Server Certification Authority/CN=CRL1 URI:http://www.entrust.net/CRL/net1.crl X509v3 Private Key Usage Period: Not Before: May 25 16:09:40 1999 GMT, Not After: May 25 16:09:40 2019 GMT X509v3 Key Usage: Certificate Sign, CRL Sign X509v3 Authority Key Identifier: keyid:F0:17:62:13:55:3D:B3:FF:0A:00:6B:FB:50:84:97:F3:ED:62:D0:1A X509v3 Subject Key Identifier: F0:17:62:13:55:3D:B3:FF:0A:00:6B:FB:50:84:97:F3:ED:62:D0:1A X509v3 Basic Constraints: CA:TRUE 1.2.840.113533.7.65.0: 0 ..V4.0 Signature Algorithm: sha1WithRSAEncryption 90:dc:30:02:fa:64:74:c2:a7:0a:a5:7c:21:8d:34:17:a8:fb: 47:0e:ff:25:7c:8d:13:0a:fb:e4:98:b5:ef:8c:f8:c5:10:0d: f7:92:be:f1:c3:d5:d5:95:6a:04:bb:2c:ce:26:36:65:c8:31: c6:e7:ee:3f:e3:57:75:84:7a:11:ef:46:4f:18:f4:d3:98
Windows Pidgin and Comodo Certs
Using Pidgin 2.6.1 on Windows when a new user connects to our Openfire Jabber server Pidgin complains that it cannot find the root certificate for our Comodo certificate. This does not happen using Pidgin 2.5.5 on ubuntu or for other web applications that use other Comodo certs on the same Windows system. Is Pidgin on Windows being shipped with a certificate store that doesn't contain the Comodo root? Bill -- Bill MacAllister, System Software Programmer Unix Systems Group, Stanford University ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
