My greatest fear for the new Seamonkey
I am a touch-typist who really hates going to the mouse to do common tasks. In the current version of Seamonkey, when I'm viewing the listing of downloaded e-mails and news posts, I can use the tab key to switch back and forth from the header listings to the body of the message. Very, very handy. I just looked at the new Thunderbird, and they have this incredibly messy header box. Pressing Tab sends you to each element of the header box, and finally to the message body. No way I can see to just turn off the header box! Yuck!!! I really don't need all that crap. I'm hoping that, when Seamonkey updates, it doesn't adapt that same behavior. Or, if it does, give us a simple way to turn off the header box There, I feel better, I've vented... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 'Report Broken Web Site' Not Available in SM 2.1b2pre
Jens Hatlak schrieb: Robert Kaiser wrote: Jens Hatlak schrieb: Filed bug 613770. I don't see the sense in writing a patch for plain removal, though, so I skipped that step. Well, I am seriously cutting down the time I'm working on SeaMonkey and trying to cut down on work time in general, so it will take me some time if I need to look into it. Fair enough. We have a bug for it now, which is also the minimum requirement we're heading for for things that need in-product documentation (Help). I could do the change in CVS, but since you seem to want to see a patch somewhere and I cannot push the change anyway due to the template issues I encountered, I'll just leave it this way. SM 2.1 is still a bit ahead, no need to address this ASAP. I don't require a patch if you do it, I just mentioned it because someone attaching it would speed up me doing it. If you delete that part and push it, that's OK by me! (oh, and no need to build templates if all you do is simple HTML editing) Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...
Rufus schrieb: Chris Ilias wrote: 3. Delete the file sessionrestore.js. There is no such file in either of the SM Profiles That's because it's a .json and not a .js file. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 'Report Broken Web Site' Not Available in SM 2.1b2pre
NoOp schrieb: File a *bug* and a *patch* to change a web page that *you* maintain? Yes. The same process as for code I maintain, the same process as used everywhere in Mozilla. We even file bugs for build machines that need changes applied. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: Chris Ilias wrote: 3. Delete the file sessionrestore.js. There is no such file in either of the SM Profiles That's because it's a .json and not a .js file. Robert Kaiser I see one sessionstore.json, but not sessionrestore.json. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tried again with seamonkey 2.* ...sigh
L. Mark Hall wrote: Well once again I tried to update to SM 2.0. This time the executable actually opened, which is quite an improvement over endlessly double clicking on the icon with nothing happening. I tired to import my old profiles with the manual method; create a new profile with the exact name of the old profile, select the folder containing the old profile, close SM, open SM and select the profile from the list. Now when I open the profile, it is just a new profile with none of the data from my old profile. When I go and look at the profile folder, I discover that SM has DELETED ALL OF THE OLD CONTENTS. If I had not backed up the folder before trying this, I would be looking for someone with an ax right now. Whose moronic idea was this, or am I the moron for not knowing how to properly import a profile? I think that at least a warning message would have been in order here. I have literally tens of thousands of emails saved, along with lots of other data, and the main reason I use SM is so that I can keep my profiles in their own folders and back them up properly. This lets me just import them if I have to re-install the OS, or SM. Is there some reason that there is not an import profile tool where you just point to a folder, say import, and done? This seems like such an obvious no-brainer, it makes one wonder about opting for the wonky manual method instead? ...still on SM 1.1.17 LMH There is a migration tool, the import wizard: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ We have enough youth. How about a fountain of smart? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 'Report Broken Web Site' Not Available in SM 2.1b2pre
Robert Kaiser wrote: I don't require a patch if you do it, I just mentioned it because someone attaching it would speed up me doing it. If you delete that part and push it, that's OK by me! (oh, and no need to build templates if all you do is simple HTML editing) OK, done. Easier than I thought. :-) Greetings, Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tried again with seamonkey 2.* ...sigh
Thanks for the link. I looked in the help under import profile, and profile, etc, but I didn't find any of this documentation. Help always seems to be the last thing that gets updated, but that is the same with the software I write as well. Maybe it's just indexed under some other keyword. Is there some reason this tool is not available under the file menu, or tools menu? I spend allot of time on a command line, but most users don't, so it seems like an unnecessary inconvenience. LMH Ed Mullen wrote: L. Mark Hall wrote: Well once again I tried to update to SM 2.0. This time the executable actually opened, which is quite an improvement over endlessly double clicking on the icon with nothing happening. I tired to import my old profiles with the manual method; create a new profile with the exact name of the old profile, select the folder containing the old profile, close SM, open SM and select the profile from the list. Now when I open the profile, it is just a new profile with none of the data from my old profile. When I go and look at the profile folder, I discover that SM has DELETED ALL OF THE OLD CONTENTS. If I had not backed up the folder before trying this, I would be looking for someone with an ax right now. Whose moronic idea was this, or am I the moron for not knowing how to properly import a profile? I think that at least a warning message would have been in order here. I have literally tens of thousands of emails saved, along with lots of other data, and the main reason I use SM is so that I can keep my profiles in their own folders and back them up properly. This lets me just import them if I have to re-install the OS, or SM. Is there some reason that there is not an import profile tool where you just point to a folder, say import, and done? This seems like such an obvious no-brainer, it makes one wonder about opting for the wonky manual method instead? ...still on SM 1.1.17 LMH There is a migration tool, the import wizard: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: back
Jim Gordon wrote: Why do I frequently have to click on the back button *twice* on Seamonkey to return to the previous page??? In general, or only on certain web pages and links? Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: back
Daniel Barclay wrote: Jim Gordon wrote: Why do I frequently have to click on the back button *twice* on Seamonkey to return to the previous page??? In general, or only on certain web pages and links? Daniel I've noticed this too. It appears to be random. Occasionally I have to resort to the 'back' button drop down list. HilsB ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...
Chris Ilias wrote: On 10-11-21 6:16 PM, Rufus wrote: 2. Open Terminal, and enter the following command: /Applications/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/MacOS/seamonkey-bin -p What does this do?... It starts SeaMonkey in the profile manager. As explained in the above URL, SeaMonkey saves your personal information such as bookmarks, passwords, mail and news messages, installed add-ons and user preferences in a set of files called your profile, which is stored in a separate location from the SeaMonkey program files. Ok - I already launch the Profile Manager at SM startup, so no need to use Terminal to do so. You can create multiple profiles, and creating a new one will not delete the old one. If you don't experience the crashing problem in a new profile, then we know that the cause of the problem is in your current profile, but somewhere else. I have have to two Profiles set up, and set up a third one...but none are crashing since the last series. Since then I've also rebuilt my Whereis and Locate databases and updated Prebindings using the MainMenu utility. So far this SM Profile has been stable for a day now. ...but that's also happened before and then the crashing resumed. Keeping watch. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: back
HilsB wrote: Daniel Barclay wrote: Jim Gordon wrote: Why do I frequently have to click on the back button *twice* on Seamonkey to return to the previous page??? In general, or only on certain web pages and links? Daniel I've noticed this too. It appears to be random. Occasionally I have to resort to the 'back' button drop down list. Yes, I have this experience, too. For some reason, the ALT-left arrow stops working and only the button is any use. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Query about request for new features
Hello. I do not know whether this is the appropriate place to make a request for new features, but here goes. I use iceape on this computer, as I generally run Debian 5, and I have installed Iceape and Iceweasel on this computer. When Iceape crashes, which it does frequently, the session at the time of the crash is lost. From what I understand, Iceweasel (a Debian derivative of Firefox), preserves the session status, so that one opportunity (at the next occasion of running the software) is provided, for the session at the time of the crash, to be restored. I have observed that Galeon, in running the next time from a crash, provides three options: 1. Restore last session (session which crashed) 2. Open new session and save last session as bookmarks (creates new bookmarks folder, wit bookmarks for all tabs and windows that were open when session crashed) 3. Open new session, deleting previous session (or, something like that. My request is this; could Firefox and Seamonkey (thence to hopefully filter through to Iceweasel and Iceape, to be implemented therein), have the same provisions implemented? Also, would it be possible for Firefox and Seamonkey (thence to hopefully filter through to Iceweasel and Iceape, to be implemented therein), to include in the File menu (and thence to be fully implemented), an option, as Opera has; Save current session, so that the current session can be saved and closed in an orderly manner, as needed? Thank you in anticipation. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SOLVED! SM email not properly responding to FF mailto links
On 11/20/2010 06:35 AM, Michael Lueck wrote: I also took the time to report this in Bugzilla: Incorrect default switches to handle mailto: links / new message window will not open https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613724 Clearly your: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613724#c7 response indicates that you still seem to think that this is a SeaMonkey issue rather than an issue with properly configuring your GNOME desktop. So I'll repeat: this is *not* a SeaMonkey issue, but rather an desktop configuration issue. (PEBKAC) As you've already discovered, properly setting your desktop preferred applications settings (Ubuntu: System|Preferences|Preferred Applications|Mail Reader|Custom/whatever) to a path/system setting for SeaMonkey works. This demonstrates that the issue is with your desktop settings and *not* SeaMonkey. Let me give you a few examples/whatif's: 1. I run SM from a /home folder on several machines (Ubuntu 8.04, 10.04, 10.10). Using your example won't work for me. Instead I need to add the full path to my SM installation folder and use: /home/username/seamonkeyfoldername/seamonkey -compose On others I run SeaMonkey2 from a ppa provided by Joe Lesko [1] and simply use System|Preferences|Preferred Applications|Mail Reader|SeaMonkey 2.0|seamonkey2 -mail 2. What if your preferred email application were something other than SeaMonkey? You'd set your email preferences as above only use the path to that particular email client. Point being is that your issue has *nothing* to do with a bug in SeaMonkey, but instead is due to your failure to grasp the fact that you lack the understanding necessary to set your desktop settings to use whatever email client that you wish. [1] Using Ubuntuzilla is, IMO, just plain silly. Ubuntuzilla is nothing more than a set of scripts that install Mozilla products in system directories. You'd be *much* better off (again IMO) installing SeaMonkey: 1. Directly into a home folder (/home/seamonkey) and running it from there. Or: 2. If you wish to use a system SeaMonkey, add Joe Lesko's repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list file - or add: https://launchpad.net/~seamonkey2/+archive/seamonkey2 via $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:seamonkey2/seamonkey2 and then install seamonkey2 I'd recommend that you just install via your distro repository were it not for the fact that the Ubuntu SeaMonkey maintainers can't seem to get their act together and still haven't backported the lucid fixes yet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seamonkey/+bug/575160 [seamonkey 2.0 crashes with 'RenderBadPicture' diagnostics] Now *please* go and close out https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613724 If you need further help understanding why please do not hesitate to ask in this thread I'll be more than happy to provide additional info/instructions. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SOLVED! SM email not properly responding to FF mailto links
On 11/22/2010 08:14 PM, NoOp wrote: On 11/20/2010 06:35 AM, Michael Lueck wrote: I also took the time to report this in Bugzilla: Incorrect default switches to handle mailto: links / new message window will not open https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613724 Clearly your: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613724#c7 response indicates that you still seem to think that this is a SeaMonkey issue rather than an issue with properly configuring your GNOME desktop. So I'll repeat: this is *not* a SeaMonkey issue, but rather an desktop configuration issue. (PEBKAC) As you've already discovered, properly setting your desktop preferred applications settings (Ubuntu: System|Preferences|Preferred Applications|Mail Reader|Custom/whatever) to a path/system setting for SeaMonkey works. This demonstrates that the issue is with your desktop settings and *not* SeaMonkey. Let me give you a few examples/whatif's: 1. I run SM from a /home folder on several machines (Ubuntu 8.04, 10.04, 10.10). Using your example won't work for me. Instead I need to add the full path to my SM installation folder and use: /home/username/seamonkeyfoldername/seamonkey -compose On others I run SeaMonkey2 from a ppa provided by Joe Lesko [1] and simply use System|Preferences|Preferred Applications|Mail Reader|SeaMonkey 2.0|seamonkey2 -mail 2. What if your preferred email application were something other than SeaMonkey? You'd set your email preferences as above only use the path to that particular email client. Point being is that your issue has *nothing* to do with a bug in SeaMonkey, but instead is due to your failure to grasp the fact that you lack the understanding necessary to set your desktop settings to use whatever email client that you wish. [1] Using Ubuntuzilla is, IMO, just plain silly. Ubuntuzilla is nothing more than a set of scripts that install Mozilla products in system directories. You'd be *much* better off (again IMO) installing SeaMonkey: 1. Directly into a home folder (/home/seamonkey) and running it from there. Or: 2. If you wish to use a system SeaMonkey, add Joe Lesko's repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list file - or add: https://launchpad.net/~seamonkey2/+archive/seamonkey2 via $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:seamonkey2/seamonkey2 and then install seamonkey2 I'd recommend that you just install via your distro repository were it not for the fact that the Ubuntu SeaMonkey maintainers can't seem to get their act together and still haven't backported the lucid fixes yet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seamonkey/+bug/575160 [seamonkey 2.0 crashes with 'RenderBadPicture' diagnostics] Now *please* go and close out https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613724 If you need further help understanding why please do not hesitate to ask in this thread I'll be more than happy to provide additional info/instructions. Sorry, forgot to add: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Command_Line_Options ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: My greatest fear for the new Seamonkey
On 23/11/2010 02:39, Jens Hatlak wrote: Jeffrey Needle wrote: I just looked at the new Thunderbird, and they have this incredibly messy header box. Pressing Tab sends you to each element of the header box, and finally to the message body. No way I can see to just turn off the header box! Yuck!!! I really don't need all that crap. I'm hoping that, when Seamonkey updates, it doesn't adapt that same behavior. I don't know what will happen in the far future, but for the next SeaMonkey version, 2.1, you have nothing to fear there. You sure? Email addresses in the header pane are now tabbable. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=479579 Bug 479579 - Make all header fields tabbable, not just Subject and Date This was requested by the Mozilla Accessibility team. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
