e-mail send performance
Hi I am using SM 2.04 for e-mail on Vista. When I send largish e-mails (say 3Mb) the CPU usage jumps to close to 100% and really slows down my machine (and my ADSL is quite slow, so the machine is slow for a while). I am using ESET AV but I think it is innocent, the 100% is pretty much split between SM and the system. Known issue? Any remedy? Thanks Alex ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: e-mail send performance
Alex Strickland wrote: I am using SM 2.04 for e-mail on Vista. When I send largish e-mails (say 3Mb) the CPU usage jumps to close to 100% and really slows down my machine (and my ADSL is quite slow, so the machine is slow for a while). I am using ESET AV but I think it is innocent, the 100% is pretty much split between SM and the system. Known issue? Any remedy? Does it perform normally when you don't scan Incoming and Outgoing email with your a-v? It is not necessary. http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm Leave the resident portion of the a-v running, of course. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sites inaccessible via seamonkey
On Apr 30, 7:24 pm, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: Russ Hunt wrote: Well. I have general.useragent.extra.firefox set to NOT Firefox/3.6. See if that helps you. -JW Hm. I haven't been able to find out where that is. How do I set that? in SM browser, type the url about:config then enter a New string: general.useragent.extra.firefox then set this string equal to: NOT Firefox/3.6 Thanks; this solved the problem -- and another that developed later with a site that didn't respond to SeaMonkey, and did to Firefox. But I think it's worth noting that unless SeaMonkey can be configured so as to avoid this without this pretty obscure individual fix, it's going to go the way of Netscape and Mozilla, because people will decide that they have to use IE or Firefox to avoid this sort of thing occurring more frequently. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
MASTER PASSWORD OVER KILL !
Aloha! There is something very wrong with SeaMonkey 2.04, or my installation is somehow badly screwed up! Initially, it asked for our Master Password at logon, which I disabled in about:config. But... subsequently, it asks for the Master Password when: downloading e- mail, accessing any one of our credit accounts, accessing banking accounts, making auto payments, paying for our internet service, on and on, even wants a Master Password to get on MozzilaZine !!! Real bother and we're using Master Password so often...might as well not have one. This past week, we had to hire a temporary book keeper because ours was out sick. The first day we had to be out of the office; came back to find one very frustrated woman! She couldn't access anything she need to on the internet because she didn't have the Master Password. Cost me $$ for the day -- upsetting, to say the least. All our accounts are user name/password protected. Adding the Master Password is overkill, useless and absurd. I've told everyone to uninstall 2.04 and put 1.18 back on until we can get some fix for this. Is there any way to disable all these requests for a Master Password ??? --- Another issue I've been seeing recently is that 2.04 starts slowing down the longer I've been on the Internet, to the point that it can't connect to web sites, like Yahoo News, for example. Tried shutting down and restarting, same issue. Meanwhile, 1.1.18 works like a charm...all the time. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Subject: Re: phishing
I never posted the contents of my email address book on Facebook. I didn't not give it away, it was taken from me and I want to know what I can do to stop it from happening again. I have a firewall, I have scanned my computer twice yesterday with both McAfee and a Microsoft Windows program and nothing was found. My computer is three weeks old and I have never been on Facebook with it. Since you've apparently posted the contents of your email address book on Facebook, what kind of protection could there be? You've already given it away. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento, CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: phishing?
I think I am using the wrong term. My address book has been compromised and spam emails have been sent to everyone in it looking like they came from me but they didn't. Dephine phished. If you mean some bozo sent a message trying to scam you but you didn't bite, no big deal, everybody gets those now and then, some more than others. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento, CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
QuickTime plugin disappears after upgrading QuickTime
I was viewing the QuickTime plugin with SeaMonkey 2.0.4, and QT prompted me to update it. I did OK the update, QT downloaded and installed, shut down SeaMonkey, and now I have no QT plugin. This is on Windows Vista 64-bit. Is there any way of restoring the QuickTime plugin? This same thing, by the way, happened with Firefox -- the plugin was working, but after the update to QT I am offered to download QuickTime! Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Subject: Re: phishing
Pat Connors a écrit : I have a firewall, I have scanned my computer twice yesterday with both McAfee and a Microsoft Windows program and nothing was found. My computer is three weeks old and I have never been on Facebook with it. Maybe McAfee didn't catch that specific trojan. Try Malwarebytes and Spybot, as has been suggested previously. They don't search for the same things as antivirus software. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sites inaccessible via seamonkey
On 5/13/10 5:43 AM, Russ Hunt wrote: On Apr 30, 7:24 pm, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: Russ Hunt wrote: Well. I have general.useragent.extra.firefox set to NOT Firefox/3.6. See if that helps you. -JW Hm. I haven't been able to find out where that is. How do I set that? in SM browser, type the url about:config then enter a New string: general.useragent.extra.firefox then set this string equal to: NOT Firefox/3.6 Thanks; this solved the problem -- and another that developed later with a site that didn't respond to SeaMonkey, and did to Firefox. But I think it's worth noting that unless SeaMonkey can be configured so as to avoid this without this pretty obscure individual fix, it's going to go the way of Netscape and Mozilla, because people will decide that they have to use IE or Firefox to avoid this sort of thing occurring more frequently. The problem is not in SeaMonkey. The pronblem is that some Web servers deliver different Web pages based on what browser you are using, detecting your browser by what is called sniffing. Further, many servers sniff incorrectly, looking for Firefox when they should look for Gecko. What you have done is make those servers think you are using Firefox. This is called spoofing. By spoofing, you are compounding the problem by not telling other servers that SeaMonkey is not being used. This will eventually lead to other Web developers to think that there is no need to provide for SeaMonkey when they sniff. This puts all SeaMonkey users at a disadvantage. The proper way to address this problem requires three actions: 1. Use an extension that allows you to spoof another browser when necessary but also eliminates spoofing at other times. Such extensions include PrefBar and UserAgentSwitcher. They automatically eliminate spoofing whenever you launch SeaMonkey. 2. Contact the owner of Web sites that work with Firefox but not with SeaMonkey. Inform them that they are blocking the use of Gecko-based browsers that are not Firefox. Refer them to http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Sardisson/Gecko_is_Gecko and thus losing potential audience. 3. File a Tech Evangelism bug report at bugzilla.mozilla.org. If you don't have an account there, creating a new account is easy. If the whole thing seems too daunting, post a reply here to ask someone else to file the bug report. For an explanation of sniffing, see my http://www.rossde.com/internet/Webdevelopers.html#sniff. For an explanation of spoofing, see my http://www.rossde.com/internet/intr_gloss.html#spoof. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MASTER PASSWORD OVER KILL !
JOLAN1 wrote: Aloha! There is something very wrong with SeaMonkey 2.04, or my installation is somehow badly screwed up! Initially, it asked for our Master Password at logon, which I disabled in about:config. But... subsequently, it asks for the Master Password when: downloading e- mail, accessing any one of our credit accounts, accessing banking accounts, making auto payments, paying for our internet service, on and on, even wants a Master Password to get on MozzilaZine !!! Real bother and we're using Master Password so often...might as well not have one. This past week, we had to hire a temporary book keeper because ours was out sick. The first day we had to be out of the office; came back to find one very frustrated woman! She couldn't access anything she need to on the internet because she didn't have the Master Password. Cost me $$ for the day -- upsetting, to say the least. All our accounts are user name/password protected. Adding the Master Password is overkill, useless and absurd. I've told everyone to uninstall 2.04 and put 1.18 back on until we can get some fix for this. Is there any way to disable all these requests for a Master Password ??? Interesting... I downloaded the first off version of 2.x back when it was only a few days old. Your experience mirrors what I found, and essentially everybody passes that off as ‘not a problem.’ Well, I thought it WAS a problem, so I promptly dumped SM 2.x and want back to 1.1.18, where I am now. I swore I would not return to any SM 2.x version until someone fixed that nasty annoyance. It seems that so far they haven’t... Thanks for the heads up, keith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Subject: Re: phishing
Pat Connors wrote: [Beauregard wrote:] Since you've apparently posted the contents of your email address book on Facebook, what kind of protection could there be? You've already given it away. I never posted the contents of my email address book on Facebook. I didn't not give it away, it was taken from me and I want to know what I can do to stop it from happening again. I have a firewall, I have scanned my computer twice yesterday with both McAfee and a Microsoft Windows program and nothing was found. My computer is three weeks old and I have never been on Facebook with it. Well, in one of your other messages, you said, but I believe my Address Book got compromised on Facebook - which would imply that there was some connection between your problem and that site. You also said (in I believe your first post), The first time it happened was about a month ago on *my old computer* after I was on Facebook and then yesterday it happened again on *my new computer* - so the fact that you actually got a new computer makes trojans less likely. Maybe... I don't know what to suggest anymore (other than you should run the Malwarebytes Anti-Malware application as was suggested. It's free. Download, install, get latest update from web, run a full scan. http://www.malwarebytes.org/ Your threads are hard to follow, as you seem to be creating a new one nearly every time you post. Please, just reply instead. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: phishing
If your computer is that new, I would advise backing up all of your data files and re-installing your operating system. That is the simplest way to be sure that your computer is clean. You can put days into using different security software apps and never really be sure, or spend a few hours re-installing and get it over with. If you go that route, make sure you also make backups of all the installers you use to install apps on your computer (such as seamonkey, firefox, spybot SSD, etc). That way you won't have to download all kinds of stuff to get set up again. Make sure your backups are in a different partition, or on a different drive, than the operating system partition where you will re-install. If you are not behind a firewall router, then I would recommend software like zone alarm internet security suite. I don't consider mcafee to be all that good. ZAISS will give you a top level software firewall, AV, spyware, etc, all in one place and let you monitor every connection from your computer to the outside world. Mark S. Beaulieu wrote: Pat Connors a écrit : I have a firewall, I have scanned my computer twice yesterday with both McAfee and a Microsoft Windows program and nothing was found. My computer is three weeks old and I have never been on Facebook with it. Maybe McAfee didn't catch that specific trojan. Try Malwarebytes and Spybot, as has been suggested previously. They don't search for the same things as antivirus software. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MASTER PASSWORD OVER KILL !
Keith Whaley a écrit : I swore I would not return to any SM 2.x version until someone fixed that nasty annoyance. It seems that so far they haven’t... Because no fix is needed since everything works as it's meant to. To stop the successive requests, simply change the master password to nothing (i.e. leave the field empty). S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
re: phishing
I really want to thank all for the help you are giving me. Download the free version fromhttp://www.malwarebytes.org/ and run it ASAP. This is probably the best free programs available to detect and remove any unwanted files on your pc. I did this and this is the 3rd scan in less than 24 hours that I have done (McAfee, Windows Security) and this one took the longest (over 2 hours) and scanned over 275,000 files and I really feel it was the most complete. None of them found anything. Remember this is a brand new computer. I am confident their is no virus/worm on my computer. I think what happened is that on my last visit to Facebook, with the old computer, my address book was compromised. Part of Facebook's program is to send an email to everyone in your Address Book an invitation to join you on Facebook. When I first got on the program, I elected not to do this. However, they changed their interface and an I think I clicked on something on the new interface that opened up that option, ripe to the spam programs that have plagued Facebook. I have not been on Facebook since my last visit and the next day was when the first spam emails were sent out in my name to some of the addresses in my Address Book. This last time the spam emails went to everyone in my Address Book. I just want this to not happen again. I think I am going to have to go back to Facebook and close out the account so no one can get on my page. Thanks again to all who have tried to help me. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento, CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Message filters and Seamonkey 2
I have just upgraded another Seamonkey 1.1.8 to 2.0.4 (this time under Mac OS X 10.4) and again had it fail to import any of my (extensive list) of message filters. Is there any way to get these into Seamonkey 2? I do have the Message Filter Import/Export extension installed in SM 1.1.8 and have used it in the past to move my filters between my work and home systems but said extension does not support SM 2 (it will not install) and the Tools-Import... will not import from a file but only from another mail client (in my case only Eudora shows up but I never installed or used). This issue is holding up moving my standard SM that I use daily from 1.1.8 to 2.0.4 so I am really looking for help/pointers to help. -- = Dr. Frank J. Nagy[Applied Scientist] = Fermilab Computing Division/Central Services and Infrastructure = Authentication, Directory and Messaging Services = n...@fnal.gov (Alt: f.n...@sbcglobal.net) = Web page: http://home.fnal.gov/~nagy/ = Feynman Computing FCC358 630-840-4935 FAX 840-6345 = USnail: Fermilab POB 500 MS/369 Batavia, IL 60510 = ICBM: 40d 51m 34s N, 88d 12d 29d W, 651 ft ASL + This seat. It warms your ass. Wonderful. -- Dr. Bishop ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey - Win7 Premium 64-Bit - Flash Player
I found a good deal on a Win7 Premium 64-Bit machine and wondering about SM running on it and Flash Player. There is no 64-Bit Flash Player yet and wondering if SM will fit the bill both on 64-Bit and Flash ... Thanks, Jay ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: phishing
support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote: If you are not behind a firewall router, then I would recommend software like zone alarm internet security suite. I don't consider mcafee to be all that good. ZAISS will give you a top level software firewall, AV, spyware, etc, all in one place and let you monitor every connection from your computer to the outside world. Thanks for the help. I have Zone Alarm on my old computer and have a subscription to it so will get that going again on this new one. I am confident that I don't have anything on my computer causing the problem now that I have scanned it 3 times in 24 hours by 3 different programs. I think it is Facebook. I went into it again for the first time and changed my password which is what Facebook suggested. My next step is to take my page down and get out of Facebook completely. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento, CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MASTER PASSWORD OVER KILL !
S. Beaulieu wrote: Keith Whaley a écrit : I swore I would not return to any SM 2.x version until someone fixed that nasty annoyance. It seems that so far they haven’t... Because no fix is needed since everything works as it's meant to. To stop the successive requests, simply change the master password to nothing (i.e. leave the field empty). S. ...man, do I hate the thought of that working - and I know it does...especially since we're talking about a business here. Scary... -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sites inaccessible via seamonkey
David E. Ross a écrit : On 5/13/10 5:43 AM, Russ Hunt wrote: On Apr 30, 7:24 pm, Ray_Nettbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: Russ Hunt wrote: Well. I have general.useragent.extra.firefox set to NOT Firefox/3.6. See if that helps you. -JW Hm. I haven't been able to find out where that is. How do I set that? in SM browser, type the url about:config then enter a New string: general.useragent.extra.firefox then set this string equal to: NOT Firefox/3.6 Thanks; this solved the problem -- and another that developed later with a site that didn't respond to SeaMonkey, and did to Firefox. But I think it's worth noting that unless SeaMonkey can be configured so as to avoid this without this pretty obscure individual fix, it's going to go the way of Netscape and Mozilla, because people will decide that they have to use IE or Firefox to avoid this sort of thing occurring more frequently. The problem is not in SeaMonkey. The pronblem is that some Web servers deliver different Web pages based on what browser you are using, detecting your browser by what is called sniffing. Further, many servers sniff incorrectly, looking for Firefox when they should look for Gecko. What you have done is make those servers think you are using Firefox. This is called spoofing. By spoofing, you are compounding the problem by not telling other servers that SeaMonkey is not being used. This will eventually lead to other Web developers to think that there is no need to provide for SeaMonkey when they sniff. This puts all SeaMonkey users at a disadvantage. The proper way to address this problem requires three actions: 1. Use an extension that allows you to spoof another browser when necessary but also eliminates spoofing at other times. Such extensions include PrefBar and UserAgentSwitcher. They automatically eliminate spoofing whenever you launch SeaMonkey. 2. Contact the owner of Web sites that work with Firefox but not with SeaMonkey. Inform them that they are blocking the use of Gecko-based browsers that are not Firefox. Refer them to http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Sardisson/Gecko_is_Gecko and thus losing potential audience. Most of the time webmaster would not change what he have done ... one reason is because IE is IE, FireFox is FireFox, and Seamonkey is *not* Seamonkey , but Gecko ... nobody knowns that Gecko is a browser ... the webmaster snif for a known list of browser ... Gecko ? what is that ? ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: phishing
Pat Connors a écrit : I really want to thank all for the help you are giving me. Download the free version fromhttp://www.malwarebytes.org/ and run it ASAP. This is probably the best free programs available to detect and remove any unwanted files on your pc. I did this and this is the 3rd scan in less than 24 hours that I have done (McAfee, Windows Security) and this one took the longest (over 2 hours) and scanned over 275,000 files and I really feel it was the most complete. None of them found anything. Remember this is a brand new computer. I am confident their is no virus/worm on my computer. I think what happened is that on my last visit to Facebook, with the old computer, my address book was compromised. Part of Facebook's program is to send an email to everyone in your Address Book an invitation to join you on Facebook. When I first got on the program, I elected not to do this. However, they changed their interface and an I think I clicked on something on the new interface that opened up that option, ripe to the spam programs that have plagued Facebook. I have not been on Facebook since my last visit and the next day was when the first spam emails were sent out in my name to some of the addresses in my Address Book. This last time the spam emails went to everyone in my Address Book. I just want this to not happen again. I think I am going to have to go back to Facebook and close out the account so no one can get on my page. I think that you will have great difficulties to close your account ... facebook is a devil ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email with SSL
Piotr Michalowski wrote: Our server uses SSL; in the old version of S. that I use (1.1.19), we do not check the use secure ... box. It works perfectly, but I have not been able to use any subsequent release. I am sure that this has been covered, but I would appreciate knowing if I can hope to some day move up to a new version or if I should just forget about Seamonkey, which I have gotten fond of. Thank you Since your server uses SSL, I'm not sure what your settings should be, but you could check the SMTP settings as I suggested to someone earlier [shown below]: Have you checked your SMTP settings under Mail/Newsgroups Account Settings? At the bottom of your account listing is the Outgoing Server (SMTP) Setting. Click that... then Edit your default setting... removing the security settings as mentioned. Uncheck User name and password and secure authentication, if they are not required by your ISP. Hope if you don't find the solution there, someone else will respond to your next message. :) bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: phishing
On or about 5/13/2010 2:34 PM, Pat Connors hatte gesagt: support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote: If you are not behind a firewall router, then I would recommend software like zone alarm internet security suite. I don't consider mcafee to be all that good. ZAISS will give you a top level software firewall, AV, spyware, etc, all in one place and let you monitor every connection from your computer to the outside world. Thanks for the help. I have Zone Alarm on my old computer and have a subscription to it so will get that going again on this new one. I am confident that I don't have anything on my computer causing the problem now that I have scanned it 3 times in 24 hours by 3 different programs. I think it is Facebook. I went into it again for the first time and changed my password which is what Facebook suggested. My next step is to take my page down and get out of Facebook completely. Lots of luck. My understanding is that you cannot get out completely. They only close you account temporarily. You can reactivate it at any time. -- Ed No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted. -Aesop (620-560 BC) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Firefox from URL's in Email or Newsgroups.
I would like to have Firefox used when I open a URL from within Mail or a Newsgroup rather than the SeaMonkey browser. Can I do this and how if so? Thank you, ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: phishing
Pat Connors wrote: I think what happened is that on my last visit to Facebook, with the old computer, my address book was compromised. I think your terms and usage is what is confusing. Your address book was not compromised, or hacked, or trojanized. It's a Facebook option that you (whether you knew it or not) agreed to. Part of Facebook's program is to send an email to everyone in your Address Book an invitation to join you on Facebook. Exactly. I receive those every once in a while, from people getting new Facebook accounts. The default is do it. But it isn't spamming, it's not a scam, and it isn't phishing. And it isn't SeaMonkey's fault. :-) -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sites inaccessible via seamonkey
Russ Hunt wrote: unless SeaMonkey can be configured so as to avoid this without this pretty obscure individual fix, David E. Ross wrote: The problem is not in SeaMonkey. Yup. sniffing Yup. The proper way to address this problem requires three actions: 2. Contact the owner of Web sites that work with Firefox but not with SeaMonkey. IOW, tell them to LEARN THEIR DAMNED CRAFT. These webmasters/developers are incompetent bozos. If they were plumbers or electricians and pulled this kind of shit, they would have had their licenses yanked long ago. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MASTER PASSWORD OVER KILL !
Rufus a écrit : Because no fix is needed since everything works as it's meant to. To stop the successive requests, simply change the master password to nothing (i.e. leave the field empty). S. ...man, do I hate the thought of that working - and I know it does...especially since we're talking about a business here. Scary... Why? To change the master password to nothing, you need to know the old master password. You can't just cancel it like that. And business or not, if someone doesn't want to use a master password, that's the only way to do it. Either you use it or you don't. You can't have it both ways. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Firefox from URL's in Email or Newsgroups.
JJG wrote: I would like to have Firefox used when I open a URL from within Mail or a Newsgroup rather than the SeaMonkey browser. Can I do this and how if so? Thank you, Sorry, I should have mentioned I am running under Windows 7 Home Edition (64) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MASTER PASSWORD OVER KILL !
S. Beaulieu wrote: Rufus a écrit : Because no fix is needed since everything works as it's meant to. To stop the successive requests, simply change the master password to nothing (i.e. leave the field empty). S. ...man, do I hate the thought of that working - and I know it does...especially since we're talking about a business here. Scary... Why? To change the master password to nothing, you need to know the old master password. You can't just cancel it like that. And business or not, if someone doesn't want to use a master password, that's the only way to do it. Either you use it or you don't. You can't have it both ways. S. I use a master password all the time in all the Browsers I have that use such. Although I am the only person in my household that even knows how to turn a computer on. On occasion (rare) I travel. and also I live in a rather run down neighborhood and a community that is losing jobs left and right. If someone breaks into my Home and steals my computers(s) I don't want to make it easy to get in and steal my information. Anyone that doesn't use a Master Password is playing with fire. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sites inaccessible via seamonkey
On 5/13/10 12:18 PM, Ray_Net wrote: David E. Ross a écrit : On 5/13/10 5:43 AM, Russ Hunt wrote: On Apr 30, 7:24 pm, Ray_Nettbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: Russ Hunt wrote: Well. I have general.useragent.extra.firefox set to NOT Firefox/3.6. See if that helps you. -JW Hm. I haven't been able to find out where that is. How do I set that? in SM browser, type the url about:config then enter a New string: general.useragent.extra.firefox then set this string equal to: NOT Firefox/3.6 Thanks; this solved the problem -- and another that developed later with a site that didn't respond to SeaMonkey, and did to Firefox. But I think it's worth noting that unless SeaMonkey can be configured so as to avoid this without this pretty obscure individual fix, it's going to go the way of Netscape and Mozilla, because people will decide that they have to use IE or Firefox to avoid this sort of thing occurring more frequently. The problem is not in SeaMonkey. The pronblem is that some Web servers deliver different Web pages based on what browser you are using, detecting your browser by what is called sniffing. Further, many servers sniff incorrectly, looking for Firefox when they should look for Gecko. What you have done is make those servers think you are using Firefox. This is called spoofing. By spoofing, you are compounding the problem by not telling other servers that SeaMonkey is not being used. This will eventually lead to other Web developers to think that there is no need to provide for SeaMonkey when they sniff. This puts all SeaMonkey users at a disadvantage. The proper way to address this problem requires three actions: 1. Use an extension that allows you to spoof another browser when necessary but also eliminates spoofing at other times. Such extensions include PrefBar and UserAgentSwitcher. They automatically eliminate spoofing whenever you launch SeaMonkey. 2. Contact the owner of Web sites that work with Firefox but not with SeaMonkey. Inform them that they are blocking the use of Gecko-based browsers that are not Firefox. Refer them to http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Sardisson/Gecko_is_Gecko and thus losing potential audience. Most of the time webmaster would not change what he have done ... one reason is because IE is IE, FireFox is FireFox, and Seamonkey is *not* Seamonkey , but Gecko ... nobody knowns that Gecko is a browser ... the webmaster snif for a known list of browser ... Gecko ? what is that ? ... I suggest you actually read http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Sardisson/Gecko_is_Gecko. Firefox is also Gecko. The Firefox developers state that it is wrong to sniff for Firefox. When sniffing can be justified, the server should sniff for Gecko even for Firefox browsers. However, sniffing often cannot be justified. If a Web page can be processed by W3C validator at http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Sardisson/Gecko_is_Gecko without any error, sniffing should not be necessary. Sniffing is generally used only when a Web developer wants to take advantage of a non-standard feature of a browser and must then also accommodate other browsers. This is usually a poor decision because many non-standard browser features are actually bugs that will be fixed in future versions of the affected browser. Web pages that require sniffing often require constant maintenance with more expense for the Web site owner and more income for the Web developer. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey - Win7 Premium 64-Bit - Flash Player
Interviewed by CNN on 13/5/2010 15:20, Jay told the world: I found a good deal on a Win7 Premium 64-Bit machine and wondering about SM running on it and Flash Player. There is no 64-Bit Flash Player yet and wondering if SM will fit the bill both on 64-Bit and Flash ... You can run the 32-bit Seamonkey (the one that's actually available, you know) in 64-bit Windows with no problem. It will use the 32-bit Flash player. Actually, that's true for most applications. Only a few apps have 64-bit native versions, and those tend to be very memory-hungry apps, like Photoshop, which will benefit from having more than 4Gb RAM all to themselves. And most of them will offer to install both the 32-bit and the 64-bit versions in parallel, so you can use the 64-bit one when you need lots of RAM and the 32-bit one when you need compatibility. (MS-Office is an exception: you have to choose either the 32-bit or the 64-bit version. Unless you are an Excel jockey with a really humongous spreadsheet, you are better off staying with the 32-bit one for the time being). Even Internet Exploder comes in two versions in Vista/7 64bit: a native 64-bit one and a 32-bit one. Most people use only the 32-bit one, because it is compatible with Flash and other plugins. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... A freedom defined is a freedom denied. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.0.4 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: phishing
On 5/13/2010 10:59 AM, Pat Connors wrote: I really want to thank all for the help you are giving me. Download the free version fromhttp://www.malwarebytes.org/ and run it ASAP. This is probably the best free programs available to detect and remove any unwanted files on your pc. I did this and this is the 3rd scan in less than 24 hours that I have done (McAfee, Windows Security) and this one took the longest (over 2 hours) and scanned over 275,000 files and I really feel it was the most complete. None of them found anything. Remember this is a brand new computer. I am confident their is no virus/worm on my computer. Actually, virus scanning as a whole is hit or miss. Just because you run one (or all) of them doesn't in any way mean you don't have a virus, etc., on your machine. The only tool in existence that will prevent your machine from getting a virus is to never turn it on in the first place. The scanner/cleaner tools can find most things, but they can't by any stretch of the imagination find everything. This just isn't possible. To help you see this, imagine the company that created a virus scanner. They designed their scanner to look for particular patterns in files which match known virus patterns. Known at that time, that is. Now, consider the situation even 5 minutes after they released their latest virus scanning database to you. Someone on the planet can develop a new virus which the scanner software doesn't know to look for. How will running the scanner software catch this one? It simply can't. In a few days/weeks, the software may be updated to catch that particular virus (depending on how easy it is to detect and how quickly the scanner software people are able to react to it). Note also that if you're the only one hit by a particular virus, the scanner software people may not even know about it - so their software might never be updated to look for it. I hope this help you understand things a bit better. Best Regards, ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sites inaccessible via seamonkey
On 5/13/10 8:45 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 5/13/10 5:43 AM, Russ Hunt wrote: On Apr 30, 7:24 pm, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: Russ Hunt wrote: Well. I have general.useragent.extra.firefox set to NOT Firefox/3.6. See if that helps you. -JW Hm. I haven't been able to find out where that is. How do I set that? in SM browser, type the url about:config then enter a New string: general.useragent.extra.firefox then set this string equal to: NOT Firefox/3.6 Thanks; this solved the problem -- and another that developed later with a site that didn't respond to SeaMonkey, and did to Firefox. But I think it's worth noting that unless SeaMonkey can be configured so as to avoid this without this pretty obscure individual fix, it's going to go the way of Netscape and Mozilla, because people will decide that they have to use IE or Firefox to avoid this sort of thing occurring more frequently. The problem is not in SeaMonkey. The pronblem is that some Web servers deliver different Web pages based on what browser you are using, detecting your browser by what is called sniffing. Further, many servers sniff incorrectly, looking for Firefox when they should look for Gecko. What you have done is make those servers think you are using Firefox. This is called spoofing. By spoofing, you are compounding the problem by not telling other servers that SeaMonkey is not being used. This will eventually lead to other Web developers to think that there is no need to provide for SeaMonkey when they sniff. This puts all SeaMonkey users at a disadvantage. The proper way to address this problem requires three actions: 1. Use an extension that allows you to spoof another browser when necessary but also eliminates spoofing at other times. Such extensions include PrefBar and UserAgentSwitcher. They automatically eliminate spoofing whenever you launch SeaMonkey. 2. Contact the owner of Web sites that work with Firefox but not with SeaMonkey. Inform them that they are blocking the use of Gecko-based browsers that are not Firefox. Refer them to http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Sardisson/Gecko_is_Gecko and thus losing potential audience. 3. File a Tech Evangelism bug report at bugzilla.mozilla.org. If you don't have an account there, creating a new account is easy. If the whole thing seems too daunting, post a reply here to ask someone else to file the bug report. For an explanation of sniffing, see my http://www.rossde.com/internet/Webdevelopers.html#sniff. For an explanation of spoofing, see my http://www.rossde.com/internet/intr_gloss.html#spoof. Since the other participants in this thread either deny the bellaliant.net site has a problem (and prefer to point their fingers at SeaMonkey) or else enjoy ranting too much to take productive action, I have submitted bug #565675. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=565675. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MASTER PASSWORD OVER KILL !
Interviewed by CNN on 13/5/2010 20:38, Phillip Jones told the world: I use a master password all the time in all the Browsers I have that use such. Although I am the only person in my household that even knows how to turn a computer on. On occasion (rare) I travel. and also I live in a rather run down neighborhood and a community that is losing jobs left and right. If someone breaks into my Home and steals my computers(s) I don't want to make it easy to get in and steal my information. Anyone that doesn't use a Master Password is playing with fire. An option is to use the Seamonkey password manager only for unimportant stuff and an external password manager (like Roboform or Keepass) for the critical stuff. Then you can leave Seamonkey set at a lower-security level (such as ask for master password only on the first time it's needed, or even with no master password if it's really unimportant stuff) and still keep your critical passwords safe. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Don't drink water. Fish make love in it. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.0.4 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MASTER PASSWORD OVER KILL !
With patience akin to a cat's, JOLAN1, on 5/13/2010 7:44 AM typed: Aloha! There is something very wrong with SeaMonkey 2.04, or my installation is somehow badly screwed up! Initially, it asked for our Master Password at logon, which I disabled in about:config. Just to clarify, the pref of which you're speaking is signon.startup.prompt and is set to false--correct? This setting prevents SM from requesting the master password at startup (or logon). Works as expected with my setup of SM 2.0.4. But... subsequently, it asks for the Master Password when: downloading e- mail, accessing any one of our credit accounts, accessing banking accounts, making auto payments, paying for our internet service, on and on, even wants a Master Password to get on MozzilaZine !!! Real bother and we're using Master Password so often...might as well not have one. First, given that you're using SM in a business situation, you *definitely* need a master password if you're having SM store passwords to websites and accounts--*something* must be in place to encrypt stored passwords. I'd strongly recommend you make an MP a necessary security tool. If you are *not* using SM to store passwords, then an MP probably isn't necessary, since there is nothing there for it to encrypt or protect. Second, please check your master password settings in SM, under the following menu steps: Edit | Preferences | Privacy Security | Master Passwords. What is the setting for the Master Password Timeout section? The second option (Every time it is needed) may be ticked, given the program behavior you've described. I'd recommend the first option (The first time it is needed), and that *should* cause SM to behave accordingly. Please report back to the newsgroup with these settings so I or others can assist you further. This past week, we had to hire a temporary book keeper because ours was out sick. The first day we had to be out of the office; came back to find one very frustrated woman! She couldn't access anything she need to on the internet because she didn't have the Master Password. Cost me $$ for the day -- upsetting, to say the least. An unfortunate situation, but if it had been my business, I would have planned for the temp by making the MP available to her at the time she was working, and then changed it after her span of work was complete. Yes, all other employees would have had to been informed about the MP change afterword, but the small amount of time required to do this outweighs, IMO, the very real security risks otherwise. All our accounts are user name/password protected. Adding the Master Password is overkill, useless and absurd. Again, ONLY if SeaMonkey is NOT being used to store passwords. If it is, a master password is a MUST, especially in a business. I've told everyone to uninstall 2.04 and put 1.18 back on until we can get some fix for this. Unwise: 1.1.18 is now months behind on security fixes and will become a detriment regarding web access in the near future. A fix should be doable without putting your business in an insecure state, browser-wise. [small snip] Another issue I've been seeing recently is that 2.04 starts slowing down the longer I've been on the Internet, to the point that it can't connect to web sites, like Yahoo News, for example. Tried shutting down and restarting, same issue. Meanwhile, 1.1.18 works like a charm...all the time. I'm using SM 2.0.4 on WinXP SP3 on a self-built AMD dual core PC, and I haven't experienced this behavior at all. More information is needed to troubleshoot this situation: What OS are you using? Is this happening on only one workstation? What extensions have you installed? Have you tried a new, clean profile (no extensions) to test? What other programs are being run at the same time as SM? With a little more info, hopefully the community can come together and help SM 2.0.4 work well for you and your business. Purrs -- -- /\ /\ | For push of nose, ^o o^D.K. Cat Kraft | for perseverance, -T- | there is nothing to beat a cat. ~ Lynnwood, WA | ___oOO___OOo___| -- Emily Carr ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey - Win7 Premium 64-Bit - Flash Player
On 13.05.2010 19:30, MCBastos wrote: --- Original Message --- Interviewed by CNN on 13/5/2010 15:20, Jay told the world: I found a good deal on a Win7 Premium 64-Bit machine and wondering about SM running on it and Flash Player. There is no 64-Bit Flash Player yet and wondering if SM will fit the bill both on 64-Bit and Flash ... You can run the 32-bit Seamonkey (the one that's actually available, you know) in 64-bit Windows with no problem. It will use the 32-bit Flash player. Actually, that's true for most applications. Only a few apps have 64-bit native versions, and those tend to be very memory-hungry apps, like Photoshop, which will benefit from having more than 4Gb RAM all to themselves. And most of them will offer to install both the 32-bit and the 64-bit versions in parallel, so you can use the 64-bit one when you need lots of RAM and the 32-bit one when you need compatibility. (MS-Office is an exception: you have to choose either the 32-bit or the 64-bit version. Unless you are an Excel jockey with a really humongous spreadsheet, you are better off staying with the 32-bit one for the time being). Even Internet Exploder comes in two versions in Vista/7 64bit: a native 64-bit one and a 32-bit one. Most people use only the 32-bit one, because it is compatible with Flash and other plugins. Thanks, it's the wife's new computer, no Office will be installed, doesn't need it. Mostly just browsing and email and she's pretty handy with Seamonkey .. thanks -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MASTER PASSWORD OVER KILL !
S. Beaulieu wrote: Rufus a écrit : Because no fix is needed since everything works as it's meant to. To stop the successive requests, simply change the master password to nothing (i.e. leave the field empty). S. ...man, do I hate the thought of that working - and I know it does...especially since we're talking about a business here. Scary... Why? To change the master password to nothing, you need to know the old master password. You can't just cancel it like that. And business or not, if someone doesn't want to use a master password, that's the only way to do it. Either you use it or you don't. You can't have it both ways. S. ...all I know is that is doesn't behave like I'd have expected it to, and I'm all confused now and don't trust whatever it does anymore...I certainly wouldn't want a null string as a password. But I guess that's just me... -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MASTER PASSWORD OVER KILL !
D. K. Kraft wrote: With patience akin to a cat's, JOLAN1, on 5/13/2010 7:44 AM typed: Aloha! There is something very wrong with SeaMonkey 2.04, or my installation is somehow badly screwed up! Initially, it asked for our Master Password at logon, which I disabled in about:config. Just to clarify, the pref of which you're speaking is signon.startup.prompt and is set to false--correct? This setting prevents SM from requesting the master password at startup (or logon). Works as expected with my setup of SM 2.0.4. But... subsequently, it asks for the Master Password when: downloading e- mail, accessing any one of our credit accounts, accessing banking accounts, making auto payments, paying for our internet service, on and on, even wants a Master Password to get on MozzilaZine !!! Real bother and we're using Master Password so often...might as well not have one. First, given that you're using SM in a business situation, you *definitely* need a master password if you're having SM store passwords to websites and accounts--*something* must be in place to encrypt stored passwords. I'd strongly recommend you make an MP a necessary security tool. If you are *not* using SM to store passwords, then an MP probably isn't necessary, since there is nothing there for it to encrypt or protect. Second, please check your master password settings in SM, under the following menu steps: Edit | Preferences | Privacy Security | Master Passwords. What is the setting for the Master Password Timeout section? The second option (Every time it is needed) may be ticked, given the program behavior you've described. I'd recommend the first option (The first time it is needed), and that *should* cause SM to behave accordingly. Please report back to the newsgroup with these settings so I or others can assist you further. This past week, we had to hire a temporary book keeper because ours was out sick. The first day we had to be out of the office; came back to find one very frustrated woman! She couldn't access anything she need to on the internet because she didn't have the Master Password. Cost me $$ for the day -- upsetting, to say the least. An unfortunate situation, but if it had been my business, I would have planned for the temp by making the MP available to her at the time she was working, and then changed it after her span of work was complete. Yes, all other employees would have had to been informed about the MP change afterword, but the small amount of time required to do this outweighs, IMO, the very real security risks otherwise. All our accounts are user name/password protected. Adding the Master Password is overkill, useless and absurd. Again, ONLY if SeaMonkey is NOT being used to store passwords. If it is, a master password is a MUST, especially in a business. I've told everyone to uninstall 2.04 and put 1.18 back on until we can get some fix for this. Unwise: 1.1.18 is now months behind on security fixes and will become a detriment regarding web access in the near future. A fix should be doable without putting your business in an insecure state, browser-wise. [small snip] Another issue I've been seeing recently is that 2.04 starts slowing down the longer I've been on the Internet, to the point that it can't connect to web sites, like Yahoo News, for example. Tried shutting down and restarting, same issue. Meanwhile, 1.1.18 works like a charm...all the time. I'm using SM 2.0.4 on WinXP SP3 on a self-built AMD dual core PC, and I haven't experienced this behavior at all. More information is needed to troubleshoot this situation: What OS are you using? Is this happening on only one workstation? What extensions have you installed? Have you tried a new, clean profile (no extensions) to test? What other programs are being run at the same time as SM? With a little more info, hopefully the community can come together and help SM 2.0.4 work well for you and your business. Purrs -- Good words, D.K.! -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: MASTER PASSWORD OVER KILL !
Phillip Jones wrote: S. Beaulieu wrote: Rufus a écrit : Because no fix is needed since everything works as it's meant to. To stop the successive requests, simply change the master password to nothing (i.e. leave the field empty). S. ...man, do I hate the thought of that working - and I know it does...especially since we're talking about a business here. Scary... Why? To change the master password to nothing, you need to know the old master password. You can't just cancel it like that. And business or not, if someone doesn't want to use a master password, that's the only way to do it. Either you use it or you don't. You can't have it both ways. S. I use a master password all the time in all the Browsers I have that use such. Although I am the only person in my household that even knows how to turn a computer on. On occasion (rare) I travel. and also I live in a rather run down neighborhood and a community that is losing jobs left and right. If someone breaks into my Home and steals my computers(s) I don't want to make it easy to get in and steal my information. Anyone that doesn't use a Master Password is playing with fire. I don't have to worry about other people in my household, but I DO worry about hackers, and about losing my laptop someplace - even though I use a Mac, I'm not convinced about any sort of immunity because of it. I always use a Master, and it's been one of my secondary - if not primary - reasons for using first Netscape and now SeaMonkey. Strong passwords are employed where they are for a reason...and having all your passwords in such a convenient location and NOT using a strong Master is just begging for trouble. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: phishing
support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote: I think your terms and usage is what is confusing. Your address book was not compromised, or hacked, or trojanized. It's a Facebook option that you (whether you knew it or not) agreed to. Yes, you are correct, I did use the wrong terms. It took a while to figure out what actually happened. After all those scans, I know it is not my computer but the Facebook program. I don't remember them asking me about copying my Address Book because I would have said, NO. And it isn't SeaMonkey's fault. No, and I never said it was. I have been on SeaMonkey, since it's beginning (after Netscape) and love it. I was trying to get help with a problem I didn't fully understand. Again, thanks to all that have helped me understand what was happening. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento, CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
