Re: Seamonkey2.0.2 and debian 64 bit, no flashplayer

2010-01-24 Thread Rod Lovett

Hi
I installed seamonkey 2.0.2 in Debian Lenny 64 bit, and it runs, so- 
is it both 32 and 64 bit compatible.
However it will not run the 64 bit libflashplayer.so file downloaded 
from adobe in the plugins folder as the 32 bit seamonkey will with the 
32 bit file.

I then tried the 32 bit libflashplayer.so, and seamonkey promptly crashed.
I looked on the seamonkey website but nothing terribly helfpul revealed 
itself.
 So I wonder how to get 64 bit flash working, or even 64 bit java going 
or is this still a work in progress. Would symlinks help.

Any non MS folk have any ideas I wonder?
Regards
Rod
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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-24 Thread Daniel

Phillip Jones wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 1/23/2010 2:22 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I am under WindowsXP SP3 with SM2.0.2
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100104 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.2

For a newsgroup, i have positionned to Mark As Read
Applying filter when: Checking Mail or Manually Run
Match any of the following:
From contains j...@lion.org
From contains j...@lion.org
From contains jmBjmB@lion.org
From contains jmBjmB@Lion.org

And the posts are still marked as Not Read

Any idea to solve this issue ?



Perhaps the Message filters works only if the newsgroup have the
optionSelect this newsgroup for offline use set ?

Could someone confirm ?


That is not true. I use message filters on news groups and do not
have them set for off-line use.

Unless things have improved in SM 2.0 in previous versions filters were
useless on newsgroups (won't even set post to be marked as read.) And at
one time when people asked about it we were told that filters don't work
in News.



Phillip, I used filters extensively on my Usenet groups to get rid of 
spam type messages that had been posted to multiple groups (SM on 
Win98, though I don't think it mattered).


All I could say was WFM

Daniel
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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-24 Thread Ray_Net

Daniel wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 1/23/2010 2:22 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I am under WindowsXP SP3 with SM2.0.2
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100104 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.2

For a newsgroup, i have positionned to Mark As Read
Applying filter when: Checking Mail or Manually Run
Match any of the following:
From contains j...@lion.org
From contains j...@lion.org
From contains jmBjmB@lion.org
From contains jmBjmB@Lion.org

And the posts are still marked as Not Read

Any idea to solve this issue ?



Perhaps the Message filters works only if the newsgroup have the
optionSelect this newsgroup for offline use set ?

Could someone confirm ?


That is not true. I use message filters on news groups and do not
have them set for off-line use.

Unless things have improved in SM 2.0 in previous versions filters were
useless on newsgroups (won't even set post to be marked as read.) And at
one time when people asked about it we were told that filters don't work
in News.



Phillip, I used filters extensively on my Usenet groups to get rid of
spam type messages that had been posted to multiple groups (SM on
Win98, though I don't think it mattered).

All I could say was WFM

Daniel


Could you post all the parameters for one filter that work ?
I still cannot succeed.
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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-24 Thread Mark Hansen
On 1/23/2010 5:27 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
 Mark Hansen wrote:
 That is not true. I use message filters on news groups and do not
 have them set for off-line use.
 Unless things have improved in SM 2.0 in previous versions filters were 
 useless on newsgroups (won't even set post to be marked as read.) And at 
 one time when people asked about it  we were told that filters don't 
 work in News.
 

That is not true. I'm using SM 1.1.16 at the moment, but I've been using
filters for News for years.
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SM2.02 - Browser and Email Windows Freeze

2010-01-24 Thread JVH
I have SM 2.0.2 running under Win XP.  Now that the problem with email 
address freeze-ups (SM2.0 and SM 2.0.1) is solved I have a new, and 
worse, bug.  I can use the mouse cursor once or twice in the email or 
browser window, and then they all lock up.  I have to click to activate 
a window in another app, and that frees up SeaMonkey for another couple 
of mouse clicks.  Typing text in SeaMonkey is no problem.  This is 
making SM such a pain I'm considering junking it in favour of another 
browser/email client.


JVH
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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-24 Thread chicagofan

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 1/23/2010 5:27 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

That is not true. I use message filters on news groups and do not
have them set for off-line use.

Unless things have improved in SM 2.0 in previous versions filters were
useless on newsgroups (won't even set post to be marked as read.) And at
one time when people asked about it  we were told that filters don't
work in News.



That is not true. I'm using SM 1.1.16 at the moment, but I've been using
filters for News for years.



I don't know what he was told or misunderstood, but I'm using 2.02 now, 
and I've never had any version of SM mail or newsgroup filters to fail 
for me.


SM lacked the ability to filter cross-postings for a long awhile, but we 
even have that feature now.

There is something lacking in communication here it seems.
bj  


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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-24 Thread Phillip Jones

chicagofan wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 1/23/2010 5:27 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

That is not true. I use message filters on news groups and do not
have them set for off-line use.

Unless things have improved in SM 2.0 in previous versions filters were
useless on newsgroups (won't even set post to be marked as read.) And at
one time when people asked about it  we were told that filters don't
work in News.



That is not true. I'm using SM 1.1.16 at the moment, but I've been using
filters for News for years.



I don't know what he was told or misunderstood, but I'm using 2.02 now,
and I've never had any version of SM mail or newsgroup filters to fail
for me.

SM lacked the ability to filter cross-postings for a long awhile, but we
even have that feature now.
There is something lacking in communication here it seems.
bj  


I never could get filtering working in SM 1.1.8. I kept trying as I 
upgraded from version to version. I realize you can only set to mark as 
read (if you don't download for reading later). Never did get working. I 
haven't tried in 2.0 SM as I haven't had the need.


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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-24 Thread Ray_Net

Phillip Jones wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 1/23/2010 5:27 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

That is not true. I use message filters on news groups and do not
have them set for off-line use.

Unless things have improved in SM 2.0 in previous versions filters were
useless on newsgroups (won't even set post to be marked as read.)
And at
one time when people asked about it we were told that filters don't
work in News.



That is not true. I'm using SM 1.1.16 at the moment, but I've been using
filters for News for years.



I don't know what he was told or misunderstood, but I'm using 2.02 now,
and I've never had any version of SM mail or newsgroup filters to fail
for me.

SM lacked the ability to filter cross-postings for a long awhile, but we
even have that feature now.
There is something lacking in communication here it seems.
bj



I never could get filtering working in SM 1.1.8. I kept trying as I
upgraded from version to version. I realize you can only set to mark as
read (if you don't download for reading later). Never did get working. I
haven't tried in 2.0 SM as I haven't had the need.


Same for me, i am unable to get filter working - i just test one last  case:
Mark as read for Match all messages: All the messages were marked as 
read - Except one -  therefore not working as it should.


The people saying that it works for newsgroup would ne kind to post 
here their filters-parameters, so i can test ...

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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-24 Thread Bernard Mercier
Phillip Jones a utilisé son clavier pour écrire :
 chicagofan wrote:
 Mark Hansen wrote:
 On 1/23/2010 5:27 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
 Mark Hansen wrote:
 That is not true. I use message filters on news groups and do not
 have them set for off-line use.
 Unless things have improved in SM 2.0 in previous versions filters were
 useless on newsgroups (won't even set post to be marked as read.) And at
 one time when people asked about it  we were told that filters don't
 work in News.


 That is not true. I'm using SM 1.1.16 at the moment, but I've been using
 filters for News for years.


 I don't know what he was told or misunderstood, but I'm using 2.02 now,
 and I've never had any version of SM mail or newsgroup filters to fail
 for me.

 SM lacked the ability to filter cross-postings for a long awhile, but we
 even have that feature now.
 There is something lacking in communication here it seems.
 bj   


 I never could get filtering working in SM 1.1.8. I kept trying as I 
 upgraded from version to version. I realize you can only set to mark as 
 read (if you don't download for reading later). Never did get working. I 
 haven't tried in 2.0 SM as I haven't had the need.
SM 1.1.8?

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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-24 Thread Leonidas Jones

Daniel wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 1/23/2010 2:22 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

/snip/

Unless things have improved in SM 2.0 in previous versions filters were
useless on newsgroups (won't even set post to be marked as read.) And at
one time when people asked about it we were told that filters don't work
in News.



Phillip, I used filters extensively on my Usenet groups to get rid of
spam type messages that had been posted to multiple groups (SM on
Win98, though I don't think it mattered).

All I could say was WFM

Daniel


Filtering is more limited in News, but I have no problem with filters 
working, ever, in SeaMonkey, any version.


Lee
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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-24 Thread NoOp
On 01/24/2010 12:22 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
...

 Same for me, i am unable to get filter working - i just test one last  case:
 Mark as read for Match all messages: All the messages were marked as 
 read - Except one -  therefore not working as it should.
 
 The people saying that it works for newsgroup would ne kind to post 
 here their filters-parameters, so i can test ...

Here is one for this newsgroup. It checks for users that are posting via
the list vs nntp and automatically tags the header as 'Work' (yellow) so
that I can tell the list posters:

name=Delivered-To Test
enabled=yes
type=20
action=AddTag
actionValue=$label2
condition=AND
(\delivered-to\,contains,support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org)

The file is located in:
/News/news.mozilla.org/mozilla.support.seamonkey.dat

Last one logged was:
Applied filter Delivered-To Test to message from Rod Lovett
rodlov...@ozemail.com.au - Seamonkey2.0.2 and debian 64 bit, no
flashplayer at 01/24/2010 01:06:57 AM tagged

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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-24 Thread Leonidas Jones

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 1/23/2010 2:22 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I am under WindowsXP SP3 with SM2.0.2
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100104 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.2

For a newsgroup, i have positionned to Mark As Read
Applying filter when: Checking Mail or Manually Run
Match any of the following:
From contains j...@lion.org
From contains j...@lion.org
From contains jmBjmB@lion.org
From contains jmBjmB@Lion.org

And the posts are still marked as Not Read

Any idea to solve this issue ?



Perhaps the Message filters works only if the newsgroup have the
optionSelect this newsgroup for offline use set ?

Could someone confirm ?


That is not true. I use message filters on news groups and do not
have them set for off-line use.

Unless things have improved in SM 2.0 in previous versions filters were
useless on newsgroups (won't even set post to be marked as read.) And at
one time when people asked about it we were told that filters don't work
in News.



Phillip, I used filters extensively on my Usenet groups to get rid of
spam type messages that had been posted to multiple groups (SM on
Win98, though I don't think it mattered).

All I could say was WFM

Daniel


Could you post all the parameters for one filter that work ?
I still cannot succeed.


Here is a filter to mark posts as read from a particularly problematic user.

Name of filter is his email address.

Apply filter when, Checking Mail or Manually run is selected.

Match all the following is selected.


From  is(email address) all selecetd an filled in.

Perform this action,  Mark as Read is selected.

The filter performs exactly as advertised.

I have numerous other filters that also behave as intended.

Lee


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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-24 Thread Leonidas Jones

Ray_Net wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 1/23/2010 5:27 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

/snip/



Same for me, i am unable to get filter working - i just test one last case:
Mark as read for Match all messages: All the messages were marked as
read - Except one - therefore not working as it should.

The people saying that it works for newsgroup would ne kind to post
here their filters-parameters, so i can test ...


Okay, you do realize that newsgroup filters will not work retroactively? 
 Only new messages will be acted upon by the filters.


Lee
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Re: Multiple profiles in different user areas Win XP

2010-01-24 Thread Daniel

Lance Courtland wrote:

I have not been able to keep up with this forum for 3 months, so please
excuse the repetition if the question has been answered.

Has the problem of upgrading from SM 1.18 to 2.2 with multiple profiles
in different user areas in Win XP Pro been solved? Last time I tried to
upgrade to SM 2.0 the profiles never upgraded right, and it took me
hours to uninstall 2.0 and reinstall 1.8. I don't want to do that again.

TIA

Lance


Lance, you mention the last time I tried to upgrade.. This implies 
to me that this was a second (or more) attempt to upgrade. If this is 
the case, be careful, because when you first tried SM 2.x.x, it would 
have made a copy of your SM 1.1.x profile, and then you may have deleted 
SM 2.x.x (but not removed this copy of the profile). Then, when you 
re-installed SM 2.x.x, it would have picked up this old, un-up-to-date 
(if that's English??), version of your profile. And when you, now, 
re-install SM 2.x.x, it will again pick up this old profile, i.e. before 
you re-install SM 2, delete the copy of your profile. *Be Careful*.


At this stage SM 2.x.x will only pick up your default profile, which can 
be a problem, but the work-around is fairly simple...in the new SM, 
create the extra profiles, in their simplest, then copy/move the folders 
over from your SM 1.1.18 profile.


HTH

Daniel
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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-24 Thread chicagofan

Ray_Net wrote:

I am under WindowsXP SP3 with SM2.0.2
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100104 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.2

For a newsgroup, i have positionned to Mark As Read
Applying filter when: Checking Mail or Manually Run
Match any of the following:
  From contains j...@lion.org
  From contains j...@lion.org
  From contains jmBjmB@lion.org
   From contains jmBjmB@Lion.org

And the posts are still marked as Not Read

Any idea to solve this issue ?



I've just realized that I have never set a Mark as Read filter on an 
individual, because I always just *delete* all messages from people 
whose posts I do not wish to read.


I have now set a couple of tests on 2 people in different newsgroups to 
mark as read their posts, to see how SM behaves.   Will come back when 
I see the results.  [I have the log set to record the filters on one 
group... the other group is too large.]


Any chance you would just give us the newsgroup in which this individual 
posts, so that we could try the *exact* filters you are attempting?

bj








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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-24 Thread Phillip Jones

Bernard Mercier wrote:

Phillip Jones a utilisé son clavier pour écrire :

chicagofan wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 1/23/2010 5:27 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

That is not true. I use message filters on news groups and do not
have them set for off-line use.

Unless things have improved in SM 2.0 in previous versions filters were
useless on newsgroups (won't even set post to be marked as read.) And at
one time when people asked about it  we were told that filters don't
work in News.



That is not true. I'm using SM 1.1.16 at the moment, but I've been using
filters for News for years.



I don't know what he was told or misunderstood, but I'm using 2.02 now,
and I've never had any version of SM mail or newsgroup filters to fail
for me.

SM lacked the ability to filter cross-postings for a long awhile, but we
even have that feature now.
There is something lacking in communication here it seems.
bj  



I never could get filtering working in SM 1.1.8. I kept trying as I
upgraded from version to version. I realize you can only set to mark as
read (if you don't download for reading later). Never did get working. I
haven't tried in 2.0 SM as I haven't had the need.

SM 1.1.8?


SM = SeaMonkey
FF = FireFox
TB = ThunderBird

Should have been 1.1.18  Sorry
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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-24 Thread Mark Hansen
On 1/24/2010 4:29 PM, chicagofan wrote:
 Ray_Net wrote:
 I am under WindowsXP SP3 with SM2.0.2
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
 rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100104 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.2

 For a newsgroup, i have positionned to Mark As Read
 Applying filter when: Checking Mail or Manually Run
 Match any of the following:
   From contains j...@lion.org
   From contains j...@lion.org
   From contains jmBjmB@lion.org
From contains jmBjmB@Lion.org

 And the posts are still marked as Not Read

 Any idea to solve this issue ?
 
 
 I've just realized that I have never set a Mark as Read filter on an 
 individual, because I always just *delete* all messages from people 
 whose posts I do not wish to read.
 
 I have now set a couple of tests on 2 people in different newsgroups to 
 mark as read their posts, to see how SM behaves.   Will come back when 
 I see the results.  [I have the log set to record the filters on one 
 group... the other group is too large.]
 
 Any chance you would just give us the newsgroup in which this individual 
 posts, so that we could try the *exact* filters you are attempting?
 bj
 

Why not create a filter on mozilla.test, then post there with anything you
want to test?
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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-24 Thread chicagofan

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 1/24/2010 4:29 PM, chicagofan wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I am under WindowsXP SP3 with SM2.0.2
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100104 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.2

For a newsgroup, i have positionned to Mark As Read
Applying filter when: Checking Mail or Manually Run
Match any of the following:
   From contains j...@lion.org
   From contains j...@lion.org
   From contains jmBjmB@lion.org
 From contains jmBjmB@Lion.org

And the posts are still marked as Not Read

Any idea to solve this issue ?



I've just realized that I have never set a Mark as Read filter on an
individual, because I always just *delete* all messages from people
whose posts I do not wish to read.

I have now set a couple of tests on 2 people in different newsgroups to
mark as read their posts, to see how SM behaves.   Will come back when
I see the results.  [I have the log set to record the filters on one
group... the other group is too large.]

Any chance you would just give us the newsgroup in which this individual
posts, so that we could try the *exact* filters you are attempting?
bj



Why not create a filter on mozilla.test, then post there with anything you
want to test?



I wanted to test some *individuals* as he is trying to do, and I've just 
gotten the results, when reading that newsgroup a few minutes ago.   The 
individual's name used in one group posted 4 messages since I set up my 
filter to mark her messages read.


They did not show, because I have my groups set to show ONLY UNREAD.  So 
I switched to show ALL, and there they were marked READ... just as 
my message filter log said they were.  :)


I thought that might help Ray communicate what is different for him.
bj


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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-24 Thread NoOp
On 01/24/2010 05:47 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
...
 I never could get filtering working in SM 1.1.8. I kept trying as I
 upgraded from version to version. I realize you can only set to mark as
 read (if you don't download for reading later). Never did get working. I
 haven't tried in 2.0 SM as I haven't had the need.
 SM 1.1.8?

 SM = SeaMonkey
 FF = FireFox
 TB = ThunderBird
 
 Should have been 1.1.18  Sorry

Firefox = Fx
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/releases/1.5.html
quote
8. How do I capitalize Firefox? How do I abbreviate it?

Only the first letter is capitalized (so it's Firefox, not FireFox.) The
preferred abbreviation is Fx or fx.
/quote
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Re: Possible minor bug

2010-01-24 Thread Leonidas Jones

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Yes it turns out the theme I was using was the fault. which was the
Orbit 3+1 2.0 is the fault.


Please contact the theme author about that, I'm sure he's happy about
bug reports and willing to fix them in further releases.


Looks I can't find an outside Theme other
than the two SeaMonkey themes that work right.


The quite unusual-looking LCARStrek theme and the EarlyBlue theme should
both work fine - but I guess they don't provide quite the look you qant
to have ;-)

Robert Kaiser


LCARStrek is, indeed, an acquired taste, but I have acquired it, and it 
works very well.


Early Blue is a very nice basic theme.  My mother in law really likes it.

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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-24 Thread Leonidas Jones

NoOp wrote:

On 01/24/2010 05:47 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
...

/snip/

Firefox = Fx
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/releases/1.5.html
quote
8. How do I capitalize Firefox? How do I abbreviate it?

Only the first letter is capitalized (so it's Firefox, not FireFox.) The
preferred abbreviation is Fx or fx.
/quote


I'll never be able to go with that. Too many tho0ughts of special 
effects, it just doesn't compute.  Firefox, FF it just makes more sense.


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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-24 Thread Hartmut Figge
Ray_Net:

[Filter not working]
Any idea to solve this issue ?

Post to mozilla.test so that we have an example to play with.

Hartmut
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