Re: how to automatically save files?
Lee wrote: On 6/27/10, Rufus n...@home.com wrote: Lee wrote: On 6/26/10, Rufus n...@home.com wrote: Lee wrote: On 6/26/10, Paul p...@main.com wrote: Lee wrote: SeaMonkey doesn't give me the option to automatically save certain file types - the latest example being http://www.cacetech.com/sharkfest.09/DT5_Varenni_WinPcapDosDonts.pptx where I get You have chosen to open whatever.pptx which is a: Microsoft PowerPoint Presentation from http://whatever What should SeaMonkey do with this file? and the 'Do this automatically for files like this from now on.' line is greyed out. Is there some way for me to manually go in and force all .pptx files to be saved instead of asking every time I download a .pptx file if I want to open it with some application? SeaMonkey 2.0.5 running on Windows Vista Thanks, Lee If that extension is not listed in your helper apps, it isn't then add it there and set it for what ever default you want. how? Edit / Preferences / Browser / Helper Applications just shows me the existing helper apps. There's no add, new, or edit buttons - just ok, cancel help Thanks, Lee SM Preferences/Navigator/Helper Applications - you should see buttons for New Type, Edit, and Remove. I certainly should :) Unfortunately, no. Are you using Windows? The options I have on the top bar are File Edit View Go Bookmarks Tools Window Help maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see a SM Preferences or Navigator option to click on anywhere.. Thanks, Lee No, I'm using a Mac, but the menus have always been the same - you sure there's not a Preferences option under Seamonkey? I have - Seamonkey File Edit View Go Bookmarks Tools Window Help in my bar. There's no Seamonkey anything on my menu bar to click on. On the extreme left is the little triangle that does the menu bar show/hide and then comes the File Edit View options just like you have. Are you using a 1.x or 2.x version of SeaMonkey? I thought I used to be able to add and remove file type extensions at will, but that functionality seems to not be there any more :( Regards, Lee I use both 1.1.19 and 2.0.5 on different machines. Mac screenshots - http://mac.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/SeaMonkey-Screenshot-12945.html I see what you mean, though... http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/screenshots ...your options/winows are located differently. BUT...hmmmnn...I just compared my install of 1.1.19 with my install of 2.0.5 and guess what?..I have no way to add a new Helper App entry under 2.0.5 on a Mac either! I looked for a button, tried right-clicking all over the place...no joy. So it would appear that 2.x.x once again has relieved us of something we liked/use/need in terms of user interface...I KNEW there was more than a few reasons I still have 1.1.19 on my main machine...I guess we're *both* screwed...:( -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Missing in SeaMonkey 2.0.5
Evan Davidson wrote: Arne wrote: Upgrading from 2.0 and all went well, as it seems so far. But now I'm missing the Tab X extension, as it is not compatible with 2.0.5 :( Try Sea Tab X; it works for 2.0.5 and there's a separate version for the upcoming 2.1. You can find it at: http://tom-cat.com/mozilla/extensions.html#seatabx Thank you, very much! Now I'm happy again! :D -- /Arne ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to automatically save files?
Lee wrote: I thought I used to be able to add and remove file type extensions at will, but that functionality seems to not be there any more :( It seems to depend on the OS you run SM under. I have 2.0.5 under Linux Ubuntu 10.4 and the Preferences menu appears under Edit, but in the Helper Applications area there are no options for adding to or editing the list - the only buttons are Help or Close. I know different operating systems produce different problems, but it would be great if we could all enjoy similar menu options. It seems particularly ironic when Windows users get better options than Linux users in an open source app! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Multiple Windows
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Daniel wrote: but I cannot tell what OS you are using (Whats Warp 4.5??). I see nobody has answered that for you yet. It is OS/2. I was a Warp user for a time during the mid-90s, and might have remained so, except there was not a lot of productive software available for the platform -- or at least not for the kind of work I was required to do. Thanks for that, Beau. I think I've only e ver know two people who used OS/2. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Automatic 2.0.5 version
Robert Kaiser wrote: Pat Connors schrieb: When I read the list, it was mentioned that this not the full 2.0.5 but a security update. The full 2.0.5 is a security update to 2.0.4, so I don't understand what you mean... Robert Kaiser Robert, could you please respond to my reply to Pat in this thread?? Ta Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Automatic 2.0.5 version
Daniel schrieb: Seems something is wrong here! Yes, not letting it check daily and automatically apply security updates is wrong, as it compromises your security. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Automatic 2.0.5 version
Daniel schrieb: Robert, could you please respond to my reply to Pat in this thread?? I don't have anything good to say, but as you insisted, I told you my opinion there. I usually only reply if I have anything good to say, but if I also should if I don't I will take the tiome, slow down SeaMonkey development and post every crap I have in my head. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to automatically save files?
Ray wrote: Lee wrote: I thought I used to be able to add and remove file type extensions at will, but that functionality seems to not be there any more :( It seems to depend on the OS you run SM under. I have 2.0.5 under Linux Ubuntu 10.4 and the Preferences menu appears under Edit, but in the Helper Applications area there are no options for adding to or editing the list - the only buttons are Help or Close. I know different operating systems produce different problems, but it would be great if we could all enjoy similar menu options. It seems particularly ironic when Windows users get better options than Linux users in an open source app! You're drawing wrong conclusions from an incomplete picture. The preferences have been there in SM 1.1 and are gone in SM 2.0. That's all. No differences regarding platform there. The way to add MIME-type-to-action correlations in SM 2.0 is simply to select the Do this automatically for files like this from now on. checkbox in the download confirmation window. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Time Machine questions
I find a need to access a lot of missing emails from a few months back. I regularly bsck up my HD from my iMac to an external Maxtor drive, using SuperDuper! and Time Machine. Time machine seems cumbersome, in that that fancy-schmancy active splash screen obscures any accessible menu item where I might command it to retrieve data from older backups. All of which means I haven’t learned how to use it yet... Be that as it may, do older SM messages still reside inside some folder on those backups, so I can access, read and transfer them back to my current SM folder? In other words, how can I find and restore older Inbox messages from a few months ago? Or can’t I? keith whaley ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Message flags
Good day I often flag messages in newsgroups at times I lose track of them is there a way to view only flagged messages in a newsgroup thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message flags
Smiles wrote: I often flag messages in newsgroups at times I lose track of them is there a way to view only flagged messages in a newsgroup View dropdown Customize New Status is Flagged. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to automatically save files?
Jens Hatlak wrote: Ray wrote: Lee wrote: I thought I used to be able to add and remove file type extensions at will, but that functionality seems to not be there any more :( It seems to depend on the OS you run SM under. I have 2.0.5 under Linux Ubuntu 10.4 and the Preferences menu appears under Edit, but in the Helper Applications area there are no options for adding to or editing the list - the only buttons are Help or Close. I know different operating systems produce different problems, but it would be great if we could all enjoy similar menu options. It seems particularly ironic when Windows users get better options than Linux users in an open source app! You're drawing wrong conclusions from an incomplete picture. The preferences have been there in SM 1.1 and are gone in SM 2.0. That's all. No differences regarding platform there. The way to add MIME-type-to-action correlations in SM 2.0 is simply to select the Do this automatically for files like this from now on. checkbox in the download confirmation window. HTH Jens According to the OP on 6-26-10: SeaMonkey doesn't give me the option to automatically save certain file types - the latest example being http://www.cacetech.com/sharkfest.09/DT5_Varenni_WinPcapDosDonts.pptx where I get You have chosen to open whatever.pptx which is a: Microsoft PowerPoint Presentation from http://whatever What should SeaMonkey do with this file? and the 'Do this automatically for files like this from now on.' line is greyed out. Is there some way for me to manually go in and force all .pptx files to be saved instead of asking every time I download a .pptx file if I want to open it with some application? SeaMonkey 2.0.5 running on Windows Vista Thanks, Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Deleted Messages Moved to Trash folder as read
Phillip Jones wrote: Arnie Goetchius wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Ray_Net wrote: NoOp wrote: On 06/25/2010 12:54 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Arnie Goetchius wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: ,,, without reading, you can mark read, then delete. That's not the issue. If you mark as unread and then delete, it is moved to Trash and the status is changed to read. In 1.x, after marking as unread and deleting, it is moved to Trash and the status stayed as unread. In 2.x, after marking as unread and deleting, it is moved to Trash and the status is changed to read. Most of people doesn't understand this simple problem. When a mail is moved from one folder to another one (even while with the delete action) this is not normal that the characteristics of the mail are changed. Someone told us that resetting the unread status is done by design; therefore this is a *BAD* design. But the developpers lives in their gold-tower. Cool your jets. I think that you're beating a dead horse as 1.1.x is dead. There is an option in 2.x preferences to not mark spam as read, but as far as I can recall there is no such option to do the same with deleated mail. (Don't know I'd have to reinstall 1.x to check but I won't). Regarding But the developpers lives in their gold-tower. I've no idea what gold-tower you imagine. The 'developers' are volunteers that contribute *their time* freely to this project. If you'd like to do the same then I'm sure that you can find your way to the dev pages. Here, let me help you: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/ http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/get-involved Your comments regarding the developpers (sic) is both incorrect and offensive. As a 'user' and 'volunteer tester' of SeaMonkey I've no problem with pointing out issues and/or problems with SM and/or reporting bugs if the issue is serious enough. In nearly all cases I've received positive response from the SeaMonkey volunteers (developers). If you've a problem with SeaMonkey, please feel free to move on to some other application. Otherwise file a bug report (or point to an existing bug report), contribute time to the project. Did I miss where you'd previously filed a bug report? If so I appologize would appreciate it if you could remind me by supplying the url to the bug report. So far so god - BUT - when a mail is read - it's normal to change their status from unread to read. When an unread message is deleted, it's normal when moving this message to the trash folder that his status stays an unread - *because* no read action was performed. Have you looked at these: http://screencast.com/t/ZmZhNjZmOWI http://screencast.com/t/ZmJhYjZkMTM You can turn these actions on or off just by checking or un-checking. You are correct that you can turn those actions on or off but that is not the subject of this discussion. The fact remains that deleted messages moved to trash cannot be moved there as unread no matter what is checked in Message Display, Junk Display or any place else in SM2.x I can move unread message to trash all I have to do is get out of preview mode(use three pane mode) http://screencast.com/t/M2NlZTgx http://screencast.com/t/YTIzNGJjOD the theme I use has a grippy which you can double-click I did that in the second screen shot. you can move unread messages to Trash or junk. Sorry, again I say that move unread message to trash is not the subject of this discussion. You cannot DELETE a message and have it end up in Trash as unread in SM2.x. As you demonstrate, you can MOVE an unread message to Trash and it will stay as unread. However, we are not talking about MOVEing in this discussion. We are discussing DELETE an unread message. When an unread message is deleted, it ends up in Trash as read. None of your screenshots show anything related to deleting a message. They all address moving. That is NOT what we are discussing here. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there an official Mozilla SeaMonkey guide for web developers who misuse User Agents?
On 6/27/10 6:26 AM, Ant wrote: Hi! I am seeing a lot of Web sites that don't work correctly under Mozilla's SeaMonkey (SM) v2 web browsers like on http://www.ranker.com/list/oderus-urungus-of-gwar_s-top-10-war-films/oderus-urungus (and many ranker.com's articles). I have to change the User Agent to Firefox v2.0.0.20 or something. In the past, I have used Report Web site, contacted web people, etc., but no luck for weeks/months/years (e.g., TV Guide's schedules!). I don't want to abandon SM, the web sites, etc. What else can we try? Getting all of us to contact the web team? Bug reports (not Mozilla's issues though)? Is there an official guide for Webmasters/developers so they can fix their problems to make SM work correctly? I assume it is easy to fix by not sniffing SM's User Agent? Thank you in advance. :) See my http://www.rossde.com/internet/sniffing.html. Also see http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Sardisson/Gecko_is_Gecko and https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Browser_Detection_and_Cross_Browser_Support. Note that a vigorous discussion recently occurred on the mozilla.dev.planning newsgroup about pruning the UA string, possibly eliminating any mention of the browser's user interface (e.g., Firefox, SeaMonkey). Because of the prevalence of invalid sniffing, I think this would break so many Web sites that users would abandon Gecko-based browsers. Followup set to mozilla.support.seamonkey. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Change NEW profile to DEFAULT?
W3BNR wrote: Ray_Net wrote: W3BNR wrote: W3BNR wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 6/19/2010 8:19 AM, W3BNR wrote: After using Netscape and SeaMonkey for many years my profile got quite sizeable. A few months ago I created a NEW profile. Is there any way to get rid of the old DEFAULT profile and have the NEW profile as DEFAULT? Yes. You can run profile manager to remove the old default profile. When SM starts and there is only one profile there, it will use it (I'm almost sure about that). However, if you want to rename the new profile to default you can do that too. I've done this several times. Never had any problems with it. Hmm - I tried that a while back and it wouldn't let me remove DEFAULT. Just tried it again and it did remove DEFAULT. I guess i should have remembered the old adage Try, Try again instead of just trying one time. Thanks, Mark for reminding me of the KISS rule. Well, it removed it from the Profile Manager screen, but the user.default dir still exists in Documents and Settings/user/Mozilla/SeaMonkey/Profiles/ directory. Is it safe to Delete user,default directory since I now have one named user.W3BNR? I have only one directory named 2pj2ffu1.default and not under your path, but under the C:\Documents and Settings\RAY\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles path. (Windows XP-SP3 with SM2 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.4) You're correct. I inadvertently skipped one directory. It should be C:\Documents and Settings\user\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles And I'm using XP-PRO SP3 (up-to-date) with Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11pre) Gecko/20100618 SeaMonkey/2.0.6pre Continuing on. In 'ProfileManager', I deleted the default profile. Now I only have one profile showing in 'ProfileManger' and that is W3BNR. I still have two subdirectories in the \Profiles\ directory one is .default and the other is .W3BNR. I went to 'ProfileManager' and renamed W3BNR to default. I still had the same two sub-directories in \Profiles\. So I went back to 'ProfileManager' and renamed default to W3BNR so it would agree with the profile I'm using. So two questions exist. 1. Can I delete the now unused directory .default? 2. If I do will future upgrades, to 3.0 for instance, of SM (when needed) import my settings from the .W3BNR directory or will it look for .default? -- Ed http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1zhwu/ Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ There are no stupid questions - just stupid people. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there an official Mozilla SeaMonkey guide for web developers who misuse User Agents?
On 6/27/2010 8:16 AM PT, Phillip Jones typed: Ant wrote: Hi! I am seeing a lot of Web sites that don't work correctly under Mozilla's SeaMonkey (SM) v2 web browsers like on http://www.ranker.com/list/oderus-urungus-of-gwar_s-top-10-war-films/oderus-urungus (and many ranker.com's articles). I have to change the User Agent to Firefox v2.0.0.20 or something. In the past, I have used Report Web site, contacted web people, etc., but no luck for weeks/months/years (e.g., TV Guide's schedules!). I don't want to abandon SM, the web sites, etc. What else can we try? Getting all of us to contact the web team? Bug reports (not Mozilla's issues though)? Is there an official guide for Webmasters/developers so they can fix their problems to make SM work correctly? I assume it is easy to fix by not sniffing SM's User Agent? Thank you in advance. :) I've been read and commenting a subject similar to this on developer group. In past its been recommend by many here to go to Help report broken websites. Yeah, I never seen any replies or anything with that. I also noticed Firefox has this option. Do they actually do anything? The designer of that item has said don't bother, its a waste of time . The mozilla collective doesn't read them its a waste of time. So what ever you don't report it on the Report broken websites. So why even have it? They should remove it! -- The men of experiment are like the ant; they only collect and use. But the bee...gathers its materials from the flowers of the garden and of the field, but transforms and digests it by a power of its own. --Leonardo da Vinci /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there an official Mozilla SeaMonkey guide for web developers who misuse User Agents?
On 6/27/2010 9:55 AM PT, David E. Ross typed: See myhttp://www.rossde.com/internet/sniffing.html. Also see http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Sardisson/Gecko_is_Gecko and https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Browser_Detection_and_Cross_Browser_Support. Thanks. I will keep these links to share to Web site's people who need to fix SeaMonkey issues. -- I'm not afraid of insects taking over the world, and you know why? It would take about a million ants just to aim a gun at me, let alone fire it. And you know what I'm doing while they're aiming it at me? I just sort of slip off to the side, and then suddenly run up and kick the gun out of their hands. --Jack Handy from Saturday Night Live /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Automatic 2.0.5 version
Pat Connors avait écrit le 25/06/2010 : I was surprised this morning when I clicked on SM and found I had an automatic download from SeaMonkey that I didn't ask for. When the browser finally load, it said I now had 2.0.5. I have been on SM since Netscape stopped updating and this has never happened before. When I read the list, it was mentioned that this not the full 2.0.5 but a security update. What does that mean? Under Help, About SeaMonkey, it says I am using version 2.0.5. I guess I need a clarification on whether this is 5 or not 5. What are the options you ticked in software installation? I permitted to update and SM did so. -- [URL=http://users.kbc.skynet.be/fi001005] *Belgische Ardennen - Ardennes Belge [/URL] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to automatically save files?
Paul wrote: According to the OP on 6-26-10: SeaMonkey doesn't give me the option to automatically save certain file types - the latest example being http://www.cacetech.com/sharkfest.09/DT5_Varenni_WinPcapDosDonts.pptx (...) and the 'Do this automatically for files like this from now on.' line is greyed out. SeaMonkey stores download associations per MIME type. The problem with the download from the address above is that it is delivered with MIME type text/plain. That is, like application/octet-stream, too generic to be stored. You wouldn't want any text file to be opened with the program you choose for this .pptx file, right? The only way how to solve this issue is by fixing the source, i.e. the web server that delivers that file (cacetech.com). You can find out about these issues by either using the Live HTTP Headers extension or using the wget command line tool (available by default on most Linux machines) with the -S parameter. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there an official Mozilla SeaMonkey guide for web developers who misuse User Agents?
Ant wrote: The designer of that item has said don't bother, its a waste of time . The mozilla collective doesn't read them its a waste of time. So what ever you don't report it on the Report broken websites. So why even have it? They should remove it! They will: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572695 Greetings, Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Change NEW profile to DEFAULT?
W3BNR wrote: Continuing on. In 'ProfileManager', I deleted the default profile. Now I only have one profile showing in 'ProfileManger' and that is W3BNR. I still have two subdirectories in the \Profiles\ directory one is .default and the other is .W3BNR. You probably didn't tell SeaMonkey to also delete the files on disk for the default profile (there should have been a dialog asking you that). I went to 'ProfileManager' and renamed W3BNR to default. I still had the same two sub-directories in \Profiles\. Renaming a profile only changes its display name (Name= in profiles.ini). So two questions exist. 1. Can I delete the now unused directory .default? Probably. To be safe, make a backup, then rename it, and in a few days delete it. 2. If I do will future upgrades, to 3.0 for instance, of SM (when needed) import my settings from the .W3BNR directory or will it look for .default? It will most probably just use whichever profiles you have. The import (migration) was only from SM 1.x to SM 2.0. Of course I cannot tell what will happen with SM 3.0 since this is very far from now (the next release will be 2.1, which will use your 2.0 profiles). HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Change NEW profile to DEFAULT?
Jens Hatlak wrote: W3BNR wrote: Continuing on. In 'ProfileManager', I deleted the default profile. Now I only have one profile showing in 'ProfileManger' and that is W3BNR. I still have two subdirectories in the \Profiles\ directory one is .default and the other is .W3BNR. You probably didn't tell SeaMonkey to also delete the files on disk for the default profile (there should have been a dialog asking you that). Don't remember seeing such dialog. I went to 'ProfileManager' and renamed W3BNR to default. I still had the same two sub-directories in \Profiles\. Renaming a profile only changes its display name (Name= in profiles.ini). That's what I suspected. So two questions exist. 1. Can I delete the now unused directory .default? Probably. To be safe, make a backup, then rename it, and in a few days delete it. Will do. 2. If I do will future upgrades, to 3.0 for instance, of SM (when needed) import my settings from the .W3BNR directory or will it look for .default? It will most probably just use whichever profiles you have. The import (migration) was only from SM 1.x to SM 2.0. Of course I cannot tell what will happen with SM 3.0 since this is very far from now (the next release will be 2.1, which will use your 2.0 profiles). HTH Jens Thanks Jens. It's not that I need the disk space, I just like to keep things clean and get rid of what's not needed. -- Ed http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1zhwu/ Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there an official Mozilla SeaMonkey guide for web developers who misuse User Agents?
Ant wrote: On 6/27/2010 8:16 AM PT, Phillip Jones typed: Ant wrote: Hi! I am seeing a lot of Web sites that don't work correctly under Mozilla's SeaMonkey (SM) v2 web browsers like on http://www.ranker.com/list/oderus-urungus-of-gwar_s-top-10-war-films/oderus-urungus (and many ranker.com's articles). I have to change the User Agent to Firefox v2.0.0.20 or something. In the past, I have used Report Web site, contacted web people, etc., but no luck for weeks/months/years (e.g., TV Guide's schedules!). I don't want to abandon SM, the web sites, etc. What else can we try? Getting all of us to contact the web team? Bug reports (not Mozilla's issues though)? Is there an official guide for Webmasters/developers so they can fix their problems to make SM work correctly? I assume it is easy to fix by not sniffing SM's User Agent? Thank you in advance. :) I've been read and commenting a subject similar to this on developer group. In past its been recommend by many here to go to Help report broken websites. Yeah, I never seen any replies or anything with that. I also noticed Firefox has this option. Do they actually do anything? The designer of that item has said don't bother, its a waste of time . The mozilla collective doesn't read them its a waste of time. So what ever you don't report it on the Report broken websites. So why even have it? They should remove it! They plan to in next major release. Everyone will have to report such to the web masters. Seems the Developers seem to think individual reports by the users coming in dribs and drabs, will be far more influential than someone from on Mozilla or stationery sending a letter on behalf of Mozilla would have more influence. I am not sure they had a straight face when getting that pint across. What they ought to do is right SM/FF with Self-healing built in. That way if a monkey wrote the website FF could read it. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Deleted email not moved to Trash folder?
On 6/23/2010 7:57 AM, Beverly Howard wrote: My experience with SM (1.x) is that deleted unread messages appear in the specified trash folder as unread messages. sorry, but a related question that I have to ask... how are you selecting the unread message? obviously, if you click the header, then delete the message, it will have been read before deletion. Beverly Howard Obviously? :) Actually, selecting the message doesn't mark it as read unless you have the preview pane open and have the setting to 'mark it as read within a few seconds' set to a time short enough that it gets marked before you delete it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Try this
On 6/23/2010 7:08 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Since you started a new thread with a new subject and didn't quote any of the previous message, how is anyone supposed to know who this is for? Which of the other 52,708 messages in this group is/are relevant? Sheesh, I could tell what he was talking about. You couldn't? :-\ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to automatically save files?
Jens Hatlak wrote: Paul wrote: According to the OP on 6-26-10: SeaMonkey doesn't give me the option to automatically save certain file types - the latest example being http://www.cacetech.com/sharkfest.09/DT5_Varenni_WinPcapDosDonts.pptx (...) and the 'Do this automatically for files like this from now on.' line is greyed out. SeaMonkey stores download associations per MIME type. The problem with the download from the address above is that it is delivered with MIME type text/plain. That is, like application/octet-stream, too generic to be stored. You wouldn't want any text file to be opened with the program you choose for this .pptx file, right? The only way how to solve this issue is by fixing the source, i.e. the web server that delivers that file (cacetech.com). You can find out about these issues by either using the Live HTTP Headers extension or using the wget command line tool (available by default on most Linux machines) with the -S parameter. HTH Jens Great bit of info. I see now what you mean. Thanks Jens. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Writing web sites that work on SeaMonkey
I actually have a Web Master who responded that says he will work on trying to get his site to work better with SeaMonkey ! www.brassjunkies.com Can someone give me a link that explains how he would do that so that I can pass it on to him? DoctorBill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Writing web sites that work on SeaMonkey
DoctorBill wrote: I actually have a Web Master who responded that says he will work on trying to get his site to work better with SeaMonkey ! www.brassjunkies.com Can someone give me a link that explains how he would do that so that I can pass it on to him? DoctorBill http://validator.w3.org/ If it is valid, I'll betcha SeaMonkey will render it AOK. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Writing web sites that work on SeaMonkey
Rick Merrill wrote: DoctorBill wrote: I actually have a Web Master who responded that says he will work on trying to get his site to work better with SeaMonkey ! www.brassjunkies.com Can someone give me a link that explains how he would do that so that I can pass it on to him? DoctorBill http://validator.w3.org/ If it is valid, I'll betcha SeaMonkey will render it AOK. I just passed that validator link on to him. Any other links to help him write a good website ? DoctorBill -- Gun control is like trying to eliminate drunk driving by not allowing sober people to own cars. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Writing web sites that work on SeaMonkey
DoctorBill wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: DoctorBill wrote: I actually have a Web Master who responded that says he will work on trying to get his site to work better with SeaMonkey ! www.brassjunkies.com Can someone give me a link that explains how he would do that so that I can pass it on to him? DoctorBill http://validator.w3.org/ If it is valid, I'll betcha SeaMonkey will render it AOK. I just passed that validator link on to him. Any other links to help him write a good website ? DoctorBill Well, 'good' is subjective, while 'valid' is objective ;-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Writing web sites that work on SeaMonkey
DoctorBill wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: DoctorBill wrote: I actually have a Web Master who responded that says he will work on trying to get his site to work better with SeaMonkey ! www.brassjunkies.com Can someone give me a link that explains how he would do that so that I can pass it on to him? http://validator.w3.org/ If it is valid, I'll betcha SeaMonkey will render it AOK. I just passed that validator link on to him. Any other links to help him write a good website ? From the validator: Errors found while checking this document as HTML 4.01 Transitional! Result: 114 Errors, 6 warning(s) I can't see him wanting to totally rewrite the site, as that is what it will take to produce something valid. And then only with a lot of knowhow. There is also the CSS validator. http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ But first and foremost, tell him to stop browser-sniffing! If you read the JavaScript: http://www.brassjunkies.com/themes/classic_blue/main.js you will see he is *looking* for IE, Opera, and Netscape. All other browsers are shunned. How crass is that? Errorless web pages will work in any browser. Though I must say, I see little difference at that brassjunkie page in several browsers: Firefox, SeaMonkey, Opera. What exactly do you think is wrong with it? -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Writing web sites that work on SeaMonkey
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: DoctorBill wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: DoctorBill wrote: I actually have a Web Master who responded that says he will work on trying to get his site to work better with SeaMonkey ! www.brassjunkies.com Can someone give me a link that explains how he would do that so that I can pass it on to him? http://validator.w3.org/ If it is valid, I'll betcha SeaMonkey will render it AOK. I just passed that validator link on to him. Any other links to help him write a good website ? From the validator: Errors found while checking this document as HTML 4.01 Transitional! Result: 114 Errors, 6 warning(s) I can't see him wanting to totally rewrite the site, as that is what it will take to produce something valid. And then only with a lot of knowhow. There is also the CSS validator. http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ But first and foremost, tell him to stop browser-sniffing! If you read the JavaScript: http://www.brassjunkies.com/themes/classic_blue/main.js you will see he is *looking* for IE, Opera, and Netscape. All other browsers are shunned. How crass is that? Errorless web pages will work in any browser. Though I must say, I see little difference at that brassjunkie page in several browsers: Firefox, SeaMonkey, Opera. What exactly do you think is wrong with it? If you try to add a Wanted to Buy item some of the group choices won't respond to a mouse click in SM, but do in IE. A while back, I sent some messages to a vendor on the site and later the guy told me that it somehow got repeated 88 times! Mostly these badly written sites do not accept mouse clicks when using SM. This web site is known for having bad problems - the web master apparently started it by writing it himself, but later got someone else to clean it up. Don't know if he hired someone or got a so called 'expurt' to help him...(?) I am supposing it was set up by a guy who thought he was good at writing in html.. DoctorBill -- Gun control is like trying to eliminate drunk driving by not allowing sober people to own cars. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Writing web sites that work on SeaMonkey
DoctorBill wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: DoctorBill wrote: DoctorBill wrote: www.brassjunkies.com From the validator: Errors found while checking this document as HTML 4.01 Transitional! Result: 114 Errors, 6 warning(s) I can't see him wanting to totally rewrite the site, as that is what it will take to produce something valid. And then only with a lot of knowhow. There is also the CSS validator. http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ But first and foremost, tell him to stop browser-sniffing! If you read the JavaScript: http://www.brassjunkies.com/themes/classic_blue/main.js you will see he is *looking* for IE, Opera, and Netscape. All other browsers are shunned. How crass is that? Errorless web pages will work in any browser. Though I must say, I see little difference at that brassjunkie page in several browsers: Firefox, SeaMonkey, Opera. What exactly do you think is wrong with it? If you try to add a Wanted to Buy item some of the group choices won't respond to a mouse click in SM, but do in IE. A while back, I sent some messages to a vendor on the site and later the guy told me that it somehow got repeated 88 times! Oh. That's more detail than your original post. I don't think I want to try to add any items... Mostly these badly written sites do not accept mouse clicks when using SM. That would be unusual. You mean clicking on links or buttons? Possibly a JavaScript error. This web site is known for having bad problems - the web master apparently started it by writing it himself, but later got someone else to clean it up. Don't know if he hired someone or got a so called 'expurt' to help him...(?) It is written with DreamWeaver. That's an expensive package, but still produces crap in the hands of amateurs. I am supposing it was set up by a guy who thought he was good at writing in html.. There's so much more to a good, working web site than knowing a few HTML elements. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Photobucket
People tell me that THEY can see pictures on and/or from Photobucket ! http://photobucket.com/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/WVchuck/762chamberinserts.jpg I cannot get Photobucket to load on my SM 1.1 and any links to pictures stored there will not come up. I have a gozillion pictures stored there for various forums. I was under the impression Photobucket is down, but if others can see things linked to there, then is my SM 1.1 screwed up somehow ? Are there any settings on SM 1.1 that would nullify Photobucket's links from loading ? DoctorBill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Writing web sites that work on SeaMonkey
DoctorBill wrote: I actually have a Web Master who responded that says he will work on trying to get his site to work better with SeaMonkey ! www.brassjunkies.com Can someone give me a link that explains how he would do that so that I can pass it on to him? DoctorBill Here is the WebMaster's reply... I appreciate any help I get...I do good to turn a computer on and off!!! My problem is in trusting the people I pay to do things to do what is best ! Thanks again. DoctorBill -- Gun control is like trying to eliminate drunk driving by not allowing sober people to own cars. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Writing web sites that work on SeaMonkey
DoctorBill wrote: DoctorBill wrote: I actually have a Web Master who responded that says he will work on trying to get his site to work better with SeaMonkey ! www.brassjunkies.com Can someone give me a link that explains how he would do that so that I can pass it on to him? Here is the WebMaster's reply... I appreciate any help I get...I do good to turn a computer on and off!!! My problem is in trusting the people I pay to do things to do what is best ! Thanks again. Tell him he should find some new people to trust. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Photobucket
DoctorBill wrote: People tell me that THEY can see pictures on and/or from Photobucket ! http://photobucket.com/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/WVchuck/762chamberinserts.jpg I cannot get Photobucket to load on my SM 1.1 and any links to pictures stored there will not come up. Loads here with 1.1.17 -- some bullets in a tray. I have a gozillion pictures stored there for various forums. I was under the impression Photobucket is down, but if others can see things linked to there, then is my SM 1.1 screwed up somehow ? Are there any settings on SM 1.1 that would nullify Photobucket's links from loading ? Cleared your cache? Cookies? -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Time Machine questions
Keith Whaley wrote: I find a need to access a lot of missing emails from a few months back. I regularly bsck up my HD from my iMac to an external Maxtor drive, using SuperDuper! and Time Machine. Time machine seems cumbersome, in that that fancy-schmancy active splash screen obscures any accessible menu item where I might command it to retrieve data from older backups. All of which means I haven’t learned how to use it yet... Be that as it may, do older SM messages still reside inside some folder on those backups, so I can access, read and transfer them back to my current SM folder? In other words, how can I find and restore older Inbox messages from a few months ago? Or can’t I? keith whaley Yes time machine would save all your old emails. Before you do anything back up your SeaMonkey user profile so if something goes wrong you won't loose any of you current profile information. Your SeaMonkey user profile is located in in your home (user) folder. Steps to retrieve your older emails: 1. Go to the folder Users-Library-Application Support-SeaMonkey. Copy the folder named Seamonkey to your desktop. Rename this folder Old Seamonkey. (This last step is very important) 2.Quit Seamonkey. 3. Using time machine locate the date you want the emails from (i.e. Feb 26, May 4, etc.). Once you have located the date of the emails you wish to retrieve, navigate to Users- (your MacOS profile)-Library-Application Support-Seamonkey Copy the folder (SeaMonkey) to your desktop. 4. Replace the SeaMonkey folder in your user profile with the one you copied to your desktop from time machine. (Users- (your MacOS profile)-Library-Application Support-Seamonkey) 5. Launch SeaMonkey. SeaMonkey will now be accessing an older version of your profile. You can now read your older emails. 6. When you are done reading the old emails quit Seamonkey. 7. To restore your current profile rename the folder on your desktop from Old Seamonkey to Seamonkey. Replace the Seamonkey folder in your users folder with the folder labeled SeaMonkey on the desktop. Launch SeaMonkey and you will now be using your current SeaMonkey profile. Someone may know an easier method to read your old emails. In any case Time machine does save all your old emails and using the steps above you can retrieve them. JUST BE SURE TO MAKE A COPY OF YOUR CURRENT SEAMONKEY PROFILE BEFORE YOU COPY THE OLDER SEAMONKEY PROFILE FROM TIME MACHINE JUST IN CASE ANYTHING GOES WRONG SO YOU WILL NOT LOOSE ANY CURRENT PROFILE INFORMATION. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Photobucket
DoctorBill wrote: People tell me that THEY can see pictures on and/or from Photobucket ! http://photobucket.com/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/WVchuck/762chamberinserts.jpg I cannot get Photobucket to load on my SM 1.1 and any links to pictures stored there will not come up. I have a gozillion pictures stored there for various forums. I was under the impression Photobucket is down, but if others can see things linked to there, then is my SM 1.1 screwed up somehow ? Are there any settings on SM 1.1 that would nullify Photobucket's links from loading ? DoctorBill Make sure SeaMonkey is not set to block images from Photobucket. This is easily checked by going to the menu item under Tools-Image Manager. I had a site stop displaying images. When I checked the image manager, some how the site had been set to block images. Resetting it to allow all images solved the problem. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there an official Mozilla SeaMonkey guide for web developers who misuse User Agents?
On 6/27/2010 11:01 AM PT, Jens Hatlak typed: Ant wrote: The designer of that item has said don't bother, its a waste of time . The mozilla collective doesn't read them its a waste of time. So what ever you don't report it on the Report broken websites. So why even have it? They should remove it! They will: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572695 Thanks. Firefox v4, eh? That means a long time especially for SM v3? I guess too many people use Report broken websites? I used it a lot too, but of course I never got replies. :P Heh. -- When the ants unite their mouths, they can carry an elephant. --Mossian Proverb /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Photobucket
Paul Bergsagel wrote: DoctorBill wrote: People tell me that THEY can see pictures on and/or from Photobucket ! http://photobucket.com/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/WVchuck/762chamberinserts.jpg I cannot get Photobucket to load on my SM 1.1 and any links to pictures stored there will not come up. I have a gozillion pictures stored there for various forums. I was under the impression Photobucket is down, but if others can see things linked to there, then is my SM 1.1 screwed up somehow ? Are there any settings on SM 1.1 that would nullify Photobucket's links from loading ? DoctorBill Make sure SeaMonkey is not set to block images from Photobucket. This is easily checked by going to the menu item under Tools-Image Manager. I had a site stop displaying images. When I checked the image manager, some how the site had been set to block images. Resetting it to allow all images solved the problem. I went to Image Control - Photobucket said allow images. The cleared all cookies with PrefBar Button - THEN Photobucket loaded ! WHAT was THAT all about ! How can some obscure Cookie block a site from loading !? How would it (Them?) have gotten there ? Lesson learned ! This has gone on for MONTHS and I didn't know it was COOKIES. Damn ! Thanks gentlemen ! DoctorBill -- Gun control is like trying to eliminate drunk driving by not allowing sober people to own cars. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Photobucket
DoctorBill wrote: Paul Bergsagel wrote: DoctorBill wrote: People tell me that THEY can see pictures on and/or from Photobucket ! http://photobucket.com/ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/WVchuck/762chamberinserts.jpg I cannot get Photobucket to load on my SM 1.1 and any links to pictures stored there will not come up. I have a gozillion pictures stored there for various forums. I was under the impression Photobucket is down, but if others can see things linked to there, then is my SM 1.1 screwed up somehow ? Are there any settings on SM 1.1 that would nullify Photobucket's links from loading ? DoctorBill Make sure SeaMonkey is not set to block images from Photobucket. This is easily checked by going to the menu item under Tools-Image Manager. I had a site stop displaying images. When I checked the image manager, some how the site had been set to block images. Resetting it to allow all images solved the problem. I went to Image Control - Photobucket said allow images. The cleared all cookies with PrefBar Button - THEN Photobucket loaded ! WHAT was THAT all about ! How can some obscure Cookie block a site from loading !? How would it (Them?) have gotten there ? Lesson learned ! This has gone on for MONTHS and I didn't know it was COOKIES. Damn ! Thanks gentlemen ! DoctorBill I'll bet this has caused ANOTHER problem I have been noticing. Many forum sites take forever to load a page. If I ever tried to see a photobucket img - it sat loading forever. Thus, Elementary My Dear Watson, those forums probably had Photobucket images trying unsuccessfully to load ! Damn ! I'd sure like to know where that one or more cookies originated from. It was not the image permission portion causing the problem - was a cookie. DoctorBill -- Gun control is like trying to eliminate drunk driving by not allowing sober people to own cars. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Writing web sites that work on SeaMonkey
DoctorBill wrote: I actually have a Web Master who responded that says he will work on trying to get his site to work better with SeaMonkey ! www.brassjunkies.com Can someone give me a link that explains how he would do that so that I can pass it on to him? DoctorBill What, specifically, doesn't work on that link in SeaMonkey? I see no problems when I load the page. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net Everyone has a photographic memory, some just don't have any film. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Writing web sites that work on SeaMonkey
DoctorBill wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: DoctorBill wrote: I actually have a Web Master who responded that says he will work on trying to get his site to work better with SeaMonkey ! www.brassjunkies.com Can someone give me a link that explains how he would do that so that I can pass it on to him? DoctorBill What, specifically, doesn't work on that link in SeaMonkey? I see no problems when I load the page. I tried to enter Wanted Ads - which you have to be registered on the site to use. One part is to select a 'Main category' (modify). Clicked Modify - picked a main category and the 'proceed' button gave no response - dead - could not proceed. Tried ctrl-click and Alt-Click and Shift-Click - nothing worked. Bailed out of SM and opened IE and went to the site and everything worked fine. I just thought though, would popups have needed to be enabled ? Some site just will not work with SM - like my college's web site to enter grades for my Chemistry Students. No funcionahas to be IE ! DoctorBill Tried enabling PopUps - still would not work... DB -- Gun control is like trying to eliminate drunk driving by not allowing sober people to own cars. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Writing web sites that work on SeaMonkey
Ed Mullen wrote: DoctorBill wrote: I actually have a Web Master who responded that says he will work on trying to get his site to work better with SeaMonkey ! www.brassjunkies.com Can someone give me a link that explains how he would do that so that I can pass it on to him? DoctorBill What, specifically, doesn't work on that link in SeaMonkey? I see no problems when I load the page. I tried to enter Wanted Ads - which you have to be registered on the site to use. One part is to select a 'Main category' (modify). Clicked Modify - picked a main category and the 'proceed' button gave no response - dead - could not proceed. Tried ctrl-click and Alt-Click and Shift-Click - nothing worked. Bailed out of SM and opened IE and went to the site and everything worked fine. I just thought though, would popups have needed to be enabled ? Some site just will not work with SM - like my college's web site to enter grades for my Chemistry Students. No funcionahas to be IE ! DoctorBill -- Gun control is like trying to eliminate drunk driving by not allowing sober people to own cars. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there an official Mozilla SeaMonkey guide for web developers who misuse User Agents?
Phillip Jones wrote:
What they ought to do is [write] SM/FF with Self-healing built in.
That way if a monkey wrote the website FF could read it.
...because, apparently it isn't impressive enough
to build a browser that can render proper HTML.
To impress some folks, you have to imagine -EVERY- possible way
some idiot might f* up -EVERY- HTML rule
and implement -EVERY- one of those as well.
{Shakes head side to side in disbelief}
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Re: Is there an official Mozilla SeaMonkey guide for web developers who misuse User Agents?
JeffM wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
What they ought to do is [write] SM/FF with Self-healing built in.
That way if a monkey wrote the website FF could read it.
...because, apparently it isn't impressive enough
to build a browser that can render proper HTML.
To impress some folks, you have to imagine -EVERY- possible way
some idiot might f* up -EVERY- HTML rule
and implement -EVERY- one of those as well.
{Shakes head side to side in disbelief}
Well I don't think we ought to, but looks like the only way we are going
to be able to read all sites is to put in self-healing in. No web
designer anywhere in the world seems to bother with sniffing for IE but
do for Mozilla Products. which seem like discrimination to me.
But who am I but a lowly user. What benefit there is to browser sniffing.
Sniffing should be banned by w3c .
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Re: Is there an official Mozilla SeaMonkey guide for web developers who misuse User Agents?
On 6/27/10 11:01 AM, Jens Hatlak wrote: Ant wrote: The designer of that item has said don't bother, its a waste of time . The mozilla collective doesn't read them its a waste of time. So what ever you don't report it on the Report broken websites. So why even have it? They should remove it! They will: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572695 Greetings, Jens That's a Firefox bug. Is there an equivalent SeaMonkey bug? -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there an official Mozilla SeaMonkey guide for web developers who misuse User Agents?
On 6/27/10 10:08 AM, Ant wrote: On 6/27/2010 9:55 AM PT, David E. Ross typed: See myhttp://www.rossde.com/internet/sniffing.html. Also see http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Sardisson/Gecko_is_Gecko and https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Browser_Detection_and_Cross_Browser_Support. Thanks. I will keep these links to share to Web site's people who need to fix SeaMonkey issues. Actually, the first of those links should be of interest primarily to browser users. For those who supervise internal Web developers or contract with external Web developers, another link is http://www.rossde.com/internet/Webdevelopers.html#sniff. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Writing web sites that work on SeaMonkey
On 6/27/10 1:20 PM, DoctorBill wrote: I actually have a Web Master who responded that says he will work on trying to get his site to work better with SeaMonkey ! www.brassjunkies.com Can someone give me a link that explains how he would do that so that I can pass it on to him? DoctorBill Tell him to visit, read, and understand the following links: http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/index.html, oriented to Web developers http://www.rossde.com/internet/Webdevelopers.html, oriented to those who hire or contract with Web developers -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ I filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted via GoogleGroups because of the amount of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
