Re: Can we?
Mark Doliner wrote: Nope, 6 b) allows binary software to be distributed on a CD as long as it is accompanied by a written offer to either give people the source via CD or give people access to the source on a network server. No. It doesn't allow the network server option. I think this is open to interpretation. The GPL only states that the source must be available through equivalent copying facilities. If they make their binary available via FTP and the source available via HTTP, that's good enough for me because I consider those two to be equivalent for this purpose. I believe the intent is to ensure that the person who received the binary is equally capable of receiving the source. The person may be behind a firewall that blocks one, but not the other. The technology they are using may be old (not a network case, but, for example, offering executables on CD, but sources on Bluray might be used to prevent effective supply of the source to some classes of user). Going the other way, the alternative technology might have become effectively obsolete for the normal user - they might even have the capability to use it, but simply not know how - given the questions asked on this list, that would be quite possible for Pidgin. It used to say on a medium customarily used for software distribution, but nowadays it would be easy to choose such a medium that would be effectively inaccessible to many people who might benefit from the source, even if 9 track, half inch, tape is no longer customearily used. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Can we?
Mark Doliner wrote: Yeah that should be totally fine. Pidgin is licensed under the GPL, and is therefore free to distribute. If you make any modifications you're obligated to offer the source code to those modifications to anyone who you've offered the binary. I don't believe that they have to modify the code to come under that obligation. Section 3 applies to executables distributed under both section 1 and section 2. They would be strongly advised to include the source code on the CD, as that fulfills their obligation with no further hassle. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Can we?
Mark Doliner wrote: I feel like this part of the GPL is a little vague. Relevant excerpt from GPLv3, section 6d: You are allowed to distribute the binary provided you offer equivalent access to the Corresponding Source in the same way through the same place at no further charge. ... If the place to copy the That seems stronger than V2 for non-network access. As they are providing it on CD, it seems to require that they provide the source on CD, free, which makes it even more important that they include it with the original CD. object code is a network server, the Corresponding Source may be on a different server (operated by you or a third party) that supports This only applies to network access. equivalent copying facilities, provided you maintain clear directions next to the object code saying where to find the Corresponding Source. Regardless of what server hosts the Corresponding Source, you remain obligated to ensure that it is available for as long as needed to satisfy these requirements. I don't know about Pidgin, but this can be tricky for some software, as the original site will often remove the source as soon as the mandatory availability period is over. My interpretation is that it's fine for them to distribute an unmodified binary as long as they tell people you can get the source from http://pidgin.im/; And I'm personally ok with that. And they only distribute it using HTTP. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: harassment issue
Teddybear12787 wrote: I use pidgin with aim and I am being harassed by a user. I know how to block him but he keeps on using different screen names to harass me. How do I report this to AIM. Their website was not helpful at all. The procedure is given in http://www.aim.com/help_faq/starting_out/getstarted.adp#thirteen. It involves using the standard client. I would advise using the standard client in this case, as you may get rejected out of hand by their first line support people, if they think you are using a non-standard client, even though the issue has nothing to do with the client. The aim.com doesn't have an official abuse contact, but emailing abuse@some relevant domain name may also get to the right people. (Include details of times, timezones, screen names, etc.) Unfortuantely, blocking a persistent IM abuser depends on AIMs ability to identify the underlying abuser. This may involve cooperation from their ISP, and a really determined abuser may continually change ISPs. Ultimately, though, this is an issue between you and AIM and not related to Pidgin. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Trouble logging in to Mxit
Marnie Olivier wrote: I downloaded Pidgin and tried to connect to Mxit, using the same details that i use to log in to Mxit on my Phone but it keeps giving me a message that says: *_Error contacting the Mxit Wap site. Please try again later_* what should i do? Try the following links, where it may be possible to get support on the MXit plugin for pidgin. http://devzone.mxit.com/trac/libpurple/ http://devzone.mxit.com/forum/libpurple/ The plugin is not supported by this list. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: ibpurple security vulnerability
Erik Test wrote: Couldn't you submit a bug report to Pidgin? Does the bug tracker support confidential reports? Typically such people don't want vulnerabilities publicised to the hackers until they are fixed or the maintainers have failed to respond expeditiously. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Running the program
Steve VanSlyck wrote: Can someone please advise where the executable is after the install finishes? That would depend on the OS and the installer. For Windows, if it hasn't created a start menu item, I would consider it to have failed to install, if it has, just look at the properties on the short cut. For Unix/Linux, I would typically use a package from the makers of the OS/Linux distribution, and they would choose the location. If you use make install, you can look at the Makefile. Most modern Unix like systems also have whereis, find and locate commands. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: can't add more buddies
Kelsey Padrick wrote: and the operating system would be Windows right? That's worrying. It's too easy for Microsoft to establish a monopoly if consumers don't know what they are using. Markets require informed consumers. If you don't know what you are using, it is almost certainly some version of MS Windows. As it is presumably post Windows 95, launch My Computer, then select the About item in the Help menu. (More detailed information can be obtained by using the Run... item, on the start menu, and entering winmsd (there are also GUI ways of reaching this). (I'm not sure if winmsd is still present on Windows Vista.) The date (month and year) of purchase, and country, for the computer, might also give a clue as to the version, although we'd also need to know whether or not the machine is a netbook. One of the problems that a third party, and, at least in the case of MSN, unapproved, client has is that the service provider can change the service, to make it incompatible, without warning, however it is interesting that all the problem reports come from people with rather limited computer knowledge. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Good documentation for LIBPURPLE and PHURPLE
Valdis wrote: Hi, where can I find a good documentation for Phurple/Libpurple? Where have you already tried? In my experience, the only time that software libraries get good documentation is when they get standardised by international bodies. It may well be that you have already found the best that is available. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: please help
Helon van Dyk wrote: Can not get mxit pc to work. Login problems Please see the answer given to all the other people having problems with the MXit plugin. It helps to read recent postings before asking a question. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: please help
Helon van Dyk wrote: Can not get mxit pc to work. Login problems The install instructions clearly say If you have any issues, please check the MXit Pidgin Plugin Forum http://devzone.mxit.com/forum/libpurple/, although the volume of MXit postings there seems a lot less than here. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Mxit mobile
Valintina Moodley wrote: Please assist me in loading my mobile mxit onto my pc using pidgin Please read recent postings before posting off topic. When you do find the correct support channel for the MXit plugin, please raise the issue that too many people are going to the wrong place for support. There is clearly a problem in its documentation or marketing. DISCLAIMER: 1) CONFIDENTIALITY: This email is confidential and contains privileged or copyright information. You may not present this message to It ceased to be confidential when you posted it to a public mailing list! -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Rss Support in Pidgin ?
dhruv bhutani wrote: I'd like to know if we can add rss support to get the headlines from rss feeds instantaneously. RSS is a pull technology, so it will never give you instantaneous results. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Cuenta deshabilitada
Sonia wrote: Since some days ago I can´t open my pidgin chat. It says that my count has been disabled (deshabilitada) and I don´t understand the reason why.Could you please help me? You will have to ask the people who run your account. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Cannot connect
Rich Cowe wrote: Just downloaded the latest version. I have an account with Yahoo. I Which version number? Which operating system? Followed the instructions on the install and added my account to the account interface in pidgin. At the bottom of the buddy list interface Which of the suggested fixes recently posted to this list have you already tried? it says: Available - Connecting. Connecting is grayed out and the animation isn't spinning. I have turned off the anti-virus and have check all the menu items to see if I have missed anything. The windows firewall isn't on. This workstation is connected to a domain. I have version 2.5.8 Is there any other information you need? Which ISP? (They might be blocking yahoo). From which country? (Might affect which yahoo server you use and the version of the protocol.) Which other yahoo clients have you successfully used from the same machine, with the same ISP. What is logged in the debug log, as described in http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/TipsForBugReports? Anything else that might give a clue as to how your use differs from that of the many people for which it works. Going beyond what might be reasonable expectations for an ordinary user: The output of the command line netstat command. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Cannot connect
Rich Cowe wrote: I am not able to connect using my Yahoo account in pidgin. If you want help, and the answers to other similar queries didn't solve your problem, you are going to have to provide a lot more information than that. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Passwort
frank wrote: Ich kann Pidgin nicht mehr aktivieren, habe mein Passwot vergessen. See the answer to unable to log into Pidgin. Translation: I can no longer start Pidgin (because) I've forgotten my password. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Simpler update (Windows)
David Balazic wrote: 1.) click next (Welcome...) Possibly a limitation of the installer package. 2.) agree to license Typical open source licences aren't written to cover future updates, so there is a new licence being given. This step may not be strictly necessary for bare licences, but given the populare confusion between freeware, open source and public domain, possibly desirable. Commercial software updaters often require agreement to a supplementary licence agreement, at this point. 3.) components selection Needed. A user might change the selection, or there may be new choices. 4.) Destination folder selection Redundant, but only if the installer is able to find the old folder. 5.) Confirming the completion Desirable. This represents the start of the commit for the udpate, and it needs to be clear to the user when they are going to do the permanent change. I sometimes dry run installs. 6.) Confirming finishation (with the option to run) Possibly built into the installer package. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Crash whilst changing (CJK?) font on Windows Vista (was: Bugs report)
fan feng wrote: Pidgin v2.5.8 on vista sp2, qq 2005 protocol, Pidgin itself crashed. In chat window,edit font. Was it installed from source or binary? When it crashes: - do all Pidgin Windows disappear? If not, according to task manager, how many CPUs worth of processing power is Pidgin still using? - is an error message displayed? If so, what, exactly? - is there anything written to the event log? I assume you are using a Chinese font. Does it crash for a Western font? I don't have Vista and I'm not familiar with the debugging support for Pidgin on Vista, but if it crashes or freezes, on XP, it ought to be possible to obtain DrWatson output, or a minidump, that might be useful. (I'm assuming you are not a software developer.) If it exits normally, but abruptly, I would expect it to write something to the event log, or to its own log. (I'm not going to be able to debug this myself; I'm just trying to get the information that someone else will need to do that.) -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Bugs report
fan feng wrote: I am a chinese user, i set font will lead app crashed: In talk window,字体(Font)-字体(Font) And it's hard to send image in talk window. Which operating system?] Which version of Pidgin? Which instant messaging protocol? What do you mean by crash? (Freezes, terminates, etc.) Exactly what does one need to do to reproduce the fault. Note. In your case, I think it would help if you asked the question in both English and Chinese -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Legality of .NET Messenger (MSN Messenger) with Pidgin/GAIM
I've been using GAIM to access .NET Messenger from Linux, but have just upgraded my Windows partition to XP. When I tried to log in to MSN Messenger, it said there was a mandatory upgrade, which I downloaded. I am one of those people who actually reads small print, so I read the licence terms and it seems to say that I may not use unauthorised clients to access .NET Messenger. Not unsurprisingly, Pidgin/GAIM is not amongst the small list on their authorised clients sites. I abandoned the install to avoid agreeing, until I'd researched the issue more. Is there any news on this restriction? -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
