Re: Hello World, how to use bonjour
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Re: Hello World, how to use bonjour
my question goes into how to use it First, please reply all when emailing this list so that your responses go the entire list. Secondly, the Bonjour protocol (or more properly known as ZeroConfig) is already supported in Pidgin, so when you say I would love to see more features on this IM it leads me to believe that you don't know that it is already supported. But please be aware that Bonjour does a lot more than chat. For example, Pidgin won't help you find a Bonjour-supported printer, or find AirPlay devices on your network. :) Here is the wikipedia article on ZeroConfig: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-configuration_networking From an implementation perspective, your network complexity can make or break a Bonjour roll-out. This is because of the way discovery works. Unless you have an mDNS reflector, running Bonjour from different subnets can have problems. http://linux.die.net/man/5/avahi-daemon.conf From a Linux-desktop perspective, install avahi-discover and it should work automatically. I do believe there is a lack of documentation on this topic, but from a functionality perspective, it already works very well! Below is a screenshot of Windows 8 talking to Ubuntu 12.04 using the Bonjour protocol. -Tres - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Hi thanks, this is not really what I am looking for, I use linux. And my question goes into how to use it, not into what do I need. On 11/2/14, Tres Finocchiaro tres.finocchi...@gmail.com wrote: https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Protocol%20Specific%20Questions#CanIuseWindowsPidginforBonjour -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: https://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Hello World, how to use bonjour
On 11/3/14, Tres Finocchiaro tres.finocchi...@gmail.com wrote: my question goes into how to use it First, please reply all when emailing this list so that your responses go the entire list. Seems the mailing list is not configured the reply-to variable to the mailing list by default. Secondly, the Bonjour protocol (or more properly known as ZeroConfig) is already supported in Pidgin, so when you say I would love to see more features on this IM it leads me to believe that you don't know that it is already supported. But please be aware that Bonjour does a lot more than chat. For example, Pidgin won't help you find a Bonjour-supported printer, or find AirPlay devices on your network. :) If you read carefully you could see that I already knew all that. I was asking for Pidgin Bonjour documentation and not Bonjour documentation. Which is why I was addressing this mailing list. Here is the wikipedia article on ZeroConfig: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-configuration_networking From an implementation perspective, your network complexity can make or break a Bonjour roll-out. This is because of the way discovery works. Unless you have an mDNS reflector, running Bonjour from different subnets can have problems. http://linux.die.net/man/5/avahi-daemon.conf From a Linux-desktop perspective, install avahi-discover and it should work automatically. I do believe there is a lack of documentation on this topic, but from a functionality perspective, it already works very well! This is my point. A more specific questions goes on the lines of: - How do I create an account. - What do I need to be running t make the account work (you said to install avahi-discover) but I think this is more complex than flipping a switch on the preferences. IE seems this is a gtk app and I use KDE. - What is the process to discover users, is there a 'scan' tool or does users just show up on my buddy list. - I see that the users show up on a bonjour group. Is this the default? Below is a screenshot of Windows 8 talking to Ubuntu 12.04 using the Bonjour protocol. -Tres - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Hi thanks, this is not really what I am looking for, I use linux. And my question goes into how to use it, not into what do I need. On 11/2/14, Tres Finocchiaro tres.finocchi...@gmail.com wrote: https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Protocol%20Specific%20Questions#CanIuseWindowsPidginforBonjour -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: https://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Hello World, how to use bonjour
On 03/11/14 18:29, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Seems the mailing list is not configured the reply-to variable to the mailing list by default. That is normally considered a bad idea, although this list might be an exception http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html. I have certainly made private replies on list on ones set to reply to list. It also doesn't necessarily work. I forced it on a reply I made and the OP still replied to me. Another thing that is normally bad practice, but can be essential on this list, is to CC the OP. What makes this list special is that most people posting to it have never used a mailing list before, and they are nearly all unsubscribed. Many think they are talking to some Pidgin support contact centre. As a result, they don't see replies that are not CCed to them and they think that anyone answering is their personal support person. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: https://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Hello World, how to use bonjour
This is my point. A more specific questions goes on the lines of: - How do I create an account. You don't. Adium's tutorial ftp://ftp.cs.stanford.edu/pub/Mac/Adium.app/Contents/Resources/AdiumHelp/pgs/Account-Bonjour.htmlis a bit better in this regard (the software differs slightly, but same idea) - What do I need to be running t make the account work (you said to install avahi-discover) but I think this is more complex than flipping a switch on the preferences. IE seems this is a gtk app and I use KDE. Pidgin already requires GTK and avahi-discover uses GTK w/ what appears to be a python-gtk GUI. I'm not sure if there is a gui-less version, you'll have to contact the avahi list, but as a KDE user I doubt this is the first GTK app you've installed. - What is the process to discover users, is there a 'scan' tool or does users just show up on my buddy list. They just show up. It's part of the protocol. You can use the command line tool avahi-discover as well, if you are ok with installing it. - I see that the users show up on a bonjour group. Is this the default? Yes. If you read carefully you could see that I already knew all that. I was asking for Pidgin Bonjour documentation and not Bonjour documentation. Which is why I was addressing this mailing list. And I stated that documentation is lacking in this regard. Do you normally criticize those that help you? :) ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: https://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Hello World, how to use bonjour
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