This is not working with SM but OK with IE

2010-08-11 Thread Ray_Net

http://home.scarlet.be/~pin10521/didyouseethepicture.htm
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Re: form history

2010-08-11 Thread Rick Merrill

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

how can you edit the form history?

(and delete the mistaken entries I made)


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/12021/

In SeaMonkey 2.1 you'll have the built-in Data Manager for that
(currently an extension).

HTH

Jens



Isn't the forms manager a huge security hole!?

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Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE

2010-08-11 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/11/10 7:47 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
 http://home.scarlet.be/~pin10521/didyouseethepicture.htm

The markup
img src=IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg alt=pose-yoga.jpg
has a path to the image with a back-slash (\).  That makes the path
invalid for something on a Web server.

IE interprets this as a forward slash (/), but that interpretation is
not always correct.

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Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?

2010-08-11 Thread DoctorBill

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/9/10 11:53 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I get all sorts of jokes and political E-Mail from my conservative
friends which I
want to pass on to those on my mailing list.

Often they are eml types of messages.

When i have a mail with an eml attachement - i open it then i do 
Message - Edit Message As New then i add some text if needed - 
then i put FW: before the subject and finally i put the recipent 
adress and send it.


When I receive an E-mail message with an eml attachement, I read the
message and then trash it without looking at the attachment.  If the
attachment happens to download, I trash it without opening it.

I get already get many jokes in text form, jokes that don't require any
graphic enhancement.  I avoid most political messages on advice of my
doctor, who nevertheless had to prescribe medication to lower my blood
pressure.  :)


But some of the stuff that comes out of the conservative wing is so 
hilarious that you just have to forward it around. You know, stuff like 
we have to trim the deficit by giving huge tax breaks to the rich, or 
it's all Obama's fault that the Bushies destroyed our economy, or the 
records clerk in Hawaii 50 years ago forged a birth certificate because 
they knew one day the baby would be a Democratic president.


You just can't make some of this $#!+ up...

Returning to the topic, isn't there some setting that tells SM whether 
to include images themselves or just link to their remote location?



You will get what you deserve for voting for Obama.

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Re: form history

2010-08-11 Thread Robert Kaiser

Rick Merrill schrieb:

Isn't the forms manager a huge security hole!?


As long as it can't send any data to websites without your consent, it 
isn't. And that's one reason why we don't auto-fill forms, by the way, 
and we only help you complete items or propose ones in a dropdown when 
you double-click. Prefilling and having websites auto-submit would 
indeed by a privacy, perhaps even security, problem (probably only the 
former, though).


In its current state, its not a problem because it never sends any data 
anywhere without you putting it in the text fields yourself.


Robert Kaiser

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Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?

2010-08-11 Thread d...@kd4e.com

 DoctorBill wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:
But some of the stuff that comes out of the ...


You will get what you deserve for voting for ...


There is no point to these arguments -- opinions are
hardened on both sides and will not be changed - only
an election will pronounce the citizen's verdict on
the current leadership.  The rest is noise ...

Let's stay on topic here and see what the voters say
in November.


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double attachments

2010-08-11 Thread Pat Connors
Ever since I upgraded to 2.0, I have been getting double attachments.  
Any clue on what I can do to fix this?


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Is the Video DownloadHelper 4.8 add-on a good idea?

2010-08-11 Thread d...@kd4e.com

Before I add this ...

We have been using the simple pvideo app to capture video
from YouTube and other sites so we may watch them at our
convenience.

YouTube apparently made some code changes to defeat downloaders
and V-DH 4.8 is a partial work-around.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/3006/?src=api

Is there a consensus in the Seamonkey community that this is
a good download?

Does it create any security openings or otherwise compromise
Seamonkey in any way?

Thanks!

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Re: Wondering about Firefox and Seamonkey comparison

2010-08-11 Thread William Morrison



WLS wrote:

JeffM wrote:

Norvin wrote:

I would suggest that you check out the useragent
and make a change to it.
[...]
Notice the NOT Firefox/3.5.6 which is the key as I understand it.


The NOT part is for *a human* that looks at the site's logs.
OTOH, these idiots who are sniffing improperly[1]
won't know what to make of that in their logs
--even if they actually do look at their logs.

...and *permanantly* altering your user agent string
will give *inaccurate* information to the **good** webmasters
which hurts SeaMonkey, your chosen browser.
ONLY change the string *temporarily*
and ONLY if you absolutely *have* to use one of these crapped-up
sites.

When you do alter the user agent string,
REPORT THE PROBLEM to the site owner.

...and the best solution to this is to
find another site that offers a similar product/service
--a site that isn't run by idiots who don't know what they're doing;
a site that hires competent workers/contractors.
.
.
[1] **ANY** sniffing is actually retarded
--it's not necessary; see the page David linked
Tell the idiots running the crappy site
to just make STANDARDS-COMPLIANT pages.
Like this
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.w3schools.com/html/
NOT like this
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 



Also, you might want to contact them and direct them to this site.

http://geckoisgecko.org/
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I did send them some links for Seamonkey support as well as the 2 links 
above and used the validator on their link for Farmville from Facebook 
and it came up with 18 errors and 5 warnings which I pointed out to them 
so they must be smoking better drugs than I can afford. Also I had to 
point out to the tech that he really wasn't familiar with Seamonkey at 
all because when he wrote back he referred to it as Sea Monkey. I sent 
this info 2 days ago and have yet to here back from them  again, too bad 
I sent it through my Yahoo mail account as it doesn't save sent mail. 
When and if they reply again I will forward the geckoisgecko link to them.



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Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE

2010-08-11 Thread Ray_Net

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/11/10 7:47 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

http://home.scarlet.be/~pin10521/didyouseethepicture.htm


The markup
img src=IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg alt=pose-yoga.jpg
has a path to the image with a back-slash (\).  That makes the path
invalid for something on a Web server.

IE interprets this as a forward slash (/), but that interpretation is
not always correct.

SM did not work correctly when the page is located in my ISP webserver 
space.

BUT in local by the use of a webserver or directly by :
file:///C:/TEST/didyouseethepicture.htm SM see the image.

IE see the image by file, on a local webserver and on my isp webserver 
space.


The interpretation of IE is always correct.

if the \ is replaced by / SM and IE works correctly in the 3 cases.

Therefore SM miss a point.
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Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE

2010-08-11 Thread Ray_Net

User wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

http://home.scarlet.be/~pin10521/didyouseethepicture.htm


It looks to me like there is an error in the code. The slash after
IMAGES is incorrect.

style=text-align: center;img src=IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg

If you try to go to:
http://home.scarlet.be/~pin10521/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg it doesn't work
but if you go to:
http://home.scarlet.be/~pin10521/IMAGES/pose-yoga.jpg it does work.

IE is so sloppy it doesn't surprise me it works.



I would not say sloppy because it works in all cases.
IE is smart in that case.
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Re: SM 2.1 Alpha- Clicking Home Icon does nothing

2010-08-11 Thread Arnie Goetchius

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

In SM 2.06, when I click on the Home icon, all three tabs that I
normally have open will re-load. However, when I do the same thing in SM
2.1, nothing happens. IOW, they don't reload. If I exit SM and then
start up again, all three tabs load. But I can't get them to re-load by
clicking the Home icon. Any ideas?


Anybody?
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Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE

2010-08-11 Thread JeffM
Ray_Net wrote:
I would not say sloppy because it works in all cases.
IE is smart in that case.

You misspelled doesn't comply with standards.
If every driver got to do it by his own rules,
the roads would be a mess.
Standards are a Good Thing(tm).

Using the W3C Validator on your code is also a Good Thing(tm).
The word for those who don't do that is incompetent.
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Re: form history

2010-08-11 Thread Phillip Jones

Rick Merrill wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

how can you edit the form history?

(and delete the mistaken entries I made)


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/12021/

In SeaMonkey 2.1 you'll have the built-in Data Manager for that
(currently an extension).

HTH

Jens



Isn't the forms manager a huge security hole!?

No. the forms manager is supposed (they way it worked in 1.1.9 and lower 
and work in Form History manager And Auto Fill Forms is to automatically 
fill-in redundant information  such as Name address city state zip 
phone. etc by copping what you fill out the first time to a Database . 
then when you run across the same item to fill in double click in the 
blank and its filled or click and hold, and a pop up window appears and 
choose desired info.


User names and Passwords are not supposed to be affected that's a 
completely different database.   User names and Passwords are saved for 
non secure sites if you choose to do so when a pop up item asked whether 
you wish to save username and password. IN SM 1 you could do so in 
secure sites.That has been changed due to pressure from Financial 
institutions.


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Re: form history

2010-08-11 Thread Rick Merrill

Phillip Jones wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

how can you edit the form history?

(and delete the mistaken entries I made)


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/12021/

In SeaMonkey 2.1 you'll have the built-in Data Manager for that
(currently an extension).

HTH

Jens



Isn't the forms manager a huge security hole!?


No. the forms manager is supposed (they way it worked in 1.1.9 and lower
and work in Form History manager And Auto Fill Forms is to automatically
fill-in redundant information such as Name address city state zip phone.
etc by copping what you fill out the first time to a Database . then
when you run across the same item to fill in double click in the blank
and its filled or click and hold, and a pop up window appears and choose
desired info.

User names and Passwords are not supposed to be affected that's a
completely different database. User names and Passwords are saved for
non secure sites if you choose to do so when a pop up item asked whether
you wish to save username and password. IN SM 1 you could do so in
secure sites.That has been changed due to pressure from Financial
institutions.



But if the credit card is stored in a field in the clear, what's to prevent
a day zero virus from finding it? Forget passwords - this prima data.

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Tabnabbing: A New Type of Phishing Attack

2010-08-11 Thread NoOp
Rather interesting read:
http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/a-new-type-of-phishing-attack
http://hacks.mozilla.org/2010/04/account-manager-coming-to-firefox/

Works on:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11)
Gecko/20100701 Lightning/1.0b1 SeaMonkey/2.0.6

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Re: form history

2010-08-11 Thread Phillip Jones

Rick Merrill wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

how can you edit the form history?

(and delete the mistaken entries I made)


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/12021/

In SeaMonkey 2.1 you'll have the built-in Data Manager for that
(currently an extension).

HTH

Jens



Isn't the forms manager a huge security hole!?


No. the forms manager is supposed (they way it worked in 1.1.9 and lower
and work in Form History manager And Auto Fill Forms is to automatically
fill-in redundant information such as Name address city state zip phone.
etc by copping what you fill out the first time to a Database . then
when you run across the same item to fill in double click in the blank
and its filled or click and hold, and a pop up window appears and choose
desired info.

User names and Passwords are not supposed to be affected that's a
completely different database. User names and Passwords are saved for
non secure sites if you choose to do so when a pop up item asked whether
you wish to save username and password. IN SM 1 you could do so in
secure sites.That has been changed due to pressure from Financial
institutions.



But if the credit card is stored in a field in the clear, what's to prevent
a day zero virus from finding it? Forget passwords - this prima data.

Neither form History Manager nor AutoFill Forms  has credit card numbers 
 set up.  you can't remember CC numbers or even t cvc numbers.


It can if you set them up in Autofill. But you have to write a rule to 
do so.


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Re: Tabnabbing: A New Type of Phishing Attack

2010-08-11 Thread NoOp
On 08/11/2010 05:28 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 Rather interesting read:
 http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/a-new-type-of-phishing-attack
 http://hacks.mozilla.org/2010/04/account-manager-coming-to-firefox/

 Works on:
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11)
 Gecko/20100701 Lightning/1.0b1 SeaMonkey/2.0.6

 
 The first website is one reason I don't use tabs, never have and never 
 will.
 I switch from page to page (like viewing a slideshow).
 

Were that true, I suspect that you would have brought up this, or
similar, previously.


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Problems with version 2 mailers

2010-08-11 Thread Harold Robbins
Title: H:\signature.htm




Can anyone tell me how to import messages and files from 1.1.8 to
version 2 mailers? I have asked in the forum but did not get a reply.


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Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE

2010-08-11 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/11/10 2:35 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 8/11/10 7:47 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
 http://home.scarlet.be/~pin10521/didyouseethepicture.htm

 The markup
  img src=IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg alt=pose-yoga.jpg
 has a path to the image with a back-slash (\).  That makes the path
 invalid for something on a Web server.

 IE interprets this as a forward slash (/), but that interpretation is
 not always correct.

 SM did not work correctly when the page is located in my ISP webserver 
 space.
 BUT in local by the use of a webserver or directly by :
 file:///C:/TEST/didyouseethepicture.htm SM see the image.
 
 IE see the image by file, on a local webserver and on my isp webserver 
 space.
 
 The interpretation of IE is always correct.
 
 if the \ is replaced by / SM and IE works correctly in the 3 cases.
 
 Therefore SM miss a point.

No, you have missed at least two points.

If the file is on your local PC running Windows, then
file:///C:/TEST/didyouseethepicture.htm
is the same as
file:\C:\TEST\didyouseethepicture.htm
Even SeaMonkey recognizes the \ in this case.  But the URI will not work
for a file on a Web server if you use \ where the proper symbol is /.

When \ appears in a URI, either the user made a mistake or else it
stands for something other than /.  IE was programmed to guess that
the user meant / when \ is used in a URI, which can be quite wrong if
the user meant something else.  SeaMonkey follows the standards by not
guessing; this is also true of the other Gecko-based browsers.

The processing done by IE -- including the interpretation of \ in a URI
-- is definitely NOT always correct.  Especially when trying to
interpret user errors, IE is very often wrong.

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