Re: [Dialup speed] was (Re: Cookies)

[Cedar]

NoOp wrote:

On 12/14/2009 12:08 AM, Cedar wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

...

Any chance this is just seasonal traffic increase due to Christmas
shoppers online? I remember when I was on dial up with AT&T, December
was always a miserable month for me. However, that was a long time ago,
so things may have improved since then.
bj


Well, in general, I doubt if things have improved for us poor ol'
"dialupers", and of course, will not improve any further as its
basically a dead technology.  But, no, it can't be the Christmas
thingit's just way too extreme for that, and I've never noticed that
before on ours, actually.  Since FF seems to be working quite well, and
the, ugh..."other browser" just flies through it all, it's obviously
something with sm, unfortunately.  Oh well, I guess we can survive with
FF until/if SM's next version improves things.


No idea if this will help on dialup, but you might try going into
about:config and setting:
network.dns.disableIPv6;true

Try experimenting with pipelining (Keep-Alive) and Link Prefetching
turned on/off.

Note: you can compare these settings in Fx in about:config as well.
network.http.pipelining;true
network.http.keep-alive;false

Perhaps someone w/dialup can offer more suggestions.


Thanks for the suggestions, but these are all set identically in both FF 
and SM, so probably not a clue?  What is IPv6?  I have never had 
pipelining on, the warnings kinda veered me away from that, what does 
that do?

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Re: Redbox.com doesn't like SeaMonkey v2?

[Ant]

On 12/14/2009 10:44 AM PT, David E. Ross typed:

[snipped]


I got the same reply.

I don't use RedBox.  Thus, I'm putting the burden on you (Ant).  If this
is not fixed within the next two weeks or so, send a letter to the CEO
of the company.  Don't be too technical, but point out (1) they are
excluding a portion of their potential customer base and (2) they are
risking a lawsuit under the ADA.


I will definitely check in a week or so when I am on Christmas break to 
rent some DVDs. ;)

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don't mind getting my hands dirty." "I mean, maggots, wet trash, I am 
the first one in." "Okay, so what are you waiting for?" "Ants." 
(Chuckles) "Ants?" "Yes, I have got a problem with ants." "They are 
sneaky, and they are mobile, and when they get on you, even if you get 
them off..." "Okay, Calleigh, chill." --CSI: Miami (Wannabe episode; #218)

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Re: SM2.0 vs 1.1.18

[John]

Paul wrote:

John wrote:
Just re installed 1.1.18 and all the problems I had with SM2.0 
vanished.  It was really annoying using SM2.0 it kept asking for a 
username & password for email accounts. ugly.


I used Netscape 4.08 until a year ago, then went
to SM 1117.  I am still with 1117.
I should be good now until about the year 2014.

I would vote for that. :)
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SM2 Bugs?

[mcewr]

I have noticed a couple of things since I upgraded to Seamonkey 2.0:
1. The mail in my POP accounts doesn't seem to automatically download at 
startup.

2. I can't send large attachments anymore (window stops at 3%).

Does anyone know if these are 2.0 bugs?

Thanks,

Rod
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Re: hiw do I get out of

[Leonidas Jones]

Goodwin Family wrote:

I think I am subscribed to a Mozilla newsgroup but I not sure how it
happened. I keep getting emails related to the above address, DO you
know how I get out of it.

thx

S. Goodwin


You will not be subscribed to a Mozilla mailing list unless you or 
someone with access to your computer requested it.


Look at the link below:

https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo

Find the list in question and click on it for information on how to 
uninstall.


Right now, this would seem to be support-seamonkey.

Note, these groups work much better when viewed as newsgroups, (nntp).

Lee
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Re: Bing as SM2 search engine preference

[Lou]

Phillip Jones wrote:

NoOp wrote:

Sorry, you need a Mozilla-based browser (such as Firefox) to install a
search plugin. According to MS apparently SeaMonkey isn't a mozilla
product.


Coming from Micro$oft, I'm not surprised.
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Re: Troublesome emails fail to "junk"

[Lou]

stango wrote:

Broadback wrote:

I keep receiving emails from World of Warcraft, with whom I have no
association. Though I mark these as junk they still keep coming. I
have no problems with other junk emails, any suggestions please? If so
make it simple like me!


Those emails should have an 'opt-out' link, normally at the bottom of
the page and in small letters. I have found that using the 'opt-out'
function stops most junk mail from major companies.

Replying at all to any spam is the surest way of getting more spam.  The 
'opt-out' link is often used by spammers in order to identify 'live' 
addresses.  I would only opt-out if the E-mail comes from a reputable 
company (i.e., your bank, Amazon, etc...) and you can be 100% certain 
that the E-Mail actually comes from them.

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Re: SeaMonkey web page Composer

[Leonidas Jones]

LDixon wrote:

I'm glad that SeaMonkey has maintained Netscape Composer.

But, I was surprised to find that it hasn't been improved at all, that
I can see.

Here are a few suggestions:
*  Put a scroll bar in the Format/Font menu, for speed.  (I use Ariel
and Verdana a lot!)

*  Put the font options (style, size, etc.) in the tool bar, as one
sees in Word.

*  When inserting images, don't make the the default "Alternate
text" (I *never, ever* use that) - or else don't force making a
choice.

I could come up with other suggestions, but those are a few simple
ones.
Thanks.


Improvements should be coming as of 2.1, stay tuned.

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hiw do I get out of

[Goodwin Family]

I think I am subscribed to a Mozilla newsgroup but I not sure how it 
happened. I keep getting emails related to the above address, DO you 
know how I get out of it.


thx

S. Goodwin
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SeaMonkey web page Composer

[LDixon]

I'm glad that SeaMonkey has maintained Netscape Composer.

But, I was surprised to find that it hasn't been improved at all, that
I can see.

Here are a few suggestions:
*  Put a scroll bar in the Format/Font menu, for speed.  (I use Ariel
and Verdana a lot!)

*  Put the font options (style, size, etc.) in the tool bar, as one
sees in Word.

*  When inserting images, don't make the the default "Alternate
text" (I *never, ever* use that) - or else don't force making a
choice.

I could come up with other suggestions, but those are a few simple
ones.
Thanks.
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Re: i am having trouble with seanomkey 2

[NoOp]

On 12/14/2009 02:30 PM, beelzib...@comcast.net wrote:
> ... it win'y pody to newsbgoups so you won't see this.i have 
> thundernbird running fine. how do i import the news settings
> to seamonkey 2???
> 
> sid

dnt Kn

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Re: Bing as SM2 search engine preference

[NoOp]

On 12/14/2009 01:08 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 12/13/2009 08:53 PM, JAS wrote:
>>> Is there a way to add Bing to the search engine preference so it can be
>>> set as default?
>>>
>>
>> You could modify one of the seamonkey/searchplugins .src files to use bing.
> 
> Note here is the message you receive in SM 2 when you attempt to load 
> Bing add on:
> 
> Sorry, you need a Mozilla-based browser (such as Firefox) to install a 
> search plugin. According to MS apparently SeaMonkey isn't a mozilla product.
> 

I didn't say add a Bing add-on; I stated "You could modify one of the
seamonkey/searchplugins .src files to use bing". Look in the folder that
I mentioned & you'll see the .src files for the search engine plugins.

Here's one:
> # Mozilla/Google plug-in by amitp+mozi...@google.com
> 
> name="Google"
>description="Google Search"
>method="GET"
>action="http://www.google.com/search";
>update="http://www.google.com/mozilla/google.src";
>updateCheckDays=1   
>queryEncoding="utf-8"
>queryCharset="utf-8"
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  browserResultType="result" 
> charset = "UTF-8"
> resultListStart="" 
> resultListEnd="" 
> resultItemStart="" 
> resultItemEnd=""
>>
> 

Copy and modify that to adjust for Bing & you're good to go.

Heck, you guys do more with chrome mods, user.js mods etc., for your
fancy themes than the few minutes it would take to do a bing.src file &
add a bing.gif. Then to change the default, all you really need to do is
change your browser search preferences to use Bing instead of whatever.




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Re: SM2.0 vs 1.1.18

[Paul]

John wrote:
Just re installed 1.1.18 and all the problems I had with SM2.0 vanished. 
 It was really annoying using SM2.0 it kept asking for a username & 
password for email accounts. ugly.


I used Netscape 4.08 until a year ago, then went
to SM 1117.  I am still with 1117.
I should be good now until about the year 2014.
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Re: i am having trouble with seanomkey 2

[Leonidas Jones]

beelzib...@comcast.net wrote:

... it win'y pody to newsbgoups so you won't see this.i have
thundernbird running fine. how do i import the news settings
to seamonkey 2???

sid


Your a little off with the typing.  (I should talk.)

Well, the post arrived, I did see it, are you seeing the reply?

Lee
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Re: SM2.0 vs 1.1.18

[question]

Norvin wrote:

John wrote:
Just re installed 1.1.18 and all the problems I had with SM2.0 
vanished.  It was really annoying using SM2.0 it kept asking for a 
username & password for email accounts. ugly.

I went back to, didn't want the hassle that SM2.0 brought with it.

 Welcome Back to the Real World ..

AMEN
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Re: About SeaMonkey?

[David E. Ross]

On 12/14/2009 12:59 PM, Rob Steinmetz wrote:
> Does the About Seamonkey page update when you upgrade to 2.0.1?
> 
> Mine says 2.0 and when I check for update I get "No updates Available".
> 
> The build information is;
>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; 
>> rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 Lightning/1.0b1pre SeaMonkey/2.0
> 

The [Help > About SeaMonkey] page reflects the current version, whatever
that version is.  Of course, you can change what SeaMonkey thinks its
version is.  That's called "spoofing".

Updates can be made automatic.  On your menu bar, go to [Edit >
Preferences].  On the left side of the Preferences window, select
[Advanced > Software Install].  On the Software Installation pane,
select the checkbox (to put a check mark there) for "SeaMonkey" under
"Automatically check for updates to:".  Indicate how often you want to
check.

I'm not sure, but I think automatic updates of an end-user version of
SeaMonkey will only occur when there is a new end-user version.  That
is, with the UA string you show in your message (an end-user version),
you won't automatically get nightlies, alphas, betas, or release
candidates.

-- 
David E. Ross


Go to Mozdev at  for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: Chatzilla & charset

[Ray_Net]

Ray_Net wrote:
i am still with SM 1.1.14 ... i have lurked into #testday but here in 
belgium, the #testday worked during the night :-).
However, i have reached #testday using my prefered irc-client (named 
pirch) and also using chatzilla.

Pirch work only with iso-8859-1.
Chatzilla works with any charset, so we can choice between urf-8 (the 
default) and iso-8859-1.


When a utf-8 client read an utf-8 post or an iso-8859-1 post using 
accentuated characters like some we can see here:

http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/bylanguage/french.html
all characters are readed OK.

When a iso-8859-1 client read an utf-8 post or an iso-8859-1 post using 
accentuated characters ... all characters from iso-8859-1 are OK - but -

The accentuated characters from utf-8 are garbage.

I started SM-Chatzilla with the default utf-8.
I sent accentuated chars into an iso-8859-1 guy. Garbage = ok
I received accentuated chars from an iso-8859-1 guy. Perfect = ok
I received accentuated chars from an utf-8 guy. Perfect = ok

I changed the charset to iso-8859-1 in Chatzilla - Global - Clicked 
"Apply" then "OK".

I sent accentuated chars into an iso-8859-1 guy. perfect = ok
I received accentuated chars from an iso-8859-1 guy. Perfect = ok
I received accentuated chars from an utf-8 guy. Garbage = ok

I changed the charset to utf-8 in Chatzilla - Global - Clicked "Apply" 
then "OK".

I sent accentuated chars into an iso-8859-1 guy. garbage = ok
I received accentuated chars from an iso-8859-1 guy. Perfect = ok
I received accentuated chars from an utf-8 guy. Garbage = NOT OK

I am now in a status where i write in utf-8 and read in iso-8859-1.

The only way to correct this status is to stop then start Chatzilla.

I have no idea about how to permit the developper of SM to test and 
reproduce what i am talking about ...




Nobody can help me ?
Is it enough that i post this(as it is now) to bugzilla ?
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Re: About SeaMonkey?

[Robert Traynor]

Where do you get 2.0.1 from..?  I went to:-


And all I can see is v2.0 and past betas and rRC versions etc.

Regards,
Robert Traynor (BobT).
15 December 2009   10:07


Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Does the About Seamonkey page update when you upgrade to 2.0.1?

Mine says 2.0 and when I check for update I get "No updates Available".

The build information is;

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 Lightning/1.0b1pre SeaMonkey/2.0




Mine does state 2.0.1.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6)
Gecko/20091206 Lightning/1.0pre Mnenhy/0.7.6.0 SeaMonkey/2.0.1

Lee

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i am having trouble with seanomkey 2

[beelzibub2]

... it win'y pody to newsbgoups so you won't see this.i have 
thundernbird running fine. how do i import the news settings

to seamonkey 2???

sid
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Re: SM2.0 vs 1.1.18

[Norvin]

John wrote:
Just re installed 1.1.18 and all the problems I had with SM2.0 vanished. 
 It was really annoying using SM2.0 it kept asking for a username & 
password for email accounts. ugly.

I went back to, didn't want the hassle that SM2.0 brought with it.
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Re: About SeaMonkey?

[Leonidas Jones]

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Does the About Seamonkey page update when you upgrade to 2.0.1?

Mine says 2.0 and when I check for update I get "No updates Available".

The build information is;

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 Lightning/1.0b1pre SeaMonkey/2.0




Mine does state 2.0.1.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6) 
Gecko/20091206 Lightning/1.0pre Mnenhy/0.7.6.0 SeaMonkey/2.0.1


Lee
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Re: Filter Help on SM 2.0

[NoOp]

On 12/14/2009 01:12 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 12/13/2009 05:31 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
>>> NoOp wrote:
 On 12/12/2009 08:55 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
 ...
>>> each account or mailbox has it own set of filters.
>>>
>>
>> And?
>>
>> If you you select either one in the filter manager (Tools|Filter
>> Manger|Filters for:) and elect to 'Run selected filter(s) on: xyz
>> what happens? Is that not available on your Mac?
>>
>>
> Separate set of filters. the filter Manager is the same Manager but the
> filter rules are separate.  Like I said, I have in one account only
> about 20 filters or less. In the other I have over a hundred most are to
> organize mail in to various sub-directories. some are to mark items read
> from certain individual before I even open  mail in a given sub directory
>

 And? Does it not work when you select and 'Run selected filter on: xyz?

 Let's go back to the OP:
> The reason is, I need to figure out the reason that when I click on "Run
> Filters on Folder" nothing happens and I believe the answer may be
> within this area, do you not think?

 So, regardless of how many filters you have set, or sub-whatever, the
 question was:
 If you you select either one in the filter manager (Tools|Filter
 Manger|Filters for:) and elect to 'Run selected filter(s) on: xyz
 what happens? Is that not available on your Mac?

 ** Actually I on my system it's Tools|Message Filters sorry about that.



>>> on  Mac and should work on PC since SeaMonkey works the same (just some
>>> different names and key combos) when adding a new filter
>>>
>>> click on From: email address when context box comes up choose create
>>> filter. when Filter Manager opens I choose
>>>
>>> From: contains  type any info (or select) all information to right of
>>> the @. The choose match any of the following. then choose desired
>>> (Folder, director or what ever you want to call it.). the click run.
>>>
>>> If it doesn't work try reply to:,  or To:
>>>
>>
>> That's not what I asked, but OK. For your issue, perhaps this will apply:
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387337
>> [ news server filters not working in SM 2.0a1  ]
>>
> In newsgroups filters have never have worked in SM1.1.18 and lower (for 
> me). don't know they do in SM 2
> 

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387337#c15

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Re: Redbox.com doesn't like SeaMonkey v2?

[Phillip Jones]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/13/2009 5:18 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/13/2009 2:37 PM, Ant wrote:

Hello.

Is it me or does http://www.redbox.com/ not like SeaMonkey unless I
change its UserAgent to Firefox v2/v3?

I get an error: "XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: http://www.redbox.com/
Line Number 203, Column 89:http://www.redbox.com/Titles/AvailableTitles.aspx#Genre&genreID=1020";
style="float: right;">More Movies
^"

Thank you in advance. :)


Yes, you have hit another case of invalid sniffing.



The only thing I see it really affect the first item overlaps the red
Margin and if I switch from 12 point as minimum font size to no minimum
work perfect. everything else, all the other links click on and go to
properly drawn pages.



Is it possible that the presence of "Lightning" before "SeaMonkey" in
your UA string somehow causes sniffing to give a different result?  Or
it might be the fact that your platform being a Mac causes sniffing to
be different?


Don't know. all I know site wfm.

Using SeaMonkey 2 Yes I did install Lightning. Not impressed with though.

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Re: Filter Help on SM 2.0

[Phillip Jones]

NoOp wrote:

On 12/13/2009 05:31 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 12/12/2009 08:55 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

NoOp wrote:

...

each account or mailbox has it own set of filters.



And?

If you you select either one in the filter manager (Tools|Filter
Manger|Filters for:) and elect to 'Run selected filter(s) on: xyz
what happens? Is that not available on your Mac?



Separate set of filters. the filter Manager is the same Manager but the
filter rules are separate.  Like I said, I have in one account only
about 20 filters or less. In the other I have over a hundred most are to
organize mail in to various sub-directories. some are to mark items read
from certain individual before I even open  mail in a given sub directory



And? Does it not work when you select and 'Run selected filter on: xyz?

Let's go back to the OP:

The reason is, I need to figure out the reason that when I click on "Run
Filters on Folder" nothing happens and I believe the answer may be
within this area, do you not think?


So, regardless of how many filters you have set, or sub-whatever, the
question was:
If you you select either one in the filter manager (Tools|Filter
Manger|Filters for:) and elect to 'Run selected filter(s) on: xyz
what happens? Is that not available on your Mac?

** Actually I on my system it's Tools|Message Filters sorry about that.




on  Mac and should work on PC since SeaMonkey works the same (just some
different names and key combos) when adding a new filter

click on From: email address when context box comes up choose create
filter. when Filter Manager opens I choose

From: contains  type any info (or select) all information to right of
the @. The choose match any of the following. then choose desired
(Folder, director or what ever you want to call it.). the click run.

If it doesn't work try reply to:,  or To:



That's not what I asked, but OK. For your issue, perhaps this will apply:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387337
[ news server filters not working in SM 2.0a1  ]

In newsgroups filters have never have worked in SM1.1.18 and lower (for 
me). don't know they do in SM 2


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Re: Bing as SM2 search engine preference

[Phillip Jones]

NoOp wrote:

On 12/13/2009 08:53 PM, JAS wrote:

Is there a way to add Bing to the search engine preference so it can be
set as default?



You could modify one of the seamonkey/searchplugins .src files to use bing.


Note here is the message you receive in SM 2 when you attempt to load 
Bing add on:


Sorry, you need a Mozilla-based browser (such as Firefox) to install a 
search plugin. According to MS apparently SeaMonkey isn't a mozilla product.


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About SeaMonkey?

[Rob Steinmetz]

Does the About Seamonkey page update when you upgrade to 2.0.1?

Mine says 2.0 and when I check for update I get "No updates Available".

The build information is;

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) 
Gecko/20091017 Lightning/1.0b1pre SeaMonkey/2.0


--
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SM2.0 vs 1.1.18

[John]

Just re installed 1.1.18 and all the problems I had with SM2.0 vanished. 
 It was really annoying using SM2.0 it kept asking for a username & 
password for email accounts. ugly.

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Re: Bing as SM2 search engine preference

[Phillip Jones]

JAS wrote:

Is there a way to add Bing to the search engine preference so it can be
set as default?



No. If you do a Google search on this exact wording

There comes up a bunch of threads. But according to Bing in the first 
you get to SeaMonkey 2 is not a Mozilla Product and therefore no supported.


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Re: Bing as SM2 search engine preference

[NoOp]

On 12/13/2009 08:53 PM, JAS wrote:
> Is there a way to add Bing to the search engine preference so it can be
> set as default?
> 

You could modify one of the seamonkey/searchplugins .src files to use bing.
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Re: SMTP parameter in SM2 after having migrated from SM1

[Tom Rocek]

rocek wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Martin Freitag wrote:

rocek schrieb:

I am experiencing similar problems, and went so far as to ask our
systems people at the University of Delaware to check it out; they
downloaded Seamonkey 2.0 and couldn't get it to work with our servers
with any combination of settings (Seamonkey 1.x worked fine). I also
have been unable to get the SMTP settings to work with Speakeasy's 
SMTP

server (my isp), which had no problem with Seamonkey 1.x; I tried
authentication on and off, as well as playing with multiple 
options. So
far, the only SMTP server that's worked for me is google. Are there 
some

compatibility issues in the new setting options? Thanks for any
suggesitonsTom


Tried to apply obones' instructions at the end of this thread?
regards

Martin


Martin, whilst Rocek may well have had some Passwords come across 
from SM 1.x into SM 2.0, I'm guessing that the U of C probably didn't 
have SM 1.x on their system, so would not have had any PW's to carry 
over.


Just guessing, though

Daniel


Error... should have been "U of D" rather than "U of C"!!

Daniel
Thanks for all of the suggestions, but unfortunately no, I don't have 
old saved passwords, and the U of D systems folks who tried and failed 
to get SM2 to work with our server did a clean install of SM as far as I 
know.  So no, the problem is neither with old saved passwords or with 
accidentally leaving authentication checked on.  For what it is worth, 
the SM1 settings that work were:


port 25  [port 587 works too]
x Use name and pasword
TLS, if available;
and if I recall, an alternative setting

Given that our systems folks couldn't get it to work, I still think it 
is some sort of limitation in SM2...

best wishes, Tom
Ah, sorry for my error; I finally figured out that the problem was being 
caused by my firewall and had nothing to do with Seamonkey 2.0 itself; 
after adding Seamonkey to the exclude list, I am now able to send via 
both my university's and Speakeasy's SMTP server.

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[Dialup speed] was (Re: Cookies)

[NoOp]

On 12/14/2009 12:08 AM, Cedar wrote:
> chicagofan wrote:
...
>> Any chance this is just seasonal traffic increase due to Christmas
>> shoppers online? I remember when I was on dial up with AT&T, December
>> was always a miserable month for me. However, that was a long time ago,
>> so things may have improved since then.
>> bj
> 
> Well, in general, I doubt if things have improved for us poor ol' 
> "dialupers", and of course, will not improve any further as its 
> basically a dead technology.  But, no, it can't be the Christmas 
> thingit's just way too extreme for that, and I've never noticed that 
> before on ours, actually.  Since FF seems to be working quite well, and 
> the, ugh..."other browser" just flies through it all, it's obviously 
> something with sm, unfortunately.  Oh well, I guess we can survive with 
> FF until/if SM's next version improves things.

No idea if this will help on dialup, but you might try going into
about:config and setting:
network.dns.disableIPv6;true

Try experimenting with pipelining (Keep-Alive) and Link Prefetching
turned on/off.

Note: you can compare these settings in Fx in about:config as well.
network.http.pipelining;true
network.http.keep-alive;false

Perhaps someone w/dialup can offer more suggestions.
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Re: Redbox.com doesn't like SeaMonkey v2?

[David E. Ross]

On 12/13/2009 11:03 PM, Ant wrote:
> On 12/13/2009 3:17 PM PT, David E. Ross typed:
> 
>> On 12/13/2009 2:47 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>>> On 12/13/2009 2:37 PM, Ant wrote:
 Hello.

 Is it me or does http://www.redbox.com/ not like SeaMonkey unless I
 change its UserAgent to Firefox v2/v3?

 I get an error: "XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
 Location: http://www.redbox.com/
 Line Number 203, Column 89:>>> href="http://www.redbox.com/Titles/AvailableTitles.aspx#Genre&genreID=1020";
 style="float: right;">More Movies
 ^"

 Thank you in advance. :)
>>>
>>> Yes, you have hit another case of invalid sniffing.
>>>
>>
>> This is now bug #534550.  See
>> .
>>
>> Ant:  Please communicate to RedBox that they have a problem.
> 
> RedBox replied:
> 
> From: questi...@redbox.com
> To: ant
> Date: 14 Dec 2009 00:37:09 -0600
> Subject: re:redbox
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Thank you for your e-mail. Your comments, suggestions & business are
> important to us. I will share the information you have provided with the
> appropriate parties.
> 
> If you have any additional questions, comments, or concerns, please 
> let us
> know and anyone in customer service would be more than happy to assist
> you.
> 
> Thank you,
> -Santos
> Redbox Customer Care
> 1.866.REDBOX3
> www.redbox.com

I got the same reply.

I don't use RedBox.  Thus, I'm putting the burden on you (Ant).  If this
is not fixed within the next two weeks or so, send a letter to the CEO
of the company.  Don't be too technical, but point out (1) they are
excluding a portion of their potential customer base and (2) they are
risking a lawsuit under the ADA.

-- 
David E. Ross


Go to Mozdev at  for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: Profile migration: name not transferred

[Lucas Levrel]

Thanks to all!
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Re: Redbox.com doesn't like SeaMonkey v2?

[chicagofan]

Ant wrote:

On 12/13/2009 3:17 PM PT, David E. Ross typed:


Ant:  Please communicate to RedBox that they have a problem.


RedBox replied:

From: questi...@redbox.com
To: ant
Date: 14 Dec 2009 00:37:09 -0600
Subject: re:redbox

 Hello,

 Thank you for your e-mail. Your comments, suggestions&  business are
 important to us. I will share the information you have provided with the
 appropriate parties.

 If you have any additional questions, comments, or concerns, please let us
 know and anyone in customer service would be more than happy to assist
 you.

 Thank you,
 -Santos
 Redbox Customer Care
 1.866.REDBOX3
 www.redbox.com


:)



Great!  Thanks for sharing.  I wrote them yesterday too, but my reply 
address wasn't good.  Forgot to change it.

bj

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Re: Intermittent incorrect favicon bug

[art]

On 12/14/09 8:43 AM, MCBastos wrote:


Interviewed by CNN on 14/12/2009 03:05, Rex told the world:

 I've often seen this happen:
 Let's say I have tabs A,B,C in order. Each one displays its own favicon.
 I either open a 3rd tab adjacent to B(I use 'Tabs open relative') but
 before C, or enter a new URL within B. Sometimes the favicon for C gets
 replaced with the one for B.


I have noticed another, possibly related bug:
Some bookmarks somehow get the wrong favicon.

I didn't investigate the matter deeply, but I suspect it might have
something to do with the "aggressively look for website icons" feature
-- the one in which Seamonkey looks for a file named favicon.ico on the
website's root.

For the second issue - this might be related to the fact that the 
favicon may be already in the browser's cache. Try flushing the cache 
(via preferences/advanced/cache or Manuel Reimer's PrefBar add-on), 
reload the page(s) and see if that makes a difference.


It also may depend on whether SM is looking for the default 
"favicon.ico" file at the server's root level or whether the web page is 
explicitly specifying a favicon file via a  ...> or  statement. Viewing the web page source 
will confirm this.


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Re: Bing as SM2 search engine preference

[JAS]

Leonidas Jones wrote:
> JD wrote:
>> JAS wrote:
>>> Is there a way to add Bing to the search engine preference so it can be
>>> set as default?
>>>
>>
>> Because you use a deliminator on your sig file, it disappeared when I
>> replied but I'll add it back for you:
> /snip/
>>
>> When you're on Bing, did you click on the "Make Bing Your Search
>> Provider" in the upper right of the page? I haven't had much luck using
>> Bing so I'm not going to click on it to see what happens.
>>
>> I'd be interested in your results of clicking there because sometime MS
>> is not very friendly to other browsers.
>>
>> It's always been my opinion that dignity and respect are something you
>> earn and that I'm not really responsible for mistreatment that I get at
>> the hands of others. It's their problem, not mine. But that's just my
>> opinion, please try to respect it and don't mistreat me. 8-)
>>
>
> Why do you want to include his sig in your copy?  It has nothing to do
> with the support question.  The whole point to the delimiter is to
> strip the sig, which is usually unrelated.  IN any bottom posted
> reply, which is the group preference, the delimiter automatically
> removes unwanted sig material.
>
> JAS, don't fix it, it ain't broke.
>
> Lee
OK

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Re: Crash in SM 2.0.1 when in mail

[David Wilkinson]

JAS wrote:

I just updated to SM2.0.1 from SM2 as per upgrade pop up. Had no
problems at all with SM2. 


I am confused. I have not received any popup to upgrade from SM 2.0 to 2.0.1, 
and if I go to the SeaMonkey home page the download is still SM 2.0.


What gives? This is on Windows 7, in case it matters.

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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

[Arne]

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Arne:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Arne:



Yep, the prefs.js is there.


Fine. You could check with 'about:config' if the setting was successful.


Checked and it's there. I understand that there is no such preference
in about:config before it's created in user.js (or prefs.js)?


Not all Prefs are existing under about:config. But they are if there is
a deviation from the default value. I hope that 'deviation' is right for
'Abweichung'. *g*


Correct, Abweichung means "deviation", also according to Google 
Translate. ;)



A new one could be created with 'New' from the context menu of a right
click.


Ah, yes of course. If you know what to write there to make it work, as 
I think SM would not understand if I just make something up. ;)


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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

[Robert Kaiser]

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Arne:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Arne:



Yep, the prefs.js is there.


Fine. You could check with 'about:config' if the setting was successful.


Checked and it's there. I understand that there is no such preference
in about:config before it's created in user.js (or prefs.js)?


Not all Prefs are existing under about:config. But they are if there is
a deviation from the default value. I hope that 'deviation' is right for
'Abweichung'. *g*


All prefs that are currently set in some way are there in about:config 
but what's right is that not all prefs need to be set. If they aren't, 
the most convient way to set them is to right-click and create a new 
pref right from about:config though ;-)


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Re: Bing as SM2 search engine preference

[Leonidas Jones]

JD wrote:

JAS wrote:

Is there a way to add Bing to the search engine preference so it can be
set as default?



Because you use a deliminator on your sig file, it disappeared when I
replied but I'll add it back for you:

/snip/


When you're on Bing, did you click on the "Make Bing Your Search
Provider" in the upper right of the page? I haven't had much luck using
Bing so I'm not going to click on it to see what happens.

I'd be interested in your results of clicking there because sometime MS
is not very friendly to other browsers.

It's always been my opinion that dignity and respect are something you
earn and that I'm not really responsible for mistreatment that I get at
the hands of others. It's their problem, not mine. But that's just my
opinion, please try to respect it and don't mistreat me. 8-)



Why do you want to include his sig in your copy?  It has nothing to do 
with the support question.  The whole point to the delimiter is to strip 
the sig, which is usually unrelated.  IN any bottom posted reply, which 
is the group preference, the delimiter automatically removes unwanted 
sig material.


JAS, don't fix it, it ain't broke.

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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

[Hartmut Figge]

Arne:
>Hartmut Figge wrote:
>> Arne:

>>> Yep, the prefs.js is there.
>>
>> Fine. You could check with 'about:config' if the setting was successful.
>
>Checked and it's there. I understand that there is no such preference 
>in about:config before it's created in user.js (or prefs.js)?

Not all Prefs are existing under about:config. But they are if there is
a deviation from the default value. I hope that 'deviation' is right for
'Abweichung'. *g*

A new one could be created with 'New' from the context menu of a right
click.

>> But another point. Crossposting without Followup-To is evil. And in this
>> special case .planning should not have been included. The right group
>> for your question is .support.seamonkey.
>
>Sorry for that. As it was both a question and possible feature request 
>to the developer team, I wasn't sure where to post it. But I did 
>mentioned in my opening post that it was cross posted and somebody 
>could set the follow up to the "appropriate" group.

Mhm. I see crosspostings very often in the groups of news.mozilla.org
and very seldom if at all a Followup-To is set. The OP should do it.

>Thanks for the guidance! Now waiting for the first reply with a SV/Sv 
>to see the preference do it's duty.

You could use a test group. I have just done so with 'Subject: AW: Re:
Aw: Re: Re: AW: ignore' and replying to it. Works fine. :)

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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

[Arne]

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Arne:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Arne:



Hope that is the right place?


Perhaps. I don't know anything about Windows. But if the prefs.js is in
this directory, then it should be the right place.


Yep, the prefs.js is there.


Fine. You could check with 'about:config' if the setting was successful.


Checked and it's there. I understand that there is no such preference 
in about:config before it's created in user.js (or prefs.js)?



But another point. Crossposting without Followup-To is evil. And in this
special case .planning should not have been included. The right group
for your question is .support.seamonkey.


Sorry for that. As it was both a question and possible feature request 
to the developer team, I wasn't sure where to post it. But I did 
mentioned in my opening post that it was cross posted and somebody 
could set the follow up to the "appropriate" group.


Thanks for the guidance! Now waiting for the first reply with a SV/Sv 
to see the preference do it's duty.


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Re: Intermittent incorrect favicon bug

[Rex]

Martin Freitag wrote:

Rex schrieb:



Can you give detailed intructions/sites to reproduce that?
regards

Martin


It's pretty intermittent,not with any particular sites. One time I had 5 
wikipedia tabs and 2 imdb.com tabs open, then I saw that all of them 
were showing the wikipedia favicon.


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Re: Bing as SM2 search engine preference

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 14/12/2009 02:53, JAS told the world:
> Is there a way to add Bing to the search engine preference so it can be
> set as default?

I'm not aware of any easy way to do that, no.

Currently Seamonkey only accepts search plugins in the old Sherlock
format; I think Bing is only available in the new OpenSearch format.

Unfortunately, the Mycroft Project has been delisting the Sherlock
plugins if there is an equivalent OpenSearch one. So, you can't even try
an old MSN or Live Search plugin to see if will work with Bing.

There's a bug open in Bugzilla - Bug 410613, on
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=410613
regarding exactly this problem.

As a workaround, you can use bookmark keywords. The procedure is as follows:

1. Create a bookmark for Bing (I prefer having a separate bookmark just
for this, so the "regular" Bing bookmark does not get the extra stuff).
2. Edit the bookmark, replacing the "location" line with
http://www.bing.com/search?q=%s
3. Add a keyword of your liking in the "Keyword" line. For instance,
"Bing" or even "b".

Now, if you type a line such as
bing applied phlebotinum
you will get the Bing search results for "applied phlebotinum"

The nice part of this is you can have several bookmarks, each one
related to a different search. For instance, I have the following:

Google:
http://www.google.com/search?q=%s
IMdB:
http://akas.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=%s
Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=%s


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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

[Hartmut Figge]

Arne:
>Hartmut Figge wrote:
>> Arne:

>>> Hope that is the right place?
>>
>> Perhaps. I don't know anything about Windows. But if the prefs.js is in
>> this directory, then it should be the right place.
>
>Yep, the prefs.js is there.

Fine. You could check with 'about:config' if the setting was successful.

But another point. Crossposting without Followup-To is evil. And in this
special case .planning should not have been included. The right group
for your question is .support.seamonkey.

f'2 mozilla.support.seamonkey

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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

[Arne]

Thomas Stache wrote:

On 14.12.2009 13:55, Arne wrote:

I could not find any existing user.js file in my Vista, so I created one
to
C:\Users\Arne\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ck0att16.default\


Hope that is the right place? As I believe the profiles for SM 1.1.18 is
on C:\Users\Arne\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Profiles\



A simpler way in Thunderbird 3:
Open the options/preferences window on the "Advanced tab" and click
"Config Editor" (or the corresponding translated term).


As I don't have TB, so that's not possible for me to do. But that 
editor could be useful also in SM.



Enter some letters to filter the list down to find the
"mailnews.localizedRe" preference. Double-click the row to edit the
value directly.


That preference was not available with SM before I created the user.js 
file. At least I could not find it.


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Re: Bing as SM2 search engine preference

[JAS]

JD wrote:
> JAS wrote:
>> Is there a way to add Bing to the search engine preference so it can be
>> set as default?
>>
>
> Because you use a deliminator on your sig file, it disappeared when I
> replied but I'll add it back for you:
>
> JAS's sig file:
>
> "You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you
> don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that
> you get at the hands of someone else."
>
> Now my response to your query:
>
> When you're on Bing, did you click on the "Make Bing Your Search
> Provider" in the upper right of the page? I haven't had much luck
> using Bing so I'm not going to click on it to see what happens.
>
> I'd be interested in your results of clicking there because sometime
> MS is not very friendly to other browsers.
>
> It's always been my opinion that dignity and respect are something you
> earn and that I'm not really responsible for mistreatment that I get
> at the hands of others. It's their problem, not mine. But that's just
> my opinion, please try to respect it and don't mistreat me.  8-)
>
How do I fix my sig? I clicked on "Make Bing Your Search Provider" and
nothing happened. I put a search topic in the address bar and hit search
and it brought up the google page.

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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

[Arne]

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Arne:


I could not find any existing user.js file in my Vista, so I created
one to
C:\Users\Arne\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ck0att16.default\



Hope that is the right place?


Perhaps. I don't know anything about Windows. But if the prefs.js is in
this directory, then it should be the right place.


Yep, the prefs.js is there.


Unless of course you use multiple profiles. ;)


Nope, one is enough. I'm creating a test profile when/if I need to 
solve any problems where a clean profile is useful. ;)



I could give a link to the German FAQ for profiles and user.js, but i
doubt that this would make you happy. *g*


Well, I don't know much German, but I manage to understand some. Some 
years ago I was even enable to talk with a Russian doctor when I need 
some medical care when visiting Russia. The doctor did not talk or 
understand English at all, but German fairly good. :D


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Re: Intermittent incorrect favicon bug

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 14/12/2009 03:05, Rex told the world:
> I've often seen this happen:
> Let's say I have tabs A,B,C in order. Each one displays its own favicon.
> I either open a 3rd tab adjacent to B(I use 'Tabs open relative') but 
> before C, or enter a new URL within B. Sometimes the favicon for C gets 
> replaced with the one for B.

I have noticed another, possibly related bug:
Some bookmarks somehow get the wrong favicon.

I didn't investigate the matter deeply, but I suspect it might have
something to do with the "aggressively look for website icons" feature
-- the one in which Seamonkey looks for a file named favicon.ico on the
website's root.

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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

[Hartmut Figge]

Thomas Stache:

>A simpler way in Thunderbird 3:
>Open the options/preferences window on the "Advanced tab" and click 
>"Config Editor" (or the corresponding translated term).

Or 'about:config' in the browser part of SM.

[...]
>("user.js" is something like a user-specific defaults file
>complementing prefs.js)

The user.js has the advantage, that changes are documented and even
comments are possible. And you can take the user.js to another profile
or another machine.

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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

[Thomas Stache]

On 14.12.2009 13:55, Arne wrote:

I could not find any existing user.js file in my Vista, so I created one
to
C:\Users\Arne\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ck0att16.default\

Hope that is the right place? As I believe the profiles for SM 1.1.18 is
on C:\Users\Arne\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Profiles\



A simpler way in Thunderbird 3:
Open the options/preferences window on the "Advanced tab" and click 
"Config Editor" (or the corresponding translated term).


Enter some letters to filter the list down to find the 
"mailnews.localizedRe" preference. Double-click the row to edit the 
value directly.


The value will be stored in your "prefs.js" file ("user.js" is something 
like a user-specific defaults file complementing prefs.js)

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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

[Hartmut Figge]

Arne:

>I could not find any existing user.js file in my Vista, so I created 
>one to 
>C:\Users\Arne\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ck0att16.default\ 

>Hope that is the right place?

Perhaps. I don't know anything about Windows. But if the prefs.js is in
this directory, then it should be the right place.

Unless of course you use multiple profiles. ;)

I could give a link to the German FAQ for profiles and user.js, but i
doubt that this would make you happy. *g*

Hartmut
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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

[Arne]

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Arne:

Hartmut Figge wrote:



- user.js -
user_pref("mailnews.localizedRe", "SV,Sv");
---


Thanks, but what does that do? I don't like my SM to use SV or Sv. Re:
is just fine and should be universally used. ;)


That replaces occurrences of 'SV' or 'Sv' with 'Re'. I am using the
similar Pref 'user_pref("mailnews.localizedRe", "AW,Aw");' because
especially OE tends to use AW or Aw - abbreviation of Antwort - here in
Germany.

I don't like Aw: Re: Aw: Aw: Re: :)


Aha, thanks!

I could not find any existing user.js file in my Vista, so I created 
one to 
C:\Users\Arne\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ck0att16.default\ 



Hope that is the right place? As I believe the profiles for SM 1.1.18 
is on C:\Users\Arne\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Profiles\


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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

[Hartmut Figge]

Arne:
>Hartmut Figge wrote:

>> - user.js -
>> user_pref("mailnews.localizedRe", "SV,Sv");
>> ---
>
>Thanks, but what does that do? I don't like my SM to use SV or Sv. Re: 
>is just fine and should be universally used. ;)

That replaces occurrences of 'SV' or 'Sv' with 'Re'. I am using the
similar Pref 'user_pref("mailnews.localizedRe", "AW,Aw");' because
especially OE tends to use AW or Aw - abbreviation of Antwort - here in
Germany.

I don't like Aw: Re: Aw: Aw: Re: :)

Hartmut
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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

[Arne]

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Arne:


As I said, I can see the point in threading By the "References" line
in the header. The backside of threading by subject is that when I
receive mails sent from mail programs (i.e. OE) "translated" to my
native language (Swedish) they may not thread correctly, since the
"Re:" is changed to "SV:". So the subject line can have a lot of "Re:
SV: Re: SV: after posting back and forth several times. ;)


- user.js -
user_pref("mailnews.localizedRe", "SV,Sv");
---


Thanks, but what does that do? I don't like my SM to use SV or Sv. Re: 
is just fine and should be universally used. ;)


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Re: Cookies

[Cedar]

Martin Freitag wrote:

Martin Freitag schrieb:

Cedar schrieb:


Actually, ya, I'm using FF now, and it's much better, although it does
suffer from some of the same symptoms. If I went back to SM 1.1.18,
would my mail folder survive intact?


SM2.0 has migrated your mails to a new profile, your old mails remain
untouched in your SM1.1.x profile.


PS: have you tried to reproduce hat behaviour in a new (secondary)
profile in SM2?

Martin


Yes, and if I remember right, initially it did seem to make some 
difference, but now it does not!

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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

[Hartmut Figge]

Arne:

>As I said, I can see the point in threading By the "References" line 
>in the header. The backside of threading by subject is that when I 
>receive mails sent from mail programs (i.e. OE) "translated" to my 
>native language (Swedish) they may not thread correctly, since the 
>"Re:" is changed to "SV:". So the subject line can have a lot of "Re: 
>SV: Re: SV: after posting back and forth several times. ;)

- user.js -
user_pref("mailnews.localizedRe", "SV,Sv");
---

Hartmut
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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

[Arne]

Neil wrote:

Arne wrote:


The mails with same subject that are not reply's has of course not any
reference.


If you want to thread mails by subject you need to turn off the
mail.strict_threading preference. If the replies don't begin with Re:
then you will also need to turn on the mail.thread_without_re
preference. After using about:config to change these preferences you
will need to restart; then you can rebuild the summary file to rethread
the messages.



Thank you Neil, now it works as I intended. Of course, that change in 
about:config is "global" for all mail accounts. Wish it could be set 
per account.


As I said, I can see the point in threading By the "References" line 
in the header. The backside of threading by subject is that when I 
receive mails sent from mail programs (i.e. OE) "translated" to my 
native language (Swedish) they may not thread correctly, since the 
"Re:" is changed to "SV:". So the subject line can have a lot of "Re: 
SV: Re: SV: after posting back and forth several times. ;)


But at least now I'll see what option is more inconvenient in a long 
view, and can change it back if I want to.


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Re: Intermittent incorrect favicon bug

[Martin Freitag]

Rex schrieb:

I've often seen this happen:
Let's say I have tabs A,B,C in order. Each one displays its own favicon.
I either open a 3rd tab adjacent to B(I use 'Tabs open relative') but
before C, or enter a new URL within B. Sometimes the favicon for C gets
replaced with the one for B.

-
An error? Impossible! My modem is error correcting.
-



Can you give detailed intructions/sites to reproduce that?
regards

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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

[Neil]

Arne wrote:

The mails with same subject that are not reply's has of course not any 
reference.


If you want to thread mails by subject you need to turn off the 
mail.strict_threading preference. If the replies don't begin with Re: 
then you will also need to turn on the mail.thread_without_re 
preference. After using about:config to change these preferences you 
will need to restart; then you can rebuild the summary file to rethread 
the messages.


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Re: Cookies

[Martin Freitag]

Martin Freitag schrieb:

Cedar schrieb:


Actually, ya, I'm using FF now, and it's much better, although it does
suffer from some of the same symptoms. If I went back to SM 1.1.18,
would my mail folder survive intact?


SM2.0 has migrated your mails to a new profile, your old mails remain
untouched in your SM1.1.x profile.


PS: have you tried to reproduce hat behaviour in a new (secondary) 
profile in SM2?


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Re: Cookies

[Martin Freitag]

Cedar schrieb:


Actually, ya, I'm using FF now, and it's much better, although it does
suffer from some of the same symptoms. If I went back to SM 1.1.18,
would my mail folder survive intact?


SM2.0 has migrated your mails to a new profile, your old mails remain 
untouched in your SM1.1.x profile.


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Re: Cookies

[Cedar]

chicagofan wrote:

Cedar wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Cedar wrote:

Martin Freitag wrote:

Cedar schrieb:

On a dialup connection, would it be normal to suffer extreme
slowdowns
and pauses in the internet connection because of blocking cookies?


Nope.



Really!? What then? This is in the extreme...I have had to give
up on my favorite browser! What could possibly be doing this?


Have you tested it by allowing cookies and seeing if the slowdown goes
away?



Yes, now I have, and no, it makes no difference. I've tried lots of
different things like using the default profile, safe mode, making a new
profile, played around with various cookie settings, nothing seems to
help.



Any chance this is just seasonal traffic increase due to Christmas
shoppers online? I remember when I was on dial up with AT&T, December
was always a miserable month for me. However, that was a long time ago,
so things may have improved since then.
bj


Well, in general, I doubt if things have improved for us poor ol' 
"dialupers", and of course, will not improve any further as its 
basically a dead technology.  But, no, it can't be the Christmas 
thingit's just way too extreme for that, and I've never noticed that 
before on ours, actually.  Since FF seems to be working quite well, and 
the, ugh..."other browser" just flies through it all, it's obviously 
something with sm, unfortunately.  Oh well, I guess we can survive with 
FF until/if SM's next version improves things.

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Re: Cookies

[Cedar]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Cedar wrote:


Leonidas Jones wrote:


Have you tested it by allowing cookies and seeing if the slowdown
goes away?

Lee


Yes, now I have, and no, it makes no difference. I've tried lots of
different things like using the default profile, safe mode, making a
new profile, played around with various cookie settings, nothing
seems to help.


In that case, why are you fixating on cookies as opposed to all the
other possibilities? It comes across as a witch hunt, not a search for
truth.

Uh, sorry, didn't realize I was fixating...and ya, I guess it is a 
"witch hunt" since I have not the knowledge of these things to do a 
proper, sequentially structured search.

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Re: Cookies

[Cedar]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Cedar wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Cedar wrote:

Martin Freitag wrote:

Cedar schrieb:

/snip/

Have you tested it by allowing cookies and seeing if the slowdown goes
away?

Lee


Yes, now I have, and no, it makes no difference. I've tried lots of
different things like using the default profile, safe mode, making a new
profile, played around with various cookie settings, nothing seems to
help.


Well, I suppose you could try reverting to SM 1.1.18, and see if it
clears up. Do you have Firefox installed, does it behave better?

Lee


Actually, ya, I'm using FF now, and it's much better, although it does 
suffer from some of the same symptoms.  If I went back to SM 1.1.18, 
would my mail folder survive intact?

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