Re: Zooming Pictures

[William Morrison]

Leonidas Jones wrote:
I tried installing it using Mr Tech to override, but it won't work.  
I'm pretty sure that's what gave you the capability in the first place.


Lee



Yes I figured that was it, too bad, I really liked being able to zoom 
just the picture.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 lost my profile

[Sarah Austin]

I just took the simple route and deleted 2.0 and kept 1.1.18.

I hope they fix this in future versions.

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Re: Zooming Pictures

[Barry Edwin Gilmour]

 William Morrison wrote:

Yes, that is what I had on 1.1.18 but is not compatible with 2.0.
Not to change the subject but where is the bookmark.html file stored 
on SM 2.0 I want to try something with my opening message pane in the 
mail client.


Change of Profile Location
New location:
%APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\\(bookmarks.html)




Leonidas Jones wrote:

William Morrison wrote:

What Happened to the ability to enlarge pictures by holding right
clicking of mouse and scrolling or was that an add-on?



Try this extension, it would seem to be what you want:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/139

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Re: SM2 Slow Newsgroup Reader

[Kent Briggs]

NoOp wrote:


OK, what happens if you use news.update_unread_on_expand;false *and*
adjust the Server Settings|Server Settings. Say to 'Check for new
messages at startup' and 'Check for new messages ever 10 minutes'?


"Check for new messages at startup" causes the whole mail reader to bog 
down for about 30 seconds at startup. That was just for the server that 
I have 13 groups in. I think the delay is in proportion to how many 
posts are in the groups. Some of those 13 have tens of thousands of 
posts in them. I don't see those because I have them all marked as read 
and I have the thread setting set to view only unread messages. But 
SeaMonkey 1.1.18 and earlier version had no problem with those.

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Re: Zooming Pictures

[Leonidas Jones]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

William Morrison wrote:

What Happened to the ability to enlarge pictures by holding right
clicking of mouse and scrolling or was that an add-on?



Try this extension, it would seem to be what you want:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/139

Lee

Lee, are you sure you got this to work on SM-2.0?
I downloaded version 0.3.1 from your link, and also from
http://imagezoom.yellowgorilla.net, and even tried-editing the RDF
maximum-version to enable SM-2.0's add-ons-manager (which point-blank
rejected-it as an XPFE-extension, even when-using
"over-ride-compatibility-check"). Maybe I'm overlooking something, but
that extension doesn't seem to want to work on toolkit.


Ah you are right, its not there for Sm 2.0, but that's probably what
gave the capability in earlier versions. Either that or MonkeyMenu.

Lee




I tried installing it using Mr Tech to override, but it won't work.  I'm 
pretty sure that's what gave you the capability in the first place.


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Re: New Seamonkey

[Leonidas Jones]

Phillip Jones wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

/snip/

One thing I miss about not being able to use the SkyPilot Theme as He
had added the grippes back with the ability to click on a center arrow
and it would completely collapes the text window so you could mark a
series of emails as read. the click again and it woul open back up to
original position. Now to do similar you grab devider pull down like a
window shade, the you have pull it back up and reset the position.

SkyPilot was a Time Saver. Click Mark you items want marked read; click
go back to original position. Now take time to Drag down, mar, take
time
to drag up. if your in three pane mode the click bar is a time saver
opening and closing the side bar. but since it breaks some items. I had
to abandon it to the regular Theme. Yuck!



By the way Phillip, I installed Sky Pilot on my MacBook, first disabling
Mr Tech. It installs just fine, give it a shot!

http://www.projectit.com/

Lee


It works, but it interferes with QuoteColors and when you use
_underline_ it doesn't work. The Author of Quote Colors found the bugs
by loading the Mac version of SkyPilot and it reacted the same way.

I am using the Venerable Theme now Just to see if the underline works.


Yeah!!! Underline works and Quote Colors. I'd like a different color
(Grey or even yellow) But I can live with it.



I'm running Venerable Modern (thanks Sailfish) and its real nice. 
LCARStrek also works, and I like it too.


Sorry about Sky Pilot.

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Re: New Seamonkey

[Leonidas Jones]

Philip Chee wrote:

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:15:33 -0500, Leonidas Jones wrote:


I did see that on the Windows version of the default theme, there is a
divider that lets you see where you can click and where you can't.  On
the Mac, it isn't so clear.

On the other hand, the default theme on the Mac looks a lot better,
Then again, i am prejudiced.


You should thank our Mac expert stefanh. He spent a lot of time and
effort fine tuning the "Default" theme for the Mac; so much so that it's
almost a separate theme.

Phil



It is beautiful indeed, though "grippies" support would be nice.

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Re: New Seamonkey

[Leonidas Jones]

Rufus wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:52:28 -0800, Rufus wrote:


I'm an obsessive Mac user myself (I own 4 working ones, and have another
collection of defunct ones in my garage) - control+click on a Mac is
also a default equivalent for a right-click on a PC. Click and hold
also works...never tried that one before, so you taught me something!
Glad you got it solved.


Uugh? Click and hold goes back to OS 9 at the very least. I knew about
c&h and I have never owned a Mac; or used one beyond helping a friend
troubleshoot her internet connection.

Phil



...never had a reason to right click anything under OS 9...only when I
got to X did it become of any utility.



Under OS9 right clicking depended on downloading software for the multi 
button mouse. It is still possible to download OS9 drivers for Microsoft 
and Logitech devices.



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Re: Am I the only one using a portal home page

[William Morrison]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

why wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/7/2009 4:24 PM, Smiles wrote:

Good day

I volunteer as a computer instructor and have two 4 hour classes on 
the

internet and email setup and use.

I have for 10 years demonstrate and recommend having a local html
document as your homepage for which ever browser you you use.

I do give them a sample to start with it basically sets up a four 
column

web page to which you can populate with your daily websites you visit.

Mine has about 20 for daily visits plus 20 others I select from for
daily phone support with a total of about 50 which are used within the
week. One of them links to by bookmarks for fast launch


Do any one in the group use a similar plan and document?

My boss said it of no value and is best removed, this feature does
double as a html coding class.

thanks to all that reply :)


MozillaZine conducted a survey several years ago (when that site was
more actively maintained). A large number of users use their bookmarks
file (bookmarks.html) as their home page. that's what I do.
Functionally, that is similar to what you do. However, the Bookmark
Manager maintains the file, thus eliminating it as a tool for learning
HTML.


Hey David I must be having a blond moment I can't for the life of me
remember where 2.0 stores the Bookmark.html file and I like to setup my
opening mail window to open like this, can you tell me where it's 
stored.


Its in your profile folder. If you don't know where it is, the easy 
way is to do a system  search for bookmarks.html. Make sure that 
searching hidden files and folders are selected.  Verify that those 
are your bookmarks, then use those.
Ok thanks, what I wanted to do was have the opening mail message pane 
display it on startup but it says it's the wrong protocol. I guess it 
has to have a actual web address to open it there not just a html file.


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Re: New Seamonkey

[Philip Chee]

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:15:33 -0500, Leonidas Jones wrote:

> I did see that on the Windows version of the default theme, there is a 
> divider that lets you see where you can click and where you can't.  On 
> the Mac, it isn't so clear.
> 
> On the other hand, the default theme on the Mac looks a lot better, 
> Then again, i am prejudiced.

You should thank our Mac expert stefanh. He spent a lot of time and
effort fine tuning the "Default" theme for the Mac; so much so that it's
almost a separate theme.

Phil

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Re: New Seamonkey

[Philip Chee]

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:41:11 -0500, Leonidas Jones wrote:

> Your MacBook is newer then mine, the two finger tap doesn't work here, 
> but click and hold does.  I went back to Sailfish's Venerable Modern, 
> and there is plenty of room for a right click/click and hold.  I don;t 
> really want to shut SM down right now to switch themes, but I will check 
> it later in the default theme.
> 
> Aha, I just tried opening Seamonkey 2.0 on Win 2.K.  (Virtualbox is a 
> wonderful thing!) On Windows, the default theme *has* gripppies.  It 
> seems to be a Mac bug.

No, it's not a bug, or at least this was deliberate. Something to do
with conforming with the Apple HIG.

Phil

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Re: Zooming Pictures

[Leonidas Jones]

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

William Morrison wrote:

What Happened to the ability to enlarge pictures by holding right
clicking of mouse and scrolling or was that an add-on?



Try this extension, it would seem to be what you want:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/139

Lee

Lee, are you sure you got this to work on SM-2.0?
I downloaded version 0.3.1 from your link, and also from
http://imagezoom.yellowgorilla.net, and even tried-editing the RDF
maximum-version to enable SM-2.0's add-ons-manager (which point-blank
rejected-it as an XPFE-extension, even when-using
"over-ride-compatibility-check"). Maybe I'm overlooking something, but
that extension doesn't seem to want to work on toolkit.


Ah you are right, its not there for Sm 2.0, but that's probably what 
gave the capability in earlier versions. Either that or MonkeyMenu.


Lee


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Re: New Seamonkey

[Rufus]

Phillip Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

/snip/


I miss that about the Sidebar, too. This was a default behavior - no
add-ons required - with both the Sidebar and the Mail Preview pane for
the previous Modern themes (you had to click the handle, but that was ok
by me) now you have to drag, and nothing is remembered. Sucks...



Okay, this is odd. Using Venerable Modern, I have grippies, and with a
click I can hide the side bar, then display it again. Just to make sure
it is not theme related, I switched back to the default theme. The
grippies are still there, and I can still hide and display the sidebar
with one click. That does not work for you?

Lee


Gripes don't work on the standard themes from Mozilla. The Gripes were
removed several years ago because the two lines of code required for
them was wasted space. I see the work on venerable. Now if underline
works I will stay with it.



Grip/snap works for the built in Modern Theme, not there on the built in 
Default one.  Verified that earlier tonight.


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Re: Am I the only one using a portal home page

[Leonidas Jones]

why wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/7/2009 4:24 PM, Smiles wrote:

Good day

I volunteer as a computer instructor and have two 4 hour classes on the
internet and email setup and use.

I have for 10 years demonstrate and recommend having a local html
document as your homepage for which ever browser you you use.

I do give them a sample to start with it basically sets up a four column
web page to which you can populate with your daily websites you visit.

Mine has about 20 for daily visits plus 20 others I select from for
daily phone support with a total of about 50 which are used within the
week. One of them links to by bookmarks for fast launch


Do any one in the group use a similar plan and document?

My boss said it of no value and is best removed, this feature does
double as a html coding class.

thanks to all that reply :)


MozillaZine conducted a survey several years ago (when that site was
more actively maintained). A large number of users use their bookmarks
file (bookmarks.html) as their home page. that's what I do.
Functionally, that is similar to what you do. However, the Bookmark
Manager maintains the file, thus eliminating it as a tool for learning
HTML.


Hey David I must be having a blond moment I can't for the life of me
remember where 2.0 stores the Bookmark.html file and I like to setup my
opening mail window to open like this, can you tell me where it's stored.


Its in your profile folder. If you don't know where it is, the easy way 
is to do a system  search for bookmarks.html. Make sure that searching 
hidden files and folders are selected.  Verify that those are your 
bookmarks, then use those.


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Re: New Seamonkey

[Phillip Jones]

Phillip Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

/snip/

One thing I miss about not being able to use the SkyPilot Theme as He
had added the grippes back with the ability to click on a center arrow
and it would completely collapes the text window so you could mark a
series of emails as read. the click again and it woul open back up to
original position. Now to do similar you grab devider pull down like a
window shade, the you have pull it back up and reset the position.

SkyPilot was a Time Saver. Click Mark you items want marked read; click
go back to original position. Now take time to Drag down, mar, take time
to drag up. if your in three pane mode the click bar is a time saver
opening and closing the side bar. but since it breaks some items. I had
to abandon it to the regular Theme. Yuck!



By the way Phillip, I installed Sky Pilot on my MacBook, first disabling
Mr Tech.  It installs just fine, give it a shot!

http://www.projectit.com/

Lee


It works, but it interferes with QuoteColors and when you use
_underline_ it doesn't work. The Author of Quote Colors found the bugs
by loading the Mac version of SkyPilot and it reacted the same way.

I am using the Venerable Theme now Just to see if the underline works.

Yeah!!! Underline works and Quote Colors. I'd like a different color 
(Grey or even yellow) But I can live with it.


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Re: New Seamonkey

[Rufus]

Philip Chee wrote:

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:00:25 -0800, Rufus wrote:


It's probably given the amount of time I spend on a laptop - I try to
set up all my machines (Mac and PCs at work) to function as nearly the
same as I can, so middle clicking is just an annoyance for me -
particularly if I'm using a trackpad.


I just configure my notebook trackpad so that tapping in the top right
hand corner sends a middle-click to the OS. Works wonders.

Phil



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Re: New Seamonkey

[Rufus]

Philip Chee wrote:

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:52:28 -0800, Rufus wrote:


I'm an obsessive Mac user myself (I own 4 working ones, and have another
collection of defunct ones in my garage) - control+click on a Mac is
also a default equivalent for a right-click on a PC.  Click and hold
also works...never tried that one before, so you taught me something!
Glad you got it solved.


Uugh? Click and hold goes back to OS 9 at the very least. I knew about
c&h and I have never owned a Mac; or used one beyond helping a friend
troubleshoot her internet connection.

Phil



...never had a reason to right click anything under OS 9...only when I 
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Re: New Seamonkey

[Phillip Jones]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

/snip/


I miss that about the Sidebar, too. This was a default behavior - no
add-ons required - with both the Sidebar and the Mail Preview pane for
the previous Modern themes (you had to click the handle, but that was ok
by me) now you have to drag, and nothing is remembered. Sucks...



Okay, this is odd.  Using Venerable Modern, I have grippies, and with a
click I can hide the side bar, then display it again.  Just to make sure
it is not theme related, I switched back to the default theme.  The
grippies are still there, and I can still hide and display the sidebar
with one click.  That does not work for you?

Lee


Gripes don't work on the standard themes from Mozilla. The Gripes were 
removed several years ago because the two lines of code required for 
them was wasted space. I see the work on venerable. Now if underline 
works I will stay with it.


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Re: New Seamonkey

[Philip Chee]

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:00:25 -0800, Rufus wrote:

> It's probably given the amount of time I spend on a laptop - I try to 
> set up all my machines (Mac and PCs at work) to function as nearly the 
> same as I can, so middle clicking is just an annoyance for me - 
> particularly if I'm using a trackpad.

I just configure my notebook trackpad so that tapping in the top right
hand corner sends a middle-click to the OS. Works wonders.

Phil

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Re: New Seamonkey

[Philip Chee]

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:52:28 -0800, Rufus wrote:

> I'm an obsessive Mac user myself (I own 4 working ones, and have another 
> collection of defunct ones in my garage) - control+click on a Mac is 
> also a default equivalent for a right-click on a PC.  Click and hold 
> also works...never tried that one before, so you taught me something! 
> Glad you got it solved.

Uugh? Click and hold goes back to OS 9 at the very least. I knew about
c&h and I have never owned a Mac; or used one beyond helping a friend
troubleshoot her internet connection.

Phil

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Re: New Seamonkey

[Phillip Jones]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

/snip/

One thing I miss about not being able to use the SkyPilot Theme as He
had added the grippes back with the ability to click on a center arrow
and it would completely collapes the text window so you could mark a
series of emails as read. the click again and it woul open back up to
original position. Now to do similar you grab devider pull down like a
window shade, the you have pull it back up and reset the position.

SkyPilot was a Time Saver. Click Mark you items want marked read; click
go back to original position. Now take time to Drag down, mar, take time
to drag up. if your in three pane mode the click bar is a time saver
opening and closing the side bar. but since it breaks some items. I had
to abandon it to the regular Theme. Yuck!



By the way Phillip, I installed Sky Pilot on my MacBook, first disabling
Mr Tech.  It installs just fine, give it a shot!

http://www.projectit.com/

Lee


It works, but it interferes with QuoteColors and when you use 
_underline_ it doesn't work. The Author of Quote Colors found the bugs 
by loading the Mac version of SkyPilot and it reacted the same way.


I am using the Venerable Theme now Just to see if the underline works.

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Re: Zooming Pictures

[William Morrison]

Yes, that is what I had on 1.1.18 but is not compatible with 2.0.
Not to change the subject but where is the bookmark.html file stored on 
SM 2.0 I want to try something with my opening message pane in the mail 
client.


Leonidas Jones wrote:

William Morrison wrote:

What Happened to the ability to enlarge pictures by holding right
clicking of mouse and scrolling or was that an add-on?



Try this extension, it would seem to be what you want:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/139

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Re: CNET approves SeaMonkey

[User]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

User wrote:

Might have been useful if a URL to the article was posted.


Walter wrote:

A current post on CNET gives SM as one of the best 5 applications to
install with your new Windows 7 computer.

Way to go, team.

w.


I don't see a top five citation, but there is this:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-10384906-264.html

Lee



Yes, I've noticed that article some days ago when SM 2.0 was released.
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Re: Copy & Paste

[Philip Chee]

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:08:41 -0800, David E. Ross wrote:

> I have this problem in Thunderbird 2, but I don't have any McAfee
> software at all.  The problem is inherent in Thunderbird, which is the
> basis of mail-news in SeaMonkey.

David, please stop posting incorrect information about this problem. You
have been repeatedly told your Thunderbird problem is not the same as this.

Phil

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Re: CNET approves SeaMonkey

[Leonidas Jones]

User wrote:

Might have been useful if a URL to the article was posted.


Walter wrote:

A current post on CNET gives SM as one of the best 5 applications to
install with your new Windows 7 computer.

Way to go, team.

w.


I don't see a top five citation, but there is this:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-10384906-264.html

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Re: Zooming Pictures

[Barry Edwin Gilmour]

 Leonidas Jones wrote:

William Morrison wrote:

What Happened to the ability to enlarge pictures by holding right
clicking of mouse and scrolling or was that an add-on?



Try this extension, it would seem to be what you want:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/139

Lee

Lee, are you sure you got this to work on SM-2.0?
I downloaded version 0.3.1 from your link, and also from 
http://imagezoom.yellowgorilla.net, and even tried-editing the RDF 
maximum-version to enable SM-2.0's add-ons-manager (which point-blank 
rejected-it as an XPFE-extension, even when-using 
"over-ride-compatibility-check"). Maybe I'm overlooking something, but 
that extension doesn't seem to want to work on toolkit.

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Re: New Seamonkey

[Phillip Jones]

Phillip Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 6/11/2009 19:38, Barbara Norvell told the
world:

I love the new Seamonkey. I have a little problem. On the front
page,
I did something that made the headings dissappear. I have the Row of
bookmarks and the tabs, but the rest are missing.


Look at the personal toolbar (the "row of bookmarks" you mention).
Are
you seeing a small vertical rectangle on the left side? Yes? OK.

Now look right *above* the personal toolbar. Check if there is a
little
horizontal rectangle, similar to the one you found to the left of the
personal toolbar, only horizontal instead of vertical. If there is
one,
click on it.

Those rectangles are like "toggles" to hide/unhide the toolbars. They
have been there since the Netscape days, I think.




I don't see either of them. That is the first thing I looked for. My
mail window is fine, but I don't see the toggles on that page either.
I assume they are there, or I wouldn't have lost the Top Bar.

Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1


Which Theme are you using? I've noted a few graphical issues with the
2.0 default theme - like some areas of the window excluding clicks -
for
ex: can't get a right-click to register above the Address bar.

Try switching to the Classic Theme and see if that presents the
"collapse" bars for you.



Just noticed the "collapse bars aren't displayed in the Default Theme...

...another thing to try with the Default Theme - right click
(cntrl+click) the Toolbar and make sure "Navigation Toolbar" and
"Personal Toolbar" are both checked.

If you encounter the same bug I have - can't get a contextual menu if
you right-click the top of the Toolbar - try right-clicking at the
bottom of the Toolbar below the URL Address line. That should work.




Couldn't right click, cause I have a Mac, but I did a click and hold,
which I think is comparable to the right click on a pc. It works. My
navigation toolbar was not checked. Thanks

Barb
Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1



I'm an obsessive Mac user myself (I own 4 working ones, and have another
collection of defunct ones in my garage) - control+click on a Mac is
also a default equivalent for a right-click on a PC. Click and hold also
works...never tried that one before, so you taught me something! Glad
you got it solved.



Sometimes click and hold works, sometimes not.  Control Click almost
always emulates a right click.  Command click works for middle click
options in most cases.

Mac OSX is also enabled for three button mice as well.  I love my
bluetooth Mighty Mouse.  I don't know if Apple even sells the one button
mice any more, though.  A lot of full time Mac users refer to right and
middle click, now, since our pointing devices now do that. Of course
laptops still need the shortcuts.

By the way barb, I assume that 1.5.1. was a typo for 1.4.11, the latest
Tiger?

Lee




Actually That's Leopard (not Snow Leopard). But the number is supposed
to be X.5.1 or 10.5.1.

However if she is indeed X.5.1 she is 5 Major revisions behind, and she
needed to Run the X.5.8 Combo Updater and spend a bunch of time updating
security fixes, and revisions in iTunes, and Quicktime, and Java and such.

Although, I don't have a machine capable of using Snow Leopard or
possibly even Leopard (only a 1.67GB Processor on my PowerBook17") I
always updated system and other components as soon as they are
available. I still do update when they add security fixes and component
updates.


Oops that supposed to be 7 revisions not 5 behind

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Re: Am I the only one using a portal home page

[why]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/7/2009 4:24 PM, Smiles wrote:

Good day

I volunteer as a computer instructor and have two 4 hour classes on the
internet and email setup and use.

I have for 10 years demonstrate and recommend having a local html
document as your homepage for which ever browser you you use.

I do give them a sample to start with it basically sets up a four column
web page to which you can populate with your daily websites you visit.

Mine has about 20 for daily visits plus 20 others I select from for
daily phone support with a total of about 50 which are used within the
week. One of them links to by bookmarks for fast launch


Do any one in the group use a similar plan and document?

My boss said it of no value and is best removed, this feature does
double as a html coding class.

thanks to all that reply  :)


MozillaZine conducted a survey several years ago (when that site was
more actively maintained).  A large number of users use their bookmarks
file (bookmarks.html) as their home page.  that's what I do.
Functionally, that is similar to what you do.  However, the Bookmark
Manager maintains the file, thus eliminating it as a tool for learning
HTML.

Hey David I must be having a blond moment I can't for the life of me 
remember where 2.0 stores the Bookmark.html file and I like to setup my 
opening mail window to open like this, can you tell me where it's stored.

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Re: Transferring From NS 4.5 (Win95) to SM 2.0 (XP)

[Leonidas Jones]

OldTimer wrote:

I have Netscape 4.5 on an old IBM PC with Win 95 and I want to transfer
the Mail messages, Inbox, Mail folders & the Address Book to an HP
laptop with Win XP Home SP2 and Seamonkey 2.0 (which already has mail,
folders and address book set up).

With help from references supplied by Martin I have completed the
following steps:

As the old PC only has a floppy drive (A:), I have exported the address
book (LDIF) to a floppy disc by the following steps: Opened Netscape and
clicked on "Address Book", selected the address book and from the File
menu I chose "Export". In the "Export As" window, I typed a file name
and exported it to the floppy drive (A:).

For the mail files, I went to C:\Program Files\Netscape\Users\ and
opened User1 & User2 folders and copied the Inbox.sbd, Inbox, Sent,
Unsent Messages, & Draft files (not .msf) to the floppy disc. Where
there was any duplication of file names with those on the laptop, I
renamed them (eg. InboxOld1, xxxOld2).

I then zipped the mail files on the floppy to a zip folder and copied it
and the Address Book to a CD-RW disc (the laptop does not have a floppy
drive).

I now intend to open the compressed files on the CD with the laptop and
copy them into the equivilant folders/files in my Profiles folder
(abook.mab, Inbox, Sent, etc.).

I hope this all makes sense as I would appreciate some feedback before I
proceed, to assure me that I'm on the right track and have taken the
right steps so far.

An old-timer trying to keep up.
Ed



Darn, Win 95.  I never really used it.  I did use Win 98.

I would be better if this was Mac OS9. ;)

You will be able to install Netscape 7.2 on Windows 95. If you did, it 
would offer to convert your NC 4.5 profile for use in NS 7.2.  This 
would convert the profile data into formats that SeaMonkey 2.0 could 
understand, and enable it to be migrated to a SeaMonkey 2.0 profile, 
making the whole thing easier.


Assuming the Win 95 machine can connect to the internet, try downloading 
Netscape 7.2:


http://browser.netscape.com/releases

Install it, and convert the existing NC 4.5 profile to NS 7.2 use.

Open NS 7.2 and see if all is working as expected, are the bookmarks 
there, is the mail account there, is all the mail there, etc?


If all is good then you copy the entire profile folder. Oh yeah, you 
only have a floppy drive available. It probably won't fit.


Well, see if you can go this far, and the we can regroup.  I', here for 
you.  In this case the sig is justified.


Lee

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Re: TEXT PARTIALLY GRAY INSTEAD OF BLACK. WAS:

[Leonidas Jones]

James wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

James wrote:


Hi, Paul. Please see comments below...

[snip]

Hi, Paul. I told you I would let you know when I find another example
of the apparent random application of light or dark text and here it
is. I'm including the entire message, which is totally light gray text
[header and all; completely light type] in case you might pick up some
clue as to why it should all be light. Or not. Here's the post:
[snip]

End of quote. While in the digest ALL of the text above is light type
here in my composer it's all dark type. Why would it be all light type
in 2.0?

In addition the next message [number 3] in the digest [which happens
to be from me] shows exactly the same result: All light type,
including header in the part I wrote, while the quoted material [from
NoOp] is all dark. Here's the post:
[snip]

Above is the part I wrote, all in light type. Below is the quoted part
of the post, which is all dark type:
[snip]

End of quote. And again the type [while all light in my browser] all
shows up dark in composer.

Next I have messages 4, 5, 6 and 7 which all show complete dark type,
including headers.

Message 8 is all dark type except the part past the two dashes, which
is light. I believe this is the way you're saying it should be. And
AFAIK messages 9 and 10 follow in the manner you describe.

Sorry for so much typing, and I hope some of it makes sense.


What you say is clear, but I can't explain the behavior. Sorry.



.
.
Now that I've switched formats for receiving and replying to messages
from this group [and hopefully gotten the excessive new threads problem
cleared up] then all of those messages seem to follow the correct format
for light and dark type. However, I believe I still have the random
switching between light and dark type in all of my other emails; most of
which are from Yahoo groups.

Regards,
James


I subscribe to several Yahoogroups, and I don't notice the problem. 
This would probably be a good candidate for a new topic/thread.


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Re: Zooming Pictures

[Leonidas Jones]

William Morrison wrote:

What Happened to the ability to enlarge pictures by holding right
clicking of mouse and scrolling or was that an add-on?



Try this extension, it would seem to be what you want:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/139

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Re: SEAMONKEY 2.0 QUICK LAUNCH ICON SHORTCUT GONE

[Leonidas Jones]

James wrote:

Lee, it sounds like you've nailed exactly what was happening; I thought
the software would pick up the subject line for the thread.  That
obviously didn't happen.

So I'm still left wondering if there is a way to properly respond to the
mailing list digest mirror [or whatever it is].  If there is not then
why is it made available?  It would seem rather strange if I were the
only person to ever responded here from the mailing list mirror [or
whatever].

Thanks,
James


Many people have subscribed to the mailing lists, and there have been 
various eccentricities that have come up, though not as involved as 
yours.  What I have not seen is digest users replying and having these 
sorts of problems.


The mailing list was established to broaden the usage options for the 
support groups. While newsgroups are an ideal venue for support of this 
kind, many new users of the internet are unaware of how they can be 
used. However, even the most inexpert user understands email, at least 
to a point.  So a user who doesn't even know that newsgroups exist can 
subscribe to a mailing list, and be able to reach help.


The big problem with the mailing list mirror is the volume. 
Particularly when a major new version is released, as recently with 
SeaMonkey, there can be a couple of hundred posts in a day, really 
clogging a users inbox.


The digest solves that, by sending one email with all the posts in a 
specified period. Yet replying to one of those posts has obviously 
caused a problem.


The best answer, as we have found is to use the newsgroup interface for 
which it was designed.  Here we have the happy result, and I hope we can 
continue to help you with any problems you have. When you have time, 
read through the other posts in the group, its amazing what you can 
learn about the application.


Lee


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Re: New Seamonkey

[Rufus]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

/snip/


Update, I opened SM 2.0 in the default theme on the MacBook. No
grippies, so that Mac bug is pretty clear. I did right click with no
problem above the location bar. I played with the customize settings. If
I have large icons and text, there is plenty of room to right click.
With just icons, there is a little less room. If I set small icons, its
pretty tight. That's using the Mighty Mouse. with the trackpad, I can
still do it, but its tight for a click and hold.

If you have small icons set, try large icons and see if t gives you a
bit more room.

Lee


Yeah - I get the most room set to large icons, text beneath icon. BUt
there's still a lot more room that I could register a click in that
doesn't respond.

Two finger tap to right-click rocks!



I did see that on the Windows version of the default theme, there is a
divider that lets you see where you can click and where you can't. On
the Mac, it isn't so clear.

On the other hand, the default theme on the Mac looks a lot better, Then
again, i am prejudiced.

Lee


I haven't seen SM on Windows...at work I'm forced to use Explorer...yuck...

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Re: Zooming Pictures

[Barry Edwin Gilmour]

 William Morrison wrote:
What Happened to the ability to enlarge pictures by holding right 
clicking of mouse and scrolling or was that an add-on?


For image and text zoom, SM2 is now more-exact. Approximate-variables 
no-longer work.


Default-behavior is image+text (page) zoom:-
main-toolbar "View | Zoom" and select the Zoom-factor. ~~ If you really 
want 300x +, select "_O_ther(300%)..", and type the required zoom-factor 
into the cell-box that appears.


You can zoom text-only:-
Edit | Preferences | Appearance | Content | (checkbox at 
bottom-of-panel) Zoom only text instead of full pages, and then to 
main-toolbar "View | Zoom" etcetera


And, you also can still enlarge pictures-only using:-
mouse-over right-mouse-click | right-click "View-Image" (or middle-click 
remote-images, if you've preferenced "open-links in new tab"), and-then 
to main-toolbar "View | Zoom" etcetera


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Re: TEXT PARTIALLY GRAY INSTEAD OF BLACK. WAS:

[James]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

James wrote:


Hi, Paul. Please see comments below...

[snip]

Hi, Paul. I told you I would let you know when I find another example
of the apparent random application of light or dark text and here it
is. I'm including the entire message, which is totally light gray text
[header and all; completely light type] in case you might pick up some
clue as to why it should all be light. Or not. Here's the post:
[snip]

End of quote. While in the digest ALL of the text above is light type
here in my composer it's all dark type. Why would it be all light type
in 2.0?

In addition the next message [number 3] in the digest [which happens
to be from me] shows exactly the same result: All light type,
including header in the part I wrote, while the quoted material [from
NoOp] is all dark. Here's the post:
[snip]

Above is the part I wrote, all in light type. Below is the quoted part
of the post, which is all dark type:
[snip]

End of quote. And again the type [while all light in my browser] all
shows up dark in composer.

Next I have messages 4, 5, 6 and 7 which all show complete dark type,
including headers.

Message 8 is all dark type except the part past the two dashes, which
is light. I believe this is the way you're saying it should be. And
AFAIK messages 9 and 10 follow in the manner you describe.

Sorry for so much typing, and I hope some of it makes sense.


What you say is clear, but I can't explain the behavior. Sorry.



.
.
Now that I've switched formats for receiving and replying to messages 
from this group [and hopefully gotten the excessive new threads problem 
cleared up] then all of those messages seem to follow the correct format 
for light and dark type.  However, I believe I still have the random 
switching between light and dark type in all of my other emails; most of 
which are from Yahoo groups.


Regards,
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Re: Odd SM2 problems

[Leonidas Jones]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Mr. Cheese wrote:

Mr. Cheese wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Mr. Cheese wrote:

- the toolbar for changing font sizes, adding emoticons, etc does not
display when composing an email. I can't find a place to change this.

- when I look at some old emails which are replies to emails the
quoted
email shows in some odd unreadable font.

Any help would be appreciated


Fir the first, you are probably set to compose in plain text. The
formatting toolbar only appears when you are composing in html.

Edit>>Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings>>(account in
question)>>Composition & Addressing

Check the box for Compose messages in HTML format.

Lee

That took care of problem #1. thx.


More detail on problem 2:
It occurs when docx documents are attached.


I can't help you with that. I had one colleague who tried to post docx
files, and got shot down by the majority who did not have the latest
Word, so now he saves them in doc format.


There's an easy fix for that. MS has a converter that can be installed
in Office 2003 and older that will make docx and other 2007 files
readable. Anyone who wants to keep the older Office products but read
the newer files can install it once and they're good to go.




Of course, if you're reading 2007 files through the converter you may be
vulnerable to exploits that affect them, so you have to patch your
converter. So once you've installed the compatibility pack, I recommend
running Microsoft Update (or Office Update, if you prefer) to detect and
install any required patches.



Then again, the latest OpenOffice (NeoOffice) versions open docx files 
with no real problem, though it may not look exactly the same as in Word.


Then again, I am dealing with a body of people who need help opening 
their email.  Downloading a converter and installing won't happen any 
sooner then installing OO.o, basically never.


Easier to teach newer Office users, who are usually the more adept 
users, to save in doc format, rather then docx.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 lost my profile

[Leonidas Jones]

Sarah Austin wrote:

Sarah Austin   wrote :


I just downloaded&  installed Seamonkey 2.0 and my current profile
from 1.8.1.1 ( I think was the latest I had installed ) is missing,
doesnt even show up as an option I can switch to anymore. How can I
get that back, please?




Correction, I had 1.1.18 installed and just installed 2.0.

I found out what appears to have happened.

It looks like it installed 2.0 separately on my computer, so I can run
2.0 and not find my old profile, or I can still run 1.1.18 using a
different start icon.

This is weird.

And with 1.1.18 I have just the browser installed, but 2.0 seems to have
gone and installed everything, which I didn't want.

Can I delete this 2.0 install and go get JUST the browser for 2.0 and
install it instead of 1.1.18 and use my existing profile?



Okay, SeaMonkey 2.0 looks for its profile in a completely different 
location then SM 1.1.18. What is supposed to happen is that when you run 
SM 2.0 for the first time, you get a migration wizard, that copies your 
profile data from the 1.1.18 location, and uses it to create a new 
profile in the 2.0 location.


Did you get such a wizard? When you open 2.0, does it open with your old 
bookmarks, for example?


The SeaMonkey 2.0 Profile Manager will not show profiles in the 1.1.18 
location.  However, that profile was not removed.  If you still have 
1.1.18 installed, it will still open with the old profile, as you have seen.


Sm 2.0 has no option to install just the browser.  That was a holdover 
from the old Mozilla suite. The assumption now is that if you download a 
suite, you want a suite, not just a browser.  If you want just a 
browser, why not use Firefox?  However, there are workarounds that will 
allow you to use just the browser, and ignore Mail/News, though it will 
still be installed.


The answer to your last question then, is no.  Sm 2.0 will install the 
entire suite.  You get Browser, Mail/News/Composer/IRC Chat, whether you 
want them or not.  The theory is, if you just want the Browser, get 
Firefox. It will migrate the profile to the new location and use that. 
SM 2.0 is a very different and improved product, there is a lot in your 
old profile that will simply mean nothing to the new application.


Take a good look at the release notes:

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0/

To use another mail client with SM 2.0, try the following:

Type about:config in the browser's Location Bar.

Click through the "warranty" warning

Right-click in the grid and choose New >> Boolean.

Type network.protocol-handler.external.mailto for the name and true for 
the value.


That should allow SM to use your default email client.

I hope all of this works for you.  For my own knowledge, why is it that 
you would install just the Browser?  On the face of it, it seems like 
ordering a BLT without the lettuce and Tomato.  ;)  Here, installing the 
suite, but hold the suite part?


Why not just install Firefox? I am sure you have your reasons, but if 
you can tell me, it will enable me to help others in the same situation.


Lee



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Re: SEAMONKEY 2.0 QUICK LAUNCH ICON SHORTCUT GONE

[James]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

James wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

James wrote:




>
In-reply-to:






Learn how to use the news.mozilla.org nntp server to read/respond on
this newsgroup instead of using a listsrerv instead. Let me know and
I'll be happy to help guide you through the process.


.
.
First of all you may have already seen my post where I stated that I
had
the wrong name for the item. It's not actually "quick launch"; it's a
bar at the bottom of the page just to the right of the start button.
Sorry for the confusion. Maybe it's called "quick start" bar???
Anyway,
I place shortcuts there to all of my frequently used programs and
start
those programs by clicking the short cut icon. The icon for SM 2.0
disappeared after a few days and I wondered why.

So when you sent the page I looked for something referring
specifically
to my problem and did not find one [because I named it wrong]. That's
why I did not understand what part of the link was supposed to be
relevant [I already knew the "quick launch" feature was gone].

Next: How I reply. I highlight the message to which I wish to reply
and
hit "reply". That copies the message into composer; however the
subject
refers to the digest rather than the specific message so I copy the
subject into the subject line. Is that causing a problem?

As for your last paragraph unfortunately I don't know what you're
talking about. "Nntp server" and "listserv" don't mean anything to me.

Thanks for the assistance,
James


.
.
Lee sent me a post explaining much of the procedure to use another
method to reply and I'm trying that. However, right now I'm getting
pop-up boxes with messages that Seamonkey cannot copy the message to
"sent" [even before I send it] and in addition that it cannot save the
message to drafts. This happens every few seconds.

If this is a better way to reply can you tell me how to get rid of the
pop-up error messages? I also get a message that my post could not be
copied to the sent folder after I do actually send it.

Thanks,
James



Ah, this one threaded too, so we are on the right track.

I'm not sure why you are having a problem with sent and drafts. Click
Edit>>Mail& Newsgroup Account Settings.

Select your news.mozilla.org account on the left, then Copies and
Folders.

It would seem that SeaMonkey is having a problem finding the folder in
which to save copies of sent messages and drafts. The default location
should be "Sent" Folder on Local Folders, and "Drafts" Folder on Local
Folders. See what these settings are on your machine. Also, make sure
that the Local Folders account shows up in the Folder Pane.

I really don't know why you should be getting a Sent warning before you
have actually sent. Maybe someone else can chime in.

As far as Drafts, check in Edit>>Preference>>Mail &
Newsgroups>>Composition

There is a setting for Automatically save the message every _ minutes.
The default is 5 minutes. If it is set that way, try unchecking the box
and see if the warnings go away. Report back and we will see if we can
get it working properly.

Lee



.
.
I think/hope I have the "copy to folder" problem solved because for some
reason it was set to save to "mailxxx" or something like that; which
AFAIK does not exist. I don't save to "local folders" but rather to
another folder there; and I changed to that. Since I have almost 4 lines
typed without a pop-up "cannot save..." message it must be solved. Many
thanks.

One difference I have is that I save drafts every minute because it's a
real PITA to type up a complex 5 minute reply and have it evaporate
because the cat stepped on the keyboard! [ggg]

Re: The problem with new topics on my old replies [or new thread, or
whatever it was] can you [or anyone else] please explain to me why a new
thread was created when I specifically used "reply" instead of "create
new topic/thread"? My posts looked pretty much the same as everyone
else's but apparently were driving a number of people bananas. If I was
doing something that created the problem I'd like to know how to correct
it so I don't do it in the future. Of course it appears that I can reply
here without causing the problem for everyone [fingers still crossed!
{ggg}] but I'd like to know the correct way to use the other format [if
such exists]. And if it does not exist then why is it even provided?

I guess this really should be another thread, but with the problems I've
caused with my copious thread creating I'm a bit gun shy...

Thanks,
James


Great, I am glad the Sent thing was resolved. Saving a copy to Drafts
every minute is a little extreme. The default is five. Whena long
message is being saved, it does interrupt your ability to type for
awhile. I would suggest setting it back to five and see how it goes for
you.

Okay, as to the thread issue. Without sitting down with you at your
machine, I can't be sure. As I understand it, you were subscribed to the
mailing list mirror of the group, and had selected to receive a periodic
digest of the 

Re: Seamonkey 2.0 lost my profile

[William Morrison]

2.0 is a suite it's all or nothing but I suppose you don't have to use 
the email but there is no seperate browser that you could download. 
During the install there is an option to pick the defaults for browser, 
email and newsreader try just unchecking the email and newsreader and 
never open them. Also don't just delete any program, uninstall them 
using add/remove programs in control panel.


Sarah Austin wrote:

Sarah Austin   wrote :



I just downloaded&  installed Seamonkey 2.0 and my current profile
from 1.8.1.1 ( I think was the latest I had installed ) is missing,
doesnt even show up as an option I can switch to anymore. How can I
get that back, please?




Correction, I had 1.1.18 installed and just installed 2.0.

I found out what appears to have happened.

It looks like it installed 2.0 separately on my computer, so I can run
2.0 and not find my old profile, or I can still run 1.1.18 using a
different start icon.

This is weird.

And with 1.1.18 I have just the browser installed, but 2.0 seems to have
gone and installed everything, which I didn't want.

Can I delete this 2.0 install and go get JUST the browser for 2.0 and
install it instead of 1.1.18 and use my existing profile?

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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 lost my profile

[William Morrison]

I had the same problem and here's what I did. I went into My Computer to 
the proper directory where the profiles are stored (My computer > C 
drive > Documents and Settings > {your windows user name} > Application 
Data > Mozilla > Profiles > {named profile you use in 1.1.18} > {your 
numbered .stl  profile folder} used copy and paste to transfer contents 
of the numbered profile, the one the program was actually using even 
though it did not show up in Profile Manager, to a temp directory then 
uninstalled 1.1.18 and deleted the Mozilla.org directory as well as the 
Mozilla directory in application data. Then I reinstalled 1.1.18, after 
it installed I opened it to create a profile then I deleted the files in 
the new profile it created and copied over the files from the temp 
directory and it loaded in perfectly. Then I reinstalled 2.0 and this 
time the import wizard came up and I transferred over the profile. 
Everything seems to be working so far, keep your fingers crossed.


 what you're actually doing is replacing all the file that make up your 
new profile with the files from your old profile, you could do it 
without creating a new profile in the reinstalled 1.1.18. And if you 
want to upgrade to 2.0 I suggest you uninstall while your uninstalling 
1.1.18 and reinstall it after you fix 1.1.18 this way the profile 
transfer wizard will run properly when you install 2.0.


Hope this makes sense, if not write me back and I'll reword it a little 
clearer. Did you at one time after you had 1.1.18 installed, reinstall 
Windows over itself, that's what caused my problem. I'm assuming you are 
running Windows XP.


Sarah Austin wrote:

Sarah Austin   wrote :



I just downloaded&  installed Seamonkey 2.0 and my current profile
from 1.8.1.1 ( I think was the latest I had installed ) is missing,
doesnt even show up as an option I can switch to anymore. How can I
get that back, please?




Correction, I had 1.1.18 installed and just installed 2.0.

I found out what appears to have happened.

It looks like it installed 2.0 separately on my computer, so I can run
2.0 and not find my old profile, or I can still run 1.1.18 using a
different start icon.

This is weird.

And with 1.1.18 I have just the browser installed, but 2.0 seems to have
gone and installed everything, which I didn't want.

Can I delete this 2.0 install and go get JUST the browser for 2.0 and
install it instead of 1.1.18 and use my existing profile?

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Re: WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?

[James]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

James wrote:

Daniel wrote:

James wrote:



Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:07:50 -0800 (PST)
From: JeffM
To:support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

James wrote:

/snip/


As you can [I hope; knock on wood] I'm using the format suggested by Lee
and he tells me it is now threading correctly. I just hope it keeps up.
I'm hitting "reply" here just like I did there.

Thanks,
James


Looking good so far James. Are you still having the problems with the
Sent and Drafts issue? As you suggested, it would be a good idea to post
a new thread on that, unless it has resolved itself.

Lee


.
.
Solved per your instructions, as I've posted.  I guess our posts have 
crossed each other...


Thanks,
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Re: Am I the only one using a portal home page

[David E. Ross]

On 11/7/2009 4:24 PM, Smiles wrote:
> Good day
> 
> I volunteer as a computer instructor and have two 4 hour classes on the 
> internet and email setup and use.
> 
> I have for 10 years demonstrate and recommend having a local html 
> document as your homepage for which ever browser you you use.
> 
> I do give them a sample to start with it basically sets up a four column 
> web page to which you can populate with your daily websites you visit.
> 
> Mine has about 20 for daily visits plus 20 others I select from for 
> daily phone support with a total of about 50 which are used within the 
> week. One of them links to by bookmarks for fast launch
> 
> 
> Do any one in the group use a similar plan and document?
> 
> My boss said it of no value and is best removed, this feature does 
> double as a html coding class.
> 
> thanks to all that reply  :)

MozillaZine conducted a survey several years ago (when that site was
more actively maintained).  A large number of users use their bookmarks
file (bookmarks.html) as their home page.  that's what I do.
Functionally, that is similar to what you do.  However, the Bookmark
Manager maintains the file, thus eliminating it as a tool for learning
HTML.

-- 
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Go to Mozdev at  for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: New Seamonkey

[Leonidas Jones]

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

/snip/

Yes - that's what I did...just did it again. Looks like you're seeing
what I'm seeing. I'm trying to make all of my observations while using
the new default Theme...because it's new. I haven't installed any
add-ons or other themes.

How about the contextual menu thing? I can't right click (cntrl+click,
or two-finger tap) if I try to do it in the window title line of the
browser...it's not so bad in Mail/News because there's big open
areas to
click/tap in, but for the browser window it's a bit tight. Only a
problem with the Default Theme.



Your MacBook is newer then mine, the two finger tap doesn't work here,
but click and hold does. I went back to Sailfish's Venerable Modern, and
there is plenty of room for a right click/click and hold. I don;t really
want to shut SM down right now to switch themes, but I will check it
later in the default theme.

Aha, I just tried opening Seamonkey 2.0 on Win 2.K. (Virtualbox is a
wonderful thing!) On Windows, the default theme *has* gripppies. It
seems to be a Mac bug.

Default theme on Windows has plenty of room for right clicking.

Lee


Update, I opened SM 2.0 in the default theme on the MacBook. No
grippies, so that Mac bug is pretty clear. I did right click with no
problem above the location bar. I played with the customize settings. If
I have large icons and text, there is plenty of room to right click.
With just icons, there is a little less room. If I set small icons, its
pretty tight. That's using the Mighty Mouse. with the trackpad, I can
still do it, but its tight for a click and hold.

If you have small icons set, try large icons and see if t gives you a
bit more room.

Lee


Yeah - I get the most room set to large icons, text beneath icon. BUt
there's still a lot more room that I could register a click in that
doesn't respond.

Two finger tap to right-click rocks!



I did see that on the Windows version of the default theme, there is a 
divider that lets you see where you can click and where you can't.  On 
the Mac, it isn't so clear.


On the other hand, the default theme on the Mac looks a lot better, 
Then again, i am prejudiced.


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Re: New Seamonkey

[Leonidas Jones]

Phillip Jones wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

/snip/

One thing I miss about not being able to use the SkyPilot Theme as He
had added the grippes back with the ability to click on a center arrow
and it would completely collapes the text window so you could mark a
series of emails as read. the click again and it woul open back up to
original position. Now to do similar you grab devider pull down like a
window shade, the you have pull it back up and reset the position.

SkyPilot was a Time Saver. Click Mark you items want marked read; click
go back to original position. Now take time to Drag down, mar, take time
to drag up. if your in three pane mode the click bar is a time saver
opening and closing the side bar. but since it breaks some items. I had
to abandon it to the regular Theme. Yuck!



By the way Phillip, I installed Sky Pilot on my MacBook, first disabling 
Mr Tech.  It installs just fine, give it a shot!


http://www.projectit.com/

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Re: New Seamonkey

[Rufus]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

/snip/

Yes - that's what I did...just did it again. Looks like you're seeing
what I'm seeing. I'm trying to make all of my observations while using
the new default Theme...because it's new. I haven't installed any
add-ons or other themes.

How about the contextual menu thing? I can't right click (cntrl+click,
or two-finger tap) if I try to do it in the window title line of the
browser...it's not so bad in Mail/News because there's big open areas to
click/tap in, but for the browser window it's a bit tight. Only a
problem with the Default Theme.



Your MacBook is newer then mine, the two finger tap doesn't work here,
but click and hold does. I went back to Sailfish's Venerable Modern, and
there is plenty of room for a right click/click and hold. I don;t really
want to shut SM down right now to switch themes, but I will check it
later in the default theme.

Aha, I just tried opening Seamonkey 2.0 on Win 2.K. (Virtualbox is a
wonderful thing!) On Windows, the default theme *has* gripppies. It
seems to be a Mac bug.

Default theme on Windows has plenty of room for right clicking.

Lee


Update, I opened SM 2.0 in the default theme on the MacBook. No
grippies, so that Mac bug is pretty clear. I did right click with no
problem above the location bar. I played with the customize settings. If
I have large icons and text, there is plenty of room to right click.
With just icons, there is a little less room. If I set small icons, its
pretty tight. That's using the Mighty Mouse. with the trackpad, I can
still do it, but its tight for a click and hold.

If you have small icons set, try large icons and see if t gives you a
bit more room.

Lee


Yeah - I get the most room set to large icons, text beneath icon.  BUt 
there's still a lot more room that I could register a click in that 
doesn't respond.


Two finger tap to right-click rocks!

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Re: New Seamonkey

[Rufus]

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

/snip/


How about the contextual menu thing? I can't right click (cntrl+click,
or two-finger tap) if I try to do it in the window title line of the
browser...it's not so bad in Mail/News because there's big open areas to
click/tap in, but for the browser window it's a bit tight. Only a
problem with the Default Theme.



Your MacBook is newer then mine, the two finger tap doesn't work here,
but click and hold does. I went back to Sailfish's Venerable Modern, and
there is plenty of room for a right click/click and hold. I don;t really
want to shut SM down right now to switch themes, but I will check it
later in the default theme.

Aha, I just tried opening Seamonkey 2.0 on Win 2.K. (Virtualbox is a
wonderful thing!) On Windows, the default theme *has* gripppies. It
seems to be a Mac bug.

Default theme on Windows has plenty of room for right clicking.

Lee


That's what I was thinking...one thing I do like is that now I don't
have to shut SM down to switch themes - it will ask if I wish to switch
and relaunch, and I think will remember my last state...I'll try that
now...



YEAH!  That works...it closes Mail/News, but does bring my browser 
window back with Tabs and locations intact.  It even asks if I want to 
be notified and gives me a pref to stop the notification...very nice!


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Re: Odd SM2 problems

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Mr. Cheese wrote:

Mr. Cheese wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Mr. Cheese wrote:

- the toolbar for changing font sizes, adding emoticons, etc does not
display when composing an email. I can't find a place to change this.

- when I look at some old emails which are replies to emails the 
quoted

email shows in some odd unreadable font.

Any help would be appreciated


Fir the first, you are probably set to compose in plain text. The
formatting toolbar only appears when you are composing in html.

Edit>>Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings>>(account in
question)>>Composition & Addressing

Check the box for Compose messages in HTML format.

Lee

That took care of problem #1. thx.


More detail on problem 2:
It occurs when docx documents are attached.


I can't help you with that.  I had one colleague who tried to post docx 
files, and got shot down by the majority who did not have the latest 
Word, so now he saves them in doc format.


There's an easy fix for that. MS has a converter that can be installed 
in Office 2003 and older that will make docx and other 2007 files 
readable. Anyone who wants to keep the older Office products but read 
the newer files can install it once and they're good to go.




Of course, if you're reading 2007 files through the converter you may be 
vulnerable to exploits that affect them, so you have to patch your 
converter. So once you've installed the compatibility pack, I recommend 
running Microsoft Update (or Office Update, if you prefer) to detect and 
install any required patches.


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Re: New Seamonkey

[Leonidas Jones]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

/snip/


I miss that about the Sidebar, too. This was a default behavior - no
add-ons required - with both the Sidebar and the Mail Preview pane
for
the previous Modern themes (you had to click the handle, but that
was ok
by me) now you have to drag, and nothing is remembered. Sucks...



Okay, this is odd. Using Venerable Modern, I have grippies, and with a
click I can hide the side bar, then display it again. Just to make
sure
it is not theme related, I switched back to the default theme. The
grippies are still there, and I can still hide and display the sidebar
with one click. That does not work for you?

Lee


Nope - not for me, or the OP. I just switched Themes and checked.

When I choose the Modern theme, I have the grippies and clicking those
snaps the Sidebar open/shut. Last location is remembered. Same for all
the panes displayed in Mail/News.

When I'm in the Default Theme - no grippies, no snap. For either the
browser window or any of the panes of Mail/News - just a dot in teh
center where the grippie should be.

Did this twice (or more...) same each time.

This seems like another graphics interface thing, like my not being
able
to right-click (cntrl+click) a contextual menu if I click above the
Address bar; on the same line the window title is displayed, but not on
the title itself...



No I got it. In my haste, I switched to the SeaMonkey Modern theme, the
"other" default that comes preinstalled. That has grippies. The actual
SeaMonkey Default theme does not. Too bad, at least on a Mac, the
default theme is pretty nice. Try switching to SeaMonkey Modern and see
if the grippies appear for you.

By the way Phillip, Sky Pilot Classic installed here. Since I have Mr
Tech installed, I am not sure if that allowed the install, or if it just
goes. Try it and see.

Lee


Yes - that's what I did...just did it again. Looks like you're seeing
what I'm seeing. I'm trying to make all of my observations while using
the new default Theme...because it's new. I haven't installed any
add-ons or other themes.

How about the contextual menu thing? I can't right click (cntrl+click,
or two-finger tap) if I try to do it in the window title line of the
browser...it's not so bad in Mail/News because there's big open areas to
click/tap in, but for the browser window it's a bit tight. Only a
problem with the Default Theme.



Your MacBook is newer then mine, the two finger tap doesn't work here,
but click and hold does. I went back to Sailfish's Venerable Modern, and
there is plenty of room for a right click/click and hold. I don;t really
want to shut SM down right now to switch themes, but I will check it
later in the default theme.

Aha, I just tried opening Seamonkey 2.0 on Win 2.K. (Virtualbox is a
wonderful thing!) On Windows, the default theme *has* gripppies. It
seems to be a Mac bug.

Default theme on Windows has plenty of room for right clicking.

Lee


Update, I opened SM 2.0 in the default theme on the MacBook.  No 
grippies, so that Mac bug is pretty clear. I did right click with no 
problem above the location bar. I played with the customize settings. 
If I have large icons and text, there is plenty of room to right click. 
With just icons, there is a little less room.  If I set small icons, its 
pretty tight.  That's using the Mighty Mouse. with the trackpad, I can 
still do it, but its tight for a click and hold.


If you have small icons set, try large icons and see if t gives you a 
bit more room.


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Re: New Seamonkey

[Rufus]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

/snip/


I miss that about the Sidebar, too. This was a default behavior - no
add-ons required - with both the Sidebar and the Mail Preview pane
for
the previous Modern themes (you had to click the handle, but that
was ok
by me) now you have to drag, and nothing is remembered. Sucks...



Okay, this is odd. Using Venerable Modern, I have grippies, and with a
click I can hide the side bar, then display it again. Just to make
sure
it is not theme related, I switched back to the default theme. The
grippies are still there, and I can still hide and display the sidebar
with one click. That does not work for you?

Lee


Nope - not for me, or the OP. I just switched Themes and checked.

When I choose the Modern theme, I have the grippies and clicking those
snaps the Sidebar open/shut. Last location is remembered. Same for all
the panes displayed in Mail/News.

When I'm in the Default Theme - no grippies, no snap. For either the
browser window or any of the panes of Mail/News - just a dot in teh
center where the grippie should be.

Did this twice (or more...) same each time.

This seems like another graphics interface thing, like my not being
able
to right-click (cntrl+click) a contextual menu if I click above the
Address bar; on the same line the window title is displayed, but not on
the title itself...



No I got it. In my haste, I switched to the SeaMonkey Modern theme, the
"other" default that comes preinstalled. That has grippies. The actual
SeaMonkey Default theme does not. Too bad, at least on a Mac, the
default theme is pretty nice. Try switching to SeaMonkey Modern and see
if the grippies appear for you.

By the way Phillip, Sky Pilot Classic installed here. Since I have Mr
Tech installed, I am not sure if that allowed the install, or if it just
goes. Try it and see.

Lee


Yes - that's what I did...just did it again. Looks like you're seeing
what I'm seeing. I'm trying to make all of my observations while using
the new default Theme...because it's new. I haven't installed any
add-ons or other themes.

How about the contextual menu thing? I can't right click (cntrl+click,
or two-finger tap) if I try to do it in the window title line of the
browser...it's not so bad in Mail/News because there's big open areas to
click/tap in, but for the browser window it's a bit tight. Only a
problem with the Default Theme.



Your MacBook is newer then mine, the two finger tap doesn't work here,
but click and hold does. I went back to Sailfish's Venerable Modern, and
there is plenty of room for a right click/click and hold. I don;t really
want to shut SM down right now to switch themes, but I will check it
later in the default theme.

Aha, I just tried opening Seamonkey 2.0 on Win 2.K. (Virtualbox is a
wonderful thing!) On Windows, the default theme *has* gripppies. It
seems to be a Mac bug.

Default theme on Windows has plenty of room for right clicking.

Lee


That's what I was thinking...one thing I do like is that now I don't 
have to shut SM down to switch themes - it will ask if I wish to switch 
and relaunch, and I think will remember my last state...I'll try that now...


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Re: TEXT PARTIALLY GRAY INSTEAD OF BLACK. WAS:

[Paul B. Gallagher]

James wrote:


Hi, Paul.  Please see comments below...

 [snip]
Hi, Paul.  I told you I would let you know when I find another example 
of the apparent random application of light or dark text and here it 
is.  I'm including the entire message, which is totally light gray text 
[header and all; completely light type] in case you might pick up some 
clue as to why it should all be light.  Or not.  Here's the post:

[snip]

End of quote.  While in the digest ALL of the text above is light type 
here in my composer it's all dark type.  Why would it be all light type 
in 2.0?


In addition the next message [number 3] in the digest [which happens to 
be from me] shows exactly the same result:  All light type, including 
header in the part I wrote, while the quoted material [from NoOp] is all 
dark.  Here's the post:

[snip]

Above is the part I wrote, all in light type.  Below is the quoted part 
of the post, which is all dark type:

[snip]

End of quote.  And again the type [while all light in my browser] all 
shows up dark in composer.


Next I have messages 4, 5, 6 and 7 which all show complete dark type, 
including headers.


Message 8 is all dark type except the part past the two dashes, which is 
light.  I believe this is the way you're saying it should be.  And AFAIK 
messages 9 and 10 follow in the manner you describe.


Sorry for so much typing, and I hope some of it makes sense.


What you say is clear, but I can't explain the behavior. Sorry.

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Re: New Seamonkey

[Leonidas Jones]

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

/snip/


I miss that about the Sidebar, too. This was a default behavior - no
add-ons required - with both the Sidebar and the Mail Preview pane for
the previous Modern themes (you had to click the handle, but that
was ok
by me) now you have to drag, and nothing is remembered. Sucks...



Okay, this is odd. Using Venerable Modern, I have grippies, and with a
click I can hide the side bar, then display it again. Just to make sure
it is not theme related, I switched back to the default theme. The
grippies are still there, and I can still hide and display the sidebar
with one click. That does not work for you?

Lee


Nope - not for me, or the OP. I just switched Themes and checked.

When I choose the Modern theme, I have the grippies and clicking those
snaps the Sidebar open/shut. Last location is remembered. Same for all
the panes displayed in Mail/News.

When I'm in the Default Theme - no grippies, no snap. For either the
browser window or any of the panes of Mail/News - just a dot in teh
center where the grippie should be.

Did this twice (or more...) same each time.

This seems like another graphics interface thing, like my not being able
to right-click (cntrl+click) a contextual menu if I click above the
Address bar; on the same line the window title is displayed, but not on
the title itself...



No I got it. In my haste, I switched to the SeaMonkey Modern theme, the
"other" default that comes preinstalled. That has grippies. The actual
SeaMonkey Default theme does not. Too bad, at least on a Mac, the
default theme is pretty nice. Try switching to SeaMonkey Modern and see
if the grippies appear for you.

By the way Phillip, Sky Pilot Classic installed here. Since I have Mr
Tech installed, I am not sure if that allowed the install, or if it just
goes. Try it and see.

Lee


Yes - that's what I did...just did it again. Looks like you're seeing
what I'm seeing. I'm trying to make all of my observations while using
the new default Theme...because it's new. I haven't installed any
add-ons or other themes.

How about the contextual menu thing? I can't right click (cntrl+click,
or two-finger tap) if I try to do it in the window title line of the
browser...it's not so bad in Mail/News because there's big open areas to
click/tap in, but for the browser window it's a bit tight. Only a
problem with the Default Theme.



Your MacBook is newer then mine, the two finger tap doesn't work here, 
but click and hold does.  I went back to Sailfish's Venerable Modern, 
and there is plenty of room for a right click/click and hold.  I don;t 
really want to shut SM down right now to switch themes, but I will check 
it later in the default theme.


Aha, I just tried opening Seamonkey 2.0 on Win 2.K.  (Virtualbox is a 
wonderful thing!) On Windows, the default theme *has* gripppies.  It 
seems to be a Mac bug.


Default theme on Windows has plenty of room for right clicking.

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Re: New Seamonkey

[Rufus]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

/snip/


I miss that about the Sidebar, too. This was a default behavior - no
add-ons required - with both the Sidebar and the Mail Preview pane for
the previous Modern themes (you had to click the handle, but that
was ok
by me) now you have to drag, and nothing is remembered. Sucks...



Okay, this is odd. Using Venerable Modern, I have grippies, and with a
click I can hide the side bar, then display it again. Just to make sure
it is not theme related, I switched back to the default theme. The
grippies are still there, and I can still hide and display the sidebar
with one click. That does not work for you?

Lee


Nope - not for me, or the OP. I just switched Themes and checked.

When I choose the Modern theme, I have the grippies and clicking those
snaps the Sidebar open/shut. Last location is remembered. Same for all
the panes displayed in Mail/News.

When I'm in the Default Theme - no grippies, no snap. For either the
browser window or any of the panes of Mail/News - just a dot in teh
center where the grippie should be.

Did this twice (or more...) same each time.

This seems like another graphics interface thing, like my not being able
to right-click (cntrl+click) a contextual menu if I click above the
Address bar; on the same line the window title is displayed, but not on
the title itself...



No I got it. In my haste, I switched to the SeaMonkey Modern theme, the
"other" default that comes preinstalled. That has grippies. The actual
SeaMonkey Default theme does not. Too bad, at least on a Mac, the
default theme is pretty nice. Try switching to SeaMonkey Modern and see
if the grippies appear for you.

By the way Phillip, Sky Pilot Classic installed here. Since I have Mr
Tech installed, I am not sure if that allowed the install, or if it just
goes. Try it and see.

Lee


Yes - that's what I did...just did it again.  Looks like you're seeing 
what I'm seeing.  I'm trying to make all of my observations while using 
the new default Theme...because it's new.  I haven't installed any 
add-ons or other themes.


How about the contextual menu thing?  I can't right click (cntrl+click, 
or two-finger tap) if I try to do it in the window title line of the 
browser...it's not so bad in Mail/News because there's big open areas to 
click/tap in, but for the browser window it's a bit tight.  Only a 
problem with the Default Theme.


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Re: New Seamonkey

[Leonidas Jones]

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

/snip/


I miss that about the Sidebar, too. This was a default behavior - no
add-ons required - with both the Sidebar and the Mail Preview pane for
the previous Modern themes (you had to click the handle, but that was ok
by me) now you have to drag, and nothing is remembered. Sucks...



Okay, this is odd. Using Venerable Modern, I have grippies, and with a
click I can hide the side bar, then display it again. Just to make sure
it is not theme related, I switched back to the default theme. The
grippies are still there, and I can still hide and display the sidebar
with one click. That does not work for you?

Lee


Nope - not for me, or the OP. I just switched Themes and checked.

When I choose the Modern theme, I have the grippies and clicking those
snaps the Sidebar open/shut. Last location is remembered. Same for all
the panes displayed in Mail/News.

When I'm in the Default Theme - no grippies, no snap. For either the
browser window or any of the panes of Mail/News - just a dot in teh
center where the grippie should be.

Did this twice (or more...) same each time.

This seems like another graphics interface thing, like my not being able
to right-click (cntrl+click) a contextual menu if I click above the
Address bar; on the same line the window title is displayed, but not on
the title itself...



No I got it.  In my haste, I switched to the SeaMonkey Modern theme, the 
"other" default that comes preinstalled.  That has grippies. The actual 
SeaMonkey Default theme does not. Too bad, at least on a Mac, the 
default theme is pretty nice. Try switching to SeaMonkey Modern and see 
if the grippies appear for you.


By the way Phillip, Sky Pilot Classic installed here.  Since I have Mr 
Tech installed, I am not sure if that allowed the install, or if it just 
goes. Try it and see.


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Re: New Seamonkey

[Rufus]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

/snip/


I miss that about the Sidebar, too. This was a default behavior - no
add-ons required - with both the Sidebar and the Mail Preview pane for
the previous Modern themes (you had to click the handle, but that was ok
by me) now you have to drag, and nothing is remembered. Sucks...



Okay, this is odd. Using Venerable Modern, I have grippies, and with a
click I can hide the side bar, then display it again. Just to make sure
it is not theme related, I switched back to the default theme. The
grippies are still there, and I can still hide and display the sidebar
with one click. That does not work for you?

Lee


Nope - not for me, or the OP.  I just switched Themes and checked.

When I choose the Modern theme, I have the grippies and clicking those 
snaps the Sidebar open/shut.  Last location is remembered.  Same for all 
the panes displayed in Mail/News.


When I'm in the Default Theme - no grippies, no snap.  For either the 
browser window or any of the panes of Mail/News - just a dot in teh 
center where the grippie should be.


Did this twice (or more...) same each time.

This seems like another graphics interface thing, like my not being able 
to right-click (cntrl+click) a contextual menu if I click above the 
Address bar; on the same line the window title is displayed, but not on 
the title itself...


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Re: New Seamonkey

[Leonidas Jones]

Rufus wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

/snip/


I miss that about the Sidebar, too. This was a default behavior - no
add-ons required - with both the Sidebar and the Mail Preview pane for
the previous Modern themes (you had to click the handle, but that was ok
by me) now you have to drag, and nothing is remembered. Sucks...



Okay, this is odd.  Using Venerable Modern, I have grippies, and with a 
click I can hide the side bar, then display it again.  Just to make sure 
it is not theme related, I switched back to the default theme.  The 
grippies are still there, and I can still hide and display the sidebar 
with one click.  That does not work for you?


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Re: SM2: Opening new windows

[Leonidas Jones]

Kent Briggs wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:


What I am suggesting is that if SeaMonkey does have focus, rather
then having to click on your desktop, use CTRL+N to open a new
window.


Yes, understood. But I don't want have to pay attention to whether
SeaMonkey currently has the focus or not.



I can understand that, which is I why I posted the suggestion as a 
workaround, not a final solution.


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Re: CNET approves SeaMonkey

[User]

Might have been useful if a URL to the article was posted.


Walter wrote:

A current post on CNET gives SM as one of the best 5 applications to
install with your new Windows 7 computer.

Way to go, team.

w.

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Re: New Seamonkey

[Leonidas Jones]

Phillip Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 6/11/2009 19:38, Barbara Norvell told the
world:

I love the new Seamonkey. I have a little problem. On the front
page,
I did something that made the headings dissappear. I have the
Row of
bookmarks and the tabs, but the rest are missing.


Look at the personal toolbar (the "row of bookmarks" you mention).
Are
you seeing a small vertical rectangle on the left side? Yes? OK.

Now look right *above* the personal toolbar. Check if there is a
little
horizontal rectangle, similar to the one you found to the left
of the
personal toolbar, only horizontal instead of vertical. If there is
one,
click on it.

Those rectangles are like "toggles" to hide/unhide the toolbars.
They
have been there since the Netscape days, I think.




I don't see either of them. That is the first thing I looked for. My
mail window is fine, but I don't see the toggles on that page
either.
I assume they are there, or I wouldn't have lost the Top Bar.

Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1


Which Theme are you using? I've noted a few graphical issues with the
2.0 default theme - like some areas of the window excluding clicks -
for
ex: can't get a right-click to register above the Address bar.

Try switching to the Classic Theme and see if that presents the
"collapse" bars for you.



Just noticed the "collapse bars aren't displayed in the Default
Theme...

...another thing to try with the Default Theme - right click
(cntrl+click) the Toolbar and make sure "Navigation Toolbar" and
"Personal Toolbar" are both checked.

If you encounter the same bug I have - can't get a contextual menu if
you right-click the top of the Toolbar - try right-clicking at the
bottom of the Toolbar below the URL Address line. That should work.




Couldn't right click, cause I have a Mac, but I did a click and hold,
which I think is comparable to the right click on a pc. It works. My
navigation toolbar was not checked. Thanks

Barb
Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1



I'm an obsessive Mac user myself (I own 4 working ones, and have another
collection of defunct ones in my garage) - control+click on a Mac is
also a default equivalent for a right-click on a PC. Click and hold also
works...never tried that one before, so you taught me something! Glad
you got it solved.



Sometimes click and hold works, sometimes not. Control Click almost
always emulates a right click. Command click works for middle click
options in most cases.

Mac OSX is also enabled for three button mice as well. I love my
bluetooth Mighty Mouse. I don't know if Apple even sells the one button
mice any more, though. A lot of full time Mac users refer to right and
middle click, now, since our pointing devices now do that. Of course
laptops still need the shortcuts.

By the way barb, I assume that 1.5.1. was a typo for 1.4.11, the latest
Tiger?

Lee




Actually That's Leopard (not Snow Leopard). But the number is supposed
to be X.5.1 or 10.5.1.

However if she is indeed X.5.1 she is 5 Major revisions behind, and she
needed to Run the X.5.8 Combo Updater and spend a bunch of time updating
security fixes, and revisions in iTunes, and Quicktime, and Java and such.

Although, I don't have a machine capable of using Snow Leopard or
possibly even Leopard (only a 1.67GB Processor on my PowerBook17") I
always updated system and other components as soon as they are
available. I still do update when they add security fixes and component
updates.



No my own typo.  She originally typed 1.4.1.  I assume she meant 1.4.11, 
the last version of Tiger, though it does receive security updates.


By the way, a Powerbook with with your specs will certainly run Leopard.

Lee

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Re: New Seamonkey

[Leonidas Jones]

Phillip Jones wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 6/11/2009 19:38, Barbara Norvell told the
world:

I love the new Seamonkey. I have a little problem. On the front
page,
I did something that made the headings dissappear. I have the Row of
bookmarks and the tabs, but the rest are missing.


Look at the personal toolbar (the "row of bookmarks" you mention).
Are
you seeing a small vertical rectangle on the left side? Yes? OK.

Now look right *above* the personal toolbar. Check if there is a
little
horizontal rectangle, similar to the one you found to the left of the
personal toolbar, only horizontal instead of vertical. If there is
one,
click on it.

Those rectangles are like "toggles" to hide/unhide the toolbars. They
have been there since the Netscape days, I think.




I don't see either of them. That is the first thing I looked for. My
mail window is fine, but I don't see the toggles on that page either.
I assume they are there, or I wouldn't have lost the Top Bar.

Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1


Which Theme are you using? I've noted a few graphical issues with the
2.0 default theme - like some areas of the window excluding clicks -
for
ex: can't get a right-click to register above the Address bar.

Try switching to the Classic Theme and see if that presents the
"collapse" bars for you.



Just noticed the "collapse bars aren't displayed in the Default Theme...

...another thing to try with the Default Theme - right click
(cntrl+click) the Toolbar and make sure "Navigation Toolbar" and
"Personal Toolbar" are both checked.

If you encounter the same bug I have - can't get a contextual menu if
you right-click the top of the Toolbar - try right-clicking at the
bottom of the Toolbar below the URL Address line. That should work.




Couldn't right click, cause I have a Mac, but I did a click and hold,
which I think is comparable to the right click on a pc. It works. My
navigation toolbar was not checked. Thanks

Barb
Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1


One thing I miss about not being able to use the SkyPilot Theme as He
had added the grippes back with the ability to click on a center arrow
and it would completely collapes the text window so you could mark a
series of emails as read. the click again and it woul open back up to
original position. Now to do similar you grab devider pull down like a
window shade, the you have pull it back up and reset the position.

SkyPilot was a Time Saver. Click Mark you items want marked read; click
go back to original position. Now take time to Drag down, mar, take time
to drag up. if your in three pane mode the click bar is a time saver
opening and closing the side bar. but since it breaks some items. I had
to abandon it to the regular Theme. Yuck!



Hm.  I'm using Sailfishes Venerale Modern theme in SM 2.0, working fine.

Take a look here:

http://www.projectit.com/

Try installing Sky Pilot Classic, it should work.

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[Leonidas Jones]

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

/snip/


Middle Click opens new tabs from links in the browser, keeping the
orignal page in a tab, it opens links in Mail/News, keeping focus to
Mail/News. Left click always brings the browser to focus, which I
usually don't want.

Without middle click I would feel hamstrung, but I guess its all in
what you are used to.

Lee


I just set my default prefs to open links meant for a new window into a
Tab in my browser, and that's probably why I miss it in a Pref panel for
Mail/News. I'd like to see a default pref to open messages in a new Tab
instead of a new window for Mail/News, and I guess that's in the works.

I can right click and select from the context menu to bring up a new Tab
for a link, so I've never seen a reason or need for a middle. But yeah,
I guess it's what you're used to.



Thing is, I can get any link to open in a new tab with one middle
click, whether it is targeted for a new window or not. It is a little
faster then right click and select new tab, though if I were used to
doing it that way, I wouldn't think twice about it.

Lee


It's probably given the amount of time I spend on a laptop - I try to
set up all my machines (Mac and PCs at work) to function as nearly the
same as I can, so middle clicking is just an annoyance for me -
particularly if I'm using a trackpad.

I have yet to navigate to a site with links I'd want to open in a new
Tab without my taking direct action, so the pref works the way I do.
Particularly given that History doesn't track across Tabs once you close
them...the way I work sort of helps me manage the availability of
History for my Back button.

...but that probably still speaks to laptop workflow, when I think about
it.



Then again,I have a bluetooth Mighty Mouse for my MacBook Pro too.  I 
don't even need to plug it in, boot up and its there!


I use the MacBook probably more then the iMac, but I am just so darn 
used to the mouse.


MacBook has a nice trackpad though.

It occurs to me that we are well off topic, perhaps we could continue 
this in general if desired.


followup set to mozilla.general

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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 lost my profile

[Sarah Austin]

Sarah Austin   wrote :

> I just downloaded & installed Seamonkey 2.0 and my current profile
> from 1.8.1.1 ( I think was the latest I had installed ) is missing,
> doesnt even show up as an option I can switch to anymore. How can I
> get that back, please?
> 
> 

Correction, I had 1.1.18 installed and just installed 2.0.

I found out what appears to have happened.

It looks like it installed 2.0 separately on my computer, so I can run 
2.0 and not find my old profile, or I can still run 1.1.18 using a 
different start icon.

This is weird.

And with 1.1.18 I have just the browser installed, but 2.0 seems to have 
gone and installed everything, which I didn't want.

Can I delete this 2.0 install and go get JUST the browser for 2.0 and 
install it instead of 1.1.18 and use my existing profile?

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Re: SEAMONKEY 2.0 QUICK LAUNCH ICON SHORTCUT GONE

[Leonidas Jones]

James wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

James wrote:




>
In-reply-to:





Learn how to use the news.mozilla.org nntp server to read/respond on
this newsgroup instead of using a listsrerv instead. Let me know and
I'll be happy to help guide you through the process.


.
.
First of all you may have already seen my post where I stated that I
had
the wrong name for the item. It's not actually "quick launch"; it's a
bar at the bottom of the page just to the right of the start button.
Sorry for the confusion. Maybe it's called "quick start" bar??? Anyway,
I place shortcuts there to all of my frequently used programs and start
those programs by clicking the short cut icon. The icon for SM 2.0
disappeared after a few days and I wondered why.

So when you sent the page I looked for something referring specifically
to my problem and did not find one [because I named it wrong]. That's
why I did not understand what part of the link was supposed to be
relevant [I already knew the "quick launch" feature was gone].

Next: How I reply. I highlight the message to which I wish to reply and
hit "reply". That copies the message into composer; however the subject
refers to the digest rather than the specific message so I copy the
subject into the subject line. Is that causing a problem?

As for your last paragraph unfortunately I don't know what you're
talking about. "Nntp server" and "listserv" don't mean anything to me.

Thanks for the assistance,
James


.
.
Lee sent me a post explaining much of the procedure to use another
method to reply and I'm trying that. However, right now I'm getting
pop-up boxes with messages that Seamonkey cannot copy the message to
"sent" [even before I send it] and in addition that it cannot save the
message to drafts. This happens every few seconds.

If this is a better way to reply can you tell me how to get rid of the
pop-up error messages? I also get a message that my post could not be
copied to the sent folder after I do actually send it.

Thanks,
James



Ah, this one threaded too, so we are on the right track.

I'm not sure why you are having a problem with sent and drafts. Click
Edit>>Mail& Newsgroup Account Settings.

Select your news.mozilla.org account on the left, then Copies and
Folders.

It would seem that SeaMonkey is having a problem finding the folder in
which to save copies of sent messages and drafts. The default location
should be "Sent" Folder on Local Folders, and "Drafts" Folder on Local
Folders. See what these settings are on your machine. Also, make sure
that the Local Folders account shows up in the Folder Pane.

I really don't know why you should be getting a Sent warning before you
have actually sent. Maybe someone else can chime in.

As far as Drafts, check in Edit>>Preference>>Mail &
Newsgroups>>Composition

There is a setting for Automatically save the message every _ minutes.
The default is 5 minutes. If it is set that way, try unchecking the box
and see if the warnings go away. Report back and we will see if we can
get it working properly.

Lee



.
.
I think/hope I have the "copy to folder" problem solved because for some
reason it was set to save to "mailxxx" or something like that; which
AFAIK does not exist. I don't save to "local folders" but rather to
another folder there; and I changed to that. Since I have almost 4 lines
typed without a pop-up "cannot save..." message it must be solved. Many
thanks.

One difference I have is that I save drafts every minute because it's a
real PITA to type up a complex 5 minute reply and have it evaporate
because the cat stepped on the keyboard! [ggg]

Re: The problem with new topics on my old replies [or new thread, or
whatever it was] can you [or anyone else] please explain to me why a new
thread was created when I specifically used "reply" instead of "create
new topic/thread"? My posts looked pretty much the same as everyone
else's but apparently were driving a number of people bananas. If I was
doing something that created the problem I'd like to know how to correct
it so I don't do it in the future. Of course it appears that I can reply
here without causing the problem for everyone [fingers still crossed!
{ggg}] but I'd like to know the correct way to use the other format [if
such exists]. And if it does not exist then why is it even provided?

I guess this really should be another thread, but with the problems I've
caused with my copious thread creating I'm a bit gun shy...

Thanks,
James


Great, I am glad the Sent thing was resolved.  Saving a copy to Drafts 
every minute is a little extreme.  The default is five.  Whena long 
message is being saved, it does interrupt your ability to type for 
awhile.  I would suggest setting it back to five and see how it goes for 
you.


Okay, as to the thread issue.  Without sitting downwth you at your 
machine, I can't be sure. As I understand it, you were subscribed to the 
mailing list mirror of the group, and had selected to receive a periodic 
digest of the posts, rather

Re: New Seamonkey

[Rufus]

Phillip Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:


Being able to "alternate click" or "right-click" using a geture on the
new trackpads ont MacBook rocks! I'm one of the many that are drooling
for Apple to produce a wireless keyboard that incorporates the MacBook
trackpad - I hate mice in general, no matter whose they are. Gimme a
trackball!

...and I'm still looking for a reason to use a "middle click" for
anything. Haven't found one as of yet - left or right, yeah...middle?
Not so much...not for me anyway...



I've tried trackballs and never could get them to work for me, made my
hand cramp up. I prefer a mouse and have gotten use to track-pad on my
PowerBook. This is not say Trackballs are good or bad. Mice are neither
good or bad as well, or trackpads.



I'm just the opposite - a mouse makes my hand cramp really bad, and I 
also hate having to paw the desk, and leave/make more room to do so. 
Once I made the conversion from using a mouse I became hooked for life.


I have a trick I use for setting up a trackball or a trackpad - I always 
set the device up so I can cross the screen diagonally from corner to 
corner in a single swipe.


That way, no matter what size screen I'm working on or which device, the 
hand movement required is very similar if not nearly identical.  I can 
move from machine to machine and control any one comfortably and uniformly.


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Re: WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?

[Leonidas Jones]

James wrote:

Daniel wrote:

James wrote:



Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:07:50 -0800 (PST)
From: JeffM
To:support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

James wrote:

/snip/


As you can [I hope; knock on wood] I'm using the format suggested by Lee
and he tells me it is now threading correctly. I just hope it keeps up.
I'm hitting "reply" here just like I did there.

Thanks,
James


Looking good so far James.  Are you still having the problems with the 
Sent and Drafts issue?  As you suggested, it would be a good idea to 
post a new thread on that, unless it has resolved itself.


Lee
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Seamonkey 2.0 lost my profile

[Sarah Austin]

I just downloaded & installed Seamonkey 2.0 and my current profile from 
1.8.1.1 ( I think was the latest I had installed ) is missing, doesnt even 
show up as an option I can switch to anymore. How can I get that back, 
please?

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Re: SM2 Slow Newsgroup Reader

[NoOp]

On 11/07/2009 01:25 PM, Kent Briggs wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
> 
>> Well why don't you give it a try _first_&  let us know the result.
>> You can always set it back to 'true' if it doesn't work out.
> 
> I made that comment after trying it. I already switched it back. Having 
> to click on every single group and waiting for it to return takes longer 
> than the original problem. The delay just gets divided into smaller 
> pieces and requires all those extra clicks. It's no solution at all.
> 

OK, what happens if you use news.update_unread_on_expand;false *and*
adjust the Server Settings|Server Settings. Say to 'Check for new
messages at startup' and 'Check for new messages ever 10 minutes'?


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Am I the only one using a portal home page

[Smiles]

Good day

I volunteer as a computer instructor and have two 4 hour classes on the 
internet and email setup and use.


I have for 10 years demonstrate and recommend having a local html 
document as your homepage for which ever browser you you use.


I do give them a sample to start with it basically sets up a four column 
web page to which you can populate with your daily websites you visit.


Mine has about 20 for daily visits plus 20 others I select from for 
daily phone support with a total of about 50 which are used within the 
week. One of them links to by bookmarks for fast launch



Do any one in the group use a similar plan and document?

My boss said it of no value and is best removed, this feature does 
double as a html coding class.


thanks to all that reply  :)
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Re: New Seamonkey

[Phillip Jones]

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 6/11/2009 19:38, Barbara Norvell told the
world:

I love the new Seamonkey. I have a little problem. On the front
page,
I did something that made the headings dissappear. I have the
Row of
bookmarks and the tabs, but the rest are missing.


Look at the personal toolbar (the "row of bookmarks" you mention).
Are
you seeing a small vertical rectangle on the left side? Yes? OK.

Now look right *above* the personal toolbar. Check if there is a
little
horizontal rectangle, similar to the one you found to the left of
the
personal toolbar, only horizontal instead of vertical. If there is
one,
click on it.

Those rectangles are like "toggles" to hide/unhide the toolbars.
They
have been there since the Netscape days, I think.




I don't see either of them. That is the first thing I looked for. My
mail window is fine, but I don't see the toggles on that page either.
I assume they are there, or I wouldn't have lost the Top Bar.

Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1


Which Theme are you using? I've noted a few graphical issues with the
2.0 default theme - like some areas of the window excluding clicks -
for
ex: can't get a right-click to register above the Address bar.

Try switching to the Classic Theme and see if that presents the
"collapse" bars for you.



Just noticed the "collapse bars aren't displayed in the Default
Theme...

...another thing to try with the Default Theme - right click
(cntrl+click) the Toolbar and make sure "Navigation Toolbar" and
"Personal Toolbar" are both checked.

If you encounter the same bug I have - can't get a contextual menu if
you right-click the top of the Toolbar - try right-clicking at the
bottom of the Toolbar below the URL Address line. That should work.




Couldn't right click, cause I have a Mac, but I did a click and hold,
which I think is comparable to the right click on a pc. It works. My
navigation toolbar was not checked. Thanks

Barb
Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1



I'm an obsessive Mac user myself (I own 4 working ones, and have another
collection of defunct ones in my garage) - control+click on a Mac is
also a default equivalent for a right-click on a PC. Click and hold also
works...never tried that one before, so you taught me something! Glad
you got it solved.



Sometimes click and hold works, sometimes not.  Control Click almost
always emulates a right click.  Command click works for middle click
options in most cases.

Mac OSX is also enabled for three button mice as well.  I love my
bluetooth Mighty Mouse.  I don't know if Apple even sells the one button
mice any more, though.  A lot of full time Mac users refer to right and
middle click, now, since our pointing devices now do that. Of course
laptops still need the shortcuts.

By the way barb, I assume that 1.5.1. was a typo for 1.4.11, the latest
Tiger?

Lee





Being able to "alternate click" or "right-click" using a geture on the
new trackpads ont MacBook rocks!  I'm one of the many that are drooling
for Apple to produce a wireless keyboard that incorporates the MacBook
trackpad - I hate mice in general, no matter whose they are.  Gimme a
trackball!

...and I'm still looking for a reason to use a "middle click" for
anything.  Haven't found one as of yet - left or right, yeah...middle?
Not so much...not for me anyway...



I've tried trackballs and never could get them to work for me, made my 
hand cramp up. I prefer a mouse and have gotten use to track-pad on my 
PowerBook. This is not say Trackballs are good or bad. Mice are neither 
good or bad as well, or trackpads.


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Re: New Seamonkey

[Rufus]

Phillip Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 6/11/2009 19:38, Barbara Norvell told the
world:

I love the new Seamonkey. I have a little problem. On the front
page,
I did something that made the headings dissappear. I have the 
Row of

bookmarks and the tabs, but the rest are missing.


Look at the personal toolbar (the "row of bookmarks" you mention).
Are
you seeing a small vertical rectangle on the left side? Yes? OK.

Now look right *above* the personal toolbar. Check if there is a
little
horizontal rectangle, similar to the one you found to the left 
of the

personal toolbar, only horizontal instead of vertical. If there is
one,
click on it.

Those rectangles are like "toggles" to hide/unhide the toolbars. 
They

have been there since the Netscape days, I think.




I don't see either of them. That is the first thing I looked for. My
mail window is fine, but I don't see the toggles on that page 
either.

I assume they are there, or I wouldn't have lost the Top Bar.

Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1


Which Theme are you using? I've noted a few graphical issues with the
2.0 default theme - like some areas of the window excluding clicks -
for
ex: can't get a right-click to register above the Address bar.

Try switching to the Classic Theme and see if that presents the
"collapse" bars for you.



Just noticed the "collapse bars aren't displayed in the Default 
Theme...


...another thing to try with the Default Theme - right click
(cntrl+click) the Toolbar and make sure "Navigation Toolbar" and
"Personal Toolbar" are both checked.

If you encounter the same bug I have - can't get a contextual menu if
you right-click the top of the Toolbar - try right-clicking at the
bottom of the Toolbar below the URL Address line. That should work.




Couldn't right click, cause I have a Mac, but I did a click and hold,
which I think is comparable to the right click on a pc. It works. My
navigation toolbar was not checked. Thanks

Barb
Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1



I'm an obsessive Mac user myself (I own 4 working ones, and have another
collection of defunct ones in my garage) - control+click on a Mac is
also a default equivalent for a right-click on a PC. Click and hold also
works...never tried that one before, so you taught me something! Glad
you got it solved.



Sometimes click and hold works, sometimes not.  Control Click almost
always emulates a right click.  Command click works for middle click
options in most cases.

Mac OSX is also enabled for three button mice as well.  I love my
bluetooth Mighty Mouse.  I don't know if Apple even sells the one button
mice any more, though.  A lot of full time Mac users refer to right and
middle click, now, since our pointing devices now do that. Of course
laptops still need the shortcuts.

By the way barb, I assume that 1.5.1. was a typo for 1.4.11, the latest
Tiger?

Lee



Actually That's Leopard (not Snow Leopard). But the number is supposed 
to be X.5.1 or 10.5.1.


However if she is indeed X.5.1 she is 5 Major revisions behind, and she 
needed to Run the X.5.8 Combo Updater and spend a bunch of time updating 
security fixes, and revisions in iTunes, and Quicktime, and Java and such.


Although, I don't have a machine capable of using Snow Leopard or 
possibly even Leopard (only a 1.67GB Processor on my PowerBook17") I 
always updated system and other components as soon as they are 
available. I still do update when they add security fixes and component 
updates.




...you could probably run Leopard, I think...though you'd give up 
Classic.  Had I realized that I would never have upgraded my G5 iMac.


One of these days I'll get around to partitioning and making it dual 
boot, at least.


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Re: New Seamonkey

[Phillip Jones]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 6/11/2009 19:38, Barbara Norvell told the
world:

I love the new Seamonkey. I have a little problem. On the front
page,
I did something that made the headings dissappear. I have the Row of
bookmarks and the tabs, but the rest are missing.


Look at the personal toolbar (the "row of bookmarks" you mention).
Are
you seeing a small vertical rectangle on the left side? Yes? OK.

Now look right *above* the personal toolbar. Check if there is a
little
horizontal rectangle, similar to the one you found to the left of the
personal toolbar, only horizontal instead of vertical. If there is
one,
click on it.

Those rectangles are like "toggles" to hide/unhide the toolbars. They
have been there since the Netscape days, I think.




I don't see either of them. That is the first thing I looked for. My
mail window is fine, but I don't see the toggles on that page either.
I assume they are there, or I wouldn't have lost the Top Bar.

Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1


Which Theme are you using? I've noted a few graphical issues with the
2.0 default theme - like some areas of the window excluding clicks -
for
ex: can't get a right-click to register above the Address bar.

Try switching to the Classic Theme and see if that presents the
"collapse" bars for you.



Just noticed the "collapse bars aren't displayed in the Default Theme...

...another thing to try with the Default Theme - right click
(cntrl+click) the Toolbar and make sure "Navigation Toolbar" and
"Personal Toolbar" are both checked.

If you encounter the same bug I have - can't get a contextual menu if
you right-click the top of the Toolbar - try right-clicking at the
bottom of the Toolbar below the URL Address line. That should work.




Couldn't right click, cause I have a Mac, but I did a click and hold,
which I think is comparable to the right click on a pc. It works. My
navigation toolbar was not checked. Thanks

Barb
Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1



I'm an obsessive Mac user myself (I own 4 working ones, and have another
collection of defunct ones in my garage) - control+click on a Mac is
also a default equivalent for a right-click on a PC. Click and hold also
works...never tried that one before, so you taught me something! Glad
you got it solved.



Sometimes click and hold works, sometimes not.  Control Click almost
always emulates a right click.  Command click works for middle click
options in most cases.

Mac OSX is also enabled for three button mice as well.  I love my
bluetooth Mighty Mouse.  I don't know if Apple even sells the one button
mice any more, though.  A lot of full time Mac users refer to right and
middle click, now, since our pointing devices now do that. Of course
laptops still need the shortcuts.

By the way barb, I assume that 1.5.1. was a typo for 1.4.11, the latest
Tiger?

Lee



Actually That's Leopard (not Snow Leopard). But the number is supposed 
to be X.5.1 or 10.5.1.


However if she is indeed X.5.1 she is 5 Major revisions behind, and she 
needed to Run the X.5.8 Combo Updater and spend a bunch of time updating 
security fixes, and revisions in iTunes, and Quicktime, and Java and such.


Although, I don't have a machine capable of using Snow Leopard or 
possibly even Leopard (only a 1.67GB Processor on my PowerBook17") I 
always updated system and other components as soon as they are 
available. I still do update when they add security fixes and component 
updates.


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Re: New Seamonkey

[Rufus]

Phillip Jones wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 6/11/2009 19:38, Barbara Norvell told the 
world:
I love the new Seamonkey. I have a little problem. On the front 
page,

I did something that made the headings dissappear. I have the Row of
bookmarks and the tabs, but the rest are missing.


Look at the personal toolbar (the "row of bookmarks" you mention). 
Are

you seeing a small vertical rectangle on the left side? Yes? OK.

Now look right *above* the personal toolbar. Check if there is a 
little

horizontal rectangle, similar to the one you found to the left of the
personal toolbar, only horizontal instead of vertical. If there is 
one,

click on it.

Those rectangles are like "toggles" to hide/unhide the toolbars. They
have been there since the Netscape days, I think.




I don't see either of them. That is the first thing I looked for. My
mail window is fine, but I don't see the toggles on that page either.
I assume they are there, or I wouldn't have lost the Top Bar.

Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1


Which Theme are you using? I've noted a few graphical issues with the
2.0 default theme - like some areas of the window excluding clicks - 
for

ex: can't get a right-click to register above the Address bar.

Try switching to the Classic Theme and see if that presents the
"collapse" bars for you.



Just noticed the "collapse bars aren't displayed in the Default Theme...

...another thing to try with the Default Theme - right click
(cntrl+click) the Toolbar and make sure "Navigation Toolbar" and
"Personal Toolbar" are both checked.

If you encounter the same bug I have - can't get a contextual menu if
you right-click the top of the Toolbar - try right-clicking at the
bottom of the Toolbar below the URL Address line. That should work.




Couldn't right click, cause I have a Mac, but I did a click and hold,
which I think is comparable to the right click on a pc.  It works.  My
navigation toolbar was not checked.  Thanks

Barb
Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1

One thing I miss about not being able to use the SkyPilot Theme as He 
had added the grippes back  with the ability to click on a center arrow 
and it would completely collapes the text window so you could mark a 
series of emails as read. the click again and it woul open back up to 
original position. Now to do similar you grab devider pull down like a 
window shade, the you have pull it back up and reset the position.


SkyPilot was a Time Saver. Click Mark you items want marked read; click 
go back to original position. Now take time to Drag down, mar, take time 
to drag up. if your in three pane mode the click bar is a time saver 
opening and closing the side bar. but since it breaks some items. I had 
to abandon it to the regular Theme. Yuck!




I miss that about the Sidebar, too.  This was a default behavior - no 
add-ons required - with both the Sidebar and the Mail Preview pane for 
the previous Modern themes (you had to click the handle, but that was ok 
by me) now you have to drag, and nothing is remembered.  Sucks...


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Re: WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?

[James]

Daniel wrote:

James wrote:



Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:07:50 -0800 (PST)
From: JeffM
To:support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

James wrote:

>Which means utterly nothing to me. Once more, in English please? [ggg]

1) DON"T start a new thread each time you post.

2) DON'T use your Caps Lock key for Subject lines.


.
.
Thanks for your kind and generous advice.

James


and again, James, you have started an entirely new thread.

You haven't got a clue, have you??

Daniel


.
.
Well, it's true I haven't a clue as to why a new thread or topic [or 
whatever it is] gets created when I specifically ALWAYS click "reply" 
and DO NOT choose "create new thread/topic".  It should be rather 
obvious that I'm not one of the "experts" here.


Now, since you apparently ARE one of the experts here why don't you 
invest a few lines of type to clue me in as to how I can prevent the 
same thing happen in the future and inadvertently driving a number of 
people nuts?  I'd like to be able to use the other [my original] format 
if it's possible to do so without screwing up the list for everyone else.


As you can [I hope; knock on wood] I'm using the format suggested by Lee 
and he tells me it is now threading correctly.  I just hope it keeps up. 
 I'm hitting "reply" here just like I did there.


Thanks,
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Re: New Seamonkey

[Phillip Jones]

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 6/11/2009 19:38, Barbara Norvell told the world:

I love the new Seamonkey. I have a little problem. On the front page,
I did something that made the headings dissappear. I have the Row of
bookmarks and the tabs, but the rest are missing.


Look at the personal toolbar (the "row of bookmarks" you mention). Are
you seeing a small vertical rectangle on the left side? Yes? OK.

Now look right *above* the personal toolbar. Check if there is a little
horizontal rectangle, similar to the one you found to the left of the
personal toolbar, only horizontal instead of vertical. If there is one,
click on it.

Those rectangles are like "toggles" to hide/unhide the toolbars. They
have been there since the Netscape days, I think.




I don't see either of them. That is the first thing I looked for. My
mail window is fine, but I don't see the toggles on that page either.
I assume they are there, or I wouldn't have lost the Top Bar.

Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1


Which Theme are you using? I've noted a few graphical issues with the
2.0 default theme - like some areas of the window excluding clicks - for
ex: can't get a right-click to register above the Address bar.

Try switching to the Classic Theme and see if that presents the
"collapse" bars for you.



Just noticed the "collapse bars aren't displayed in the Default Theme...

...another thing to try with the Default Theme - right click
(cntrl+click) the Toolbar and make sure "Navigation Toolbar" and
"Personal Toolbar" are both checked.

If you encounter the same bug I have - can't get a contextual menu if
you right-click the top of the Toolbar - try right-clicking at the
bottom of the Toolbar below the URL Address line. That should work.




Couldn't right click, cause I have a Mac, but I did a click and hold,
which I think is comparable to the right click on a pc.  It works.  My
navigation toolbar was not checked.  Thanks

Barb
Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1

One thing I miss about not being able to use the SkyPilot Theme as He 
had added the grippes back  with the ability to click on a center arrow 
and it would completely collapes the text window so you could mark a 
series of emails as read. the click again and it woul open back up to 
original position. Now to do similar you grab devider pull down like a 
window shade, the you have pull it back up and reset the position.


SkyPilot was a Time Saver. Click Mark you items want marked read; click 
go back to original position. Now take time to Drag down, mar, take time 
to drag up. if your in three pane mode the click bar is a time saver 
opening and closing the side bar. but since it breaks some items. I had 
to abandon it to the regular Theme. Yuck!


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Re: SEAMONKEY 2.0 QUICK LAUNCH ICON SHORTCUT GONE

[James]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

James wrote:




>
In-reply-to:




Learn how to use the news.mozilla.org nntp server to read/respond on
this newsgroup instead of using a listsrerv instead. Let me know and
I'll be happy to help guide you through the process.


.
.
First of all you may have already seen my post where I stated that I had
the wrong name for the item. It's not actually "quick launch"; it's a
bar at the bottom of the page just to the right of the start button.
Sorry for the confusion. Maybe it's called "quick start" bar??? Anyway,
I place shortcuts there to all of my frequently used programs and start
those programs by clicking the short cut icon. The icon for SM 2.0
disappeared after a few days and I wondered why.

So when you sent the page I looked for something referring specifically
to my problem and did not find one [because I named it wrong]. That's
why I did not understand what part of the link was supposed to be
relevant [I already knew the "quick launch" feature was gone].

Next: How I reply. I highlight the message to which I wish to reply and
hit "reply". That copies the message into composer; however the subject
refers to the digest rather than the specific message so I copy the
subject into the subject line. Is that causing a problem?

As for your last paragraph unfortunately I don't know what you're
talking about. "Nntp server" and "listserv" don't mean anything to me.

Thanks for the assistance,
James


.
.
Lee sent me a post explaining much of the procedure to use another
method to reply and I'm trying that. However, right now I'm getting
pop-up boxes with messages that Seamonkey cannot copy the message to
"sent" [even before I send it] and in addition that it cannot save the
message to drafts. This happens every few seconds.

If this is a better way to reply can you tell me how to get rid of the
pop-up error messages? I also get a message that my post could not be
copied to the sent folder after I do actually send it.

Thanks,
James



Ah, this one threaded too, so we are on the right track.

I'm not sure why you are having a problem with sent and drafts. Click
Edit>>Mail& Newsgroup Account Settings.

Select your news.mozilla.org account on the left, then Copies and Folders.

It would seem that SeaMonkey is having a problem finding the folder in
which to save copies of sent messages and drafts. The default location
should be "Sent" Folder on Local Folders, and "Drafts" Folder on Local
Folders. See what these settings are on your machine. Also, make sure
that the Local Folders account shows up in the Folder Pane.

I really don't know why you should be getting a Sent warning before you
have actually sent. Maybe someone else can chime in.

As far as Drafts, check in Edit>>Preference>>Mail & Newsgroups>>Composition

There is a setting for Automatically save the message every _ minutes.
The default is 5 minutes. If it is set that way, try unchecking the box
and see if the warnings go away. Report back and we will see if we can
get it working properly.

Lee



.
.
I think/hope I have the "copy to folder" problem solved because for some 
reason it was set to save to "mailxxx" or something like that; which 
AFAIK does not exist.  I don't save to "local folders" but rather to 
another folder there; and I changed to that.  Since I have almost 4 
lines typed without a pop-up "cannot save..." message it must be solved. 
 Many thanks.


One difference I have is that I save drafts every minute because it's a 
real PITA to type up a complex 5 minute reply and have it evaporate 
because the cat stepped on the keyboard! [ggg]


Re:  The problem with new topics on my old replies [or new thread, or 
whatever it was] can you [or anyone else] please explain to me why a new 
thread was created when I specifically used "reply" instead of "create 
new topic/thread"?  My posts looked pretty much the same as everyone 
else's but apparently were driving a number of people bananas.  If I was 
doing something that created the problem I'd like to know how to correct 
it so I don't do it in the future.  Of course it appears that I can 
reply here without causing the problem for everyone [fingers still 
crossed! {ggg}] but I'd like to know the correct way to use the other 
format [if such exists].  And if it does not exist then why is it even 
provided?


I guess this really should be another thread, but with the problems I've 
caused with my copious thread creating I'm a bit gun shy...


Thanks,
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Re: Graphical email not completely loading in

[Phillip Jones]

Martin Freitag wrote:

Rufus schrieb:

William Morrison wrote:

I noticed a problem of email containing a lot of graphics not loading
in completely on the first viewing. I get mail from a group on
multiply.com group, Kodak and Kawasaki and it seems like when I first
click on a new message instead of getting the entire graphic all I get
the layout placeholders as well as the picture place holders, if i
click on another message then go back to the new one everything is
there. I'm using the classic view for my messages and have them open
in the message pane as opposed to full window.



...and this may or may not be one example of why I'd want to retain the
OPTION to turn JavaScript on/off for Mail and News vice having someone
else decide for me...



JavaScript has nothing to do with displaying pictures...



If JavaScript is such a bane, someone explain why it is used so much 
design and operation of Web pages? And why it is so great in Web pages, 
but not email?


I want a serious answer. Not some knee jerk answer about it should never 
have been in email. I can say the same of Active-X, although Active-X is 
far more dangerous.


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CNET approves SeaMonkey

[Walter]

A current post on CNET gives SM as one of the best 5 applications to 
install with your new Windows 7 computer.


Way to go, team.

w.
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Re: Copy & Paste

[Phillip Jones]

Keith Whaley wrote:

Earl wrote:

Seamonkey v.2.0

I can copy but not paste.  For instance, I can copy a URL but unable
to paste it into a new message.  I can Copy it seems but neither right
clicking nor Ctl V will paste.  Please explain or advise how to
achieve this common task.

Thanks.

EE



Your v.2.0 may be different, but on my computer, Command-V does the pasting!

Caution: I am using SM 1.1.18 and Mac OS 10.6.1

Keith Whaley


Once I worked out some Glitches strangely caused after installing of an 
extension, which worked itself out with a second restart of SM2. 
Command-V does indeed paste. I had a problem originally with Cut, Copy, 
Paste.


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Re: Was SeaMonkey 2.0 really ready for release?

[Ray_Net]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:


Personally, I could not even imagine going back to SM 1.1.18. 2.0 is a
fine product, different to be sure, but almost universally better.


Personaly if the SM 2 Bug

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525601

is not solved SM2 is *not* better.


Have you tried shutting down "McAfee SiteAdviser Service"? From what I 
hear, it looks like that one is breaking SeaMonkey 2.0 copying to the 
clipboard.



Correct, the problem is not with SM2 - sorry for the disturbance.
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Re: Bug? search bookmarks results in SM 2.0

[Phillip Jones]

Martin Freitag wrote:

Anonymous S. schrieb:

Things not clearly, so I ask for suggestion.

1. When I try to search bookmarks, search results cover some tags that I
am browsing. Those tabs should not been filed. Why those tabs showed on
bookmarks search result? It happened on me with:
* bookmark manager's search menu
* sidebar: bookmarks search field
* sidebar: bookmarks "search..." button
Should I reset profile or reinstall application?


I'm afraid I don't get the meaning of your description. (what kind of
"tags"? what is meant by "filed"? Since whe are tabs shown in the
bookmark search at all?)
Could you try to rephrase your question please?

In general you can easily test with a new profile by creating secondary
one with the profile manager.



2. My seamonkey 2.0 is not official 32-bit build. Somebody contributed
64-bit build for ubuntu and I used that package with my workstation. Is
any one with official builds got this strange thing?



There is no official 64bit build afaik, only 32.
regards

Martin


Even though there has been a 64 bit windows for several years, and with 
the introduction of Snow Leopard for Mac its a true 64 bit OS now. It 
just a matter of the application Developers to develop a version for 64 
bit, and for Intel to catch up on Mac side, and Intel and and the other 
manufacturer for PC now can catch up on PC side with 64 bit. It will 
take a while for developers to get on board with 64bit. Although on the 
Macintosh side iCab has a 64bit version available now.


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Transferring From NS 4.5 (Win95) to SM 2.0 (XP)

[OldTimer]

I have Netscape 4.5 on an old IBM PC with Win 95 and I want to transfer 
the Mail messages, Inbox, Mail folders & the Address Book to an HP 
laptop with Win XP Home SP2 and Seamonkey 2.0 (which already has mail, 
folders and address book set up).


With help from references supplied by Martin I have completed the 
following steps:


As the old PC only has a floppy drive (A:), I have exported the address 
book (LDIF) to a floppy disc by the following steps:  Opened Netscape 
and clicked on "Address Book", selected the address book and from the 
File menu I chose "Export".  In the "Export As" window, I typed a file 
name and exported it to the floppy drive (A:).


For the mail files, I went to C:\Program Files\Netscape\Users\ and 
opened User1 & User2 folders and copied the Inbox.sbd, Inbox, Sent, 
Unsent Messages, & Draft files (not .msf) to the floppy disc.  Where 
there was any duplication of file names with those on the laptop, I 
renamed them (eg. InboxOld1, xxxOld2).


I then zipped the mail files on the floppy to a zip folder and copied it 
and the Address Book to a CD-RW disc (the laptop does not have a floppy 
drive).


I now intend to open the compressed files on the CD with the laptop and 
copy them into the equivilant folders/files in my Profiles folder 
(abook.mab, Inbox, Sent, etc.).


I hope this all makes sense as I would appreciate some feedback before I 
proceed, to assure me that I'm on the right track and have taken the 
right steps so far.


An old-timer trying to keep up.
Ed

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Bookmarks display in sidebar 2.0

[starrin]

Is there a way to change type size, and/or get rid of the 
+ marks before folders in sidebar display of bookmarks.
My Vista PC is fine in 2.0; My XP mahine has bigger type, and the +
signs in a box.  As far as I can tell, all options, settings, are
identical in both
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Re: Email client in SM 2

[NoOp]

On 11/06/2009 05:20 AM, Gisele Latour wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Is there a possibility to disable the email client in Sea Monkey 2?
> I don't use it and now my default email client can't open with mailto.
> With former versions I could choose the "Install browser only" feature,
> now it's impossible.
> 
> Any idea? Many thanks.
> 
> Gisele Latour


Please see the "Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?" thread.


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Re: Address bar domain autocompletion

[Phillip Jones]

Rex wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Rex wrote:

When typing a site name, I'm pretty accustomed to ctrl-enter for .com,
shift-enter for .net and ctrl-shift-enter for .org domain name
completion in Firefox/IE (not sure if the last 2 work in IE).

In Seamonkey, all I can do is type 'sitename' and wait for it to search
google, and optionally add .com to it (as shown in location bar
preferences).

Is there a hack, or an extension that would enable this autocomplete in
SM 2?





It's not hard to meet expenses, they are everywhere.



Preferences>  Browser>  Autocomplete>  look at last two item at end of
page.


I'm only talking of SM 2.0- there's nothing called 'Autocomplete'.
The only setting is under Location bar for adding www and .com, that I
already spoke of.

Tried Ctrl-enter Option(alt)-Enter, Command-enter; none added anything. 
Also Ctrl-Return, Option-Return, Command-Return, same result.


Went Help menu and open help chose shortcuts. read all of them. a 
shortcut to do this does not exist. If it was a part of FF its one of 
the oops things they left out. Or Possibly you have an extension that 
does that.


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Re: SM2: Opening new windows

[Kent Briggs]

Leonidas Jones wrote:


What I am suggesting is that if SeaMonkey does have focus, rather
then having to click on your desktop, use CTRL+N to open a new
window.


Yes, understood. But I don't want have to pay attention to whether
SeaMonkey currently has the focus or not.

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Re: New Seamonkey

[Rufus]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

/snip/


Middle Click opens new tabs from links in the browser, keeping the
orignal page in a tab, it opens links in Mail/News, keeping focus to
Mail/News. Left click always brings the browser to focus, which I
usually don't want.

Without middle click I would feel hamstrung, but I guess its all in
what you are used to.

Lee


I just set my default prefs to open links meant for a new window into a
Tab in my browser, and that's probably why I miss it in a Pref panel for
Mail/News. I'd like to see a default pref to open messages in a new Tab
instead of a new window for Mail/News, and I guess that's in the works.

I can right click and select from the context menu to bring up a new Tab
for a link, so I've never seen a reason or need for a middle. But yeah,
I guess it's what you're used to.



Thing is, I can get any link to open in a new tab with one middle click, 
whether it is targeted for a new window or not. It is a little faster 
then right click and select new tab, though if I were used to doing it 
that way, I wouldn't think twice about it.


Lee


It's probably given the amount of time I spend on a laptop - I try to 
set up all my machines (Mac and PCs at work) to function as nearly the 
same as I can, so middle clicking is just an annoyance for me - 
particularly if I'm using a trackpad.


I have yet to navigate to a site with links I'd want to open in a new 
Tab without my taking direct action, so the pref works the way I do. 
Particularly given that History doesn't track across Tabs once you close 
them...the way I work sort of helps me manage the availability of 
History for my Back button.


...but that probably still speaks to laptop workflow, when I think about it.

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Re: SM2: Opening new windows

[Leonidas Jones]

Kent Briggs wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:


If the browser has focus, CTRL + N will open a new window, with no need
for a separate key. I know that's not a real solution, but itsa possible
workaround.


The keyboard button is handy because it gives me a new window whether
SeaMonkey is running or not. Or at least, it used to before 2.0.


Maybe I'm misunderstanding you.  I had understood that if SeaMonkey 2.0 
did not have focus, it worked as you wished.


What I am suggesting is that if SeaMonkey does have focus, rather then 
having to click on your desktop, use CTRL+N to open a new window. It may 
not be as handy as your programmable button, but a least you don't have 
to reach for the mouse.


Of course that won't do anything if SeaMonkey does not have focus, or is 
closed, but won't your button work in those cases?


Again, I'm not suggesting this as a solution, just a workaround.

Lee

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Re: New Seamonkey

[Leonidas Jones]

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

/snip/


Middle Click opens new tabs from links in the browser, keeping the
orignal page in a tab, it opens links in Mail/News, keeping focus to
Mail/News. Left click always brings the browser to focus, which I
usually don't want.

Without middle click I would feel hamstrung, but I guess its all in
what you are used to.

Lee


I just set my default prefs to open links meant for a new window into a
Tab in my browser, and that's probably why I miss it in a Pref panel for
Mail/News. I'd like to see a default pref to open messages in a new Tab
instead of a new window for Mail/News, and I guess that's in the works.

I can right click and select from the context menu to bring up a new Tab
for a link, so I've never seen a reason or need for a middle. But yeah,
I guess it's what you're used to.



Thing is, I can get any link to open in a new tab with one middle click, 
whether it is targeted for a new window or not. It is a little faster 
then right click and select new tab, though if I were used to doing it 
that way, I wouldn't think twice about it.


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Re: New Seamonkey

[Rufus]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:
Sometimes click and hold works, sometimes not. Control Click almost
always emulates a right click. Command click works for middle click
options in most cases.

Mac OSX is also enabled for three button mice as well. I love my
bluetooth Mighty Mouse. I don't know if Apple even sells the one
button mice any more, though. A lot of full time Mac users refer to
right and middle click, now, since our pointing devices now do that.
Of course laptops still need the shortcuts.

By the way barb, I assume that 1.5.1. was a typo for 1.4.11, the
latest Tiger?

Lee





Being able to "alternate click" or "right-click" using a gesture on the
new trackpads on the MacBook rocks! I'm one of the many that are drooling
for Apple to produce a wireless keyboard that incorporates the MacBook
trackpad - I hate mice in general, no matter whose they are. Gimme a
trackball!

...and I'm still looking for a reason to use a "middle click" for
anything. Haven't found one as of yet - left or right, yeah...middle?
Not so much...not for me anyway...



Middle Click opens new tabs from links in the browser, keeping the 
orignal page in a tab, it opens links in Mail/News, keeping focus to 
Mail/News.  Left click always brings the browser to focus, which I 
usually don't want.


Without middle click I would feel hamstrung, but I guess its all in what 
you are used to.


Lee


I just set my default prefs to open links meant for a new window into a 
Tab in my browser, and that's probably why I miss it in a Pref panel for 
Mail/News.  I'd like to see a default pref to open messages in a new Tab 
instead of a new window for Mail/News, and I guess that's in the works.


I can right click and select from the context menu to bring up a new Tab 
for a link, so I've never seen a reason or need for a middle.  But yeah, 
I guess it's what you're used to.


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Re: SM2 Slow Newsgroup Reader

[Kent Briggs]

NoOp wrote:


Well why don't you give it a try _first_&  let us know the result.
You can always set it back to 'true' if it doesn't work out.


I made that comment after trying it. I already switched it back. Having 
to click on every single group and waiting for it to return takes longer 
than the original problem. The delay just gets divided into smaller 
pieces and requires all those extra clicks. It's no solution at all.


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Re: SM2: Opening new windows

[Kent Briggs]

Leonidas Jones wrote:


If the browser has focus, CTRL + N will open a new window, with no need
for a separate key. I know that's not a real solutio, but itsa possible
workaround.


The keyboard button is handy because it gives me a new window whether 
SeaMonkey is running or not. Or at least, it used to before 2.0.

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Re: New Seamonkey

[Leonidas Jones]

Rufus wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 6/11/2009 19:38, Barbara Norvell told the
world:

I love the new Seamonkey. I have a little problem. On the front
page,
I did something that made the headings dissappear. I have the
Row of
bookmarks and the tabs, but the rest are missing.


Look at the personal toolbar (the "row of bookmarks" you mention).
Are
you seeing a small vertical rectangle on the left side? Yes? OK.

Now look right *above* the personal toolbar. Check if there is a
little
horizontal rectangle, similar to the one you found to the left
of the
personal toolbar, only horizontal instead of vertical. If there is
one,
click on it.

Those rectangles are like "toggles" to hide/unhide the toolbars.
They
have been there since the Netscape days, I think.




I don't see either of them. That is the first thing I looked for. My
mail window is fine, but I don't see the toggles on that page
either.
I assume they are there, or I wouldn't have lost the Top Bar.

Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1


Which Theme are you using? I've noted a few graphical issues with the
2.0 default theme - like some areas of the window excluding clicks -
for
ex: can't get a right-click to register above the Address bar.

Try switching to the Classic Theme and see if that presents the
"collapse" bars for you.



Just noticed the "collapse bars aren't displayed in the Default
Theme...

...another thing to try with the Default Theme - right click
(cntrl+click) the Toolbar and make sure "Navigation Toolbar" and
"Personal Toolbar" are both checked.

If you encounter the same bug I have - can't get a contextual menu if
you right-click the top of the Toolbar - try right-clicking at the
bottom of the Toolbar below the URL Address line. That should work.




Couldn't right click, cause I have a Mac, but I did a click and hold,
which I think is comparable to the right click on a pc. It works. My
navigation toolbar was not checked. Thanks

Barb
Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1



I'm an obsessive Mac user myself (I own 4 working ones, and have another
collection of defunct ones in my garage) - control+click on a Mac is
also a default equivalent for a right-click on a PC. Click and hold also
works...never tried that one before, so you taught me something! Glad
you got it solved.



Sometimes click and hold works, sometimes not. Control Click almost
always emulates a right click. Command click works for middle click
options in most cases.

Mac OSX is also enabled for three button mice as well. I love my
bluetooth Mighty Mouse. I don't know if Apple even sells the one
button mice any more, though. A lot of full time Mac users refer to
right and middle click, now, since our pointing devices now do that.
Of course laptops still need the shortcuts.

By the way barb, I assume that 1.5.1. was a typo for 1.4.11, the
latest Tiger?

Lee





Being able to "alternate click" or "right-click" using a geture on the
new trackpads ont MacBook rocks! I'm one of the many that are drooling
for Apple to produce a wireless keyboard that incorporates the MacBook
trackpad - I hate mice in general, no matter whose they are. Gimme a
trackball!

...and I'm still looking for a reason to use a "middle click" for
anything. Haven't found one as of yet - left or right, yeah...middle?
Not so much...not for me anyway...



Middle Click opens new tabs from links in the browser, keeping the 
orignal page in a tab, it opens links in Mail/News, keeping focus to 
Mail/News.  Left click always brings the browser to focus, which I 
usually don't want.


Without middle click I would feel hamstrung, but I guess its all in what 
you are used to.


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Re: SM2: Opening new windows

[Leonidas Jones]

Kent Briggs wrote:

I have a Dell keyboard that has some programmable buttons on it via
registry settings. I set one to launch SeaMonkey. In versions prior to
2.0, with SeaMonkey already running, pressing that button would open a
new browser window, as desired.

This no longer works when SeaMonkey 2.0 is the focused application.
Instead, it causes the current browser Window to jump to my home page.
If I first click on my desktop or another running app so SeaMonkey is
not the focused app, pressing the button will create a new window. But
of course I don't always remember to do that so it's very annoying.


If the browser has focus, CTRL + N will open a new window, with no need 
for a separate key.  I know that's not a real solutio, but itsa possible 
workaround.


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Re: SM2 Slow Newsgroup Reader

[NoOp]

On 11/07/2009 12:28 PM, Kent Briggs wrote:
> Gerry Hickman wrote:
> 
>> and then here:
>>
>> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_thread/thread/24c826b38b47a025/
> 
> 
> That news.update_unread_on_expand setting is no solution at all for me. 
> I have over a dozen groups on one particular server. I don't want to 
> have to click on each one of them to see if there are any new messages 
> there.
> 

Well why don't you give it a try _first_ & let us know the result. You
can always set it back to 'true' if it doesn't work out.


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Re: New Seamonkey

[Rufus]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 6/11/2009 19:38, Barbara Norvell told the
world:

I love the new Seamonkey. I have a little problem. On the front
page,
I did something that made the headings dissappear. I have the 
Row of

bookmarks and the tabs, but the rest are missing.


Look at the personal toolbar (the "row of bookmarks" you mention).
Are
you seeing a small vertical rectangle on the left side? Yes? OK.

Now look right *above* the personal toolbar. Check if there is a
little
horizontal rectangle, similar to the one you found to the left of 
the

personal toolbar, only horizontal instead of vertical. If there is
one,
click on it.

Those rectangles are like "toggles" to hide/unhide the toolbars. 
They

have been there since the Netscape days, I think.




I don't see either of them. That is the first thing I looked for. My
mail window is fine, but I don't see the toggles on that page either.
I assume they are there, or I wouldn't have lost the Top Bar.

Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1


Which Theme are you using? I've noted a few graphical issues with the
2.0 default theme - like some areas of the window excluding clicks -
for
ex: can't get a right-click to register above the Address bar.

Try switching to the Classic Theme and see if that presents the
"collapse" bars for you.



Just noticed the "collapse bars aren't displayed in the Default 
Theme...


...another thing to try with the Default Theme - right click
(cntrl+click) the Toolbar and make sure "Navigation Toolbar" and
"Personal Toolbar" are both checked.

If you encounter the same bug I have - can't get a contextual menu if
you right-click the top of the Toolbar - try right-clicking at the
bottom of the Toolbar below the URL Address line. That should work.




Couldn't right click, cause I have a Mac, but I did a click and hold,
which I think is comparable to the right click on a pc. It works. My
navigation toolbar was not checked. Thanks

Barb
Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1



I'm an obsessive Mac user myself (I own 4 working ones, and have another
collection of defunct ones in my garage) - control+click on a Mac is
also a default equivalent for a right-click on a PC. Click and hold also
works...never tried that one before, so you taught me something! Glad
you got it solved.



Sometimes click and hold works, sometimes not.  Control Click almost 
always emulates a right click.  Command click works for middle click 
options in most cases.


Mac OSX is also enabled for three button mice as well.  I love my 
bluetooth Mighty Mouse.  I don't know if Apple even sells the one button 
mice any more, though.  A lot of full time Mac users refer to right and 
middle click, now, since our pointing devices now do that. Of course 
laptops still need the shortcuts.


By the way barb, I assume that 1.5.1. was a typo for 1.4.11, the latest 
Tiger?


Lee





Being able to "alternate click" or "right-click" using a geture on the 
new trackpads ont MacBook rocks!  I'm one of the many that are drooling 
for Apple to produce a wireless keyboard that incorporates the MacBook 
trackpad - I hate mice in general, no matter whose they are.  Gimme a 
trackball!


...and I'm still looking for a reason to use a "middle click" for 
anything.  Haven't found one as of yet - left or right, yeah...middle? 
Not so much...not for me anyway...


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Re: SM2 Slow Newsgroup Reader

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Gerry Hickman wrote:


and then here:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_thread/thread/24c826b38b47a025/



That news.update_unread_on_expand setting is no solution at all for me. 
I have over a dozen groups on one particular server. I don't want to 
have to click on each one of them to see if there are any new messages 
there.


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Re: Copy & Paste

[Leonidas Jones]

Keith Whaley wrote:

Earl wrote:

Seamonkey v.2.0

I can copy but not paste. For instance, I can copy a URL but unable
to paste it into a new message. I can Copy it seems but neither right
clicking nor Ctl V will paste. Please explain or advise how to
achieve this common task.

Thanks.

EE



Your v.2.0 may be different, but on my computer, Command-V does the
pasting!

Caution: I am using SM 1.1.18 and Mac OS 10.6.1

keith whaley


It is CRTL V on Windows and Linux.

See the posts about the McAfee Site Advisor, it is almost surely causing 
the problem.


Lee
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Re: Problem with trash, using Vista and SM 2.0

[Leonidas Jones]

Lee wrote:

Lee wrote:
 > Hi, quick question, when an email is put in trash it is gone before
 > I had to manually delete in 1.1.17 I have checked all the settings
 > and have marked the folder to "not delete" or "keep" until I decide
 > but they are always gone. Any tips? Thanks!

I did check preferences and no the block for deletion upon exit is not
checked. But I did find out if it is not read it is not deleted when put
in the trash file.




How come this reply did not thread with the original post?

Anyhow, have you checked tour View Settings for the Trash folder?  Set 
View>>Messages to All.  It is possible that the messages are there, just 
hidden from you.


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Re: New Seamonkey

[Leonidas Jones]

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 6/11/2009 19:38, Barbara Norvell told the
world:

I love the new Seamonkey. I have a little problem. On the front
page,
I did something that made the headings dissappear. I have the Row of
bookmarks and the tabs, but the rest are missing.


Look at the personal toolbar (the "row of bookmarks" you mention).
Are
you seeing a small vertical rectangle on the left side? Yes? OK.

Now look right *above* the personal toolbar. Check if there is a
little
horizontal rectangle, similar to the one you found to the left of the
personal toolbar, only horizontal instead of vertical. If there is
one,
click on it.

Those rectangles are like "toggles" to hide/unhide the toolbars. They
have been there since the Netscape days, I think.




I don't see either of them. That is the first thing I looked for. My
mail window is fine, but I don't see the toggles on that page either.
I assume they are there, or I wouldn't have lost the Top Bar.

Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1


Which Theme are you using? I've noted a few graphical issues with the
2.0 default theme - like some areas of the window excluding clicks -
for
ex: can't get a right-click to register above the Address bar.

Try switching to the Classic Theme and see if that presents the
"collapse" bars for you.



Just noticed the "collapse bars aren't displayed in the Default Theme...

...another thing to try with the Default Theme - right click
(cntrl+click) the Toolbar and make sure "Navigation Toolbar" and
"Personal Toolbar" are both checked.

If you encounter the same bug I have - can't get a contextual menu if
you right-click the top of the Toolbar - try right-clicking at the
bottom of the Toolbar below the URL Address line. That should work.




Couldn't right click, cause I have a Mac, but I did a click and hold,
which I think is comparable to the right click on a pc. It works. My
navigation toolbar was not checked. Thanks

Barb
Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1



I'm an obsessive Mac user myself (I own 4 working ones, and have another
collection of defunct ones in my garage) - control+click on a Mac is
also a default equivalent for a right-click on a PC. Click and hold also
works...never tried that one before, so you taught me something! Glad
you got it solved.



Sometimes click and hold works, sometimes not.  Control Click almost 
always emulates a right click.  Command click works for middle click 
options in most cases.


Mac OSX is also enabled for three button mice as well.  I love my 
bluetooth Mighty Mouse.  I don't know if Apple even sells the one button 
mice any more, though.  A lot of full time Mac users refer to right and 
middle click, now, since our pointing devices now do that. Of course 
laptops still need the shortcuts.


By the way barb, I assume that 1.5.1. was a typo for 1.4.11, the latest 
Tiger?


Lee



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Re: New Seamonkey

[Rufus]

Barbara Norvell wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Barbara Norvell wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 6/11/2009 19:38, Barbara Norvell told the world:

I love the new Seamonkey. I have a little problem. On the front page,
I did something that made the headings dissappear. I have the Row of
bookmarks and the tabs, but the rest are missing.


Look at the personal toolbar (the "row of bookmarks" you mention). Are
you seeing a small vertical rectangle on the left side? Yes? OK.

Now look right *above* the personal toolbar. Check if there is a 
little

horizontal rectangle, similar to the one you found to the left of the
personal toolbar, only horizontal instead of vertical. If there is 
one,

click on it.

Those rectangles are like "toggles" to hide/unhide the toolbars. They
have been there since the Netscape days, I think.




I don't see either of them. That is the first thing I looked for. My
mail window is fine, but I don't see the toggles on that page either.
I assume they are there, or I wouldn't have lost the Top Bar.

Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1


Which Theme are you using? I've noted a few graphical issues with the
2.0 default theme - like some areas of the window excluding clicks - for
ex: can't get a right-click to register above the Address bar.

Try switching to the Classic Theme and see if that presents the
"collapse" bars for you.



Just noticed the "collapse bars aren't displayed in the Default Theme...

...another thing to try with the Default Theme - right click
(cntrl+click) the Toolbar and make sure "Navigation Toolbar" and
"Personal Toolbar" are both checked.

If you encounter the same bug I have - can't get a contextual menu if
you right-click the top of the Toolbar - try right-clicking at the
bottom of the Toolbar below the URL Address line. That should work.




Couldn't right click, cause I have a Mac, but I did a click and hold, 
which I think is comparable to the right click on a pc.  It works.  My

navigation toolbar was not checked.  Thanks

Barb
Barb
Ibook G4
OS 10.4.1



I'm an obsessive Mac user myself (I own 4 working ones, and have another 
collection of defunct ones in my garage) - control+click on a Mac is 
also a default equivalent for a right-click on a PC.  Click and hold 
also works...never tried that one before, so you taught me something! 
Glad you got it solved.


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'Replies to my messages' view for newsgroups?

[Rex]

Is there a way to create such a view?
I think I've seen it in Outlook Express before.





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